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Football => View from the Outer => Topic started by: one-eyed on February 04, 2017, 01:30:11 AM
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A full house last night at Princes Park for the first ever AFL Women's league match.
CARLTON 3.0 4.1 6.1 7.4 (46)
COLLINGWOOD 1.2 1.4 1.5 1.5 (11)
GOALS
Carlton: Vescio 4, Arnell, Davey, Jakobsson
Collingwood: Garner
BEST
Carlton: Davey, Vescio, Exon, Jakobsson, Arnell, Keryk
Collingwood: D'Arcy, Chiocci, Barden, White
Official crowd: 24,568 at Ikon Park, Carlton
The AFL officially declared a lock out at 8pm, midway through the first quarter. League CEO Gillon McLachlan made an announcement to the crowd at quarter time to address the situation. McLachlan also ventured outside the ground to apologise to the 1000-2000 estimated people unable to get into the venue, based on the advice of Victoria Police. The AFL, of course, moved the historic first match of from Olympic Park Oval to Ikon Park due to concerns over the size of the Magpies' ground. McLachlan said; "It's an amazing turnout and clearly we're a little overwhelmed by the response."
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2017-02-03/blue-ribbon-day-for-aflw-as-carlton-downs-collingwood-in-inaugural-match
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Seven goals to one - sounds like a real cracker.... :clapping
Anyway, why would we give a stuff? Richmond isn't even involved in this competition.
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I watched bits and pieces of the game and won't watch again. Far worse than local park footy.
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Set aside some time to watch it.
I wasnt entertained. Standard was alot poorer than i expected and my expectations were low. Others may disagree.
It has a place and should be kept but once the novelty wears off i suspect it will be near empty stands.
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Currently at the Whitten Oval.
Wish our blokes attacked contests and tackled like they are out here this evening
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Currently at the Whitten Oval.
Wish our blokes attacked contests and tackled like they are out here this evening
LMFAO.
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Currently at the Whitten Oval.
Wish our blokes attacked contests and tackled like they are out here this evening
LMFAO.
LMFAO
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The standard was horrendous
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Currently at the Whitten Oval.
Wish our blokes attacked contests and tackled like they are out here this evening
In defence of WP that's probably the main positive evident thing about Aflw - the have a crack.
The standard of skill is pretty low atm but. Some can't even kick 25-30m let alone hit a target.
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Currently at the Whitten Oval.
Wish our blokes attacked contests and tackled like they are out here this evening
In defence of WP that's probably the main positive evident thing about Aflw - the have a crack.
The standard of skill is pretty low atm but. Some can't even kick 25-30m let alone hit a target.
Agree, never said the skill level was outstanding. Actually not surprised by that part of it TBBH
But their attack on the contest is superior to what alot of their male counterparts dish up each week
Having watched a game live I have to say it's alot better to watch live. Atmosphere is fantastic was just a really fun night.
If people can, would suggest they go and have a look
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Not sure.
The men would get crucified by 'experts' if they dropped some of the marks some of the girls are dropping under little to no physical pressure
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Currently at the Whitten Oval.
Wish our blokes attacked contests and tackled like they are out here this evening
In defence of WP that's probably the main positive evident thing about Aflw - the have a crack.
The standard of skill is pretty low atm but. Some can't even kick 25-30m let alone hit a target.
Agree, never said the skill level was outstanding. Actually not surprised by that part of it TBBH
But their attack on the contest is superior to what alot of their male counterparts dish up each week
Having watched a game live I have to say it's alot better to watch live. Atmosphere is fantastic was just a really fun night.
If people can, would suggest they go and have a look
I think the statement thats its a better live game is taking it a bit far due to poor skills. And no i havent been to a game but watched them on tv.
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Currently at the Whitten Oval.
Wish our blokes attacked contests and tackled like they are out here this evening
In defence of WP that's probably the main positive evident thing about Aflw - the have a crack.
The standard of skill is pretty low atm but. Some can't even kick 25-30m let alone hit a target.
Agree, never said the skill level was outstanding. Actually not surprised by that part of it TBBH
But their attack on the contest is superior to what alot of their male counterparts dish up each week
Having watched a game live I have to say it's alot better to watch live. Atmosphere is fantastic was just a really fun night.
