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Football => Richmond Rant => Topic started by: one-eyed on May 27, 2017, 11:44:33 PM
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No injuries tonight.
Dimma said Butler will be back next week.
Fire away with your changes, if any?
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Lloyd Out Butler or Lennon In
Maybe Chol for Elton
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Out Elton
In Lennon
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Out: Castagna, Elton
In: Butler/Stengle (maybe even drop Lloyd to accomodate both) Chol.
I realise this requires upgrades from the rookie list- so be it.
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It's Soldo's turn so him for Elton
Butler for Castanga
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Out:
Castanga
Elton
In:
Butler
Chol - We need the other tall for structure but Elton is clearly not the answer. Chol is raw but lets play him.
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Out:
Castanga
Elton
In:
Butler
Chol - We need the other tall for structure but Elton is clearly not the answer. Chol is raw but lets play him.
Agreed with this. Castagna really gives me the poos, gets in great positions but just too often makes the wrong decisions, I hope he can rectify this coz If he can he would easily be the best of the small forwards in terms of output anyway.
And Elton should be gone by seasons end so may as well start blooding the youth instead of waiting 6 years to find out like we have with Elton. Geez we are in trouble with key position players :banghead
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INS: Butler, Lennon
OUTS: Lloyd, Elton
No point playing 2nd tall as the one we have out there is simply non competitive
Sad when Grigg at 6ft 2" offers more in the ruck than a bloke that is 6ft 6" or more
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Elevate Chol.
Even a guy who is underdeveloped and not ready will at least improve given games. Elton has had his chances. Sorry Todd, but I've seen enough.
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Elevate Chol.
Even a guy who is underdeveloped and not ready will at least improve given games. Elton has had his chances. Sorry Todd, but I've seen enough.
Do you reckon he struggled?
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Elevate Chol.
Even a guy who is underdeveloped and not ready will at least improve given games. Elton has had his chances. Sorry Todd, but I've seen enough.
How m
Any times have you seen Chol play at
VFL LEVEL?
He appears disinterested and shows little desire to chase defensively from what I have seen.
Is he ready?
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Elevate Chol.
Even a guy who is underdeveloped and not ready will at least improve given games. Elton has had his chances. Sorry Todd, but I've seen enough.
How m
Any times have you seen Chol play at
VFL LEVEL?
He appears disinterested and shows little desire to chase defensively from what I have seen.
Is he ready?
No he isn't ready in my opinion either...but, we really have nothing to lose.
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I think elton is improving, astbury is also improving, would rather keep playing them,
I am concerned that we will burn Nanks out, would like to see him rotated during games so we really need a viable ruck option.
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Where is Hampson at? He's on holidays with him family every 2nd week. Surely Hamma as a decoy 2nd tall or even Maric is better than the experiments of Elton, Soldo and Chol..
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I think elton is improving, astbury is also improving, would rather keep playing them,
I am concerned that we will burn Nanks out, would like to see him rotated during games so we really need a viable ruck option.
Yeah I agree he is improving a bit. He doesnt look as slow to react as he did in his first few games, starting to get the pace of the game and did look a cut above VFL standard last week, whereas prior to this season he looked average at best in the VFL. He gives us more consistency of effort than Soldo does.
5 more mins a qtr in the ruck is sufficient to give nank a chop out.
Chol has the explosiveness and athleticism to be a weapon now, but his problem is he plods for 95% game time and is high octane for 5%. Really frustrating seeing him literally walking when the contest is 5-7metres away. I dont know what it is, is it lack of aerobic capacity? is it laziness? but the development coaches should be reading him the riot act and flogging him on the track to get that fitness up.
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In: Butler, Lennon, Chol(elevated)
Out: Castagna, Lloyd, Elton
Where is Hampson at? He's on holidays with him family every 2nd week. Surely Hamma as a decoy 2nd tall or even Maric is better than the experiments of Elton, Soldo and Chol..
yeah...nah....
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Surely Hamma as a decoy 2nd tall is better than the experiments of Elton, Soldo and Chol..
(http://i2.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/247/730/680.gif)
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In: Butler, Lennon, Chol(elevated)
Out: Castagna, Lloyd, Elton
Where is Hampson at? He's on holidays with him family every 2nd week. Surely Hamma as a decoy 2nd tall or even Maric is better than the experiments of Elton, Soldo and Chol..
yeah...nah....
What he said.
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I've been "pro" Elton this year early, as I thought he really gave us a target in the middle 3rd of the ground but last night I thought he looked tired or disinterested.
