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Title: Richmond - 3rd most inaccurate at goalkicking & 5th worst at set shots (H-Sun)
Post by: one-eyed on June 01, 2017, 05:30:28 PM
OVERALL ACCURACY IN 2017

1. Adelaide Crows — 184.106 (44 complete misses) — 55.1%

2. Geelong Cats — 160.94 (39) — 54.6%

3. Melbourne — 149.90 (38) — 53.8%

4. Hawthorn — 119.86 (22) — 52.4%

5. West Coast Eagles — 133.93 (28) — 52.4%

6. Gold Coast Suns — 122.83 (32) — 51.5%

7. Sydney Swans — 133.89 (38) — 51.2%

8. Port Adelaide — 143.107 (31) — 50.9%

9. Carlton — 107.66 (39) — 50.5%

10. Brisbane Lions — 115.76 (38) — 50.2%

11. Essendon — 135.85 (50) — 50.0%

12. North Melbourne — 142.100 (44) — 49.7%

13. GWS Giants — 147.105 (45) — 49.5%

14. Fremantle — 111.85 (34) — 48.3%

15. St Kilda — 126.110 (28) — 47.7%

16. Richmond — 126.103 (51) — 45.0%

17. Collingwood — 121.113 (41) — 44.0%

18. Western Bulldogs — 123.118 (53) — 41.8%



SET SHOTS IN 2017

1. Geelong Cats — 87.36 (13 misses) — 64.0%

2. GWS Giants — 74.37 (12) — 60.2%

3. Essendon — 69.39 (10) — 58.5%

4. Gold Coast Suns — 64.35 (12) — 57.7%

5. Adelaide Crows — 93.56 (13) — 57.4%

6. Melbourne — 74.46 (12) — 56.1%

7. Brisbane Lions — 55.30 (14) — 55.6%

8. Port Adelaide — 68.46 (9) — 55.3%

9. Hawthorn — 60.42 (7) — 55.0%

10. Sydney Swans — 66.43 (14) — 53.7%

11. North Melbourne — 81.55 (19) — 52.3%

12. West Coast Eagles — 67.51 (12) — 51.5%

13. Carlton — 54.31 (20) — 51.4%

14. Richmond — 65.49 (16) — 50.0%

15. St Kilda — 58.53 (7) — 49.2%

16. Fremantle — 55.43 (14) — 49.1%

17. Western Bulldogs — 62.55 (22) — 44.6%

18. Collingwood — 55.58 (11) — 44.4%

Source: Champion Data.

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/more-news/afl-club-goalkicking-western-bulldogs-goalkicking-costing-it-but-geelong-adelaide-lead-afl/news-story/6257c12eb7606461754b45e7cb7d98fe
Title: Re: Richmond - 3rd most inaccurate at goalkicking & 5th worst at set shots (H-Sun)
Post by: TigerLand on June 01, 2017, 06:22:13 PM
This along with 1 goal from any tall forwards other than Jack for the entire season is a very concerning statistic. Especially with Jack getting some 'yips' the last few games.
Title: Re: Richmond - 3rd most inaccurate at goalkicking & 5th worst at set shots (H-Sun)
Post by: Dougeytherichmondfan on June 01, 2017, 07:24:02 PM
This along with 1 goal from any tall forwards other than Jack for the entire season is a very concerning statistic. Especially with Jack getting some 'yips' the last few games.
Conversely, how good would we be if we had Ty Vickery still playing for us???  :rollin
Title: Re: Richmond - 3rd most inaccurate at goalkicking & 5th worst at set shots (H-Sun)
Post by: Slipper on June 01, 2017, 08:53:59 PM
Given our lack of height at the moment, I'd almost be happy to have Vickery still out there.
Title: Re: Richmond - 3rd most inaccurate at goalkicking & 5th worst at set shots (H-Sun)
Post by: Gracie on June 02, 2017, 09:20:31 AM
Just goes to show you that no matter how bad you think things are there is always someone worse off.
Title: Re: Richmond - 3rd most inaccurate at goalkicking & 5th worst at set shots (H-Sun)
Post by: Dougeytherichmondfan on June 03, 2017, 08:48:19 PM
Coming back to bight us tonight. Should be 4-5 goals up.
Title: Re: Richmond - 3rd most inaccurate at goalkicking & 5th worst at set shots (H-Sun)
Post by: mightytiges on June 17, 2017, 05:07:48 PM
Yet again we got burnt by our poor goalkicking. More scoring shots yet lose  :banghead.

