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Title: Official round 21 team vs Cats - Jack in for Miles.
Post by: one-eyed on August 10, 2017, 06:20:47 PM
Jack has been selected according to Ch 7.
Title: Re: Official round 21 team vs Cats - Jack in for Miles
Post by: one-eyed on August 10, 2017, 06:22:34 PM
In: Riewoldt

Out: Miles – omitted

Source: RFC twitter.
Title: Re: Official round 21 team vs Cats - Jack in for Miles.
Post by: one-eyed on August 10, 2017, 06:24:12 PM
The Round 21 Richmond team

B: Rance, Astbury, Grimes
HB: Houli, Vlastuin, B. Ellis
C: Prestia, Edwards, Cotchin
HF: Martin, Rioli, Castagna
F: Riewoldt, Lambert, Butler
R: Nankervis, Grigg, Caddy
IC: C. Ellis, McIntosh, Broad, Soldo

Em: Short, Miles, Graham

http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2017-08-10/round-21-team-announcement
Title: Re: Official round 21 team vs Cats - Jack in for Miles.
Post by: one-eyed on August 10, 2017, 06:42:16 PM
Geelong's team for those interested:

B:   Tom Stewart, Tom Lonergan, Jake Kolodjashnij
HB: Jed Bews, Lachie Henderson, Zach Tuohy
C:   Andrew Mackie, Patrick Dangerfield, Jordan Murdoch
HF: Steven Motlop, Rhys Stanley, Cameron Guthrie
F:   Daniel Menzel, Harry Taylor, James Parsons
Foll: Zac Smith, Scott Selwood, Sam Menegola
Int: Brandan Parfitt, Zach Guthrie, Sam Simpson, Jackson Thurlow

EmG: Wylie Buzza, Jordan Cunico, Jack Henry


In: P.Dangerfield, R.Stanley, S.Motlop, D.Menzel

Out: J.Selwood (ankle), T.Hawkins (suspension), M.Duncan (suspension), W.Buzza

http://www.geelongcats.com.au/news/2017-08-10/cats-name-round-21-side
Title: Re: Official round 21 team vs Cats - Jack in for Miles.
Post by: Simonator on August 10, 2017, 06:43:41 PM
Well half expected but I thought miles playing well. Putting a lot of faith in c Ellis.
Title: Re: Official round 21 team vs Cats - Jack in for Miles.
Post by: Dougeytherichmondfan on August 10, 2017, 06:51:03 PM
Despite Hawkins, Selwood and Duncan out they still have some great ins.

MUST go as hard as we did last week. Even then it'll be a tight game.
Title: Re: Official round 21 team vs Cats - Jack in for Miles.
Post by: Diocletian on August 10, 2017, 06:55:10 PM
Well half expected but I thought miles playing well. Putting a lot of faith in c Ellis.

That effort in the goal square in the last quarter was probably the deal breaker for Miles - besides, with Selwood out we no longer need to match Geelong for head high frees so it sort of makes sense...
Title: Re: Official round 21 team vs Cats - Jack in for Miles.
Post by: lamington on August 10, 2017, 07:16:11 PM
The miles incident looked horrible but then look at Castagna in the goal square vs GCS? I think it is a bit harsh to single out Miles who for me has helped us win midfield battles of late
Title: Re: Official round 21 team vs Cats - Jack in for Miles.
Post by: tony_montana on August 10, 2017, 07:49:41 PM
Given that C Ellis was touch and go all week due to soreness, I find it strange they'd keep him in and drop Miles
Title: Re: Official round 21 team vs Cats - Jack in for Miles.
Post by: Diocletian on August 10, 2017, 07:55:49 PM
Would've thught Soldo was the obvious ommission this week....
Title: Re: Official round 21 team vs Cats - Jack in for Miles.
Post by: YellowandBlackBlood on August 10, 2017, 08:06:23 PM
Would've thught Soldo was the obvious ommission this week....
I think we kept him in because Smith is a monster ruck who would dominate the hitouts against a much shorter Nank.
Title: Re: Official round 21 team vs Cats - Jack in for Miles.
Post by: Diocletian on August 10, 2017, 08:17:28 PM
He's hardly Gawn. Jacobs or Ryder....or even Lobb for that matter...
Title: Re: Official round 21 team vs Cats - Jack in for Miles.
Post by: lamington on August 10, 2017, 08:30:03 PM
I would still keep Soldo as relief as we need a fit and firing Toby for finals and many more seasons for the matter
Title: Re: Official round 21 team vs Cats - Jack in for Miles.
Post by: Diocletian on August 10, 2017, 08:33:27 PM
He'll be getting a week off before the finals....
Title: Re: Official round 21 team vs Cats - Jack in for Miles.
Post by: Yeahright on August 10, 2017, 09:41:11 PM
The miles incident looked horrible but then look at Castagna in the goal square vs GCS? I think it is a bit harsh to single out Miles who for me has helped us win midfield battles of late