I doubt Chol is the answer right now but we cannot keep having games where we have players that barely touch the footy.
I'd like to potentially see Astbury go forward for a few weeks to play CHF as his marking at the moment has really improved and I think he could give us that second target up there.
And I'd bring in Garthwaite to play that 3rd tall defender. Between him and McIntosh they could handle that roll.
And hopefully Vlastuin comes back soon too.
So a backline of
Garthwaite Rance Vlastuin
McIntosh Grimes Short
I'm also looking forward to seeing Bulter come back in as I think he brings something different to Rioli and George in our forwardline.
There is no reason why we cannot rotate our small forwards (Rioli,George, Bolton, Butler and even Stengle) in and out of the side on form. We need to create a healthy competition for spots in our side.
I would also like to see Jack start from the goal square. He played on an inexperienced player last night and should have been isolated with him deep.
Imo we should always start someone from the goal square whether it be Jack, Dusty, Cotch or Caddy. If we get a quick clearance we have basically our best "one on one" players one out 10 meters from goal. I really don't get having all our forwards standing within 20 metres of each other after a goal or at the start of quarters.
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The Tigers have an extra day to prepare than North Melbourne when they clash at Etihad Stadium on Saturday night. Whether Dan Butler (groin) or Nick Vlastuin (shoulder) are available will depend on fitness tests later this week.
Source: The Australian website (http://www.theaustralian.com.au/sport/afl/when-the-coach-doesnt-know-the-rules-what-hope-for-players/news-story/bf3ab1d44e37a02d07663b7009474722)
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I wonder if butler will have some of that zip back after a rest. Vlastuin could be a big in too
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Heard Vlas wont play till after the bye
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The Barometer - Round 11
Herald-Sun
29 May 2017
RICHMOND
ON THE BLOCK: No injuries to report from Saturday night and it’s hard to see any changes to a winning line-up. Todd Elton had just five disposals but kicked his first goal of the season and Jason Castagna is looking a bit tired.
ON THE CUSP: Anthony Miles had 35 disposals, Ben Lennon kicked three goals against a close-checking Marty Gleeson and Jake Batchelor won the award for best on ground in a strong VFL win. But the highlight was an amazing goal from the boundary by Mabior Chol — could Damien Hardwick gamble on him as Jack Riewoldt’s sidekick?
AL PATON’S FORECAST: Despite dominating the territory battle it looked like the Tigers would find another way to lose thanks to a series of misses including Riewoldt shanking two set shots from inside 25m. But in the end he, skipper Trent Cotchin and Toby Nankervis stood up when it mattered to deliver a vital win. Next up is the Roos, a team Damien Hardwick has beaten only twice in 10 attempts. Going into its bye at 7-4 would be massive
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/more-news/afl-injury-list-whos-hot-and-whos-hurt-at-your-club-after-round-10/news-story/698b200214ccea449ef39af2174d6dce
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Where is Hampson at? He's on holidays with him family every 2nd week. Surely Hamma as a decoy 2nd tall or even Maric is better than the experiments of Elton, Soldo and Chol..
Where he at? A long distance from playing and thank bloody Geez.
Absolute spud
(https://68.media.tumblr.com/cfc2250b20e68dceb5557fe834f0edec/tumblr_inline_opuxtm072T1qb6nhw_540.gif)
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Surely Hamma as a decoy 2nd tall is better than the experiments of Elton, Soldo and Chol..
(http://i2.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/247/730/680.gif)
LOLLOLOLOLOLOLOL
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would like to see a fwd set up like this.
Rioli - Riewoldt - Edwards/castagna.
Chol - Elton - Butler.
Cant see any reason why we cannot play three tall fwds and put the small quicks at their feet.besides Jack is a good mover and Chol is quick and agile.
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The fwd set up has to change in fact id say the overall structure needs to change.
We had 71 entries to 42 yet we kicked just 11 goals to 10. Bombing it in to a fwd line full of smalls is dumb and fair dinkum it is not working.
People may disagree but playing 10 smalls most weeks is not the way fwd.the smalls output as a collective is poor most weeks. trouble is the output of others is poor as well.
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In the mix: Who's pushing for selection in round 11?
Nathan Schmook
afl.com.au
31 May 2017
RICHMOND
Half-forward Ben Lennon has booted three goals in each of his past two games and was strongly considered for the Dreamtime clash. If the Tigers make changes for Saturday's match against North Melbourne, it is likely to be in attack, where Lennon can bring an aerial presence that has been lacking in recent weeks.
