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Football => Richmond Rant => Topic started by: one-eyed on July 08, 2017, 11:34:37 PM
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A couple of potential outs? Cotch's report (?) & Grimes' concussion/cheekbone(?).
Fire away ...
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If only we had a midfielder that was in the VFL who could win some contested football.... oh.
Lloyd, Butler, Rioli, Castagna are consistently our lowest ranked players. I can't see how 4 forwards being the lowest ranked can be successful long term. Some need a rest, I'd love to see Lennon get the chances Castagna has been given..
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If Halfstep's fair dinkum, Edwards & Prestia would be the first to go....but he'll probably just drop the kids instead...
Out: Prestia, Edwards, Hunt, Castsagna, Lloyd
In: Miles, Markov, Vlastuin(if fit) Graham (if not or Cotchin suspended), Bolton, Lennon (if fit) Moore/Gartwaite(if not)
I'd even prefer Townsend over Prestia at this point.
Last chance: Caddy, Rioli.
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I've defended Prestia most the season, but has to be dropped to send a message.
Miles in.
Bolton in for castagna. Castagnas kicking is just so frustrating, interested to see what the side looks like without him.
Vlastuin if ready for grimes if concussion.
One of Moore, garthwaite or Elton in for Lloyd. Preferably Moore or garthwaite but Elton could help nank who needs it.
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:lol
George's kicking was putrid last night but he is an easy target.
He kicked as many goals as Rioli had kicks. In fact Rioli didn't have a kick until the last quarter. :clapping
One is a first round draft pick the other a rookie but the facts are one is outperforming the other and we all know who that is.
Some talk about making a stand at selection but Rioli is by far our worst preformed player over the last 9 weeks.
But hey, let's drop the easy option!
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:lol
George's kicking was putrid last night but he is an easy target.
He kicked as many goals as Rioli had kicks. In fact Rioli didn't have a kick until the last quarter. :clapping
One is a first round draft pick the other a rookie but the facts are one is outperforming the other and we all know who that is.
Some talk about making a stand at selection but Rioli is by far our worst preformed player over the last 9 weeks.
But hey, let's drop the easy option!
Drop Rioli then I dont really care. Yes he definitely doesn't get enough of it, but when he does his disposal is usually good.
Castagnas disposals and decision making is not up to afl level and is momentum killing at times.
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:lol
George's kicking was putrid last night but he is an easy target.
He kicked as many goals as Rioli had kicks. In fact Rioli didn't have a kick until the last quarter. :clapping
One is a first round draft pick the other a rookie but the facts are one is outperforming the other and we all know who that is.
Some talk about making a stand at selection but Rioli is by far our worst preformed player over the last 9 weeks.
But hey, let's drop the easy option!
Drop Rioli then I dont really care. Yes he definitely doesn't get enough of it, but when he does his disposal is usually good.
Castagnas disposals and decision making is not up to afl level and is momentum killing at times.
He got 2 kicks in 100 minutes of footy for a first round pick in his 33 game. Should we expect more or is it ok because another player isn't a great kick??? Forgot George for a minute and just think about Rioli.
And that p1ssweak attempt to tackle when Jack Steven walked around him to kick a goal was pathetic.
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:lol
George's kicking was putrid last night but he is an easy target.
He kicked as many goals as Rioli had kicks. In fact Rioli didn't have a kick until the last quarter. :clapping
One is a first round draft pick the other a rookie but the facts are one is outperforming the other and we all know who that is.
Some talk about making a stand at selection but Rioli is by far our worst preformed player over the last 9 weeks.
But hey, let's drop the easy option!
Drop Rioli then I dont really care. Yes he definitely doesn't get enough of it, but when he does his disposal is usually good.
Castagnas disposals and decision making is not up to afl level and is momentum killing at times.
He got 2 kicks in 100 minutes of footy for a first round pick in his 33 game. Should we expect more or is it ok because another player isn't a great kick??? Forgot George for a minute and just think about Rioli.
