One-Eyed Richmond Forum
Football => Richmond Rant => Topic started by: Puntroadroar on June 13, 2004, 04:54:18 PM
-
team is up by 39 points should have been more IMO, didnt turn up after half time for 3 weeks in a row
it is clear the players have no confidence in their own ability when challenged. Who is accountable? the players, the coach or both?
Fremantle clearly wanted to win more than us after half time.
well done Richmond ::)
-
Sad, but true.
I think its time we introduced some more big bodies into the side to give us some hardness around the contest - Adam Houlihan and Matthew Rogers. ;D Blumfield, D.Kellaway, Rogers, Hilton and Houlihan should not be selected before round 22 where they all say their farewells.
Did anyone listen to Danny's press conference?
-
That game was hilarious for the amount and type of mistakes by both sides. Benny Hill stuff. Freo stuffed up heaps in the first half. Unbelievably moreso than us. 28-16 errors. That Freo player who kicked a torp sideways straight out on the full. Priceless! We sadly returned the favour in the second half :'( and once Freo got a sniff they clicked into top gear and ran right over the top of us. Once again we got smashed in the contests.
Once they kicked those two time-on goals before half time you knew we were in danger of blowing it which we did. The game should have been over at half with us up by at last 8 goals. We don't bury sides when we are on top. Never have under Frawley!
I reckon we are unfit as well as a psychological rabble. Many of our guys could hardly manage a jog in the second half. We play for so long then run out of puff. Once tired out mistakes just multiply out of this world. Of course Danny wants old tired players for experience >:(.
Only good thing to come out of today was we keep our chances of priority draft well and truly alive. By crickey we need them :-\.
-
You know, i simply don't care about the footy any more.
39 points up just to give it away.
Why should i care - they don't!
I really do care lol, but i think you ppls get my drift. How many of you were shattered after the game? Or was it just something you expected? I never had faith in them at half time - just knew they'd stuff it up.
-
LMAO
I am comfortably numb.Cant even say i was upset with the capitulation(again),In fact I laughed.
It's clear that the team just cant "Get Up " for Frawley anymore nor should they,you can only do it for so long.
Apart from the obvious coaching errors, of which there were many the look of non intrest on the field says it all. The team should be given the rest of the year off to re-cooperate from the pangs of spuds touch of death.
His contribution has hit hard and deep ;D - thats no joke actually.
What's the point of aiming for finals when you stand to lose more than its worth.
There is no way we can compete against the likes of Brisbane,Port....anyone really so when Frawley speaks of being in the race to play finals footy I just LMAO.
What for ? We wont win any games and at the same time we give away our draft picks.
Tivendale is the epitomy of soft and is just the tip of the big dildo of softness that adds to our feminine reputation on a weekly basis.
The guy cannot handle any pressure WHATSOEVER!
His disposal by foot is comical when any pressure is exerted on him,wether it by by opponent or clock.
He is not alone.
We harbour a cast of MANY that fit into this genre.
Hazleby said after the game,
"We knew they'd stop in the 2nd half"
Surprise,surprise.....he was right.
I cant wait to see Frawley go.
He represents the pinnacle of loserdom and social ineptness while posing as our leader.
stuff off.
-
I'm not shattered froars cause each disasterous loss such as today exposes the phoney footballers and coaches we have. Goodbye to them all by season end!
Did anyone listen to Danny's press conference?
Yeah nah JohnF ;D.
I just caught a glimpse on the news. He blamed those two goals before half time. Said it probably gave Freo a sniff and sowed the seeds of doubt in us.
-
lmao @ ox inventing words like loserdom. Seriously, the club need to look at Frawleys position so that the young players know that mediocrity is unacceptable. It is a shame we are in the poo financially.
I am excited about the handouts - financial and draftwise we are going to be receiving.
-
Bloody oath were unfit MT.
The most in the comp actually.
Tell me u cant blame the coach for that.
