One-Eyed Richmond Forum
Football => Richmond Rant => Topic started by: one-eyed on November 28, 2016, 03:10:30 PM
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I won't be around for the rookie draft in an hour's time, so I've created this thread so someone can kindly post the profile/details of the rookie we'll pick up at pick 6. Cheers OE.
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Tyson Stengle.
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Tyson Stengle.
Another lightweight!
I'm not sure exactly how many of this type of player we really need :huh
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TIGERS DRAFT NEPHEW OF A GUN
Richmond's first pick, Tyson Stengle, is a nephew of Sydney great Michael O'Loughlin. An exciting small forward blessed with genuine pace, he booted 22 goals for Woodville West Torrens in the SANFL reserves this season.
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Tyson Stengle.
Another lightweight!
I'm not sure exactly how many of this type of player we need exactly :huh
He played some good patches of footy in the champ games,interesting to see how he goes.
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171cm, 69kg :huh
More here
http://www.thecourier.com.au/story/4255462/afl-draft-combine-tyson-stengle-woodville-west-torrens/?cs=1802
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TIGERS DRAFT NEPHEW OF A GUN
Richmond's first pick, Tyson Stengle, is a nephew of Sydney great Michael O'Loughlin. An exciting small forward blessed with genuine pace, he booted 22 goals for Woodville West Torrens in the SANFL reserves this season.
Yeah kept an eye on him in the champs for that very reason.
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Poor list management, crying out for KPP's - another inside mid at worst and instead we add to our surplus of smalls...
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I don't think we will be picking small forwards for a few years.... :rollin
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Brisbane nab McInerney
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There goes Weight Watchers sponsorship deal
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xavier Richards didn't get picked up interesting classy player and good talent gone from playing in a AFL GF to nothing...
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Does Tyson Stengle have any connection to Tyson Stenglein?
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Does Tyson Stengle have any connection to Tyson Stenglein?
yeah they have the same first name :lol :lol :lol
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Does Tyson Stengle have any connection to Tyson Stenglein?
One is "in" and the other isn't...
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I don't think we will be picking small forwards for a few years.... :rollin
:snidegrin
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A pick of the young man in action
(http://nnimgt-a.akamaihd.net/transform/v1/crop/frm/w9qsSAVumVxqyCiyw3G2iR/3a395932-6aa4-4061-bd67-837f043073d3.jpg/r0_17_1280_737_w1200_h678_fmax.jpg)
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Must be insurance if Bolton succumbs to that alleged "go home factor" ...
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The kid can certainly play...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O2wh6meNKxA
...just not quite sure how any of that will help us if Rance and/or Riewoldt go down...
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The kid can certainly play...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O2wh6meNKxA
...just not quite sure how any of that will help us if Rance and/or Riewoldt go down...
There's always that gun Elton. :lol
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Well...that's a relief...
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Ok..ok...I think I've just worked it out...it's not Footscray 2016 that we're trying to emulate...it's Carlton 2010:
(http://s.afl.com.au/staticfile/AFL%20Tenant/Invisible%20Archive/Images/Static%20Files/carlton_images/3-amigos-120810-246-1.jpg)
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A pick of the young man in action
(http://nnimgt-a.akamaihd.net/transform/v1/crop/frm/w9qsSAVumVxqyCiyw3G2iR/3a395932-6aa4-4061-bd67-837f043073d3.jpg/r0_17_1280_737_w1200_h678_fmax.jpg)
I thought the doggies womens team started next year?
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So what's his knock? Besides height. Highlights actually looked quite impressive
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Don't think i'd like to be Dan Butler unless he can play midfield
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Don't think i'd like to be Dan Butler unless he can play midfield
I think he's good enough to play midfield. He just needs to be given a decent chance at it. I'd play him there over Grigg as Grigg won't know who to kick it to without Lids in the team.... :shh
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So what's his knock? Besides height. Highlights actually looked quite impressive
Agree. The kid looks like he has great skills.
The question is do the recruiters pick a highly skilled small or a tall who is not very good and thus has been overlooked by every team? TBH. I prefer injecting talent into the team.
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All these smalls that we have now would have been perfect in the side over the last few years with Vickery's inability to take a mark.
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This kid is a natural footballer, we haven't had many of them, these are the sorts of players who perform on the big stage, something we have sorely missed for quite some time.
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The kid can certainly play...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O2wh6meNKxA
...just not quite sure how any of that will help us if Rance and/or Riewoldt go down...
Apparently KP players are not the way to go
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Don't think i'd like to be Dan Butler unless he can play midfield
Spot on. He needs to become an in and under mid who can break away on the spread.
He showed small samples of this later on this year but is up against it.
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xavier Richards didn't get picked up interesting classy player and good talent gone from playing in a AFL GF to nothing...
Don't that tell you something. Read a little into it why a player all of the sudden falls off the scene.
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Anyone else notice the amount of Aboriginal players the recruiters are bringing to the club
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Anyone else notice the amount of Aboriginal players the recruiters are bringing to the club
We certainly have changed our thinking in the last 2 seasons. Let's hope they can all thrive at Tigerland. We are in desperate need for some skill, pace and X factor.
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Funny thing is Tyson has the best highlight package of all the recruits IMHO. And he's the rookie!
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Funny thing is Tyson has the best highlight package of all the recruits IMHO. And he's the rookie!
Ha! I tend to agree.
He looks like a likely type.
So I've missed a bit on here of late, can we put Yarran on the LTIL and promote this kid or any other rookie?
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Funny thing is Tyson has the best highlight package of all the recruits IMHO. And he's the rookie!
Ha! I tend to agree.
He looks like a likely type.
So I've missed a bit on here of late, can we put Yarran on the LTIL and promote this kid or any other rookie?
Pretty sure the answer is yes.
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Indigenous perform at their best when they play together as a rule, good recruiting by Clarke imho
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Is this a scientific rule or one you just made up
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Is this a scientific rule or one you just made up
(http://www.scielo.br/img/fbpe/bjp/v31n4/11fo42.gif)
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Did you carry the 1?
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Did you carry the 1?