And that p1ssweak attempt to tackle when Jack Steven walked around him to kick a goal was pathetic.
I said drop Rioli, I don't care. Yes he wasn't good enough, along with 20 other blokes. Rioli hasn't been good enough a few times but I think he will benefit in the long run from playing senior football but in terms of sending a message then yes, drop him.
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Miles in
Meatball out .
Rioi on notice
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Miles in
Meatball out .
Rioi on notice
I would have thought 9 odd weeks was enough notice.
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Miles in
Meatball out .
Rioi on notice
I would have thought 9 odd weeks was enough notice.
Love Castagnas endeavor but his finishing is a liability ATM. He is not on his own regarding this but it is hurting the team. We need good users of the ball all over the ground but sadly this is not evident in the forward half currently. Castagna, Prestia, Caddy, Lloyd, Jack, Edwards, Nankervis, Cotchin, Grigg are missing too many easy set shots. This must be fixed ASAP. In saying all that i would still play George for the rest of the year rotating with the other smalls.
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Out: Grimes (inj). Prestia, Hunt, Castagna, Caddy
In. Soldo, Miles, Bolton,.Graham, Vlastuin
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Out -
Grimes (inj)
Hunt
Butler
Prestia
Lloyd
In -
Vlastuin
Miles
Townsend
Bolton
Elton (purely structure only)
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Out: Grimes (inj). Lloyd, Hunt, Castagna, Rioli
In. Miles, Bolton, Vlastuin, Graham, Lennon if fit
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We need contested ball winners (Vlas, Miles and Townsend) and another tall which unfortunately means Elton at this stage. We need a better structure.
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Rioli must be rested or dropped.
He needs to reset.
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Miles for Prestia
Vlastuin for Hunt
Bolton for Rioli/Stengle
Elton for Lloyd
Give Graham another 2-3 weeks in the vfl to get match hardened and bring him in
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What I would do
Outs- Grigg, Rioli, Hunt, Lloyd, BEllis
Ins- Vlastuin, Miles, Marcov, Bolton, Elton
We cannot go into another game with only Grigg as our help for Nank. It was embarrassing last night.
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We need contested ball winners (Vlas, Miles and Townsend) and another tall which unfortunately means Elton at this stage. We need a better structure.
Then I'd go Maric, plonk him in the goal square
Can't go back to Elton, sadly no competitive
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Out: Grimes (inj). Lloyd, Hunt, Castagna, Rioli
In. Miles, Bolton, Vlastuin, Graham, Lennon if fit
Agree, I don't think Townsend will get another AFL game, mind you, I thought the same about Hunt.
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IN:
Vlastuin, Bolton, Elton, Miles
OUT:
Hunt, Castanga, Menadue, McIntosh
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We need contested ball winners (Vlas, Miles and Townsend) and another tall which unfortunately means Elton at this stage. We need a better structure.
Then I'd go Maric, plonk him in the goal square
Can't go back to Elton, sadly no competitive
Why not play Soldo in the ruck and plonk Nankervis fwd if that is the case.
If Grimes is fit would look to play one of Garthwaite or Moore as the genuine third tall option.If Grimes is injured play Garthwaite back but still go with Moore fwd.
Structure Would go like this
B: ##### - Astbury - Grimes/Garthwaite
HB: #### - Rance - #####
HF: #### - Riewoldt - #####
FF: #### - Nankervis - Moore/Garthwaite
R Soldo
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The Barometer - Round 17
Herald-Sun
10 July 2017
RICHMOND
ON THE BLOCK: A lot of credits which had been built up over recent weeks may be wiped out by Damien Hardwick given how insipid a number of his players were against the Saints. Taylor Hunt’s career at Punt Rd is over with his return to the senior side a forgettable one. Youngster Tyson Stengle didn’t have a great second game of his career while Connor Menadue also struggled. Dylan Grimes is in doubt after appearing to suffer a cheekbone injury following a late hit by St Kilda’s Tim Membrey.