FFS,In todays sporting arena Physical excellence is paramount but somehow RFC is still in the 80s.
BRING TOM HAFEY BACK AS HEAD PHYSICAL CONDITIONER.
Let him give them a programm to live with.
If they can look half as good as him at his age they'll be lucky.
-
How many of you were shattered after the game?
ill raise my hand to that, Unfortunately i made the mistake of backing richmond to the tune of $200
-
I was pretty peeed off that we lost. If we were certainties to get priority picks at the end of the year then I wouldn't be that upset, but I have a feeling that we will somehow manage to win a couple of games and be denied them.
Anyway, I'm still looking forward to Blumfield, D.Kellaway, Hilton, Houlihan, Rogers, Nicholls, Fletcher all getting the arse at the end of the year and making way for some kids. Hopefully we can snare a couple of good ones.
-
BRING TOM HAFEY BACK AS HEAD PHYSICAL CONDITIONER.
I dont think it is that simple oxley old boy. Fitness and conditioning is a full-on science these days. Its no wonder that the hallmark of the lions premiership sides has been the superb condition of the players. Look at what they have pioneered - ice rooms, drips, hyperbaric chambers - OK some of them have been outlawed, but for every one that is made illegal, there are probably four or five innovations that give them an edge.
-
How many of you were shattered after the game?
ill raise my hand to that, Unfortunately i made the mistake of backing richmond to the tune of $200
Damn Brian, sue the club!
-
ill raise my hand to that, Unfortunately i made the mistake of backing richmond to the tune of $200
Ouch!
I'd get more value for money in the pokies then backing richmond.
-
Welcome to One-Eyed Bwian !!!!
-
BRING TOM HAFEY BACK AS HEAD PHYSICAL CONDITIONER.
I dont think it is that simple oxley old boy. Fitness and conditioning is a full-on science these days. Its no wonder that the hallmark of the lions premiership sides has been the superb condition of the players. Look at what they have pioneered - ice rooms, drips, hyperbaric chambers - OK some of them have been outlawed, but for every one that is made illegal, there are probably four or five innovations that give them an edge.
Very true Jake my lad, and we must surely get with the times. But on the psychological front when it comes to motivation to work out, I think Hafey would be great to have there. You can have all the scientific innovations you want but if you have a team full of lazy slobs they still won't get the most out of themselves. They should try looking at a 70 year old man in the eye who is putting in more than they are and see how they live with themselves.
-
Was I devasted? Am I comfortably numb? Do I care anyome?
I simply cannot answer these questions. To be honest I am not sure how I feel anymore.
What I can say though is, and I have said this many times before, when the game was in the balance we had no-one who stood up. Our lack of leadership came to the fore once more. And that is what ticks me off more than anything.
I am sick to death of the usual suspects gettng a game or worse still game time when we have good kids sitting on the pine. What is the point of picking the likes of Hartigan and Moore and then playing them for 3-5 minutes a quarter. Moore in particular deserved a better go than he got today.
I am still in state of shock that Schulz got as much time on the ground that he did. And guess what in the first quarter he was very good. Hell the Dockers even moved McPharlin on him - what does that tell you?
-
Can't believe the lack of game time that Moore got, particularly when you look at how well he acquitted himself the week before. What was wrong with starting him on the ground?
I thought Duncan got far too much game time - before the game I'd half convinced myself that perhaps he'd told the club he was retiring and that this would be his last game.....wishful thinking.
I thought that Connelly actually managed to change our team structure even though we were up and should have been dictating terms. Classic example - Bowden was well on top of Pavlich so he moved Pavlich first into the middle and then when that didn't work he moved him into our fwd line. Effectively took Bowden's run and (and boy did we need run) and set ups out of the game.
We are reactive in the way we're coached and that shows in the way the players play. As soon as we're headed or threatened the siege mentality takes over and it's every man and his dog behind the ball. What is wrong with trying to win a game?