Damn! Is that where I went wrong! :banghead
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Indigenous perform at their best when they play together as a rule, good recruiting by Clarke imho
Our handling of indigenous players in the past seems to have missed the mark, hopefully we are on board now with 4 boys in the team, could be mercurial
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Good luck to him. I hope he makes it and becomes a successful player for the club.
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Is this a scientific rule or one you just made up
(http://www.scielo.br/img/fbpe/bjp/v31n4/11fo42.gif)
Is that the answer to the meaning of life, the universe and everything???
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So what's his knock? Besides height. Highlights actually looked quite impressive
Agree. The kid looks like he has great skills.
The question is do the recruiters pick a highly skilled small or a tall who is not very good and thus has been overlooked by every team? TBH. I prefer injecting talent into the team.
The bigger question is if Stengle is a pick 6 rookie and Bolton is pick 27 in the main draft...and we are going off thinking about how good these 2 are, have we missed the bus this year by spreading our cheeks for Prestia?
We had 6 and 24 and the Lids deal coming our way...i just hope we havent once again gone the quick fix to save jobs
As it stands we could have had Scrimshaw or English or Pepper-Powell or Brodie and a Cedric Cox in yellow and black now had we kept our picks and went the real rebuild.
time wil tell but I feel we stuffed it up again.
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So what's his knock? Besides height. Highlights actually looked quite impressive
Agree. The kid looks like he has great skills.
The question is do the recruiters pick a highly skilled small or a tall who is not very good and thus has been overlooked by every team? TBH. I prefer injecting talent into the team.
The bigger question is if Stengle is a pick 6 rookie and Bolton is pick 27 in the main draft...and we are going off thinking about how good these 2 are, have we missed the bus this year by spreading our cheeks for Prestia?
We had 6 and 24 and the Lids deal coming our way...i just hope we havent once again gone the quick fix to save jobs
I think everybody here wanted to keep pick 6. Pick 24 for Caddy was reasonable. The problem is we promised a 2016 first round draft pick for Prestia almost a year before the deal was made. The club was trying desperately to get pick 13 from GWS for Lids but because the deal with Gibbs failed, pick 13 never went to GWS and we were forced to keep our promise and trade our only first round pick. Why the club makes promises like that, nobody knows. I think Prestia is an ok player as he is an upgrade on a lot of what we have. However, I'll be interested in Will Brodie's career as he was obtainable.
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So what's his knock? Besides height. Highlights actually looked quite impressive
Agree. The kid looks like he has great skills.
The question is do the recruiters pick a highly skilled small or a tall who is not very good and thus has been overlooked by every team? TBH. I prefer injecting talent into the team.
The bigger question is if Stengle is a pick 6 rookie and Bolton is pick 27 in the main draft...and we are going off thinking about how good these 2 are, have we missed the bus this year by spreading our cheeks for Prestia?
We had 6 and 24 and the Lids deal coming our way...i just hope we havent once again gone the quick fix to save jobs
I think everybody here wanted to keep pick 6. Pick 24 for Caddy was reasonable. The problem is we promised a 2016 first round draft pick for Prestia almost a year before the deal was made. The club was trying desperately to get pick 13 from GWS for Lids but because the deal with Gibbs failed, pick 13 never went to GWS and we were forced to keep our promise and trade our only first round pick. Why the club makes promises like that, nobody knows. I think Prestia is an ok player as he is an upgrade on a lot of what we have. However, I'll be interested in Will Brodie's career as he was obtainable.
We gave up 6 and 24 for Prestia and 27 . As for us promising, yeah, it got us into the situation where we had to get yarran and nearly coughed up 12 and we learnt from that and went out and did it again. Why? because Benny and the Jets(the board) wanted to show us they could land a big fish...i mean Prestia is a big fish yes? Becauise the last time i looked Tom Mitchell was a bigger fish and he went for pick 14 and some change....what a stuffing mess.. Put the Lids deal through and we are laughing going into the next draft with 2 R1s after picking up a couple of beauties in Scrimshaw and Cox.
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So what's his knock? Besides height. Highlights actually looked quite impressive
Agree. The kid looks like he has great skills.
The question is do the recruiters pick a highly skilled small or a tall who is not very good and thus has been overlooked by every team? TBH. I prefer injecting talent into the team.
The bigger question is if Stengle is a pick 6 rookie and Bolton is pick 27 in the main draft...and we are going off thinking about how good these 2 are, have we missed the bus this year by spreading our cheeks for Prestia?
We had 6 and 24 and the Lids deal coming our way...i just hope we havent once again gone the quick fix to save jobs
I think everybody here wanted to keep pick 6. Pick 24 for Caddy was reasonable. The problem is we promised a 2016 first round draft pick for Prestia almost a year before the deal was made. The club was trying desperately to get pick 13 from GWS for Lids but because the deal with Gibbs failed, pick 13 never went to GWS and we were forced to keep our promise and trade our only first round pick. Why the club makes promises like that, nobody knows. I think Prestia is an ok player as he is an upgrade on a lot of what we have. However, I'll be interested in Will Brodie's career as he was obtainable.
We gave up 6 and 24 for Prestia and 27 . As for us promising, yeah, it got us into the situation where we had to get yarran and nearly coughed up 12 and we learnt from that and went out and did it again. Why? because Benny and the Jets(the board) wanted to show us they could land a big fish...i mean Prestia is a big fish yes? Becauise the last time i looked Tom Mitchell was a bigger fish and he went for pick 14 and some change....what a stuffing mess
I agree with all that. The problem becomes that deals are made several months before trade period. Tom Mitchell was always going to Hawthorn. Nobody was going to stop that. I want to know why we gave up a 2017 second rounder too for Prestia? We really did get bent over for that.
I hope he turns out to be an A grader for us because we gave up a lot for him. Time will tell but for now it looks like we lost on that deal.
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So what's his knock? Besides height. Highlights actually looked quite impressive
Agree. The kid looks like he has great skills.
The question is do the recruiters pick a highly skilled small or a tall who is not very good and thus has been overlooked by every team? TBH. I prefer injecting talent into the team.