We've kicked more behinds than goals in now our last 4 matches.
GWS  10.15 (after bring 6.1)
Ess    11.15
NM     14.17
Syd    10.11 (after being 5.2)

Then add 10.10 vs Freo after being 5.1 at half-time.



Title: Re: Richmond - 3rd most inaccurate at goalkicking & 5th worst at set shots (H-Sun)
Post by: georgies31 on June 17, 2017, 05:55:33 PM
You would think it is being worked on don't see any improvements.
Title: Re: Richmond - 3rd most inaccurate at goalkicking & 5th worst at set shots (H-Sun)
Post by: mightytiges on June 25, 2017, 04:31:15 PM
Another day and another display of pathetic goalkicking.
Title: Re: Richmond - 3rd most inaccurate at goalkicking & 5th worst at set shots (H-Sun)
Post by: The Machine on June 25, 2017, 04:39:39 PM
Another day and another display of pathetic goalkicking.


Yep - not good enough :banghead
Title: Re: Richmond - 3rd most inaccurate at goalkicking & 5th worst at set shots (H-Sun)
Post by: tony_montana on June 25, 2017, 05:32:11 PM
Terrible

Shocking
Disgraceful
Title: Re: Richmond - 3rd most inaccurate at goalkicking & 5th worst at set shots (H-Sun)
Post by: mightytiges on June 25, 2017, 06:10:51 PM
A major major issue now that needs addressing a.s.a.p.

Updated:

We've kicked more behinds than goals in now our last 4 5 matches.

GWS  10.15 (after bring 6.1)
Ess    11.15
NM     14.17
Syd    10.11 (after being 5.2)
Carl    11.18

Then add 10.10 vs Freo after being 5.1 at half-time.
Title: Re: Richmond - 3rd most inaccurate at goalkicking & 5th worst at set shots (H-Sun)
Post by: georgies31 on June 25, 2017, 07:26:49 PM
How bad is our kicking at goal 18 behinds should have been a  goal win.Cost in games already and we seem not to be rectifying it.
Title: Re: Richmond - 3rd most inaccurate at goalkicking & 5th worst at set shots (H-Sun)
Post by: one-eyed on July 02, 2017, 04:11:14 AM
Last night showed what a massive difference it makes when you kick straight.


The Power kicked 3.7 from set-shots to Richmond's 7.1 and it would prove the decisive statistic.

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2017-07-02/its-fair-to-call-port-pretenders-says-hinkley
Title: Re: Richmond - 3rd most inaccurate at goalkicking & 5th worst at set shots (H-Sun)
Post by: mightytiges on July 16, 2017, 03:55:27 PM
Bump.

Our goalkicking especially from set shots as pathetic as ever today. It's killing us big time in terms. Amateur hour!
Title: Re: Richmond - 3rd most inaccurate at goalkicking & 5th worst at set shots (H-Sun)
Post by: mat073 on July 16, 2017, 04:32:26 PM
Pathetic.

Edwards is a terrible set shot. Ditto George.

Jack Riewoldt - missed so many "easy" goals this year.

Prestia and Caddy are both ordinary too.

Bad kicking has cost us wins this year ( Sydney/GWS )

Perhaps we will finally kick straight in a final when it counts .
 
