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Football => Richmond Rant => Topic started by: taztiger4 on May 04, 2017, 09:09:24 PM
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http://websites.sportstg.com/round_info.cgi?a=SELECT&fixture=124787106&c=1-118-0-436949-0&pool=1
Antony Forato,Ryan Bathie,Tyson Kruse & BJ Credlin all playing first game for the year
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No Ivan ?
Injured back again ?
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Probably picking the Soldo's up from the airport ;D
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FOOTSCRAY v. RICHMOND
Round 4 - 06/05/2017
3:30pm
Etihad Stadium
Richmond's VFL squad
B: 42. R. Garthwaite, 53. H. Beasley, 11. J. Batchelor
HB: 37. C. Menadue, 51. S. Darley, 38. S. Morris
C: 64. T. Silvestro, 54. J. Ballard, 29. S. Bolton
HF: 27. S. Lloyd, 44. T. Stengle, 7. B. Lennon
F: 55. R. Bathie, 41. M. Chol, 36. C. Moore
R: 80. A. Forato, 57. B. Wood, 28. T. Hunt
Int: 67. B. Credlin, 74. T. Kruse, 58. J. Aarts, 61. J. Fletcher, 78. D. Coffield, 72. Z. McCubbin, 52. A. Scott, 69. S. Mannagh
23P: 77. M. O'Sullivan
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In: R. Bathie, M. O'Sullivan, T. Kruse, B. Credlin, Z. McCubbin, J. Fletcher, S. Mannagh, A. Scott, A. Forato, S. Morris
Out: I. Maric, J. Townsend, A. Miles, J. Holden, I. Soldo, C. Ellis
http://websites.sportstg.com/assoc_page.cgi?client=1-118-0-437831-0&sID=325269&&news_task=DETAIL&articleID=55115655
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SQUAD UPDATE: Credlin, Forato and Mannagh are the only exclusions. Zak McCubbin takes the emergency role.
Stengle gets us on the board first but the Dogs equalise striaght away.
Rich 6
Foot 6
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The ball breaks kindly in our forward 50, and Ryan Bathie crumbs for his first of the year!
RICH 12
FOOT 6
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Another one! Lennon with a classy finish on the run to put us two goals up :gotigers.
RICH 18
FOOT 6
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Looks like we're ON today.
Lennon has one more! Three goals in quick succession sees us 18 points up early.
RICH 24
FOOT 6
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LLOYD! Sam takes a one-handed mark from Aart's delivery and slots it home!
RICH 30
FOOT 6
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Heroic defence from the Tiger stops a sure fire Doggies response!
https://twitter.com/RichmondVFL
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20 mins gone Q1.
Rich 5.1-31
Foot 1.2-8
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Shai with a brilliant leap and composed set shot! :gotigers
Our lead is out to 30.
RICH 6.2-38
FOOT 1.2-8
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Quarter time
Richmond 7.3-45
Footscray 1.6-12
GOALS: Lennon 2, Bolton, O'Sullivan, Stengle, Lloyd, Bathie.
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2nd qtr underway.
45 - 19
6 mins
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Good to see Lennon, Lloyd Bolton and Stengle consistently being amongst it
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STENGLE! The perfect response as Tyson crumbs in the square and slots it home.
A needed one after the first two goals of the qtr to the Dogs.
RICH 8.4-52
FOOT 3.7-25
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Dogs get it back straight away.
And then another. They have all the momentum :P.
Rich 8.4-52
Foot 5.7-37
18 mins Q2
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It's been all Dogs this qtr. Back to just 8 pts :-\.
52 - 44
23 mins Q2
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HT: The Dogs came back strong in that quarter. Huge second half awaits the boys.
Half-time
Richmond 7.3 8.6-54
Footscray 1.6 6.9-45
GOALS: Lennon 2, Stengle 2, Bolton, O'Sullivan, Lloyd, Bathie.
