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Title: Two things that couldn't be clearer heading into round 1
Post by: 🏅Dooks on March 11, 2017, 03:40:44 PM
1. The Richmond of old is very much not dead. Lack of onfield leadership, poor efforts, no tackling and spraying kicks. And no moves from the coaches box!.We could be in for a long year if the first quarter is of today's game is any indication.

2. The fab 4 Houli, B Ellis, Hunt and Conca are absolute liabilities by foot. Turnover kings. The less these guys play the more precise and damaging our kicking will be and the less goals we will leak.
Title: Re: Two things that couldn't be clearer heading into round 1
Post by: Lozza on March 11, 2017, 03:48:53 PM
1. Don't play Houli
2. Don't play BEllis
Title: Re: Two things that couldn't be clearer heading into round 1
Post by: tony_montana on March 11, 2017, 03:54:53 PM
We wouldn't miss anything if all 4 never played. How can we possibly think we are finals material when you have those 4 as locks in the side plus Griffiths, Batchelor, grigg. Way to many average players
Title: Re: Two things that couldn't be clearer heading into round 1
Post by: Jackstar 1960 on March 11, 2017, 04:10:31 PM
1. Don't play Houli
2. Don't play BEllis

Bit harsh
50 possessions between them
Title: Re: Two things that couldn't be clearer heading into round 1
Post by: YellowandBlackBlood on March 11, 2017, 04:11:45 PM
1. Don't play Houli
2. Don't play BEllis

Bit harsh
50 possessions between them
True but a lot of those possessions were not to our advantage. They always seem to make poor choices when going forward.
Title: Re: Two things that couldn't be clearer heading into round 1
Post by: The Machine on March 11, 2017, 04:29:41 PM
Conca was very good and that was the best game Ellis has played for a long time.
Houli and Hunt can't be played in the same team ever! Houli is a momentum killer with his decision making :help
Title: Re: Two things that couldn't be clearer heading into round 1
Post by: Lozza on March 11, 2017, 04:37:43 PM
1. Don't play Houli
2. Don't play BEllis

Bit harsh
50 possessions between them
Just get frustrated with the constant turnovers from both of them and the BEllis kicks that go 20 metres in distance but 50 metres in the air, gives our guys no advantage whatsoever.
Title: Re: Two things that couldn't be clearer heading into round 1
Post by: Chopstix on March 11, 2017, 04:38:58 PM
We must play Short, Kmac and Markov before Hunt. Then work out who we can fit in the team from Houli, Conca, Grigg and B Ellis.

We lacked run and dare and speed off half back against the Magpies today.

It was back to worrying signs from familiar faces today.



Title: Re: Two things that couldn't be clearer heading into round 1
Post by: Ruanaidh on March 11, 2017, 04:53:06 PM
We must play Short, Kmac and Markov before Hunt. Then work out who we can fit in the team from Houli, Conca, Grigg and B Ellis.

We lacked run and dare and speed off half back against the Magpies today.

It was back to worrying signs from familiar faces today.
yep they should be 'locks' for round one.
Title: Re: Two things that couldn't be clearer heading into round 1
Post by: YellowandBlackBlood on March 11, 2017, 04:58:38 PM
We must play Short, Kmac and Markov before Hunt. Then work out who we can fit in the team from Houli, Conca, Grigg and B Ellis.

We lacked run and dare and speed off half back against the Magpies today.

It was back to worrying signs from familiar faces today.
yep they should be 'locks' for round one.
Why is it we can see this but Dimma cannot? :banghead
Title: Re: Two things that couldn't be clearer heading into round 1
Post by: Jackstar 1960 on March 11, 2017, 05:08:36 PM
We must play Short, Kmac and Markov before Hunt. Then work out who we can fit in the team from Houli, Conca, Grigg and B Ellis.

We lacked run and dare and speed off half back against the Magpies today.

It was back to worrying signs from familiar faces today.

Ah no
Couldn't possibly play Short or Markov on what I saw last night
Title: Re: Two things that couldn't be clearer heading into round 1
Post by: YellowandBlackBlood on March 11, 2017, 05:18:15 PM
We must play Short, Kmac and Markov before Hunt. Then work out who we can fit in the team from Houli, Conca, Grigg and B Ellis.

We lacked run and dare and speed off half back against the Magpies today.

It was back to worrying signs from familiar faces today.