Title: Re: Richmond - 3rd most inaccurate at goalkicking & 5th worst at set shots (H-Sun)
Post by: The Machine on July 16, 2017, 04:34:48 PM
Pathetic.

Edwards is a terrible set shot. Ditto George.

Jack Riewoldt - missed so many "easy" goals this year.

Prestia and Caddy are both ordinary too.

Bad kicking has cost us wins this year ( Sydney/GWS )

Perhaps we will finally kick straight in a final when it counts .

As far as set shots go George is the worst i have ever seen :lol Plays his role however if only he could kick he would be electric
Title: Re: Richmond - 3rd most inaccurate at goalkicking & 5th worst at set shots (H-Sun)
Post by: dwaino on July 16, 2017, 06:56:04 PM
Despite any other failings our goal kicking is the reason we are not on top of the ladder.
Title: Re: Richmond - 3rd most inaccurate at goalkicking & 5th worst at set shots (H-Sun)
Post by: mat073 on July 16, 2017, 07:26:02 PM
Was hoping for a docker victory today - never seen "the better team " lose by 5 goals . Atrocious kicking today by Fremantle. 

Suddenly I don't feel as bad .
Title: Re: Richmond - 3rd most inaccurate at goalkicking & 5th worst at set shots (H-Sun)
Post by: big tone on July 16, 2017, 09:49:49 PM
Our goal kicking again today was horrible.

But what gets me is in the first quarter when Edwards takes a mark 40 out from goal only to kick it sideways to a player not even 10 metres away. He must be so not confident of kicking that goal.
He and most others should be choc full of confidence after a week of goal kicking on the track. I understand if you miss a few early and lose confidence but to start with none is f$&king ridiculous.

We have so many poor set shot goal kickers. George, Caddy, Edwards, Prestia, McIntosh, Grigg.
Title: Re: Richmond - 3rd most inaccurate at goalkicking & 5th worst at set shots (H-Sun)
Post by: YellowandBlackBlood on July 16, 2017, 09:52:11 PM
McIntosh? You may as well include Rance and Grimes in the list too! :lol
Title: Re: Richmond - 3rd most inaccurate at goalkicking & 5th worst at set shots (H-Sun)
Post by: Diocletian on July 16, 2017, 10:59:22 PM
Despite any other failings our goal kicking is the reason we are not on top of the ladder.

Well yeah maybe kinda sorta...
Title: Re: Richmond - 3rd most inaccurate at goalkicking & 5th worst at set shots (H-Sun)
Post by: Lozza on July 17, 2017, 06:45:50 AM
I would say that Cotch and Dusty aren't exactly experts at goal kicking either. Can't recall Dusty nailing a set shot on an angle and Cotch has missed very simple shots. Our best shots for goal probably are Jack and Lennon although Jack has had the yips, missed an easy one early yesterday.
Title: Re: Richmond - 3rd most inaccurate at goalkicking & 5th worst at set shots (H-Sun)
Post by: Willy on July 17, 2017, 09:23:20 AM
Cotch has been good from set shots this year I reckon. Much improved from last couple of years.
Title: Re: Richmond - 3rd most inaccurate at goalkicking & 5th worst at set shots (H-Sun)
Post by: dwaino on July 17, 2017, 10:21:54 AM
Despite any other failings our goal kicking is the reason we are not on top of the ladder.

Well yeah maybe kinda sorta...

We flopped in the four close games which is an issue in itself but if we had kicked even a little bit straighter we go two games clear on top. That's how I see it anyway.
Title: Re: Richmond - 3rd most inaccurate at goalkicking & 5th worst at set shots (H-Sun)
Post by: one-eyed on July 17, 2017, 01:21:04 PM
Saw this in the paper this morning... ;) #kickthebloodygoal #gotiges
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DE46aVlVYAQ58UY.jpg)
https://twitter.com/Tigers_of_Old/status/886710641796333569

 ;D
Title: Re: Richmond - 3rd most inaccurate at goalkicking & 5th worst at set shots (H-Sun)
Post by: one-eyed on August 06, 2017, 12:51:02 PM
The stats, compiled by Champion Data, compared how players have kicked against the competition average and take into account where shots at goal are taken from, what type of kicks they were and the pressure the players were under.