If people can, would suggest they go and have a look
I think the statement thats its a better live game is taking it a bit far due to poor skills. And no i havent been to a game but watched them on tv.
I mean watching it live as opposed to watching it on TV; it's a better spectacle.
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Currently at the Whitten Oval.
Wish our blokes attacked contests and tackled like they are out here this evening
In defence of WP that's probably the main positive evident thing about Aflw - the have a crack.
The standard of skill is pretty low atm but. Some can't even kick 25-30m let alone hit a target.
Agree, never said the skill level was outstanding. Actually not surprised by that part of it TBBH
But their attack on the contest is superior to what alot of their male counterparts dish up each week
Having watched a game live I have to say it's alot better to watch live. Atmosphere is fantastic was just a really fun night.
If people can, would suggest they go and have a look
I think the statement thats its a better live game is taking it a bit far due to poor skills. And no i havent been to a game but watched them on tv.
I mean watching it live as opposed to watching it on TV; it's a better spectacle.
Ok yep.
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The noticeable tactical difference is the switch of play across HB. Unless you have a teammate free then it's a very risky in the women's version as their kicking lacks the power and speed through the air to make a clean transition (having said that plenty of our boys love the slow up and under kick across HB :P ). I felt the use of hands and handball receives to runners splitting the lines worked better for a quick transition in the women's game. Carlton appeared to use tactic well whereas Collingwood just went the aimless bomb forward 1960s style which was easily picked off.
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It's early days. They ought to play it mid week then they'd get a TV audience if it's mid afl season
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Forget about seeing a Richmond team in the AFLW for a few years.
NO AFLW EXPANSION IN 2018
THERE will be no new teams in the AFLW next season after chief executive Gillon McLachlan today reiterated new licenses wouldn't be available until 2019 at the earliest.
The success of the women's league has surpassed expectations and clubs without a team are keen to get involved as soon as possible.
"Pretty much off the table (expansion in 2018)," he said at a Melbourne Press Club lunch today.
"I believe we need to consolidate for the year ⌠and then expand again in the 2019 season.
"We continue to discuss that, but thatâs where we are today.
"I said to the clubs who made a submission for a licence in the first instance â there was 13 submissions, five clubs who missed who will be the first cab off the rank.
"We need to make sure we are running at speed and we maintain the right standard and deal with that.
"Thereâs a lot of clubs who really want licences and I accept that, and of course youâre always having discussions but weâre pretty keen to also consolidate."
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/more-news/afl-daily-live-rolling-footy-news-from-around-australia/news-story/f8294d43a5da57d5385629486a7cd0c3
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The dude with the weird username that has brackets will be happy with that.
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Good hard fought down to the wire inaugural Women's Grand Final in front of a crowd of 15k. The AFL will be rapt.
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Will fold in 5 years....
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Didn't even know the final was on. No one gives a shyte since the real stuff has started
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Would be double the interest rate if they played in lingerie
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....only if they started mainly recruiting from outside the sport, Chucky.... :shh
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Sarah Perkins :wub :wub
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Good hard fought down to the wire inaugural Women's Grand Final in front of a crowd of 15k. The AFL will be rapt.
Did anyone pay to get in?
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Good hard fought down to the wire inaugural Women's Grand Final in front of a crowd of 15k. The AFL will be rapt.
Did anyone pay to get in?
The late shift to Metricon meant it was free entry. Still the crowd was 25% higher than what the men's derby got later that night.
Will fold in 5 years....
Highly unlikely given the AFL would've originally budgeted to pay for everything and not banked on the publicity and interest the AFLW actually got. In the battle for sporting media attention all year round, the AFLW provides the AFL with more content to promote during February/March before the men's comp. starts. In time, it will also boost participation numbers in the game as more and more girls take up footy at lower levels now there's a pathway to playing professionally. Numbers speak to sponsors, governments, etc = more $$$ into the sport.
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surprise surprise it was free entry..
tbh I just cant ever see it becoming strong in junior participation - reckon netball, soccer and basketball will always be the pick of the sports by the parents
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So glad to see aflw leading the way in "equality" with a shot of 2 descent looking girls passing on the herald sun
Blobbo the best journo going around
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surprise surprise it was free entry..
tbh I just cant ever see it becoming strong in junior participation - reckon netball, soccer and basketball will always be the pick of the sports by the parents
It's quickly becoming the pick of the sport for the girls though.