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DISPOSALS:
Menadue 18,
Morris 14,
Darley 13,
Bolton 12,
Ballard 11,
Lennon 11.
https://twitter.com/RichmondVFL/with_replies
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Dogs kick the first of the 3rd to get within less than a kick but ...
YES! Lennon finds Bathie in an empty goal square, and we register a much needed major .
RICH 9.7-61
FOOT 7.9-51
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BATHIE AGAIN! Three goals for him and we're up by 16! :gotigers
RICH 67
FOOT 51
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A defensive turnover leads to back to back goals for the Dogs. Back to just three points :-\.
Rich 10.8-68
Foot 9.11-65
19 mins Q3
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Massive from Shai! He gets pulled down in a tackle but still gets boot to ball for his second! :gotigers
RICH 11.8-74
FOOT 9.11-65
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Bathie again! Four for Ryan after he converts Lloyd's expert pass! :gotigers
RICH 12.8-80
FOOT 9.12-66
25 mins Q3
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A closely fought quarter has us up by two goals. Come on boys, a big final term needed!
3/4 time
Richmond 7.3 8.6 12.8-80
Footscray 1.6 6.9 9.14-68
GOALS: Bathie 4, Lennon 2, Stengle 2, Bolton 2, O'Sullivan, Lloyd.
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Final qtr underway.
What a run-down by Shai! From that free kick Lennon ends up 30 out on a tight angle but can't find the target.
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Garthwaite doing a great job on Crameri so far. Two impressive tackles already in this quarter!
https://twitter.com/RichmondVFL
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First goal of the last to the Dogs.
Rich 12.8-80
Foot 10.15-75
8 mins Q4
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Redpath with his 5th puts the Dogs in front for the first time today :P.
Rich 80
Foot 81
10 mins Q4
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Another to the Dogs. We need a goal desperately :help. They've kicked 11.9 to 5.5 since 1/4 time.
Rich 80
Foot 87
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Thank you Callum.
Yes! Right when we need it Callum Moore steps up and pulls one back :gotigers.
RICH 13.8-86
FOOT 12.15-87
14 mins Q4
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We give away 50 after a late, high hit and gift the Dogs a goal.
Rich 86
Foot 93
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LLOYD! Sam brings it back to one point with a classy set shot from 40 out! GO TIGES! :gotigers
RICH 14.8-92
FOOT 13.15-93
17 mins Q4
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LENNON GOALS! We retake the lead by 5 points! :gotigers
Rich 15.8-98
Foot 13.15-93
20 mins Q4
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MAXY O'SULLIVAN YOU STAR! He soccers home his second and we're up by 11! :gotigers
RICH 16.8-104
FOOT 13.15-93
22 mins Q4
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showing some real spirit!
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26 mins gone.
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Goal to Dogs. A goal the difference.
Rich 16.9-105
Foot 14.15-99
28 mins Q4
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Stuff me sideways, it's not going to be a draw?
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Point to Dogs.
Rich 16.9-105
Foot 14.16-100
30 mins Q4
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Goal to Dogs :banghead
Rich 16.9-105
Foot 15.16-106
31 mins Q4
:banghead
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And another to them :banghead
Rich 105
Foot 112
32 mins Q4
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Stengle goals! One point the difference, this clearance all important... :gotigers
RICH 17.9-111
FOOT 16.16-112
33 mins Q4
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Goal to the Dogs to seal it. Siren!
Lost by 7 pts.
:banghead
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we always lose the close ones against those bogans
good effort though to bounce ack from last weeks debacle
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Final Score
Richmond 7.3 8.6 12.8 17.9-111
Footscray 1.6 6.9 9.14 17.16-118
GOALS: Bathie 4, Lennon 3, Stengle 3, Bolton 2, Lloyd 2, O'Sullivan 2, Moore.
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Lead by 11 at the 28 min mark and then conceded 4 goals :huh. Didn't we put an extra man or two behind the ball?