Small forward Dan Butler is also in line to return after missing two matches with groin soreness.
Jason Castagna (three goals in five games) could be due for a rest, with Sam Lloyd (one goal against the Bombers) the other forward vulnerable at selection.
Midfielder Anthony Miles racked up 35 possessions in the VFL but will find it hard to break in, while defender Jake Batchelor was named best on ground in the Tigers' state league win.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2017-05-30/in-the-mix-whos-pushing-for-selection-in-round-11
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The fwd set up has to change in fact id say the overall structure needs to change.
We had 71 entries to 42 yet we kicked just 11 goals to 10. Bombing it in to a fwd line full of smalls is dumb and fair dinkum it is not working.
People may disagree but playing 10 smalls most weeks is not the way fwd.the smalls output as a collective is poor most weeks. trouble is the output of others is poor as well.
I still maintain that if dumbfuck players stop missing the goals they should be kicking ie from 15-30 directly in front we'd be 5-6 goals a week better off and we wouldnt be talking about this. Its not as if the misses are low percentage shots from the boundary or blind snaps out of packs, they are legitimate easy set shots directly in front that should be goals 9 times out of 10. Give me this style of play over our previous style of hugging the boundary and kicking to the pockets every day of the week. There is nothing wrong with our entries, its the easy misses that are killing us.
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The fwd set up has to change in fact id say the overall structure needs to change.
We had 71 entries to 42 yet we kicked just 11 goals to 10. Bombing it in to a fwd line full of smalls is dumb and fair dinkum it is not working.
People may disagree but playing 10 smalls most weeks is not the way fwd.the smalls output as a collective is poor most weeks. trouble is the output of others is poor as well.
Disagree
Dogs did the same in last years GF
Our game plan is based on squeezing the play and to keep it inside F50 until we get a goal
Just a 10% improvement in set shots will rectify a lot
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The fwd set up has to change in fact id say the overall structure needs to change.
We had 71 entries to 42 yet we kicked just 11 goals to 10. Bombing it in to a fwd line full of smalls is dumb and fair dinkum it is not working.
People may disagree but playing 10 smalls most weeks is not the way fwd.the smalls output as a collective is poor most weeks. trouble is the output of others is poor as well.
Tall poo is still poo. The fact you want to keep Elton in the side purely for some height proves that no matter how tall you are, the player still has to kick some stuffing goals and contribute for the forward line to be effective. He has kicked 1 goal in 6 games and allowed Hurley to have a field day against us despite all this height.
How much better forward we have looked this year compared to last year when we tried to play Jack, Griff and Vickery + Hampson also proves my point. If we had some decent height in the VFL then maybe I'd concede you have a point...
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time for George to have a rest for butler...
Elton for the person sitting in the back row with only half a arm and weights 200kilos would give us more then what he offers just a joke he gets a game and shows our lack high quality tall men...
nank will have work cut out against goldstien so we need another avenue but were it comes from who knows
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I think we need to use this week and the bye to give Prestia a break. I'd bring in Miles for him.
Agree with those saying George needs a rest, but I reckon old Lloyd needs to pull his socks up, and I'd probably drop him first. Would love to see Stengle come in for either of them.
I'd drop Elton and bring in Kate Sheahan (who, when looking at her photo on the RFC website reminds me of Dougal from the Magic Roundabout). We wouldn't lose anything here.
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The Tigers appear likely to recall small forward Dan Butler after two matches sidelined with groin soreness, with Hardwick declaring: "He was in good form before he went out … if he can add to the side we'll play him".
Hardwick said the match committee had a number of selection headaches, with the absence of an in-form tall forward to support Jack Riewoldt an ongoing issue.
The coach said half-forward Ben Lennon and midfielders Anthony Miles and Jacob Townsend were others in the selection frame this week.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2017-06-01/has-nank-got-the-tank-to-beat-goldstein
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NO Townsend SURELY you freaken dipstick
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I think we need to use this week and the bye to give Prestia a break. I'd bring in Miles for him.
Agree with those saying George needs a rest, but I reckon old Lloyd needs to pull his socks up, and I'd probably drop him first. Would love to see Stengle come in for either of them.
I'd drop Elton and bring in Kate Sheahan (who, when looking at her photo on the RFC website reminds me of Dougal from the Magic Roundabout). We wouldn't lose anything here.
I'm 99% sure Kate Sheahan isn't on our list so she cannot come in for Elton. To be honest I don't even think she is a rookie but happy to be proven wrong.