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Football => Richmond Rant => Topic started by: 🏅Dooks on July 21, 2017, 11:41:13 AM

Title: Hypothetical - Caracella or Hardwick?
Post by: 🏅Dooks on July 21, 2017, 11:41:13 AM
Hypothetical - yesterday another team approached Blake Caracella and offers him the position of Senior coach at another club, at market value and a bit. Let's call them North Melbourne  for the sake of the hypothetical. Caracella approaches you, the person in a position of power with regard to who gets the coaching contracts and appointments at Richmond. He says it is a financial decision for him, and wants to coach at a senior level in 2018.

However for other reasons (knowledge of playing group, comparative list strengths) he is prepared to stay at Richmond provided the money is matched and is appointed the senior coach position for 2018. North Melbournes offer is fina but only on the table until 5pm Saturday.You also know through intelligence that no other club is interested in Caracella for next year.

Richmond may or may not play finals this year but has a reasonable chance of finishing in the 8. RBasically the true situation of today's reality.

Who do you choose today and why?

You must make the decision today.  Provide your justification in reply posts.
Title: Re: Hypothetical - Caracella or Hardwick?
Post by: tony_montana on July 21, 2017, 12:38:54 PM
Youd tell Blake to cool his heels and wait till the season is over as we're still in this season up to our eyeballs.
Title: Re: Hypothetical - Caracella or Hardwick?
Post by: 🏅Dooks on July 21, 2017, 12:51:20 PM
Youd tell Blake to cool his heels and wait till the season is over as we're still in this season up to our eyeballs.

Youve just lost Caracella under the scenario.
Title: Re: Hypothetical - Caracella or Hardwick?
Post by: yandb on July 21, 2017, 12:56:09 PM
If you are Benny or Peggy you would say the best of luck at North for next year as to accept his proposal is admission that the contract extension was a monumental blunder.
Title: Re: Hypothetical - Caracella or Hardwick?
Post by: (•))(©™ on July 21, 2017, 01:28:07 PM
Caracella is already seen as the outsider. :snidegrin
Title: Re: Hypothetical - Caracella or Hardwick?
Post by: Tigeritis™©® on July 21, 2017, 01:46:54 PM
If it's up to ME I'd take Caracella in a heartbeat.

Any rational thinking person with an ounce of logic can plainly see that Hardwick has the wrong philosophies in regards to coaching & he's continuously contradicted himself throughout his years at the helm.
Who can forget, "unless you can win your own ball you won't be playing in a Richmond jumper!", & the most recent joke, "some teams are high tackling teams, we aren't a high tackling team!" 

The fact that he allowed the loss to the scum cheats in the EF is unforgivable and the fact that he allowed the dees to beat us in the Tommy Hafey tribute game.  :banghead what a idiot.

No plan B, stupid comments about his sex life, no real analytical prowess to the intricacies of the game, has favourite players that contradict his own philosophy, during his tenure we've had the worst player development in the competition. Had the worst hand picked list of assistants ever assembled lead by his best mate. Hellbent on Clarksons gameplan that even Clarkson has evolved from. 
Despite telling us how much they've learnt from close losses we still lose close games after once dominating in that game. His side is still the most mentally weak team in the AFL.   :banghead
He said he had the blueprint to success but haven't seen a single finals win. He said that even if we didn't see the ultimate success after his coaching tenure the club would be better placed to see success. Well if you believe that your delusional.




Who knows if Caracella is the answer but so far the signs are ok.
Highly regarded at Geelong. ✅
Brought in tackling and pressure. ✅✅
He's Italian. ✅✅✅

At this stage almost anyone would be a better option that Dumma ....except maybe Lade.
Title: Re: Hypothetical - Caracella or Hardwick?
Post by: mat073 on July 21, 2017, 02:29:05 PM
When did Caracella become the new messiah  ??
Title: Re: Hypothetical - Caracella or Hardwick?
Post by: mat073 on July 21, 2017, 02:32:18 PM
This "worrying " about losing someone is how Collingwood ended up with Buckley. 

That worked out well .
Title: Re: Hypothetical - Caracella or Hardwick?
Post by: 🏅Dooks on July 21, 2017, 02:37:37 PM
This "worrying " about losing someone is how Collingwood ended up with Buckley. 

That worked out well .

Youve just lost Caracella.
Title: Re: Hypothetical - Caracella or Hardwick?
Post by: Diocletian on July 21, 2017, 03:11:17 PM
Caracella Savoury Rice. :clapping
Title: Re: Hypothetical - Caracella or Hardwick?
Post by: 🏅Dooks on July 21, 2017, 03:21:24 PM
When did Caracella become the new messiah  ??

Since he came to.the club and has been widely credited for our improvement.

And also since the voting is 70% in his favour over Hardwick irrespective of how the season plays out.

Pretty simple.