ON THE CUSP: Nick Vlastuin was talked about last week by Hardwick and he would be the perfect replacement for Grimes. Shai Bolton was surprisingly left out in favour of Stengle but will definitely return. Oleg Markov was dropped for Hunt and will be in contention while it might be time to reward Anthony Miles’ excellent work in the VFL.
SCOTT GULLAN’S FORECAST: Richmond were horrible and smelt of a team believing their own publicity. Hardwick should turn over three or four just to send a message with Vlastuin, Bolton, Markov and Miles the likely inclusions.
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/more-news/afl-injury-list-whos-hot-and-whos-hurt-after-round-16/news-story/f3ee7332de3ff1a2cdf124ad2935b350
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:lol
George's kicking was putrid last night but he is an easy target.
It's every damn week and it's just not getting better. Oh and before you say something about Rioi, I think he should be dropped too. He's had his chances.
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We need contested ball winners (Vlas, Miles and Townsend) and another tall which unfortunately means Elton at this stage. We need a better structure.
Then I'd go Maric, plonk him in the goal square
Can't go back to Elton, sadly no competitive
Why not play Soldo in the ruck and plonk Nankervis fwd if that is the case.
If Grimes is fit would look to play one of Garthwaite or Moore as the genuine third tall option.If Grimes is injured play Garthwaite back but still go with Moore fwd.
Structure Would go like this
B: ##### - Astbury - Grimes/Garthwaite
HB: #### - Rance - #####
HF: #### - Riewoldt - #####
FF: #### - Nankervis - Moore/Garthwaite
R Soldo
I agree that Soldo could come in and Nankervis played out of the square to provide a target. We need a better structure so this could work. Bring in young Moore to play HFF as well. This would change our structure for the better and provide targets whilst helping Jack.
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:lol
George's kicking was putrid last night but he is an easy target.
It's every damn week and it's just not getting better. Oh and before you say something about Rioi, I think he should be dropped too. He's had his chances.
I reckon his kicking has gotten worse over the last few weeks. He is lacking in confidence. He just needs to work really hard at it as imo he has AFL qualities.
Rioli just needs a couple of weeks in the twos to get back some confidence too.
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If only we had a midfielder that was in the VFL who could win some contested football.... oh.
Lloyd, Butler, Rioli, Castagna are consistently our lowest ranked players. I can't see how 4 forwards being the lowest ranked can be successful long term. Some need a rest, I'd love to see Lennon get the chances Castagna has been given..
Both Miles and Townsend have been amongst the best players in the VFL over a number of weeks, as has Lennon.
One would have thought they had all done enough to deserve a game ahead of players like Edwards, Caddy, Lloyd, Rioli, Castagna and Butler.
Becoming a crowded field for the Shane Tuck medal this year.
Oh well with the relative success this year we will see Hardwick complete his final contract year in 2018.
With the situation normal (SNAFU) those players in the VFL will probably get delisted and that will solve that problem of players too good for VFL.
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Thought Nank looked really tired last week.
Id consider giving him a week off, play the two Ivan's with it being a send off for Maric.
When they aren't in the ruck they play fwd and focus on just creating a contest and bringing the ball to the ground.
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Yes we can rest important players "because it's only Brisbane".....which is probably what Essendon thought a fortnight ago at the same venue.... :shh
.....and why are we playing them at Etihad? stuffing AFL....
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Yes we can rest important players "because it's only Brisbane".....which is probably what Essendon thought a fortnight ago at the same venue.... :shh
.....and why are we playing them at Etihad? stuffing AFL....
weeks ago I looked ahead at the fixture and thought, crap this is a danger game against Brisbane. As we have a great record against them gabba/mcg and thought a match at Etihad might mark a bad omen.
After our loss to the saints last week though, if we lose this too well f uc.k.. Hand me the keys i'll drive the manure truck to punt rd myself and do a few wheelies on the oval too
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Nank had a rest after he got suspended.