St Kilda nail 5.5 per cent fewer shots than they should – ranked second-last in that category (with Richmond 18th).

Champion Data has also ranked every club based on its average expected score compared to its actual score.

On that measure, St Kilda is ranked 17th. Again, only Richmond has been more wasteful.

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2017-08-06/inaccurate-saints-whos-the-worst-offender
Title: Re: Richmond - 3rd most inaccurate at goalkicking & 5th worst at set shots (H-Sun)
Post by: Diocletian on August 06, 2017, 12:52:53 PM
That's be that "X-Factor" Castagna brings.... :shh
Title: Re: Richmond - 3rd most inaccurate at goalkicking & 5th worst at set shots (H-Sun)
Post by: Chuck17 on August 06, 2017, 06:56:53 PM
I think we will start improving on that stat if Caddy can get three every week from a meter out
Title: Re: Richmond - 3rd most inaccurate at goalkicking & 5th worst at set shots (H-Sun)
Post by: 🏅Dooks on August 06, 2017, 07:25:22 PM
I think we will start improving on that stat if Caddy can get three every week from a meter out

1.3?
Title: Re: Richmond - 3rd most inaccurate at goalkicking & 5th worst at set shots (H-Sun)
Post by: tony_montana on August 06, 2017, 09:13:19 PM
Just cant get over how much we butcher easy goals. Counted about 5 today that youd mark down as certain sodas, add a couple of cheapies the hawks got and im still scratching my head as to how we only won by 5 goals and not 12
Title: Re: Richmond - 3rd most inaccurate at goalkicking & 5th worst at set shots (H-Sun)
Post by: dwaino on August 06, 2017, 09:20:49 PM
Just cant get over how much we butcher easy goals. Counted about 5 today that youd mark down as certain sodas, add a couple of cheapies the hawks got and im still scratching my head as to how we only won by 5 goals and not 12

Another >100 score gone begging. We can bang on about certain players, selection committee, the head coach, anything else, but the most minimal improvement in front of goals and we go two games on top of the ladder. Come finals we can't afford to let any team have a sniff, no good having the best defence if we can't put teams away on the scoreboard. This feels like a very unsettled season/era of footy coming off dominant periods of a few clubs like Hawthorn and if we take our chances properly there is no reason we can't snatch the whole thing this year like the Dogs did last year. Who knows if the league will settle next season and we aren't in the same position as we are now. I'll spew if it comes down to losing it because our players suck at the most basic and fundamental skill of our game.
Title: Re: Richmond - 3rd most inaccurate at goalkicking & 5th worst at set shots (H-Sun)
Post by: mightytiges on August 12, 2017, 05:24:50 PM
Jack missed 3 gettable chances after nailing his first early in the game.

Houli's two missed sitters from 20 out, both after 50m penalties, were momentum killers :facepalm.

You can get away with missing set shots and stuffing up good chances against bottom sides (last week) but not against top sides.
Title: Re: Richmond - 3rd most inaccurate at goalkicking & 5th worst at set shots (H-Sun)
Post by: The Machine on August 12, 2017, 06:56:05 PM
Jack missed 3 gettable chances after nailing his first early in the game.

Houli's two missed sitters from 20 out, both after 50m penalties, were momentum killers :facepalm.

You can get away with missing set shots and stuffing up good chances against bottom sides (last week) but not against top sides.