Participation is growing at a phenomenal rate.
Interest may wane in the top level comp as the novelty value wears off, but from a participation point of view at lower levers it is growing exponentially, and clubs that don't embrace it do so at their own risk.
Talking to someone from an eastern suburbs club on the weekend that has recently started up a netball and womens team. The two dont seem to be conflicting with each other at all, and many women are playing in both for the club.
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surprise surprise it was free entry..
tbh I just cant ever see it becoming strong in junior participation - reckon netball, soccer and basketball will always be the pick of the sports by the parents
It's quickly becoming the pick of the sport for the girls though.
Participation is growing at a phenomenal rate.
Interest may wane in the top level comp as the novelty value wears off, but from a participation point of view at lower levers it is growing exponentially, and clubs that don't embrace it do so at their own risk.
Talking to someone from an eastern suburbs club on the weekend that has recently started up a netball and womens team. The two dont seem to be conflicting with each other at all, and many women are playing in both for the club.
Yep. This is from the local paper:
Womenâs football booming
Jon Andrews,
Bayside Leader
2 April, 2017
MORE than 1200 women have registered to play in the first female Victorian Amateur Football Association competition, highlighting the soaring success of grassroots girls footy.
VAFA board member and former Bayside Mayor Felicity Frederico said the strong numbers meant it was the largest female football competition in Australia.
She said with the recent achievements of the national AFLW season, the hunger for women to get involved was inspiring.
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/leader/inner-south/campaigns/more-than-1200-girls-register-to-take-the-field-in-first-womens-vafa-season/news-story/19d003ec25bf78ac44e36fcbffb7e603
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Instead of heresay and a broad statement in the news, I'd like to see see some cold hard facts and figures. 18 months ago they were way behind. There would be a spike now bc of the novelty factor, but once that wears off I stand by my statement that i cant ever see football getting anywhere near, soccer, netball and basketball in junior girls participation numbers
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Instead of heresay and a broad statement in the news, I'd like to see see some cold hard facts and figures. 18 months ago they were way behind. There would be a spike now bc of the novelty factor, but once that wears off I stand by my statement that i cant ever see football getting anywhere near, soccer, netball and basketball in junior girls participation numbers
Girl participation numbers aren't that high compared to boys (except for netball). Soccer's huge growth has been more with boys.
The participation numbers for girls (organised sport outside of school hours) - Jan 2016:
Swimming 710k
Netball 324k
Dancing (rec) 308k
Gymnastics 264k
Soccer 136k
Athletics 112k
Basketball 111k
Tennis 108k
Dance Sport 86k
Aussie Rules 45k
Children in total out of interest:
Swimming 1,379k
Soccer 674k
Aussie Rules 366k
(ahead of Netball, Basketball, Cricket)
https://www.clearinghouseforsport.gov.au/__data/assets/pdf_file/0011/735239/34648_AusPlay_summary_report_accessible2.pdf
So if the AFLW can lead to more girls joining clubs and playing Aussie Rules then it may push girl participation numbers to not far behind sports like Soccer and Basketball. Netball is far ahead the No.1 girls team sport but more girls playing Aussie Rules should mean Aussie Rules will continue to have higher total (boys+girls) numbers than Netball.
ps. The main thing is kids play sport btw and IMHO try playing as many different sports as possible. I know I played Cricket (summer) & Soccer (winter) on Saturday morning before heading off to watch the footy (all games were 2pm start in the 80s :oldguy ). That was followed by kick-to-kick on the ground and a kick in the backyard or local park on Sunday. The good thing about the AFLW is it doesn't necessarily prevent even professional sportswomen from playing professional soccer, basketball, netball, cricket, etc as well.
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'AFLW a hit with fans, corporates - but real test begins in season two'
By Arvind Hickman
adspace.com.au
11 April 2017
The inaugural AFLW season has exceeded the expectations of sports sponsorship agents and the competition's official broadcaster, but the real test will now be sustaining first season momentum to grow the game.
The competition produced average crowds of 7,000 and free-to-air viewership on par with the bigger WBBL games.
In the first weekend, the four games broadcast had a national reach of 2.6 million viewers, with the match between Carlton and Collingwood attracting an average metro audience of 593,000. The first game of the season was so popular that fans were locked out after the 24,000 seat Ikon Park reached capacity well before kick off.