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If Miles was in we wouldve won - thanks dimma >:(
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DISPOSALS:
Ballard 24,
Menadue 24,
Darley 24,
Lennon 23,
Bolton 21,
Lloyd 20.
https://twitter.com/RichmondVFL
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Talk about a game that was won , then lost , then won again , then eventually lost again .
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VFL Tigers fall short in pulsating affair with Bulldogs
Lou Gillett
afl.com.au
6 May 2017
The VFL Tigers suffered a heartbreaking loss to Footscray on Saturday evening, going down by 7 points to the reigning premiers at Etihad Stadium.
In a much-awaited curtain-raiser to Richmond’s AFL clash with the Western Bulldogs, the Tigers got out to a 33-point lead at the first break, but were unable to hold on against the fast-finishing Bulldogs.
Ryan Bathie was a standout performer in his first game of VFL football for 2017 with four goals, while Tyson Stengle and Ben Lennon also impressed with three goals each.
Jacob Ballard, Sam Darley and Connor Menadue were the most effective with ball in hand, each gathering 24 disposals.
Youngster Shai Bolton was another key performer, with 21 disposals and two goals playing through both the midfield and forward line.
The first quarter went exactly to plan for Craig McRae’s side, scoring seven goals to establish a strong lead.
Lennon nailed two in quick succession, while Bolton’s tackling and nuisance-value was rewarded with a well taken goal from 25 metres out.
Bathie nailed his first of the year with a clever piece of crumbing, before a stunning one-handed mark and goal from Sam Lloyd had the crowd on their feet.
However, the 2016 VFL premiers soon rose to the challenge in the second term, and by the main break were well and truly back in the contest.
Despite the best efforts of Hugh Beasley and Daniel Coffield in the backline, Footscray’s Jack Redpath was in inspired form on his return to competitive football, kicking two of his eventual five goals in the second term
Steven Morris, playing a mix of midfield and defence, was proving to be a menace in the centre, gathering 14 disposals and three clearances as the VFL Tigers tried to stem the flow of Footscray’s attacking pressure.
He was well deputised by the hard-working Connor Mendaue, who managed to poll 18 disposals and seven marks while still providing plenty of his trademark gut-running.
With a spot in the VFL’s top four on the line, Footscray came out firing early in the third term, but Bathie imposed himself again with a huge ten-minute stretch.
After picking off a Lennon pass and firing home for his second, Bathie twice found himself in a vacant goal square, taking his tally for the day to four and getting the lead out to 16 points.
A defensive error shortly after led to Mitch Wallis reducing the lead for the Bulldogs, and eventually the margin at the final change stalled at an even two goals.
Unfortunately, in a frenetic final quarter, it proved to be a disappointing result for the travellers, as the Bulldogs eventually scrapped their way to a seven-point lead by the final siren.
After getting out to a seven-point lead with three quick goals, the Bulldogs’ plans to seal the match were hampered by Callum Moore, who took a trademark flying mark and kicked truly to reduce the deficit to a single point.
It was then Lloyd’s turn again to add a touch of class to the match, slotting home from 40 out after another Bulldogs’ goal to keep his side in touching distance.
Two quick fire goals to Lennon and Max O’Sullivan then had the VFL Tigers leading by 11 points in a pulsating goal-for-goal affair.
Ryan Garthwaite was doing his part in keeping Bulldogs star Stewart Crameri quiet, with two of his four tackles coming in key battles with the former Essendon forward.
However, quick gaols to Bailey Dale and Lukas Webb saw the lead snatched back, and while a late Stengle goal gave the Tigers some hope, a Redpath goal on the siren proved to be the nail in the coffin for a thrilling encounter against two of the league’s best.
The VFL Tigers will look to bounce back next Sunday when they face the undefeated Box Hill Hawks at Box Hill City Oval at 12pm.
