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Title: I don't rate Menadue
Post by: Yeahright on March 22, 2017, 12:05:05 AM
Love his attributes but not sure he's got the mentality to translate that on the field. Hasn't shown any of his "speed" in the AFL.
Title: Re: I don't rate Menadue
Post by: Ruanaidh on March 22, 2017, 06:35:06 AM
As I stated once before expect him to go to the dogs at the end of this contract. Until and after then he will be a half decent VFL player and that will be his limit imo.
Blakely was ripe for the picking and we made another 2nd round blunder.
Title: Re: I don't rate Menadue
Post by: tony_montana on March 22, 2017, 08:15:21 AM
I rate him and reckon he'll play 12-15 games this season
Title: Re: I don't rate Menadue
Post by: 🏅Dooks on March 22, 2017, 09:50:57 AM
Is a great lovely kick. I expect him to adapt to senior level footy and do reasonably well. Hopefully.  But needs more time.
Title: Re: I don't rate Menadue
Post by: big tone on March 22, 2017, 01:11:05 PM
I like the kid but it seems people are going past him at a rate of nots.
The one thing he does have is elite pace which will keep him around for a few years to come but he needs to start adding other parts to his game otherwise he will be left behind.

Grigg has a wing at the moment but Menadue needs to make that his. He needs to find more of the footy to start with.

Hopefully with a more attacking game style that will suit him.
I'd like to think he could get to the level of Isaac Smith from Hawthorn. He runs up and down the wing all day with genuine speed and I hope Menadue can do the same.
Title: Re: I don't rate Menadue
Post by: Hard Roar Tiger on March 22, 2017, 02:15:59 PM
Great post BT, you're on fire ATM.
Opportunity + Application = improved output.
In theory, his attributes should be above Griggs.
Title: Re: I don't rate Menadue
Post by: Andyy on March 22, 2017, 05:13:47 PM
Seriously the kid is a role player. B-grade max. Can only expect so much.

Would play him ahead of the likes of Hunt, Grigg etc.
Title: Re: I don't rate Menadue
Post by: the claw on March 22, 2017, 07:11:53 PM
People need to remember this kid was 20kg below ideal weight when drafted. Hes had two yrs and he suffered big time from that lack of size he still looks skinny but he is getting there.The bigger he gets the more confidence he will gain and his ability to compete will improve.
I liked this pick at the time because of the pace run and skills nice height just lacked a lot of size.He was not who i wanted was adamant we needed the big inside mid in Blakeley.

In fact first two rounds i wanted one of Durdin, Lever or Goddard and i leant toward Durdin but would have been happy with any of them. Second round well was all over Blakeley.
Was keen on Oscar Mcdonald with the next and was over the moon we actually took a tall with our next in McKenzie.
Title: Re: I don't rate Menadue
Post by: The Machine on March 22, 2017, 07:18:32 PM
I like to kid a lot :thumbsup
Title: Re: I don't rate Menadue
Post by: 🏅Dooks on March 22, 2017, 07:23:34 PM
People need to remember this kid was 20kg below ideal weight when drafted. Hes had two yrs and he suffered big time from that lack of size he still looks skinny but he is getting there.The bigger he gets the more confidence he will gain and his ability to compete will improve.
I liked this pick at the time because of the pace run and skills nice height just lacked a lot of size.He was not who i wanted was adamant we needed the big inside mid in Blakeley.

In fact first two rounds i wanted one of Durdin, Lever or Goddard and i leant toward Durdin but would have been happy with any of them. Second round well was all over Blakeley.
Was keen on Oscar Mcdonald with the next and was over the moon we actually took a tall with our next in McKenzie.

I i cant argue with that
Title: Re: I don't rate Menadue
Post by: MintOnLamb on March 22, 2017, 09:08:57 PM
People need to remember this kid was 20kg below ideal weight when drafted. Hes had two yrs and he suffered big time from that lack of size he still looks skinny but he is getting there.The bigger he gets the more confidence he will gain and his ability to compete will improve.
I liked this pick at the time because of the pace run and skills nice height just lacked a lot of size.He was not who i wanted was adamant we needed the big inside mid in Blakeley.

In fact first two rounds i wanted one of Durdin, Lever or Goddard and i leant toward Durdin but would have been happy with any of them. Second round well was all over Blakeley.
Was keen on Oscar Mcdonald with the next and was over the moon we actually took a tall with our next in McKenzie.

I i cant argue with that
How are Durdin and Lever going?
Title: Re: I don't rate Menadue
Post by: Knighter on March 22, 2017, 09:47:12 PM
Clearly Dimwit doesn't rate him either.....or Short.....or Chol.....or Markov.....or Miles. If your a second rate recycled hack though we'll that's right up his alley
Title: Re: I don't rate Menadue
Post by: DCrane on March 22, 2017, 09:55:39 PM
Clearly Dimwit doesn't rate him either.....or Short.....or Chol.....or Markov.....or Miles. If your a second rate recycled hack though we'll that's right up his alley

Or C Ellis or Lennom
It's like we are flat out refusing to develop our own talent
Title: Re: I don't rate Menadue
Post by: Hard Roar Tiger on March 22, 2017, 09:56:54 PM
Clearly Dimwit doesn't rate him either.....or Short.....or Chol.....or Markov.....or Miles. If your a second rate recycled hack though we'll that's right up his alley

Or C Ellis or Lennom
It's like we are flat out refusing to develop our own talent

Rinse and repeat from last year.
Title: Re: I don't rate Menadue
Post by: Chuck17 on March 22, 2017, 09:57:39 PM
Hmmm apart from Rioli who was given games not on form
Title: Re: I don't rate Menadue
Post by: Chuck17 on March 22, 2017, 09:58:20 PM
Clearly Dimwit doesn't rate him either.....or Short.....or Chol.....or Markov.....or Miles. If your a second rate recycled hack though we'll that's right up his alley

Or C Ellis or Lennom
It's like we are flat out refusing to develop our own talent

Rinse and repeat from last year.