Plus we have recently had the bye.
Shouldn't need a rest .
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Yes we can rest important players "because it's only Brisbane".....which is probably what Essendon thought a fortnight ago at the same venue.... :shh
.....and why are we playing them at Etihad? stuffing AFL....
weeks ago I looked ahead at the fixture and thought, crap this is a danger game against Brisbane. As we have a great record against them gabba/mcg and thought a match at Etihad might mark a bad omen.
After our loss to the saints last week though, if we lose this too well f uc.k.. Hand me the keys i'll drive the manure truck to punt rd myself and do a few wheelies on the oval too
lol going by the coaches comments about never winning big and never losing big, which has again been shown to be nonsense every game is a danger game.This is where we have got to after 8 whole freakin yrs under this charlatan.
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In the Mix - Eound 17
Nathan Schmook
afl.com.au
12 July 2017
While a small forward line has been exciting, the time might have come to bring a second tall in to support Jack Riewoldt.
Todd Elton was solid in his VFL return from a shoulder injury, taking eight marks and kicking two goals, and he appears to be the best option while Ben Griffiths returns from concussion through the VFL.
Nick Vlastuin is also available after another VFL hit-out and could be called on to fill a defensive role. After being beaten in clearances and contested possessions against St Kilda, the Tigers could finally turn to Anthony Miles, who was a held-over emergency in round 16 and has a good body of VFL form behind him.
Richmond has two in-form options in defence if they need to replace Dylan Grimes, with Nathan Broad (22 possessions and eight marks in the VFL) and Jake Batchelor (18 and six rebound 50s) pushing. Ben Lennon (hamstring) faces a fitness test after three weeks' sidelined.
www.afl.com.au/news/2017-07-11/in-the-mix-whos-in-the-selection-frame-for-round-17
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Definitely need Vlastuin and Miles to come in. Would drop Hunt and Prestia. If Grimes ruled out would bring in Broad. Would bring in Bolton and rest one of the other small forwards.
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Definitely need Vlastuin and Miles to come in. Would drop Hunt and Prestia. If Grimes ruled out would bring in Broad. Would bring in Bolton and rest one of the other small forwards.
Change Broad with Batch and I'm on board :clapping
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RICHMOND could swing the selection axe after its dismal effort against St Kilda, with Anthony Miles at the front of the queue after after weeks of brilliant VFL form.
Dylan Grimes faces a late fitness test after he was concussed by a flying Tim Membrey forearm. If he’s not passed fit, mature-age recruit Nathan Broad is in the frame to replace him.
Todd Elton will also come under strong consideration after taking eight marks in the VFL last weekend, while Ben Griffiths could make a long-awaited return to football.
“He needs to get through this week, but the signs are looking very promising at this stage,” footy manager Neil Balme said.
“We have taken a conservative approach with Ben, given his history with concussion, and his welfare has always been paramount. The club’s medical staff have done a great job managing him.”
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/teams/collingwood/who-will-be-in-and-out-when-afl-teams-are-named-for-round-17/news-story/5e860b1cf3eb24add690246d6c3d3b53
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Would love to see Broad in. Even if grimes plays he can go through the midfield and at 192cm can provide a second tall option in the fwd line.
Really looking fwd to Graham getting a game too.
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Would love to see Broad in. Even if grimes plays he can go through the midfield and at 192cm can provide a second tall option in the fwd line.
Really looking fwd to Graham getting a game too.
Has Broad played as a mid in his 2 years at the Tigers? Looks like he is at least fighting for another contract and is looking good. I will keep an eye on him this week in the VFL if he doesnt get a call up.
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Would love to see Broad in. Even if grimes plays he can go through the midfield and at 192cm can provide a second tall option in the fwd line.
Really looking fwd to Graham getting a game too.