The bigger question is if Stengle is a pick 6 rookie and Bolton is pick 27 in the main draft...and we are going off thinking about how good these 2 are, have we missed the bus this year by spreading our cheeks for Prestia?
We had 6 and 24 and the Lids deal coming our way...i just hope we havent once again gone the quick fix to save jobs
I think everybody here wanted to keep pick 6. Pick 24 for Caddy was reasonable. The problem is we promised a 2016 first round draft pick for Prestia almost a year before the deal was made. The club was trying desperately to get pick 13 from GWS for Lids but because the deal with Gibbs failed, pick 13 never went to GWS and we were forced to keep our promise and trade our only first round pick. Why the club makes promises like that, nobody knows. I think Prestia is an ok player as he is an upgrade on a lot of what we have. However, I'll be interested in Will Brodie's career as he was obtainable.
We gave up 6 and 24 for Prestia and 27 . As for us promising, yeah, it got us into the situation where we had to get yarran and nearly coughed up 12 and we learnt from that and went out and did it again. Why? because Benny and the Jets(the board) wanted to show us they could land a big fish...i mean Prestia is a big fish yes? Becauise the last time i looked Tom Mitchell was a bigger fish and he went for pick 14 and some change....what a stuffing mess
I agree with all that. The problem becomes that deals are made several months before trade period. Tom Mitchell was always going to Hawthorn. Nobody was going to stop that. I want to know why we gave up a 2017 second rounder too for Prestia? We really did get bent over for that.
I hope he turns out to be an A grader for us because we gave up a lot for him. Time will tell but for now it looks like we lost on that deal.
Agreed, and by A-grader i want impact and game changing impact. The problem with us is we give up the world and get servicable and everyone says he is doing his job so its ok, it isnt his fault and all that poo that is used to justify another clusterfuck. At the end of the day, we gave up the world for a guy who has played a handful of games in an team that would lose if their main man wasnt there, who has dodgy knees. And the dawks pick up a fit and ready to roll gun fior peanuts relatively speaking. We have a dud coach and dud recruiters and that wasnt addressed after that mythical review
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From Flash Gordon:
Agreed, and by A-grader i want impact and game changing impact. The problem with us is we give up the world and get servicable and everyone says he is doing his job so its ok, it isnt his fault and all that poo that is used to justify another clusterstuff. At the end of the day, we gave up the world for a guy who has played a handful of games in an team that would lose if their main man wasnt there, who has dodgy knees. And the dawks pick up a fit and ready to roll gun fior peanuts relatively speaking. We have a dud coach and dud recruiters and that wasnt addressed after that mythical review
Have to agree Flash.
We seem to be keen on rushing headlong into disasters, unnecessarily signing Hardwick for 2 years and especially not addressing the recruitment department.
As always we can only hope for the best :pray.
Unfortunately the management seem to stumble from one trading disaster to another and our coach has his needle stuck on a game plan our team cannot execute and it is obvious that the game has passed him by IMHO (eg we are not a strong tackling side, best list I have had at my time at RFC), IMO if he can't get it right after all this time the future does not look too rosy for Hardwick at RFC.
Luckily we are financially OK but my 29 year old son still looks at me with skepticism :help and silently asks why :huh did I burden him with barracking for RFC? :banghead
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From Flash Gordon:
Agreed, and by A-grader i want impact and game changing impact. The problem with us is we give up the world and get servicable and everyone says he is doing his job so its ok, it isnt his fault and all that poo that is used to justify another clusterstuff. At the end of the day, we gave up the world for a guy who has played a handful of games in an team that would lose if their main man wasnt there, who has dodgy knees. And the dawks pick up a fit and ready to roll gun fior peanuts relatively speaking. We have a dud coach and dud recruiters and that wasnt addressed after that mythical review
Have to agree Flash.
We seem to be keen on rushing headlong into disasters, unnecessarily signing Hardwick for 2 years and especially not addressing the recruitment department.
As always we can only hope for the best :pray.
Unfortunately the management seem to stumble from one trading disaster to another and our coach has his needle stuck on a game plan our team cannot execute and it is obvious that the game has passed him by IMHO (eg we are not a strong tackling side, best list I have had at my time at RFC), IMO if he can't get it right after all this time the future does not look too rosy for Hardwick at RFC.
Luckily we are financially OK but my 29 year old son still looks at me with skepticism :help and silently asks why :huh did I burden him with barracking for RFC? :banghead
Its crazy. I cant work out how after the forensic review, a bunch of assistants were sacked and a few conditioners and not one of the recruiters. Are they saying that they had performed to the required standard? I mean we can factor in the complete and utter balls up of the yarran fiasco too. Just doesnt add up and its a real concern as to what is going on down at Punt Rd with the smoke screen they have put up to hide how we really stuffed up another chance to really build this team from the ground up. I wont bang on about it, but this Caddy from the cats, he is apparently a gun yeah? how on earth does he now find himself at his 3rd club after how long? Its a worry. I am livid that we could have had Cedric Cox. Bookmark this, he will be the new Buddy in debates at tigerland on who we missed out on.
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So what's his knock? Besides height. Highlights actually looked quite impressive
Agree. The kid looks like he has great skills.
The question is do the recruiters pick a highly skilled small or a tall who is not very good and thus has been overlooked by every team? TBH. I prefer injecting talent into the team.
The bigger question is if Stengle is a pick 6 rookie and Bolton is pick 27 in the main draft...and we are going off thinking about how good these 2 are, have we missed the bus this year by spreading our cheeks for Prestia?
We had 6 and 24 and the Lids deal coming our way...i just hope we havent once again gone the quick fix to save jobs
I think everybody here wanted to keep pick 6. Pick 24 for Caddy was reasonable. The problem is we promised a 2016 first round draft pick for Prestia almost a year before the deal was made. The club was trying desperately to get pick 13 from GWS for Lids but because the deal with Gibbs failed, pick 13 never went to GWS and we were forced to keep our promise and trade our only first round pick. Why the club makes promises like that, nobody knows. I think Prestia is an ok player as he is an upgrade on a lot of what we have. However, I'll be interested in Will Brodie's career as he was obtainable.