Ah no
Couldn't possibly play Short or Markov on what I saw last night
Really? They had like 6 goals kicked against them for the entire game!
Title: Re: Two things that couldn't be clearer heading into round 1
Post by: tony_montana on March 11, 2017, 05:21:02 PM
 :lol
Title: Re: Two things that couldn't be clearer heading into round 1
Post by: Yeahright on March 11, 2017, 05:36:21 PM
1. Don't play Houli
2. Don't play BEllis

Bit harsh
50 possessions between them

Of stuffing course you'd chime in with that :lol :lol

Short should come in for him. Played that role last year much better than Houli. Additionally, Rublabla and others have claimed he played a very good game last night. Not sure what you base his poor game on but I don't really care if you based Ellis' and Houli's game on their number of touches
Title: Re: Two things that couldn't be clearer heading into round 1
Post by: Jackstar 1960 on March 11, 2017, 05:59:57 PM
1. Don't play Houli
2. Don't play BEllis

Bit harsh
50 possessions between them

Of stuffing course you'd chime in with that :lol :lol

Short should come in for him. Played that role last year much better than Houli. Additionally, Rublabla and others have claimed he played a very good game last night. Not sure what you base his poor game on but I don't really care if you based Ellis' and Houli's game on their number of touches

Short played on a top up VFL player last night
No 88 by memory
Only players that would be considered from last nights game are Lennon and McIntosh
Title: Re: Two things that couldn't be clearer heading into round 1
Post by: YellowandBlackBlood on March 11, 2017, 06:02:42 PM
1. Don't play Houli
2. Don't play BEllis

Bit harsh
50 possessions between them

Of stuffing course you'd chime in with that :lol :lol

Short should come in for him. Played that role last year much better than Houli. Additionally, Rublabla and others have claimed he played a very good game last night. Not sure what you base his poor game on but I don't really care if you based Ellis' and Houli's game on their number of touches

Short played on a top up VFL player last night
No 88 by memory
Only players that would be considered from last nights game are Lennon and McIntosh
It's not his fault who he lines up against....
Why should that count against him?
Title: Re: Two things that couldn't be clearer heading into round 1
Post by: 🏅Dooks on March 11, 2017, 06:04:16 PM
1. Don't play Houli
2. Don't play BEllis

Bit harsh
50 possessions between them

Of stuffing course you'd chime in with that :lol :lol

Short should come in for him. Played that role last year much better than Houli. Additionally, Rublabla and others have claimed he played a very good game last night. Not sure what you base his poor game on but I don't really care if you based Ellis' and Houli's game on their number of touches

Short played on a top up VFL player last night
No 88 by memory
Only players that would be considered from last nights game are Lennon and McIntosh

Bolton.
Title: Re: Two things that couldn't be clearer heading into round 1
Post by: Jackstar 1960 on March 11, 2017, 06:20:23 PM
They won't play Bolton round 1
BUT he will play this year and will star
Title: Re: Two things that couldn't be clearer heading into round 1
Post by: WilliamPowell on March 11, 2017, 09:21:02 PM
1. Don't play Houli
2. Don't play BEllis

Bit harsh
50 possessions between them

It's not about quantity, it s about quality

Staggering they played Houli. Hasn't played all preseason why didn't he come back via the VFL? Should not play round 1. He was very poor. Clearly underdone, so he was a liability. Our back half in the frost quarter were terrible. The positive signs showed in the first 2 weeks with the way they had gelled together was non existent in first 20 minutes. Damage done, game effectively over.

Ellis was better today BUT he played alot on Maine. That contest was about butter (ellis) versus margarine  (Maine), think peole shoud be able to follow me here
Title: Re: Two things that couldn't be clearer heading into round 1
Post by: Go Richo 12 on March 11, 2017, 09:25:37 PM
1. Don't play Houli
2. Don't play BEllis

Bit harsh
50 possessions between them

It's not about quantity, it s about quality

Staggering they played Houli. Hasn't played all preseason why didn't he come back via the VFL? Should not play round 1. He was very poor. Clearly underdone, so he was a liability. Our back half in the frost quarter were terrible. The positive signs showed in the first 2 weeks with the way they had gelled together was non existent in first 20 minutes. Damage done, game effectively over.

Ellis was better today BUT he played alot on Maine. That contest was about butter (ellis) versus margarine  (Maine), think peole shoud be able to follow me here
I haven't seen the game yet but how much of our performance can be put down to not wanting to show our cards before round 2, WP?
Title: Re: Two things that couldn't be clearer heading into round 1
Post by: WilliamPowell on March 11, 2017, 09:37:55 PM

I haven't seen the game yet but how much of our performance can be put down to not wanting to show our cards before round 2, WP?

Funny we were talking about that at 3 qtr time.

And my view is very simple.

I still think we are a very mentally fragile (some will say weak) side. I don't think we can afford to be playing games with our intent

First 2 weeks the things that's been the most pleasing has been the pressure across the ground and sticking to it.

We didn't do that in the first qtr and the result of that was certain players went back into bad habits.