Also cannot work out why when the ball is not getting to the full fwd line why we don't move Richo to CHF and drop Ottens or Staff back to full fwd. Richo will ALWAYS give a contest and bust a pack - if th ball gets near him you are guaranteed that something will happen, usually to the advantage of the Tiges. But NO we said that he'd play FF all season and by God that's what he's going to do.
Richmond may be a side without confidence, but I'm a supporter with no confidence. :'(
-
Goos to see someome as knowledgeable as you BG 25 posting at OER, more of your accurate posts would be greatly appreciated ;)
Yes, if Duncan Kellaway gets another game, I will burn the joint down. ;)
-
"Yeah, Nah" i was infuriated with our capitulation on Sunday.
I sat there completely sober for the first time in ages and felt the pain even more.
I just couldnt stop cursing and carrying on as i walked out of the ground.
Spot on WP, no-one to stand up and take control.
Captain Campbell is past it.
Throw the rookies in and shove the tired old faces out to Coburg.
-
I was livid. To spend good money to watch blokes get paid a fortune to play for the club who l love and they dont is insulting in the extreme.How many of those players could walk off the ground with their heads held high that they played the game to the best of there ability and ran and fought it out til the end....1? 2-3?
stuff that for a joke,every week we're given the same crap served up while they still earn a massive wedge regardless of effort and pride.
Damn right lm angry >:(
-
I am sick to death of the usual suspects gettng a game or worse still game time when we have good kids sitting on the pine. What is the point of picking the likes of Hartigan and Moore and then playing them for 3-5 minutes a quarter. Moore in particular deserved a better go than he got today.
Infuriates me no end too WP.
Mind you, he gets a go when the game looks shot. No, we don’t want to throw our young players to the wolves or anything, but we want them to save our backside when things look grim. ::)
Why Blumfield was given a game before he was ready to play is beyond me? Are we going that good, or that bad, that we need to play those who aren’t match fit?
I thought Chris Hyde did well early in the game, but for some inexplicable reason spent a lot of time on the bench. He’s one player who has been putting in and he gets rewarded by being benched.
Brent Hartigan has spent a lot of time on the bench the last few weeks, they either send him back to Coburg to get some form, fitness and probably confidence back or they give him some proper game time. >:(
-
Why Blumfield was given a game before he was ready to play is beyond me? Are we going that good, or that bad, that we need to play those who aren’t match fit?
That bad I reckon as well as hoping someone playing for their career would show a bit - a joke really >:(
Brent Hartigan has spent a lot of time on the bench the last few weeks, they either send him back to Coburg to get some form, fitness and probably confidence back or they give him some proper game time. >:(
This is an interesting one. I was at a dinner last week and Tom Roach spoke. He made a comment about going back to Coburg and having to pick-up the tempo of playing for longer periods after having spent the previous few weeks on the bench in the seniors. It makes you wonder the harm these prolonged pine exercises are costing these young blokes :-\
-
I was at a dinner last week and Tom Roach spoke. He made a comment about going back to Coburg and having to pick-up the tempo of playing for longer periods after having spent the previous few weeks on the bench in the seniors. It makes you wonder the harm these prolonged pine exercises are costing these young blokes :-\
It doesn’t make me wonder WP, it just makes me angry. Logic and commonsense would say that it doesn’t do them any good.
-
It doesn’t make me wonder WP, it just makes me angry. Logic and commonsense would say that it doesn’t do them any good.
Wash your mouth out TS - logic and commonsense are words that are not used at my Club ;) ;D ;D ;D
-
It doesn’t make me wonder WP, it just makes me angry. Logic and commonsense would say that it doesn’t do them any good.