We gave up 6 and 24 for Prestia and 27 . As for us promising, yeah, it got us into the situation where we had to get yarran and nearly coughed up 12 and we learnt from that and went out and did it again. Why? because Benny and the Jets(the board) wanted to show us they could land a big fish...i mean Prestia is a big fish yes? Becauise the last time i looked Tom Mitchell was a bigger fish and he went for pick 14 and some change....what a stuffing mess.. Put the Lids deal through and we are laughing going into the next draft with 2 R1s after picking up a couple of beauties in Scrimshaw and Cox.
We gave up pick 6 and next years 2nd round pick for Prestia and pick 24
27 came as compo for losing Vickery
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So what's his knock? Besides height. Highlights actually looked quite impressive
Agree. The kid looks like he has great skills.
The question is do the recruiters pick a highly skilled small or a tall who is not very good and thus has been overlooked by every team? TBH. I prefer injecting talent into the team.
The bigger question is if Stengle is a pick 6 rookie and Bolton is pick 27 in the main draft...and we are going off thinking about how good these 2 are, have we missed the bus this year by spreading our cheeks for Prestia?
We had 6 and 24 and the Lids deal coming our way...i just hope we havent once again gone the quick fix to save jobs
I think everybody here wanted to keep pick 6. Pick 24 for Caddy was reasonable. The problem is we promised a 2016 first round draft pick for Prestia almost a year before the deal was made. The club was trying desperately to get pick 13 from GWS for Lids but because the deal with Gibbs failed, pick 13 never went to GWS and we were forced to keep our promise and trade our only first round pick. Why the club makes promises like that, nobody knows. I think Prestia is an ok player as he is an upgrade on a lot of what we have. However, I'll be interested in Will Brodie's career as he was obtainable.
We gave up 6 and 24 for Prestia and 27 . As for us promising, yeah, it got us into the situation where we had to get yarran and nearly coughed up 12 and we learnt from that and went out and did it again. Why? because Benny and the Jets(the board) wanted to show us they could land a big fish...i mean Prestia is a big fish yes? Becauise the last time i looked Tom Mitchell was a bigger fish and he went for pick 14 and some change....what a stuffing mess.. Put the Lids deal through and we are laughing going into the next draft with 2 R1s after picking up a couple of beauties in Scrimshaw and Cox.
We gave up pick 6 and next years 2nd round pick for Prestia and pick 24
27 came as compo for losing Vickery
ok...my mistake then. We got 24 and gave it away for Caddy. So we still could have landed Cox and Prestia then. Just dont like the thougth that we have picked up a player who has been in the game for 5 years and at his 3rd club.
IMO this trade/draft period was a sign of no confidence in the current recruiting dept and it was deemed safer to go the used car lot rather than go to the drafft for a rebuild. Lets face it, they added the expertise of Luke Williams to the likes of FJ, Matt Clarke, Richard Taylor and Blair Hartley 3 years ago and we are well aware of the farse they have made of the drafts. As i said before, I cannot for the life of me understand how not one of these guys was shown the door, after we apparently sought reasons for our demise. Outside the IP they possesed re. this year, which to me meant nought anyway, seeing as we had committed to Prestia and basically put ourselves out of a draft that most teams were falling over backwards to get into. Its the quick fix road once again for us. Buys the board another 5-7 years of stability as we develop again :lol
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we got 2 First rounders for next years super draft, got 2 ready to go mids, a flashy small forward and another mid that might turn out to be a gun and speculative big defender. Sits ok with me.
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we got 2 First rounders for next years super draft, got 2 ready to go mids, a flashy small forward and another mid that might turn out to be a gun and speculative big defender. Sits ok with me.
Groundhog day..been getting these types for the last 8 years.
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Indigenous perform at their best when they play together as a rule, good recruiting by Clarke imho
Our handling of indigenous players in the past seems to have missed the mark, hopefully we are on board now with 4 boys in the team, could be mercurial
X.Clarke is a great mentor for them. a shrewd appointment IMO
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So what's his knock? Besides height. Highlights actually looked quite impressive
Agree. The kid looks like he has great skills.
The question is do the recruiters pick a highly skilled small or a tall who is not very good and thus has been overlooked by every team? TBH. I prefer injecting talent into the team.
The bigger question is if Stengle is a pick 6 rookie and Bolton is pick 27 in the main draft...and we are going off thinking about how good these 2 are, have we missed the bus this year by spreading our cheeks for Prestia?
We had 6 and 24 and the Lids deal coming our way...i just hope we havent once again gone the quick fix to save jobs
As it stands we could have had Scrimshaw or English or Pepper-Powell or Brodie and a Cedric Cox in yellow and black now had we kept our picks and went the real rebuild.
time wil tell but I feel we stuffed it up again.
Great pos.
It was obvious since the last ball was bounced that we needed to embrace the nd rather than almost totally trading out of it we needed to trade into it
fmd keep 6 Brodie and get a top 10 in and we get Logue we adress the two biggest holes in the list big inside ball winning machine and a kpd who has rance like traits but is probably better standing next to an opponent.
Instead we trade 6 for a very good player granted lose 24 and use 27 on a bloke who looks like tarzan and plays like jane.I am still shaking my head that we only had three nd picks and only one inside the top 50 and the club has pulled the wool over most supporters eyes in doing it.
The only decent pick we have we then go and use it on a tiny sml fwd yet we all knew there would be sml fwds to pick from later in the draft and rookie draft as is the case nearly every yr.
Anyway it really is a case of the more things change the they stay the same with this mob.
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So what's his knock? Besides height. Highlights actually looked quite impressive
Agree. The kid looks like he has great skills.
The question is do the recruiters pick a highly skilled small or a tall who is not very good and thus has been overlooked by every team? TBH. I prefer injecting talent into the team.
The bigger question is if Stengle is a pick 6 rookie and Bolton is pick 27 in the main draft...and we are going off thinking about how good these 2 are, have we missed the bus this year by spreading our cheeks for Prestia?
We had 6 and 24 and the Lids deal coming our way...i just hope we havent once again gone the quick fix to save jobs
As it stands we could have had Scrimshaw or English or Pepper-Powell or Brodie and a Cedric Cox in yellow and black now had we kept our picks and went the real rebuild.
time wil tell but I feel we stuffed it up again.