Whats your counter argument as to why Hardwick should be kept?
Title: Re: Hypothetical - Caracella or Hardwick?
Post by: mat073 on July 21, 2017, 04:33:03 PM
Caracella and Hardwick are premiership team mates at Essendon.  Wonder if that chemistry is one of the reasons why Richmond is performing at a higher than expected standard this year .
Title: Re: Hypothetical - Caracella or Hardwick?
Post by: Go Richo 12 on July 21, 2017, 05:09:11 PM
Caracella and Hardwick are premiership team mates at Essendon.  Wonder if that chemistry is one of the reasons why Richmond is performing at a higher than expected standard this year .
You've just opened the door for more hash tagging of insane connection.
Title: Re: Hypothetical - Caracella or Hardwick?
Post by: the claw on July 21, 2017, 06:39:09 PM
Neither.
Title: Re: Hypothetical - Caracella or Hardwick?
Post by: YellowandBlackBlood on July 21, 2017, 07:24:40 PM
McRae. :shh
Title: Re: Hypothetical - Caracella or Hardwick?
Post by: Diocletian on July 21, 2017, 07:25:49 PM
Bassett, Hodge & Stevie J.  :shh :shh
Title: Re: Hypothetical - Caracella or Hardwick?
Post by: 🏅Dooks on July 21, 2017, 07:26:54 PM
Caracella and Hardwick are premiership team mates at Essendon.  Wonder if that chemistry is one of the reasons why Richmond is performing at a higher than expected standard this year .
You've just opened the door for more hash tagging of insane connection.

...............  :shh..............#insaneconnection
Title: Re: Hypothetical - Caracella or Hardwick?
Post by: big tone on July 21, 2017, 09:03:10 PM
I just don't think you can keep going with Hardwick. The season started out winning games and making changes at the selection table regardless. Now we are playing putrid and keeping the same side ??

I know I've banged on about Rioli over the last 4 weeks but he would have been dropped out of every side in the AFL for his form imo... it doesn't make him a bad player or a bad choice at pick 15, but the kid needs to be dropped purely on form.... it sends a really poo message imo.
Title: Re: Hypothetical - Caracella or Hardwick?
Post by: 🏅Dooks on July 22, 2017, 09:29:52 AM
Well the votes are in

CARACELLA 70%
HARDWICK 30%

Title: Re: Hypothetical - Caracella or Hardwick?
Post by: 1965 on July 22, 2017, 11:20:26 AM
Well the votes are in

CARACELLA 70%
HARDWICK 30%


Small sample size makes the survey statistically invalid.


 :lol



Title: Re: Hypothetical - Caracella or Hardwick?
Post by: tdy on July 22, 2017, 06:51:56 PM
As a club CEO you have to let Caracella go. It's just dynamite to do a deal like this and not expect it to get out in the public. That would ruin yours, blakes and your comittee's careers.

Back room deal no due diligence stabbing your current coach in the back while his season is alive and you will probably make finals and maybe win one. Oh my god this would explode into the papers like a drug/sex and cash stuffed into brown paper bags super scandal
Title: Re: Hypothetical - Caracella or Hardwick?
Post by: mat073 on July 25, 2017, 12:37:10 PM
I wonder if theres anyone on the Port boards wanting to replace Hinkley with Lade  ??
Title: Re: Hypothetical - Caracella or Hardwick?
Post by: Diocletian on March 29, 2019, 02:59:22 PM
Halfstep's clearly run his race - thanks for standing on the dias and helping Cotch lift the cup and everything  but time for Blake to take over the reigns before Essendon jump on him...otherwise we'll be forced to wait until Hodgey's ready for a senior gig... :shh
Title: Re: Hypothetical - Caracella or Hardwick?
Post by: Chuck17 on March 29, 2019, 03:17:52 PM
Is Jade the Blade still available?
Title: Re: Hypothetical - Caracella or Hardwick?
Post by: Diocletian on March 29, 2019, 03:25:10 PM
Only as a package deal with BT.... :shh
Title: Re: Hypothetical - Caracella or Hardwick?
Post by: Assange Tiger 😎 on March 29, 2019, 03:47:34 PM
:lol
Title: Re: Hypothetical - Caracella or Hardwick?
Post by: Go Richo 12 on March 29, 2019, 04:02:36 PM
Sheeds will do it.
Title: Re: Hypothetical - Caracella or Hardwick?
Post by: wayne on March 29, 2019, 04:05:31 PM
What's Brian Royal doing?  :shh
Title: Re: Hypothetical - Caracella or Hardwick?
Post by: torch on March 30, 2019, 09:16:14 AM
Caracella!
Title: Re: Hypothetical - Caracella or Hardwick?
Post by: mat073 on March 30, 2019, 09:36:04 AM
Theres one poster in here in particular who's reminding me of a foolish Jeff Kennet .
One who only praises Caracella when we win and only blames Hardwick when we lose.
Title: Re: Hypothetical - Caracella or Hardwick?
Post by: Francois Jackson on March 30, 2019, 09:50:32 AM
Is Caracalla in charge of the mids? Well if so he has had a shocker start to the year and end to last year

Yeah great plan let's leave Sidebottom and co I tagged while Levi wears dusty like a glove
Title: Re: Hypothetical - Caracella or Hardwick?
Post by: torch on March 30, 2019, 11:00:23 AM
Theres one poster in here in particular who's reminding me of a foolish Jeff Kennet .
One who only praises Caracella when we win and only blames Hardwick when we lose.