Ratings on Seven's coverage fell away in subsequent weeks but still maintained a metro average of just above 270,000 over eight games, fuelled by strong interest in Melbourne (accounting for an average of 211,000).
Fox Sports attracted an average of 64,040 across its 25 games. The grand final between eventual champions Adelaide and Brisbane attracted a metro audience of 360,000.
Seven's network director of sports sales Patrick Moloughney recently told AdNews interest in the womenâs game has even given the code more talkability and a longer lead in period to engage the corporate sector in the lead up to the men's footy season.
Moloughney adds that the women's game has not only attracted new fans, but also brought new brands to the sport.
Exceeded expectations
Gemba Goup head of strategy for Asia-Pacific, Craig Roberts, tells AdNews the level of interest, media coverage and positivity around the AFLW certainly exceeded his expectations.
âWhether or not itâs bringing significant new sponsorship money into the industry just yet, brands have certainly been willing to align with the AFLW at both League and club level,â he says
âFor a new competition, itâs difficult to know what success really looks like and the real test will be sustaining momentum into future seasons. But overall, the attendances and ratings have been similar to the WBBL in its launch season.â
That said, Roberts points out that in reality the AFLW is not a mass reach proposition in the way the traditional, established sports properties are.
âBut itâs an opportunity for some brands that might not typically be associated with sport, or menâs sport in particular, to align their brands with sport and tap into the passionate audiences that sport brings,â he adds.
âThereâs also positive sentiment around being early backers and supporters of elite womenâs sport, so for brands like NAB who took a bit of a risk in sponsoring a new property, they can use AFLW to help position themselves as innovators and active supporters of female athletes and competitions. This in turn helps to build their corporate social responsibility footprint as underwriters of a new national competition.â
A 'watershed' year
In a comment piece for AdNews today, The Bastion Collective CEO Jack Watts believes the past year has been a watershed moment for women's sport and âsavvy sponsorsâ are now expanding their remit to include women's teams as well as men.
Aside from NAB, Holden sponsors both Collingwood teams and Visy and Hyundai sponsor both Carlton teams.
âWomenâs sport is also attracting new sponsors, including blue-chip companies such as Priceline (AFL), Nissan (grassroots netball league), and Suncorp (Suncorp Super Netball league),â Watts adds.
Then there's the likes of global insurer Aon, which has signed on as a shirt sponsor of women's rugby and as a naming sponsor of a new universities competition while Rebel has heavily backed women's Big Bash League.
âOver the next three years, we will see the industry consolidate as it continues its upward trajectory,â adds Watts, who's firm helps brands plan and execute sports sponsorship.
âWith major sponsors on board and multi-year broadcasting deals in place, womenâs sport will go from strength to strength. My tip for big brands wanting to invest is womenâs sport grassroots leagues â this is the major growth opportunity for 2017-18.â
An 'arms race'
Although the AFLW had a great opening season, the code won't have it its own way. More than 100,000 attended the second season of the Womenâs Big Bash League, with another 1.5 million watching online.
While for the first round of the Suncorp Super Netball, 19,559 spectators were in attendance and 850,000 watched all four games at peak viewership.
âOur research shows that interest in the AFLW overall is in line with the other major national womenâs competitions â netball and cricket. Interest in AFLW is higher than in the W-League soccer and the WNBL basketball league,â Roberts points out.
âAmong AFL fanatics, about 38% are very interested in the AFLW. and Iâm sure the AFL will be hoping that more of their core fan base convert their interest across to the womenâs competition next year.
The real test will come in the second season to see if the AFLW can maintain or broaden interest levels or whether it will drop away as the novelty factor wears off.
This will require an investment in female talent pathways to improve the depth and quality of the game.
âItâs created a bit of an arms race and a battle for talent for elite female athletes. And itâs brought a lot of attention to womenâs sport more broadly which can only help to grow the category.â
http://www.adnews.com.au/news/aflw-a-hit-with-fans-corporates-but-real-test-begins-in-season-two#jWZCuMgh7dCV3u2q.99
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THE PRIZE at stake in the NAB AFLW is more than a cup; it's the hearts and minds of the code's newest fan base â five to 12-year-old girls.
And that's why so many are keen to breath in the fresh AFLW air.