Great pos.
It was obvious since the last ball was bounced that we needed to embrace the nd rather than almost totally trading out of it we needed to trade into it
fmd keep 6 Brodie and get a top 10 in and we get Logue we adress the two biggest holes in the list big inside ball winning machine and a kpd who has rance like traits but is probably better standing next to an opponent.
Instead we trade 6 for a very good player granted lose 24 and use 27 on a bloke who looks like tarzan and plays like jane.I am still shaking my head that we only had three nd picks and only one inside the top 50 and the club has pulled the wool over most supporters eyes in doing it.
The only decent pick we have we then go and use it on a tiny sml fwd yet we all knew there would be sml fwds to pick from later in the draft and rookie draft as is the case nearly every yr.
Anyway it really is a case of the more things change the they stay the same with this mob.
All looks obvious to all of us. Just hope the club got it right and we didn't..... :pray
I'd rather be wrong here 1000x over and see success at the RFC!
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Is this a scientific rule or one you just made up
(http://www.scielo.br/img/fbpe/bjp/v31n4/11fo42.gif)
Is that the answer to the meaning of life, the universe and everything???
Wouldn't it be funny if we gave him that number now. I think it vacant.
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get a top 10 in and we get Logue we get a kpd who has rance like traits but is probably better standing next to an opponent.\
Wait so is he a KPD or a 3rd tall
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get a top 10 in and we get Logue we get a kpd who has rance like traits but is probably better standing next to an opponent.\
Wait so is he a KPD or a 3rd tall
I gathered he is a glass half full type
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So what's his knock? Besides height. Highlights actually looked quite impressive
Agree. The kid looks like he has great skills.
The question is do the recruiters pick a highly skilled small or a tall who is not very good and thus has been overlooked by every team? TBH. I prefer injecting talent into the team.
The bigger question is if Stengle is a pick 6 rookie and Bolton is pick 27 in the main draft...and we are going off thinking about how good these 2 are, have we missed the bus this year by spreading our cheeks for Prestia?
We had 6 and 24 and the Lids deal coming our way...i just hope we havent once again gone the quick fix to save jobs
I think everybody here wanted to keep pick 6. Pick 24 for Caddy was reasonable. The problem is we promised a 2016 first round draft pick for Prestia almost a year before the deal was made. The club was trying desperately to get pick 13 from GWS for Lids but because the deal with Gibbs failed, pick 13 never went to GWS and we were forced to keep our promise and trade our only first round pick. Why the club makes promises like that, nobody knows. I think Prestia is an ok player as he is an upgrade on a lot of what we have. However, I'll be interested in Will Brodie's career as he was obtainable.
We gave up 6 and 24 for Prestia and 27 . As for us promising, yeah, it got us into the situation where we had to get yarran and nearly coughed up 12 and we learnt from that and went out and did it again. Why? because Benny and the Jets(the board) wanted to show us they could land a big fish...i mean Prestia is a big fish yes? Becauise the last time i looked Tom Mitchell was a bigger fish and he went for pick 14 and some change....what a stuffing mess.. Put the Lids deal through and we are laughing going into the next draft with 2 R1s after picking up a couple of beauties in Scrimshaw and Cox.
We gave up pick 6 and next years 2nd round pick for Prestia and pick 24
27 came as compo for losing Vickery
ok...my mistake then. We got 24 and gave it away for Caddy. So we still could have landed Cox and Prestia then. Just dont like the thougth that we have picked up a player who has been in the game for 5 years and at his 3rd club.
IMO this trade/draft period was a sign of no confidence in the current recruiting dept and it was deemed safer to go the used car lot rather than go to the drafft for a rebuild. Lets face it, they added the expertise of Luke Williams to the likes of FJ, Matt Clarke, Richard Taylor and Blair Hartley 3 years ago and we are well aware of the farse they have made of the drafts. As i said before, I cannot for the life of me understand how not one of these guys was shown the door, after we apparently sought reasons for our demise. Outside the IP they possesed re. this year, which to me meant nought anyway, seeing as we had committed to Prestia and basically put ourselves out of a draft that most teams were falling over backwards to get into. Its the quick fix road once again for us. Buys the board another 5-7 years of stability as we develop again :lol
Agree with everything you have said FG.
Giving up pick 6 for Prestia is a massive mistake.
I couldn't give a poo if and who we promised, pick 6 was massive overs for a fat, injury prone, only just above average midfielder (IMO)
We should have just told GC thanks but no thanks for that price and move on. But the RFC not having a backbone to go to the draft with that pick decided to take the easy way out.
Although I must admit I like the addition of Caddy for the pick we gave up.
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Excitement is in the blood for brilliant small forward Tyson Stengle
ANDREW CAPEL,
The Advertiser
November 19, 2016
IT is all in the blood for Woodville-West Torrens excitement machine Tyson Stengle.
Few footballers have such a pedigree as the 171cm pocket rocket.
Stengle is related to Crows star Eddie Betts, former Sydney 303-game star Michael O’Loughlin and ex-Crow Ricky O’Loughlin, along with former Saint Terry Milera, who is now at Glenelg.
And while Michael O’Loughlin has been his biggest role model, Stengle makes no bones about who he is modelling his game on.
“I want to be like Eddie,’’ the brilliant indigenous small forward said.
“My game is probably based around what he does because I’m the same height and I like to run, jump and tackle.
“I watch a lot of him play and try to take things from his game to put into mine.’’
With brilliant skills, blistering pace and a love of tackling and applying ferocious forward pressure, Stengle could be the nearest thing to Betts in this year’s AFL draft crop.
A Year 12 student at Le Fevre High School and a member of Port Adelaide’s AFL Aboriginal Academy, along with fellow Croweater and small forward draft prospect Kym LeBois from North Adelaide, Stengle is ranked by Champion Data as SA’s fourth-best prospect.
He averaged the second-most Champion Data ranking points (104) of any small forward at the national under-18 championships and ranked first for ground ball-gets inside 50 (four).