Correct.
Title: Re: Hypothetical - Caracella or Hardwick?
Post by: Diocletian on March 30, 2019, 12:47:50 PM
There's a couple of posters in here in particular who wouldn't last long as fish. :shh
Title: Re: Hypothetical - Caracella or Hardwick?
Post by: wayne on March 30, 2019, 02:13:43 PM
Is Caracalla in charge of the mids? Well if so he has had a shocker start to the year and end to last year

Yeah great plan let's leave Sidebottom and co I tagged while Levi wears dusty like a glove

Kingsley?
Title: Re: Hypothetical - Caracella or Hardwick?
Post by: YellowandBlackBlood on March 30, 2019, 02:29:26 PM
Is Caracalla in charge of the mids? Well if so he has had a shocker start to the year and end to last year

Yeah great plan let's leave Sidebottom and co I tagged while Levi wears dusty like a glove

Kingsley?
Correct!
Title: Re: Hypothetical - Caracella or Hardwick?
Post by: Tiger Khosh on March 30, 2019, 03:11:28 PM
Caracalla is in charge of ball movement from memory which has been the worst aspect of our game in the past 2 weeks.

Title: Re: Hypothetical - Caracella or Hardwick?
Post by: MintOnLamb on March 30, 2019, 08:44:33 PM
Caracalla is in charge of ball movement from memory which has been the worst aspect of our game in the past 2 weeks.
Hardwick is in charge of Caracellas..... ergo....
Title: Re: Hypothetical - Caracella or Hardwick?
Post by: Tiger Khosh on March 30, 2019, 08:47:35 PM
Caracalla is in charge of ball movement from memory which has been the worst aspect of our game in the past 2 weeks.
Hardwick is in charge of Caracellas..... ergo....

If Hardwick is in charge of caracella to the extent your implying shouldn’t all the praise that caracella receive in fact go to Hardwick??

Can’t have it both ways as Matty said.
Title: Re: Hypothetical - Caracella or Hardwick?
Post by: Diocletian on April 07, 2019, 12:28:12 AM
Lucky for Halfstep the Bumblers finally had a win... :shh
Title: Re: Hypothetical - Caracella or Hardwick?
Post by: strongandbold on April 07, 2019, 10:35:04 AM
Caracalla is in charge of ball movement from memory which has been the worst aspect of our game in the past 2 weeks.

He can only do what he can.  It’s up the players to execute it.  They aren’t doing this.
Title: Re: Hypothetical - Caracella or Hardwick?
Post by: Tiger Khosh on October 25, 2020, 01:22:10 PM
Sooooooooo caracella or Hardwick????  :whistle
Title: Re: Hypothetical - Caracella or Hardwick?
Post by: Damo on October 25, 2020, 02:11:51 PM
Sooooooooo caracella or Hardwick????  :whistle

You realise Caracalla was crucial in implementing  “our system”
Where was the system in 2016
Title: Re: Hypothetical - Caracella or Hardwick?
Post by: 1965 on October 25, 2020, 03:47:36 PM
So remind me where Caracalla is now.
Title: Re: Hypothetical - Caracella or Hardwick?
Post by: Tiger Khosh on October 25, 2020, 03:58:06 PM
Sooooooooo caracella or Hardwick????  :whistle

You realise Caracalla was crucial in implementing  “our system”
Where was the system in 2016

No one is denying the part caracella played in our success but have a look at some of the comments in this thread. Legit giving majority of the credit to caracella over Hardwick and then funnily enough criticising Hardwick for our losses while caracella didn’t get any.
Title: Re: Hypothetical - Caracella or Hardwick?
Post by: Tigeritis™©® on October 25, 2020, 04:08:05 PM
Hardwick has prove himself to be the mastermind behind our success.

Benny Gale also.

Brilliant.
Title: Re: Hypothetical - Caracella or Hardwick?
Post by: lamington on October 25, 2020, 11:51:43 PM
This season should mark the end of this thread. Although with Leppitsch leaving maybe we should rename the thread?
Title: Re: Hypothetical - Caracella or Hardwick?
Post by: Tazzytiger on October 26, 2020, 03:50:56 PM
Hardwick's greatest asset is his ability to get the team to play for him. He's not the best coach I've seen but he gets the buy in from the players. Therefore he gets success. The boys love him