Just don't think we are good enough to be flaunting with our form, even in practice games
Title: Re: Two things that couldn't be clearer heading into round 1
Post by: Go Richo 12 on March 11, 2017, 10:07:36 PM

I haven't seen the game yet but how much of our performance can be put down to not wanting to show our cards before round 2, WP?

Funny we were talking about that at 3 qtr time.

And my view is very simple.

I still think we are a very mentally fragile (some will say weak) side. I don't think we can afford to be playing games with our intent

First 2 weeks the things that's been the most pleasing has been the pressure across the ground and sticking to it.

We didn't do that in the first qtr and the result of that was certain players went back into bad habits.

Just don't think we are good enough to be flaunting with our form, even in practice games
I agree with you on those points.

What scares me though is that to drop our pressure across the ground and being so far behind at 1/4 time against a club of similar standing is what happen when we do it against GWS, WB, Syd etc.
Title: Re: Two things that couldn't be clearer heading into round 1
Post by: Chuck17 on March 11, 2017, 10:10:13 PM

I still think we are a very mentally fragile (some will say weak) side. I don't think we can afford to be playing games with our intent


Others would say week
Title: Re: Two things that couldn't be clearer heading into round 1
Post by: Ruanaidh on March 12, 2017, 06:29:24 AM
Houli will be out next week for McIntosh - problem solved. Don't write off Bolton first round either, he is made for the 'G'.....But the more likely scenario is Cellis for Stengle.
Title: Re: Two things that couldn't be clearer heading into round 1
Post by: MintOnLamb on March 12, 2017, 06:31:39 AM

I haven't seen the game yet but how much of our performance can be put down to not wanting to show our cards before round 2, WP?

Funny we were talking about that at 3 qtr time.

And my view is very simple.

I still think we are a very mentally fragile (some will say weak) side. I don't think we can afford to be playing games with our intent

First 2 weeks the things that's been the most pleasing has been the pressure across the ground and sticking to it.

We didn't do that in the first qtr and the result of that was certain players went back into bad habits.

Just don't think we are good enough to be flaunting with our form, even in practice games
WP, agree.
Our intent, endeavour and desire should be the same every game.
I wish we were tough, unrelenting and meciless to our opposition.
Instead we are indecisive, weak and cannot even put a team away when leading by seemingly unlosable margins.

From early observations i think there has been no noticeable shift in our attitude.



Title: Re: Two things that couldn't be clearer heading into round 1
Post by: Ruanaidh on March 12, 2017, 06:43:06 AM
Can anyone tell me the make-up of the selection panel. Is Balme on it?
Title: Re: Two things that couldn't be clearer heading into round 1
Post by: Owl on March 12, 2017, 09:08:54 PM
They won't play Bolton round 1
BUT he will play this year and will star
Bolton will be better than some of our strap on's
Title: Re: Two things that couldn't be clearer heading into round 1
Post by: YellowandBlackBlood on March 12, 2017, 09:11:47 PM
Can anyone tell me the make-up of the selection panel. Is Balme on it?
Pretty sure Balme is on it. Hardwick and the other coaches would make up the rest.
Title: Re: Two things that couldn't be clearer heading into round 1
Post by: Yeahright on March 12, 2017, 10:03:37 PM
Can anyone tell me the make-up of the selection panel. Is Balme on it?

I too am interested in a definitive answer to this
Title: Re: Two things that couldn't be clearer heading into round 1
Post by: Ruanaidh on March 12, 2017, 10:47:34 PM
I think we all want Balmy on it......At least I do😀
Title: Re: Two things that couldn't be clearer heading into round 1
Post by: Tigeritis™©® on March 13, 2017, 12:35:39 AM
Two things..

1. We are still soft.
2. Hardwick is still a liar that can't coach.
Title: Re: Two things that couldn't be clearer heading into round 1
Post by: yellowandback on March 13, 2017, 08:02:34 AM
1. Don't play Houli
2. Don't play BEllis

Bit harsh
50 possessions between them

It's not about quantity, it s about quality

Staggering they played Houli. Hasn't played all preseason why didn't he come back via the VFL? Should not play round 1. He was very poor. Clearly underdone, so he was a liability. Our back half in the frost quarter were terrible. The positive signs showed in the first 2 weeks with the way they had gelled together was non existent in first 20 minutes. Damage done, game effectively over.

Ellis was better today BUT he played alot on Maine. That contest was about butter (ellis) versus margarine  (Maine), think peole shoud be able to follow me here

The selection of Houli should not surprise anyone. They still feel obligated to pick after he left Essendon for the Tigers all those years ago :wallywink
Ellis on Mayne isn't the fault of the player, it's the fault of the coaching panel who were stupid enough to put a midfielder on a key position player.