Stengle also ranked inside the top 10 at the goalkicking test at the AFL draft combine.
He illustrated his goalkicking prowess by kicking 22 goals in 10 reserves matches for the Eagles last season while also booting 13 in nine under-18 games.
Stengle said watching his heralded relatives excel on the football field has motivated him to follow in their footsteps.
“Watching them play, being around them and having them offer me some advice has really made me want to get the best out of myself,’’ he said.
“I’ve worked really hard on my football and being with the Port academy this year has helped me to become more professional on and off the field.
“Following in the footsteps of Michael, Eddie and the other boys and getting drafted would be a dream come true, so hopefully things go my way.’’
Twelve AFL clubs have interviewed Stengle in the lead-up to next Friday’s national draft.
PRIDE OF SA
Tyson Stengle
Woodville-West Torrens
18, 171cm, 69kg
Small forward
STICKS SAYS
“Tyson has a really nice feel for the game, which is something that is hard to teach. He’s got some genuine tricks, finishes for goal nicely and is so evasive that he is hard to tackle, like Adelaide’s Eddie Betts and Charlie Cameron.’’
- SANFL high performance manager Brenton Phillips.
DRAFT RANGE 51-70
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AFL draft combine: SA hopeful Tyson Stengle, Woodville West Torrens
Peter Argent
The Courier
25 Oct 2016, 2:30 p.m.
Tyson Stengle is from the Portland Thunder in the heart of Port Adelaide territory, where he started playing our national football code at Under 10s level.
The exceptionally skilled footballer proceeded through the Port Magpies development squad, but decided to move to Woodville West Torrens when the SANFL disbanded this clubs junior programs.
From the 2015 and ’16 seasons, Stengle has played predominately Under 18s Macca’s Cup football last winter, and has shared his clubs commitments between Under 18s and reserves football this year.
“My coach at the Eagles Shane Reardon has been an important mentor in football,” Stengle explained.
“And I have a bit of football heritage in the family.
“Uncle Alex Stengle played a handful of league games for Centrals.
“Both Michael and Ricky O’Loughlin are uncles as well.”
Both the O’Loughlin’s played AFL football, with Michael becoming a 303-game superstar of the Sydney Swans.
Younger brother Ricky played nine games (2000-2001) for the Adelaide Crows, as well as league football with the Magpies.
Alex Stengle, after with his SANFL efforts was an All Australian amateur and the first division one indigenous Pfitzner medallist when playing at Gepps Cross.
His older brother Anthony played 16 games for the Port Adelaide Magpies reserves this year and has been a pair of Port Adelaide’s aboriginal academy as well.
At SANFL reserves level, which included an appearance in the Grand Final this year Stengle kicked 22 goals with a best haul of four against North Adelaide in July and a quartet of three-goal efforts, displaying his consistency.
Noted as an exceptional decision maker with strong goal sense, the 171cm, 69 kg Stengle has genuine pace.
He has displayed a strong attribute to handle pressure and his composed in traffic.
Stengle was a consistent performer in a difficult small forward role in South Australian colours at under 18s level this season.
In the weekend before the national AFL combine, Stengle played with the Koonibba Roosters in the annual state-wide aboriginal championships.
Brenton Phillips’ thoughts on Tyson Stengle:
“Firstly Tyson is a respectful young man.
“Tyson has many of the traits of a complete small forward.
“He has exceptional skills and game sense.
“Calmness, being cool in the heat of battle and controlled when he has the ball in hand are among his strong traits.
“He is also very difficult to tackle, which you don’t see often.”
AFL Players with similar traits and strengths:
Eddie Betts (younger days)
AFL Draft Range:
For a club needing a smart small forward in the modern game, they would do well to collect Stengle because of his strong traits and ability to improve. Range 45 to rookie.
http://www.thecourier.com.au/story/4255462/afl-draft-combine-tyson-stengle-woodville-west-torrens/?cs=1802
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This young bloke is an enticing pick. Was it just his lack of height that prevented his selection in the ND ?
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that and the fact he weighs bout the same as my house cat
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that and the fact he weighs bout the same as my house cat
You have a 69kg house cat? :gobdrop
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that and the fact he weighs bout the same as my house cat
You have a 69kg house cat? :gobdrop
just having a cat is disturbing enough.........
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POTY
GIVE THE kid # 69
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Tyson Stengle taken by Richmond in AFL rookie draft
Daniela Abbracciavento
Messenger Community News
December 2, 2016
TYSON Stengle took a host of calls from family members after Richmond selected him in the AFL rookie draft, but one was extra special.
It came from his uncle and Sydney Swans great Michael O’Loughlin.
“Michael rang me earlier to congratulate me,” said Stengle on Monday, after being taken at No.6 with the Tigers’ only selection.
“He just told me to put my head down and work hard.”
Stengle, 18, has football royalty in his blood.
The Woodville-West Torrens small forward is also related to Adelaide star Eddie Betts, ex-Crow Ricky O’Loughlin and former St Kilda forward Terry Milera, who is now at Glenelg.
Michael played more than 300 AFL games with the Swans and Ricky appeared nine times for the Crows as well as in the SANFL for Port Adelaide.
Stengle, who was at a cousin’s house when he was picked, could not believe his luck after missing out in last week’s national draft.
“Ricky (O’Loughlin) sent me a text, too,” Stengle said.
Tyson Stengle (second from left) with fellow Richmond draftees Ryan Garthwaite, Shai Bolton and Jack Graham. Picture: Wayne Ludbey
“I’m pretty excited.
“Everyone went crazy and the family was really happy and everyone was congratulating me.
“I am a bit nervous (about moving to Melbourne) but I’m looking forward to the experience.”
Stengle, of Ethelton, completed Year 12 at Le Fevre High School and was a member of Port Adelaide’s AFL Aboriginal Academy, along with fellow Croweater and Carlton recruit Kym LeBois.
He averaged the second most Champion Data ranking points (104) of any small forward at the national under-18 championships and ranked first for ground-ball gets inside 50 (four).
Stengle also ranked inside the top 10 at the goalkicking test at the AFL draft combine.
He booted 22 goals in 10 reserves matches for the Eagles last season and managed 13 majors in nine under-18 games.