Wash your mouth out TS - logic and commonsense are words that are not used at my Club ;) ;D ;D ;D
What a coincidence WP, they're not used at mine either. :-\ ;D :'(
-
Post-May syndrome strikes again
Paul Gough
Sportal/exclusive to afl.com.au
14 June, 2004
Richmond fans could have been excused for feeling a case of déjà vu as they watched their club's season all but end, against Fremantle at the MCG on Sunday.
It was not just the fact they watched as the Tigers lost a game they should have won - after leading by 39 points late in the second quarter - that would have the "Tiger Army" thinking "here we go again."
But it was the timing of this latest setback that continues an alarming trend for Richmond under coach Danny Frawley.
A win against the Dockers would have stopped what is fast becoming known as the "post May curse" at Punt Road.
After three successive wins in rounds six, seven and eight this season, the Tigers were back on track with four wins and four losses and well in contention for a finals berth.
But since then, including Sunday's heart-breaking 10-point loss to the Dockers, the Tigers have now lost four in a row and at 4-8 and with the worst percentage in the AFL they are stuck in 14th place and look set to miss the finals again - as they have done every year since 1982 with the exceptions of 1995 and 2001.
And their slide since round eight this season mirrors exactly what they have done in each of the past two years under the embattled Frawley, whose contract runs out at the end of this season.
In 2002, the Tigers were also four wins and four losses after eight rounds and as winter began seemingly in contention for a finals berth.
They then proceeded to lose the next nine games in succession to eventually finish in 14th place.
Last year after round eight they were even better placed, having just beaten Melbourne to be sitting third with six wins and two losses.
They then lost their next eight games in a row and managed only one more win for the season to finish in 13th place.
And this year, well, it's already four losses in a row since round eight and with a revitalised Carlton plus Brisbane, Essendon and St Kilda to come in the next month - is it any wonder Richmond fans are already beginning to believe their team's season will fade into oblivion during the winter months, just as it has in the past two years?
http://richmondfc.com.au/default.asp?pg=featurestories&spg=display&articleid=154817
-
AIM –To rectify the situation at Punt road and set a new precedent for club management,
Physical conditioning,membership totals and active sponsorship.
METHOD – Delist or trade.Turn-over list.No-one is unreplacable.
Replace Coach and coaching panel,admin
RESULT – Incompleted
When richmond people talk of such and such not being good enough they
are in actual fact speaking in terms of the new level of superiority they hope the club will set.
This may be a pipe dream but it's where we want to go.
It's yesterdays news that kellaway is at best the most awkwardly orientated player in the league
yet manages to be pushing for selection provided he can walk but it is still todays News at Richmond.
On Field.
I think it's fair to want the club to set new standards in physical conditioning and i think its imperative to achieve such standards if we are to be the best we can.
The only thing stopping us is a lost culture that has morphed into one of sheer laziness,selfishness and greed. Comradery and club passion has been flushed down the s-bend and replaced with an individualistic instinct for survival..
A mental and physical softness has more embedded itself within the club and gives credence to comments like “Bowden is a girl”
I’ve seen enough over recent years to make an educated observation that there is no hope while these types of players are still given opportunities and there is even less hope that they can find there way out of the psyche that is now a part of their life and memories of the RFC.
Not unlike a far-reaching disease this germ is responsible for our current predicament and perhaps more importantly,the admin of past years for not recognizing the symptom
before it was too late.I guess it’s hard to recognize a problem when you’re such a big part of it.
Coaching.
Forget Kevin Sheedy.
If he came back next year I’d give up wanking.
I hear people say how they prefer him over Wallace because Wallace walked out on his club.IMO,Sheeds has bent us over too many times in the past when trying to up his rate at Bumma land.
Big Kev has rodgered us more than Wallace ever could and still manages to get us excited.
When will we grow up.?
I look at Wallace as a 3 year contract coach.
The club has 3 years to target a topline replacement while Terry turns it over and gets some idiot back into the group.
As I’ve said before,this makes us a far more attractive prospect when aiming for topline coaches.Come the end of 3 years tell Wallace to get on shanks pony as we continue our impeccable record for killing coaches – Nothing wrong with it!!