Ain't that the truth complete with bitching and moaning
Title: Re: I don't rate Menadue
Post by: tdy on March 22, 2017, 10:51:55 PM
C Ellis played half last year until he was injured. He badly needs to get better but he is signed until 2018.
Title: Re: I don't rate Menadue
Post by: the claw on March 23, 2017, 11:23:14 AM
People need to remember this kid was 20kg below ideal weight when drafted. Hes had two yrs and he suffered big time from that lack of size he still looks skinny but he is getting there.The bigger he gets the more confidence he will gain and his ability to compete will improve.
I liked this pick at the time because of the pace run and skills nice height just lacked a lot of size.He was not who i wanted was adamant we needed the big inside mid in Blakeley.

In fact first two rounds i wanted one of Durdin, Lever or Goddard and i leant toward Durdin but would have been happy with any of them. Second round well was all over Blakeley.
Was keen on Oscar Mcdonald with the next and was over the moon we actually took a tall with our next in McKenzie.

I i cant argue with that
How are Durdin and Lever going?
Lever has been great and looks a quality long term defender,
Durdin has had a lot of injury issues and struggled to get on the park. Got a clear run at it about half way thru last yr and slowly built his game.Should play senior footy this yr injuries permitting.
He has been developed as a kpf at nm but i have always thought he should play in defense.Injuries or not Durdin was always going to be a long term prospect.

Goddard has played a handful of games for the saints only one last yr. What ive seen of him at the level he looks a real prospect faily confident that in time he will become their regular F/B.

We are talking talls here who have only been around for two yrs Lever has done exceptionally well and the other two injuries aside are probably tracking along nicely.
Title: Re: I don't rate Menadue
Post by: Chuck17 on April 17, 2017, 05:20:31 PM
Bump i think the always right man is right again
Title: Re: I don't rate Menadue
Post by: mat073 on April 17, 2017, 05:34:01 PM
Yeah Nah
Title: Re: I don't rate Menadue
Post by: Yeahright on April 18, 2017, 03:53:43 PM
Bump i think the always right man is right again

Tried to cut him some slack and pump his tyres before the game. Thought a faster game plan might suit him...
Title: Re: I don't rate Menadue
Post by: Diocletian on April 18, 2017, 03:57:54 PM
Yep -thought under the new gameplan we'd at least get to finally see him demonstrate that much touted pace of his....(https://imgfast.net/users/3115/50/25/04/smiles/4083453662.gif)

...still waiting....(https://imgfast.net/users/3115/50/25/04/smiles/3849830529.gif)
Title: Re: I don't rate Menadue
Post by: 🏅Dooks on April 18, 2017, 05:50:53 PM
Ill defend him.

Only 20 games to his name. Still very very young.

Kicking is sublime. Needs to be given games over the next year and a half to develop confidence (ahead of your recycled hack types) to take the game on.

Imagine him streaming through the middle at top speed and nailing almost every inside 50. Thats why you play him.

Title: Re: I don't rate Menadue
Post by: YellowandBlackBlood on April 18, 2017, 06:08:12 PM
Ill defend him.

Only 20 games to his name. Still very very young.

Kicking is sublime. Needs to be given games over the next year and a half to develop confidence (ahead of your recycled hack types) to take the game on.

Imagine him streaming through the middle at top speed and nailing almost every inside 50. Thats why you play him.
:clapping
Title: Re: I don't rate Menadue
Post by: Diocletian on April 18, 2017, 06:30:40 PM
At the moment all we can do is imagine his "top speed".....
Title: Re: I don't rate Menadue
Post by: 🏅Dooks on April 18, 2017, 06:38:57 PM
At the moment all we can do is imagine his "top speed".....

Nah, atm you can experience 29 yo Griggs 'top speed' and 9 ironing 31 x loose disposals into our F50.
Title: Re: I don't rate Menadue
Post by: Yeahright on April 18, 2017, 08:00:17 PM

Imagine him streaming through the middle at top speed and nailing almost every inside 50. Thats why you play him.

I used to but unfortuantly he hasn't shown even a glimpse of his pace. May have only played 20 games but you'd want to see a glimpse of what they could possibly bring to the table like we've seen from kids like Mrakov, Rioli, Butler and Chol. Give me Menadue over your Hunt and Morris types though
Title: Re: I don't rate Menadue
Post by: tony_montana on April 18, 2017, 08:02:44 PM
I don't know why people are building him up as some sort of super speed machine, he's covers the ground well and is probably quick but certainly not Butler, Constanza or Rioli quick.
Title: Re: I don't rate Menadue
Post by: The Machine on April 18, 2017, 09:31:53 PM
Menadue plays every week for mine. Played well first half but faded when played down back in the second half...similar to McIntosh. I have seen him play many games at VFL level and he has speed, plenty of it. Good young player.