“The (draft) combine was a good experience … it was really busy and tough.
“I want to work on my endurance.”
Stengle is most looking forward to working with Richmond’s small forward Shane Edwards who was also originally from Adelaide.
http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/messenger/sport/tyson-stengle-taken-by-richmond-in-afl-rookie-draft/news-story/af3ab72a6313cfba0d594e3f98c192a9
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Tyson Stengle profile
afldraftcentral.com.au
Small Forward | Woodville-West Torrens/South Australia
19/10/1998 | 171cm | 69kg
Player comparison: Eddie Betts
Snapshot:
One of the best pure small forwards in the draft, Tyson Stengle has some real draftable qualities. After kicking 48 goals last year for Woodville-West Torrens in the Under 18s, Stengle this year has continued his great form at both state and club level.
Stengle has excelled as a small forward in 2016. In total he has shown a capability to kick goals at will and has also shown his ability to bring his teammates into the play as a forward. This has allowed Stengle to play that tradition small forward role who also gets his teammates involved up forward with his unselfishness and kicks opportunistic goals.
This form at both club and state level lead to him being selected to test at the national draft combine, one of only ten from South Australia to do so. Stengle has a lot of interest from clubs and it is not hard to see why with his ability to shake opponents, set up teammates and kick goals all being first class.
Statistics:
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Strengths:
Goal sense
Kicking
Evasiveness
Assisting
One of Stengle’s best traits as a forward is his goal sense. No matter where he is inside 50, you can expect when he sets sights for goal he will not miss. This goal sense makes Stengle a real threat up forward as he does not need much of the ball to have an impact when he can kick goals from anywhere.
Stengle is also a great field kick. When disposing of the ball by foot, he always hits his targets and weighs them to perfection. No matter the situation he makes sure he gets kicks the ball with the intention to hurt the opposition. Kicking is the most crucial skill at AFL level and the fact that Stengle is already proficient will bode well for him at draft time.
This field kicking ability has also allowed Stengle to set up his teammates up forward. As a small forward there is no better support act then Stengle in the forward line. He is as unselfish as they come and often tries to get his teammates into the game by getting them involved offensively. A testament to this is his score assist numbers which he averaged two assists a game which at AFL level is considered very good by his position.
Another skill Stengle has is his evasiveness. Up forward he is one of the hardest players to catch as he can dodge and weave unlike most. This combined with his great core strength makes him extremely elusive when he gets the ball. He is able to shake opponents is of the highest order and allows him to find space for himself up forward.
Improvements:
Athleticism
Left foot kicking
One thing that Stengle struggles with compared to other small forwards is athleticism. He is not extremely gifted in any athletic trait unlike other small forwards this year. Speed wise he isn’t flash, his endurance is average and vertically he will not be breaking any records. His lack of athleticism will not hinder him too much as a player but might stop him from being taken higher in the draft.
Stengle’s left foot kicking is also questionable. Tyson multiple times this year looks to avoid kicking on the his left foot and swing back onto his right. This unwillingness to kick on his left boot makes him really predictable for defenders as they know that if he has enough time he will swing on that right foot. This will need to be improved at AFL level as players need to be dual sided in the modern game.
Highlights: https://youtu.be/O2wh6meNKxA
Summary:
A player Stengle has drawn comparisons to is Eddie Betts. Stengle like Betts, bases his game around creating goals for his team individually or setting up their teammates. They both boast great evasiveness and kicking skills which is strong for small forwards. Betts also has a lack of athleticism but compensates with his evasiveness and footy smarts.
Stengle looks likely to be drafted in the later parts of the draft with a likelihood of him potential being a rookie pick. Clubs like Sydney, GWS and North Melbourne might look at Stengle late draft as they look to add talented smalls to their list.
Stengle as a small forward is the all-round prospect. In a year full of smalls has stood out and projects to be a strong prospect up forward. He has a rare ability as a small forward to impact games consistently as he can kick goals, set up teammates forward and create something from nothing up forward.
https://afldraftcentral.com.au/player/tyson-stengle/
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Tyson Stengle was a ward of the state — now he’s been drafted by AFL club Richmond
Lauren Novak,
AddPolitical Reporter,
The Advertiser
December 26, 2016
AT the age of just four, Tyson Stengle was removed from the care of his young parents by the state and taken in by his grandmother.
After a bumpy start, the youngster discovered Aussie Rules football and is now living every young man’s dream after being drafted to the AFL.
The 18-year-old will next year don the number 44 guernsey for the Richmond Tigers, 10 years after he first stepped on to a football field.
In an attempt to give Tyson and his older brother Anthony, now 19, some structure in their early years, they were enrolled at the local footy club and “that’s where it all started”, says grandfather Cecil Betts.
“They were only grasshoppers, we got them signed up and they played over 100 games for Portland Football Club,” he said.
“We needed to give them a different life. Football is a good thing, get them into sport, with the rules and regulations. I don’t think Tyson missed a training session.”
The boys were raised by their grandmother Debra until she passed away and have lived with their Nan and Pop, Emily and Cecil Betts, for the past four years.
Mr Betts recalls it was a rough start in life for the pair.
“Things took a turn for the worse (with their parents) and we wanted the kids to be in good care,” he said.
“But bad things can make you stronger. We know the road that they took and Tyson went through some things in his life but there’s a bit of light at the end of the tunnel.”
Tyson — who maintains contact with his mother — rose through the ranks of junior football, playing for the Port Magpies’ development squad and later the Woodville West Torrens Eagles.
Next year the small forward, who kicked a career-best 49 goals in 2015, will join up with Richmond.
“He said that that was his dream, that he really wanted to play AFL,” Mr Betts said.
“We’ve seen things that he’s done (on the field) and you end up scratching your head thinking how did he do that?”
A typical teenager, Tyson is clearly excited about the year ahead but, like many young men, he is economical with his words.
“It’s good. We’ve already started training. I’ve just come back for the Christmas break, to see family and catch up with friends,” he said.
A former student of Le Fevre High School in Adelaide’s west, Tyson moved to Melbourne about three weeks ago for pre-season training.