Using Frawley as our poster boy for new found stability could be likened to building your home on quicksand.
Another brilliant marketing strategy.
ADMIN
Our plan for the future should be……… good - no…………...great!Why?
Because we've had 20 years to watch and learn from other clubs mistakes
as well as our own quagmire of underhanded,bad decision making.
Time is here to get with the modern aspects of running a football club.
With our laughable record we need to hire the right people for the right departments
and preferably choose the applicants on merits standardized from within the club as opposed to recommendations from the AFL(MAO)
It’s hard to comment on who is right for what at this stage as one needs a resume,at least
to begin to form even the smallest of opinions.
It’s easy to comment on who is wrong for the job.
-
LMFAOO @ the in-depth internal audit report including observations, implications and recommendations issued by independant auditors Earnst & Ox.
-
LMAOO
-
That was brilliant Ox!!!! ;D
Once again u have cured my post match trauma ........
-
Frawley made so many bad decisions on sunday.
The worst one was moving Ray Hall off Simmonds, Hall was all over him in the first qtr only to moved to a half forward stuff and put Gaspar on simmonds.
Great move Spud.
Even taking Pettifer off at times, to his credit Pettifer played a good game and was killing Medhurst. He was only playing a half back spot and surely he could play a full game in that spot.
-
Forget Kevin Sheedy.
If he came back next year I’d give up wanking.
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
You crack me up lol - the things you do hey!!
But Sheeds is still No. 1 in my book. Just because he's screwed us in the past, doesn't mean he really owes us any favours. If i was him, I'd be looking after number one as well - and when you look at this rabble of a club, it would be a daunting thing to say i'm gonna leave something that I've built up to be the most successful club in 2 decades (Essendon) to go home to a place where even i'm not sure i could make a difference. We are hopeless. I hated Sheeds for not wanting to come back a couple of years ago, but really, why would you want to? I still think he's the best man for the job - even if he is getting on. He's the complete package - coaching, marketing, head kicker, everything. His record with recruiting is second to none when it comes to building up a list of youngsters. He rarely goes for hacks is why i like him so much. I would be doing anything legal or illegal to get him to the Tiges.
-
What about Mick Malthouse? How long does he have at Collingwood?
-
I thought Chris Hyde did well early in the game, but for some inexplicable reason spent a lot of time on the bench. He’s one player who has been putting in and he gets rewarded by being benched.
D’oh
Seems I owe someone an apology. :-[ I had a look at the tape last night (admittedly it was mostly in fast forward mode) and it seems that Chris Hyde spent the majority of the time on the ground.
It is true that he did go to the bench, but from what I could tell, it was only in the last few minutes of the last quarter. I’ll see if I can’t get my facts right next time. :P
-
What about Mick Malthouse? How long does he have at Collingwood?
Contracted for 2005 and possibly 2006 - not an option
-
Forget Kevin Sheedy.,If he came back next year I’d give up wanking.
Thread bookmarked ;D
-
What about Mick Malthouse? How long does he have at Collingwood?
I think WP is correct. He's definitely contracted for at least next year.
I must admit I've gone off Malthouse this year. Appears to suffer a Danny trait of having favourites in his squad and continually playing them even when they are performing poorly. Collingwood also made the fatal mistake (like we did in 2001) of not making any changes to their team after getting near the top. They had chances of picking up Nick Stevens (for Didak) and possibly Browny (suffer! ;D) but refused to give up decent players in return. You always must improve your list no matter where you are on the ladder otherwise you will go backwards.
-
Forget Kevin Sheedy.,If he came back next year I’d give up wanking.
Thread bookmarked ;D
Please dear God,dont let him come back next year.....please. ;D
-
Tommy could fill in for the reast of the season - and would probably do it for nothing. But then he might get them winning games just when we least need it. :)