RICHMOND 17.9 111 def. by FOOTSCRAY 17.16 118
Goals - Bathie 4, Lennon 3, Stengle 3, Bolton 2, Lloyd 2, O'Sullivan 2, Moore.
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2017-05-06/vfl-round-4-match-report
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Very promising to see Bolton get so much of his hands on the footy.
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Bolton & Stengle are guns....Lennon can play and anyone who says he can't seriously has NFI....VFL is Menadue 's level, Ballard is better than half our AFL listed midfield...
Is it just me or does our VFL side always give away stupid 50's in the last quarter of close matches?
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Bolton & Stengle are guns....Lennon can play and anyone who says he can't seriously has NFI....VFL is Menadue 's level, Ballard is better than half our AFL listed midfield...
Is it just me or does our VFL side always give away stupid 50's in the last quarter of close matches?
Lennon has footy ability. It's his attitude that's the issue.
It won't just happen for him in the big league without the hard work. He's lazy and the fact that he's still not a regular senior player is a testament to this.
I agree with you about Bolton and Stengle.
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He should be played in the guts more for a start....
Should also add I liked the look of Moore....Chol still miles off it....Aliir Aliir he ain't...hell, he's barely even Majak Daw yet...
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I think Lennon has turned the corner this season and the penny has dropped regarding work rate. Has worked hard in every game at both levels, intensity has gone up a notch, would like to see him get an extended run at it sooner rather than later.
Agree about menadue and throw C Ellis into the mix or at th very least use this season and next preseason to get him in tip top physical shape for next year bc right now he is way off it physically
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Agree with TM re: Lennons work rate. Was finally applying good pressure as a forward this year and created a lot of contests which is supposedly enough for some people.
So what's holding Stengle back (apart from being a rookie)? Can't say I've seen much of him but I did like the look of him in video when we drafted him and now subsequently in the VFL, looks like a natural footballer.
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FOOTSCRAY v. RICHMOND
Round 4 - 06/05/2017
3:30pm
Etihad Stadium
Richmond's VFL squad
B: 42. R. Garthwaite, 53. H. Beasley, 11. J. Batchelor
HB: 37. C. Menadue, 51. S. Darley, 38. S. Morris
C: 64. T. Silvestro, 54. J. Ballard, 29. S. Bolton
HF: 27. S. Lloyd, 44. T. Stengle, 7. B. Lennon
F: 55. R. Bathie, 41. M. Chol, 36. C. Moore
R: 80. A. Forato, 57. B. Wood, 28. T. Hunt
Int: 67. B. Credlin, 74. T. Kruse, 58. J. Aarts, 61. J. Fletcher, 78. D. Coffield, 72. Z. McCubbin, 52. A. Scott, 69. S. Mannagh
23P: 77. M. O'Sullivan
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In: R. Bathie, M. O'Sullivan, T. Kruse, B. Credlin, Z. McCubbin, J. Fletcher, S. Mannagh, A. Scott, A. Forato, S. Morris
Out: I. Maric, J. Townsend, A. Miles, J. Holden, I. Soldo, C. Ellis
http://websites.sportstg.com/assoc_page.cgi?client=1-118-0-437831-0&sID=325269&&news_task=DETAIL&articleID=55115655
Does anyone think the following players are still AFL standard/capable of helping us become a top 4 side, and should be still at the club next year?
Morris
Batchelor
Maric
Hunt
Hampson
Townsend
Add to that group
Griffiths (extremely doubtful)
and we could have a pretty decent clean out at years end which is long overdue.
Most should already be gone imo as when you look through our seconds side there isn't enough kids to get excited about.
Anyone else I have missed?
Thoughts?
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No to all of the above - except for maybe Townsend purely as a hitman/enforcer/sacrificial lamb who comes in occasionaly & specifically to take blokes out and generally cause trouble...but even then I'm still heavily leaning towards another big fat NO.