One of those waiting in the wings is Richmond. The Tigers have got a license, but have to bide their time until 2020.
President Peggy O'Neal concedes there's been a lot of jostling among clubs.
"We wanted a women's team from the start," O'Neal told AFL.com.au.
"The mood around the table was, we all want a team right now," she added when reflecting on the conversation among club presidents.
"It was very competitive and we were all thinking why not us?"
And for O'Neal, forced to deal with premiership player Nathan Broad's social media antics in the wake of the Grand Final, having more woman at the club can only help the Tigers' culture evolve.
"Having more woman around the place makes it a better place to come to work," she said.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2018-02-02/aflw-prize-more-than-the-premiership-cup
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Just quietly i wish there was a filter button on the AFL site and media sites that could be pressed to filter out the AFLW articles.
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22-14 in dry conditions, wow wee must have been an amazing defensive effort by both sides...... :clapping
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22-14 in dry conditions, wow wee must have been an amazing defensive effort by both sides...... :clapping
Well the free flowing scoring picked up in the Lions Crows game 31-19
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:yawn
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It's early days. They ought to play it mid week then they'd get a TV audience if it's mid afl season
Because people enjoy watching awkward bodies, cumbersomely lumbering after a competitive ball at local division, under 14 level?
Throw in identity politics as the catalyst and to detract from the lack of talent and natural ability and they won't be able to denounce the concept in any way, shape or manner.
It's hilarious. đ
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Just quietly i wish there was a filter button on the AFL site and media sites that could be pressed to filter out the AFLW articles.
This
Never seen something so lame get so much exposure
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THE AFL has sent an extraordinary memo, calling for AFLW coaches to adjust their tactics this weekend in order to reduce congestion.
Foxfooty.com.au has obtained the memo, which was sent by AFL football operations boss Steve Hocking to the eight clubs with AFLW teams, that asks for coaches to instruct less players to surround stoppages in Round 2.
(https://cdn.newsapi.com.au/image/v1/043f28fae09e82cc9fd1c6b1d6c01970)
https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/jess-wuetschner-slams-afl-memo-calling-for-aflw-coaches-to-adjust-tactics-to-reduce-congestion/news-story/4bce24d5624c10bf0b99d34062f10ab0
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Heh...
(https://cdndata.bigfooty.com/2018/02/459488_08befc4877fc388fdb0454f68cc183a6.png)
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Tigers AFLW football boss Kate Sheahan heaps pressure on Pies coach.
https://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/sport/afl/tigers-aflw-football-boss-kate-sheahan-heaps-pressure-on-pies-coach-20180219-p4z0vr.html
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After a studious and careful review of the scoring levels in the AFLW I believe they need to take the goal posts out and put them halfway between where the goal posts use to be and the point posts.
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Leigh Matthews goes BANG
https://twitter.com/simonsperling/status/1568437754048188416?s=46&t=0lUejhOVEXZfhw-VQPwsxA
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Leigh Matthews goes BANG
https://twitter.com/simonsperling/status/1568437754048188416?s=46&t=0lUejhOVEXZfhw-VQPwsxA
He was too nice
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I watched about half the Cats / Pies game and jeez what a snorefest.
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I watched about half the Cats / Pies game and jeez what a snorefest.
The sport isnât ready and will take time
Diluting it with too many teams too early was a big BIG mistake
Truly , as a spectacle itâs a lower quality than a reserves game in the outback
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It is so boring itâs not funny. Iâve tried, but itâs as bad as what the a league is now.
Would rather watch paint dry to be fair.
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I watched about half the Cats / Pies game and jeez what a snorefest.
The sport isnât ready and will take time
Diluting it with too many teams too early was a big BIG mistake
Truly , as a spectacle itâs a lower quality than a reserves game in the outback
Yep I agree and have said it myself. They're expanding too quick. Would be a better game to watch with half the teams.
I don't even think we should have 18 mens teams ffs
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The soon-to-be-confirmed length of future AFLW seasons:
2024: 11 home & away games (potentially 12, pending 2023 crowds) + finals
2025: 12 H & A games + finals
2026-28: Min 12 H & A games, max 14. Dependent on key metrics (crowds, broadcast audience etc) + finals.
@1116sen
https://twitter.com/tommorris32/status/1704368423005049256