Has Broad played as a mid in his 2 years at the Tigers? Looks like he is at least fighting for another contract and is looking good. I will keep an eye on him this week in the VFL if he doesnt get a call up.
Apparently he has been rotating through there with positive results.
I'll tell you what, I know he's on the rookie list but Moore looked bloody impressive in the highlights vs Casey. One grab hands almost unstoppable in the air. Bloody quick and confident. Long kick too. 193cm.
We could do a lot worse than play him vs Brisbane on HFF/CHF
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Young Tigers stake senior selection claims.
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2017-07-12/young-tigers-stake-senior-selection-claims
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Ch 7 news said Grimes only ran laps today at training and is in doubt to play on Sunday.
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Ch 7 news said Grimes only ran laps today at training and is in doubt to play on Sunday.
At the player sponsor dinner last night his cheekbone was still swollen
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Would love to see Broad in. Even if grimes plays he can go through the midfield and at 192cm can provide a second tall option in the fwd line.
Really looking fwd to Graham getting a game too.
Has Broad played as a mid in his 2 years at the Tigers? Looks like he is at least fighting for another contract and is looking good. I will keep an eye on him this week in the VFL if he doesnt get a call up.
Apparently he has been rotating through there with positive results.
I'll tell you what, I know he's on the rookie list but Moore looked bloody impressive in the highlights vs Casey. One grab hands almost unstoppable in the air. Bloody quick and confident. Long kick too. 193cm.
We could do a lot worse than play him vs Brisbane on HFF/CHF
He did look good and is exactly what we currently lack, a fast marking tall mobile forward. I'm not against it!
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So, does Towner get another go in your eyes fellas? I reckon he does, after Miles. Been consistently good this year, still young and apparently we reward good form in the VFL. Still lots of doubts he'll make it but bugger it, he'll offer more than Prestia, Edwards and Caddy ATM plus the rest
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So, does Towner get another go in your eyes fellas? I reckon he does, after Miles. Been consistently good this year, still young and apparently we reward good form in the VFL. Still lots of doubts he'll make it but bugger it, he'll offer more than Prestia, Edwards and Caddy ATM plus the rest
At least he won't squib it like about half a dozen currently in this side
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So, does Towner get another go in your eyes fellas? I reckon he does, after Miles. Been consistently good this year, still young and apparently we reward good form in the VFL. Still lots of doubts he'll make it but bugger it, he'll offer more than Prestia, Edwards and Caddy ATM plus the rest
At least he won't squib it like about half a dozen currently in this side
Has been spending a bit of time up forward in the VFL and kicking a few goals...play him in place of Lloyd....at least he'll chase & tackle....hell if you can reinvent a prize dud like Liam Jones then anything's possible.... :shh
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So, does Towner get another go in your eyes fellas? I reckon he does, after Miles. Been consistently good this year, still young and apparently we reward good form in the VFL. Still lots of doubts he'll make it but bugger it, he'll offer more than Prestia, Edwards and Caddy ATM plus the rest
At least he won't squib it like about half a dozen currently in this side
Has been spending a bit of time up forward in the VFL and kicking a few goals...play him in place of Lloyd....at least he'll chase & tackle....hell if you can reinvent a prize dud like Liam Jones then anything's possible.... :shh
Actually thought he looked his best up forward last year rather than mid as well, but then again he didn't do much in either position :lol
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So, does Towner get another go in your eyes fellas? I reckon he does, after Miles. Been consistently good this year, still young and apparently we reward good form in the VFL. Still lots of doubts he'll make it but bugger it, he'll offer more than Prestia, Edwards and Caddy ATM plus the rest
At least he won't squib it like about half a dozen currently in this side
Has been spending a bit of time up forward in the VFL and kicking a few goals...play him in place of Lloyd....at least he'll chase & tackle....hell if you can reinvent a prize dud like Liam Jones then anything's possible.... :shh
Actually thought he looked his best up forward last year rather than mid as well, but then again he didn't do much in either position :lol
Would fit right in then with a few others