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Then take a look at the Western Bulldogs list- they basically have all kids in their twos side. If their middle to older age guys aren't in their best 22, they just don't keep them. Maybe Tom Campbell is the exception.
I think we tend to look for insurance by keeping our older guys rather than back the recruiters in to pick kids to come in if need be and contribute from an early age.
Imo it's a numbers game, get as many kids in as possible and keep turning them over if you dont see anything you can work with long term.
We simply hold onto guys like Batchelor, Morris, Maric too long. Or draft other clubs discards in the hope they come good.
We have too many guys that even at their best, aren't in our best 22.
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You can add Drummond to that list of probably gone at the end of the year.
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Richmond VFL coach, Craig McRae's summary of the AFL and VFL-listed players from Saturday’s Round 4 VFL match against Footscray.
AFL LISTED PLAYERS
Connor Menadue
24 disposals, 10 marks, two clearances.
Came back from AFL and played above the level. He showed that he’s spreading hard from the contest and being used on the outside. He’s ready for AFL football if the opportunity presents.
Ben Lennon
23 disposals, six marks, two tackles, three goals.
Played as a mid-forward. It was a game where he had some really strong moments for us.
Shai Bolton
21 disposals, five marks, three tackles, two goals.
Played his best game for the club so far. Played well as a forward getting up the ground. Had a great output for a small forward.
Sam Lloyd
20 disposals, two marks, 11 tackles, two goals.
Played mostly forward and midfield at times. Kicked goals for us in crucial stages, and his tackle count is a testament to his work on the inside.
Steven Morris
19 disposals, three clearances, three tackles, two marks.
Came back from AFL duties and played off half-back. He was really well organised behind the ball, set us up well, and provided a strong contest as we expected.
Jake Batchelor
15 disposals, six marks, three tackles, five spoils.
Played across half-back. Very hard to play on at the moment and ready for AFL opportunity if it presents.
Callum Moore
12 disposals, five marks, one clearance, one goal.
Played as a key forward. Showed plenty of hard running, and proved to have real scope as an AFL forward. Kicked a critical goal late in the game.
Mabior Chol
11 disposals, 10 hitouts, one clearance, two tackles.
Played in the ruck. Played little to no time in the forward line this week, which is good for his development.
Taylor Hunt
Nine disposals, three marks, one spoil, two inside 50s.
Played a half, as he was a carry-over player for AFL duties. Really missed him in the second half.
Tyson Stengle
Seven disposals, three tackles, three goals.
Had good opposition in Shane Biggs, and finished the game with three goals, showing he’s hard to keep down for the whole game.
Ryan Garthwaite
Five disposals, three marks, four tackles, two spoils.
Unfortunately didn’t have his best game, having played on some AFL forwards such as Jake red path and Stewart Crameri.
VFL LISTED PLAYERS
Jacob Ballard
24 disposals, three marks, four clearances, one tackle.
Jacob had another solid game for us. His contest has been really strong, and he put in some enormous courageous acts. Led from the front with his disposal count.
Sam Darley
24 disposals, 21 kicks, six marks, five inside 50s.
Another strong game. His rebound 50s show that he’s playing his role for us and playing to his strengths.
Brandon Wood
17 disposals, three clearances, one mark, one tackle.
Played to his strengths with his clearance work. He’s using the ball really well for us at the moment.
Jake Aarts
15 disposals, nine contested possessions four marks, four tackles.
Played as a small forward and sometimes as a midfielder. Played his role well, and is another player who keeps turning up, putting pressure on and leading from the front.
Daniel Coffield
15 disposals, four marks, two tackles, two spoils.
Has become a very solid player for us down back. His intercepts marks are a real feature, and he’s certainly playing above the level. Played his role extremely well.
Ryan Bathie
14 disposals, five marks, two clearances, four goals.
Played his first game of the season, coming in as a ruck/forward. It was terrific to see him play to his strengths, kicking four goals and performing well in the ruck. A great performance from Bath.