Its simply not good enough. You could tell Houli was going to miss his first 2 shots...playing around pretending his left hand was slippery  :banghead Concentrate and kick the bloody ball straight!
Title: Re: Richmond - 3rd most inaccurate at goalkicking & 5th worst at set shots (H-Sun)
Post by: Diocletian on August 12, 2017, 07:40:18 PM
Don't worry.....some clearly very astute experts have informed me that Big Guy Levi will rectify the situation....... :shh
Title: Re: Richmond - 3rd most inaccurate at goalkicking & 5th worst at set shots (H-Sun)
Post by: Barry Oh on August 12, 2017, 07:55:38 PM
In round 1 next year we'll kick 19 8 122.
Because its the start of the season that boosts membership sales.
Title: Re: Richmond - 3rd most inaccurate at goalkicking & 5th worst at set shots (H-Sun)
Post by: big tone on August 12, 2017, 08:22:00 PM
Don't worry.....some clearly very astute experts have informed me that Big Guy Levi will rectify the situation....... :shh
If Big Guy Levi played for us today we would have won that game. Blind Freddy can see we need a contested marking beast at CHF.
Henderson killed us today with his intercept marking.

Anyway agree to disagree on him but I'd take him in a heartbeat especially for nothing.
Title: Re: Richmond - 3rd most inaccurate at goalkicking & 5th worst at set shots (H-Sun)
Post by: 🏅Dooks on August 12, 2017, 08:34:23 PM
Don't worry.....some clearly very astute experts have informed me that Big Guy Levi will rectify the situation....... :shh
If Big Guy Levi played for us today we would have won that game. Blind Freddy can see we need a contested marking beast at CHF.
Henderson killed us today with his intercept marking.

Anyway agree to disagree on him but I'd take him in a heartbeat especially for nothing.

Yep well said. Especially when you consider he would replace Soldo.
Title: Re: Richmond - 3rd most inaccurate at goalkicking & 5th worst at set shots (H-Sun)
Post by: The Machine on August 12, 2017, 09:03:34 PM
Don't worry.....some clearly very astute experts have informed me that Big Guy Levi will rectify the situation....... :shh
If Big Guy Levi played for us today we would have won that game. Blind Freddy can see we need a contested marking beast at CHF.
Henderson killed us today with his intercept marking.

Anyway agree to disagree on him but I'd take him in a heartbeat especially for nothing.


We need him or similar that's for sure. Something for our smalls to feed off as they can't be the down the line target.
Title: Re: Richmond - 3rd most inaccurate at goalkicking & 5th worst at set shots (H-Sun)
Post by: mightytiges on August 20, 2017, 07:31:30 PM
I hope the boys finally realised today how much easier it is to win when you kick straight (25.5). Typically this year, 30 scoring shots would result in 12.15 + 3 OOTF and only a grinded out 30 point win.
Title: Bankers or shankers?: Your club's best and worst set shots (afl site)
Post by: one-eyed on August 23, 2017, 01:51:12 PM
Bankers or shankers?: The best and worst set shots

Nathan Schmook
afl.com.au
23 August 2017


WE'VE heard it time and again - kicking for goal is the one skill that hasn't improved in football over many seasons. But some players are far more reliable sharpshooters than others.

Here are the best and worst at your club when lining up in front of the big sticks.

RICHMOND

Best: Dustin Martin (18 shots, 11 goals, six behinds, one miss, 61 per cent)
A key tactic for the Tigers this season has been isolating Martin deep forward, where he can monster his opponents one-on-one in dangerous positions. As a result, he has taken 22 marks inside 50 (more than all top-20 ball-winners bar Patrick Dangerfield) and found himself in positions where he can capitalise. Then there is his pure skill with the footy in his hands.

Worst: Shane Edwards (13 shots, four goals, seven behinds, two misses, 31 per cent)
Playing on a wing and at half-forward, Edwards hasn't been taking set shots in high-percentage areas this season. He most notably kicked 0.3 against GWS in round 18, including one set shot from 40m and another from 50m on the boundary. He hasn't been rotated deep forward like other midfielders at Punt Road Oval.

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2017-08-23/bankers-or-shankers-your-clubs-best-and-worst-set-shots