There are about 3300 children living in state care across South Australia, including more than 1400 who live with extended family, such as grandparents or aunts and uncles.
Another almost 1300 live with foster parents.
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/teams/richmond/tyson-stengle-was-a-ward-of-the-state-now-hes-been-drafted-by-afl-club-richmond/news-story/9898f22d9dba7bca5acc350e9b29597c
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Nice story :thumbsup
Let's hope that it's just the beginning :shh
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Watch Tyson Stengle highlights from Richmond's intra-club match.
VIDEO: http://www.richmondfc.com.au/video/2017-02-16/intraclub-stengle
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This kids a stuffin stuff, we have two problems to over come with him however, the natural tendency of our coaches to completely destroy natural flair and ability out of our players and his desire to go home back to Adelaide as soon as he can.
He is going to be something else.
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If he gets homesick and he's that good then we can trade him for Wines or Lever....
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If he is that good in front of the tiger army at the G, he wont want to go anywhere
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Watch Tyson Stengle highlights from Richmond's intra-club match.
VIDEO: http://www.richmondfc.com.au/video/2017-02-16/intraclub-stengle
He actually provided a shepherd, better not let the rest of the team see that!!
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Stengle, with Titch, all ready for his debut :thumbsup.
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https://twitter.com/Richmond_FC/status/881070374326161409
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Richmond assistant Blake Caracella spoke to 3AW before the game.
He said debutant Tyson Stengle is a player “reminiscent of the 1980s”.
http://www.3aw.com.au/live-footy-port-adelaide-v-richmond-from-the-adelaide-oval/
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Nothing earth shattering but 2 goals is a decent return from a small forward on debut. More importantly Tyson kicked them when it mattered.
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Nothing earth shattering but 2 goals is a decent return from a small forward on debut. More importantly Tyson kicked them when it mattered.
:clapping :clapping
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Liked him. Had a bit of mongrel too.
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Yep did well for a first gamer.
He is more your natural footballer type. Doesn't look blessed with pace but looks to make up for it in footy smarts.
Give the kid a block of games and see what he can do.
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Yep did well for a first gamer.
He is more your natural footballer type. Doesn't look blessed with pace but looks to make up for it in footy smarts.
Give the kid a block of games and see what he can do.
Smart ball user....they are like GOLD :cheers
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Composure & smarts, attributes worth their weight in platinum, especially at Richmond where they've always been the two rarest of commodities.... :shh
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Not saying he will even end up half the player but there's a lot of Betts in him..
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Not saying he will even end up half the player but there's a lot of Betts in him..
Well they are related I believe :clapping
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Took marks, didn't squib contact was great evading tackles and slotted a shot most of our midget forwards muffed more than once, ill take him.
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Not saying he will even end up half the player but there's a lot of Betts in him..
Well they are related I believe :clapping
Cousin Eddie ;D
Like the look of the Stengle Tiger
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Nothing like Betts.
Bolton is more so.
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Beautifully balanced with great kicking skills. A real footballer. Great game for a first game rookie. Nailed the goal that got us up and about. :clapping
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3 years ago we didn't have a single small forward that was any good to the extent that we even tried Morris down there. Now it looks like we have 5 of them. Cant play all 5 of them so they will have to learn to accept being in and out of the team. Not sure how each will develop but its a bright looking future as far as small forwards atm. Now lets get a couple off talls that are any good.
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Like the way he kicked his first goal.
Looks to have good self awareness and poise.
Went very well on his first game and is sure to improve.
Anyone want to Bett on it?
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Likewise.
Goes about it in his own way.
Good.
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3 years ago we didn't have a single small forward that was any good to the extent that we even tried Morris down there. Now it looks like we have 5 of them. Cant play all 5 of them so they will have to learn to accept being in and out of the team. Not sure how each will develop but its a bright looking future as far as small forwards atm. Now lets get a couple off talls that are any good.
Can we do the same for our kp and rucks
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3 years ago we didn't have a single small forward that was any good to the extent that we even tried Morris down there. Now it looks like we have 5 of them. Cant play all 5 of them so they will have to learn to accept being in and out of the team. Not sure how each will develop but its a bright looking future as far as small forwards atm. Now lets get a couple off talls that are any good.
I'm guessing one or two will be traded. Could come in handy
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The way he drilled that goal under pressure so calm and natural like he played 100 games you rarely see that from a first year player even from the top 10 players in the draft.
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McRae talking about on Stengle:
“It looks like he played his role really well . . . It was exactly what he was doing at VFL level,” McRae said on this week’s edition of Roar Vision’s ‘Coaches’ Corner’.
“I’m really happy for him.
“He’s been working hard at his craft.
“He’s a really likeable kid around the place and is really coachable.”
McRae outlined the key aspects of Stengle’s game that make him such an exciting prospect for the Tigers.
“It’s amazing, watching him at VFL (level), that he just never gets tackled,” McRae said.
“He’s got a great ability to be really composed in traffic and get out of traffic. He’s really strong with his core and keeps his feet really well, too.
“And then, once he’s got the ball, he’s a great decision-maker . . . he uses the ball extremely well inside 50.
“He’s also got the ability to play deep and mark over his head really well, one-on-one.
“As the season’s gone on, he’s impacted the scoreboard . . . but his pressure around the ball’s been very good, too . . .
“He’s a really clever player.”
Read more: http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2017-07-05/focus-on-tyson-stengle
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Looking forward to seeing more of this kid.
I've got a good feeling about him.
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Could see he was balanced, strong through the hips and poised with the ball, but for him to show it in his first game in one passage of play is pretty much all you could ask :clapping
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Nothing to do with Stengle but with 7 small fwds on the list it is an actual plethora. We should be looking to trade out three of these players but who?
Edwards 28yo
Lloyd 27yo
Butler 21yo
Castagna 20yo
Rioli 20yo
Bolton 18yo
Stengle 18yo
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Titch isn't playing as a small forward, technically I'd also say Llordo is more your lead up 3rd marking forward
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Titch isn't playing as a small forward, technically I'd also say Llordo is more your lead up 3rd marking forward
well you have found two to get the arse.