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Football => Richmond Rant => Topic started by: one-eyed on December 27, 2016, 02:05:20 PM
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The RFC website is going to have a series asking to select the best players to have filled each of the traditional on-field positions for the Tigers throughout the past half-century.
First up is the best Full-Forward out of Disco, BT, Hoggy, Richo and Jack?
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2016-12-26/top-tigers-fullforward
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Snip! Stick to the topic ::).
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LMAO
how did that happen?
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Sounds like we need a Family Peace Foundation 8 day truce.
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While Richo kicked 800 goals, he played his best footy away from the goalsquare.
Disco was our best true FF IMO.
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While Richo kicked 800 goals, he played his best footy away from the goalsquare.
Disco was our best true FF IMO.
Agreed. And a straighter kick too.
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While Richo kicked 800 goals, he played his best footy away from the goalsquare.
Disco was our best true FF IMO.
Agreed. And a straighter kick too.
and a better mark
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Roach was fantastic. However, he played in great sides. Richo was an amazing player. He had to put up with double and triple teaming him for the majority of his career. Very hard to separate. As a sharp shooter, Roach. As a guy who could frustrate yet win the game of his own boot, Richo.
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Not Jack
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While Richo kicked 800 goals, he played his best footy away from the goalsquare.
Disco was our best true FF IMO.
Agreed. And a straighter kick too.
and a better mark
Not even close.
Richo was one of the best marks of his time.
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While Richo kicked 800 goals, he played his best footy away from the goalsquare.
Disco was our best true FF IMO.
Agreed. And a straighter kick too.
and a better mark
Not even close.
Richo was one of the best marks of his time.
Yep, more contested grabs than Duck Carey.
Absolutely ridiculous to say Roach was a better mark, perhaps a better lead and definitely fed by a better midfield.
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While Richo kicked 800 goals, he played his best footy away from the goalsquare.
Disco was our best true FF IMO.
Agreed. And a straighter kick too.
and a better mark
Not even close.
Richo was one of the best marks of his time.
Yep, more contested grabs than Duck Carey.
Absolutely ridiculous to say Roach was a better mark, perhaps a better lead and definitely fed by a better midfield.
True.
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Jack has won the Coleman twice so did Disco but jacks was in an awful team with a terrible coach who has moved him away from the goal square. Roach was the pointy end of the comps best midfield and he did kick 100.
Richo played half forward a lot during his career and won his brownlow votes on the wing. He was also a terrible kick and had terrible tantrums on field.
I think jack has overcome more odds for his results. For me its him or disco but i edge toward jack.
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Jack has won the Coleman twice so did Disco but jacks was in an awful team with a terrible coach who has moved him away from the goal square. Roach was the pointy end of the comps best midfield and he did kick 100.
Richo played half forward a lot during his career and won his brownlow votes on the wing. He was also a terrible kick and had terrible tantrums on field.
I think jack has overcome more odds for his results. For me its him or disco but i edge toward jack.
How many missed shots for each?
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According to an old big footy thread:-
https://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/who-was-the-most-accurate-of-all-100-goal-full-forwards.471721/
Roach kicked at 66.7%. In his early days he was going at a rate of 74%.
Confirmed at footywire, along with comparison with Richo and Jack:-
http://www.footywire.com/afl/footy/ft_player_compare?playerStatus1=I&tid1=15&playerStatus2=I&tid2=15&type=T&pid1=2908&pid2=336&fid1=C&fid2=C
http://www.footywire.com/afl/footy/ft_player_compare?playerStatus1=I&tid1=15&playerStatus2=A&tid2=15&type=A&pid1=2908&pid2=1731&fid1=C&fid2=C
Disco - 66.7% accuracy, with an average of 3.0 goals 1.5 points per game.
Richo - 59.0% accuracy, with an average of 2.8 goals 2.0 points per game.
Jack - 62.8% accuracy, with an average of 2.4 goals 1.4 points per game.
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According to an old big footy thread:-
https://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/who-was-the-most-accurate-of-all-100-goal-full-forwards.471721/
Roach kicked at 66.7%. In his early days he was going at a rate of 74%.
Confirmed at footywire, along with comparison with Richo and Jack:-
http://www.footywire.com/afl/footy/ft_player_compare?playerStatus1=I&tid1=15&playerStatus2=I&tid2=15&type=T&pid1=2908&pid2=336&fid1=C&fid2=C
http://www.footywire.com/afl/footy/ft_player_compare?playerStatus1=I&tid1=15&playerStatus2=A&tid2=15&type=A&pid1=2908&pid2=1731&fid1=C&fid2=C
Disco - 66.7% accuracy, with an average of 3.0 goals 1.5 points per game.
Richo - 59.0% accuracy, with an average of 2.8 goals 2.0 points per game.
Jack - 62.8% accuracy, with an average of 2.4 goals 1.4 points per game.
Thanks, Dooks..
Good one.
There's the answer?
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Disco kicked about half his career goals from 66 games between 79-81.
288 to be exact at an average of 4.3 per game
Contrasted with 313 in 134 games at 2.3 per game.
He kicked more than 50 goals in a season just 5 times in his career, Jack is at 6 from 9 full seasons and Richo is at 8 times.
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Let's be thankful there's an argument to be had unlike the other thread where Tyrone is a stuffing choice :lol
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Roach was excellent overhead & a superb kick for goal, but his physicality was poor - played like Bambi at times. Richo was outstanding overhead but awful with set shots, he played like a bear with a headache - closest player to Godzilla I have seen. Jack is very strong overhead, reliable from a set shot, reads the ball brilliantly in the air & on the ground .... oh ... this could go on for days!
Lets just say that each player had/has his pros & cons.
But I think Jack is the most complete player out of them all .... :-\
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What are Mark Jackson's stats? :snidegrin
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What are Mark Jackson's stats? :snidegrin
Not sure, perhaps we could ask Mike Sheahan
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Yeh look, I'd check myself but doubt I could find them.
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What are Mark Jackson's stats? :snidegrin
Most similar to Roach's
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So, he's in the top 3 ! :clapping
What an individual.
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I find Jack's set shot kicking hasn't been as reliable in 2016. Apparently due to that finger which affected his ball drop. I hope it is just a case of the finger because you used to be able to bet your house on him to nail set set shots
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I find Jack's set shot kicking hasn't been as reliable in 2016. Apparently due to that finger which affected his ball drop. I hope it is just a case of the finger because you used to be able to bet your house on him to nail set set shots
SEN interview he seemed to be fairly certain that it was impacting his ball drop. The worry with Jack is the volume of work he's missed due to various surgeries. Hopefully it doesn't impact his 2917
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I find Jack's set shot kicking hasn't been as reliable in 2016. Apparently due to that finger which affected his ball drop. I hope it is just a case of the finger because you used to be able to bet your house on him to nail set set shots
SEN interview he seemed to be fairly certain that it was impacting his ball drop. The worry with Jack is the volume of work he's missed due to various surgeries. Hopefully it doesn't impact his 2917
I think he has more to worry about in 2917 than his amount of surgeries
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:lol
Games record broken by a lazy thousand odd years!
Eat poo Boomer!
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I dont think you can take total goals kicked as a yard stick because footy became so much more defensive and all round footballers are required these days. So even if jack is better around the ground than disco its just the age they play in. I find it very hard to pick still.
At least i cant remember jack kicking out on the full from 15m out set shot. Did Roach ever?