Anthony Scott
14 disposals, two marks, one clearance, one tackle.
Also came in for his first game this year. Played on the wing, and it look’s like he’s capable of playing at the level. Needs to show his strengths a little bit more, but still had a good disposal count.
Max O’Sullivan
13 disposals, one mark, two clearances, two goals.
Played his second game for the year, and kicked two smart goals. He’s a very clever player, and looks more and more settled at the level every time he plays.
Thomas Silvestro
12 disposals, five clearances, two tackles, one mark.
Played as an inside midfielder and on the wing. Pleasing to see him get good clearance numbers on the day. A tough competitor and a key role player for us.
Hugh Beasley
10 disposals, one marks, four tackles, four spoils.
Played as a key defender. Very hard to play on, and is a key post in our backline.
James Fletcher
Eight disposals, one mark, one clearance, four tackles.
Came back into the side after being out since round one. Played wing and midfield. Showed lots of hard running, but was a little quieter in terms of displaying his strengths. At the moment, he’s a valuable contributor with his role.
Tyson Kruse
Five disposals, five tackles, two spoils, two inside 50s.
Was performing his role well, until unfortunately injuring his quad.
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2017-05-09/the-vfl-report-round-4
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Steven Morris[/b]
19 disposals, three clearances, three tackles, two marks.
Came back from AFL duties and played off half-back. He was really well organised behind the ball, set us up well, and provided a strong contest as we expected.
Wonder what those duties are
Jake Batchelor
15 disposals, six marks, three tackles, five spoils.
Played across half-back. Very hard to play on at the moment and ready for AFL opportunity if it presents.
:clapping
More than likely we wouldn't have lost last week if the B-man was in the side
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Steven Morris[/b]
19 disposals, three clearances, three tackles, two marks.
Came back from AFL duties and played off half-back. He was really well organised behind the ball, set us up well, and provided a strong contest as we expected.
Wonder what those duties are
Jake Batchelor
15 disposals, six marks, three tackles, five spoils.
Played across half-back. Very hard to play on at the moment and ready for AFL opportunity if it presents.
:clapping
More than likely we wouldn't have lost last week if the B-man was in the side
Quality bloke is Batch. Deserves a go. :thumbsup
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Would like to see Ballard upgraded to the senior list at seasons end. I reckon he has the goods.
Played with my bro as a jr and was absolutely class is a good standard of jr competition.
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Would like to see Ballard upgraded to the senior list at seasons end. I reckon he has the goods.
Played with my bro as a jr and was absolutely class is a good standard of jr competition.
we would have to draft him, he is only on our VFL list,
BTW I have been saying we should rookie him for 12 months now, missed all 2016 pre season due to some "issues" but is a beast now he is fit
Daniel Coffield ( no 78) is another I would at least rookie
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Steven Morris[/b]
19 disposals, three clearances, three tackles, two marks.
Came back from AFL duties and played off half-back. He was really well organised behind the ball, set us up well, and provided a strong contest as we expected.
Wonder what those duties are
Jake Batchelor
15 disposals, six marks, three tackles, five spoils.
Played across half-back. Very hard to play on at the moment and ready for AFL opportunity if it presents.
:clapping
More than likely we wouldn't have lost last week if the B-man was in the side
Quality bloke is Batch. Deserves a go. :thumbsup
As I've always said, once you've had Batch, you'll never look back
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Batch needs another run at it to see whether or not we get rid of him
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Would like to see Ballard upgraded to the senior list at seasons end. I reckon he has the goods.
Played with my bro as a jr and was absolutely class is a good standard of jr competition.
we would have to draft him, he is only on our VFL list,
BTW I have been saying we should rookie him for 12 months now, missed all 2016 pre season due to some "issues" but is a beast now he is fit
Daniel Coffield ( no 78) is another I would at least rookie
... :thumbsup
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Was saying that about Ballard all last year....would be an upgrade on Townsend at the absolute very least....