Get destroyed in the middle and lose --> bring in miles and win --> drop miles --> ???
Title: Re: Official round 21 team vs Cats - Jack in for Miles.
Post by: YellowandBlackBlood on August 10, 2017, 09:47:16 PM
I think we lack that extra inside mid when Miles isn't there. We've been better with Prestia AND Miles rather than one or the other.
Title: Re: Official round 21 team vs Cats - Jack in for Miles.
Post by: tony_montana on August 10, 2017, 09:51:54 PM
I think we lack that extra inside mid when Miles isn't there. We've been better with Prestia AND Miles rather than one or the other.

Agree wouldve rested C Ellis, its no coincidence that Prestias output has improved when Miles has come in to take some of the load off
Title: Re: Official round 21 team vs Cats - Jack in for Miles.
Post by: big tone on August 10, 2017, 10:06:41 PM
Very predictable club.

Anyways....  :gotigers
Title: Re: Official round 21 team vs Cats - Jack in for Miles.
Post by: mat073 on August 10, 2017, 10:14:41 PM
I think we lack that extra inside mid when Miles isn't there. We've been better with Prestia AND Miles rather than one or the other.

Agreed .
Title: Re: Official round 21 team vs Cats - Jack in for Miles.
Post by: MintOnLamb on August 10, 2017, 10:31:07 PM
I love Miles but have to trust the process
Title: Re: Official round 21 team vs Cats - Jack in for Miles.
Post by: Eat_em_Alive on August 10, 2017, 11:35:12 PM
The miles incident looked horrible but then look at Castagna in the goal square vs GCS? I think it is a bit harsh to single out Miles who for me has helped us win midfield battles of late

Get destroyed in the middle and lose --> bring in miles and win --> drop miles --> ???
Yep
Worse players than miles..
Title: Re: Official round 21 team vs Cats - Jack in for Miles.
Post by: Tigeritis™©® on August 11, 2017, 12:05:02 AM
Well half expected but I thought miles playing well. Putting a lot of faith in c Ellis.

That effort in the goal square in the last quarter was probably the deal breaker for Miles - besides, with Selwood out we no longer need to match Geelong for head high frees so it sort of makes sense...

Miles was blindsighted. Who was the other Richmond  player and why didn't he shepherd for Miles?
Title: Re: Official round 21 team vs Cats - Jack in for Miles.
Post by: eliminator on August 11, 2017, 06:41:19 AM
I think we lack that extra inside mid when Miles isn't there. We've been better with Prestia AND Miles rather than one or the other.

Agree wouldve rested C Ellis, its no coincidence that Prestias output has improved when Miles has come in to take some of the load off

I agree. Would have rested Ellis C. It makes more sense to have an additional inside mid given the dimensions of the ground and would have freed up Prestia to try and combat Dangerfield.
Title: Re: Official round 21 team vs Cats - Jack in for Miles.
Post by: WilliamPowell on August 11, 2017, 06:49:12 AM
Well half expected but I thought miles playing well. Putting a lot of faith in c Ellis.

That effort in the goal square in the last quarter was probably the deal breaker for Miles - besides, with Selwood out we no longer need to match Geelong for head high frees so it sort of makes sense...

Miles was blindsighted. Who was the other Richmond  player and why didn't he shepherd for Miles?

Thats was Dusty  :lol
Title: Re: Official round 21 team vs Cats - Jack in for Miles.
Post by: Chuck17 on August 11, 2017, 06:59:07 AM
Well half expected but I thought miles playing well. Putting a lot of faith in c Ellis.

That effort in the goal square in the last quarter was probably the deal breaker for Miles - besides, with Selwood out we no longer need to match Geelong for head high frees so it sort of makes sense...

Miles was blindsighted. Who was the other Richmond  player and why didn't he shepherd for Miles?

He didn't need shepherding he just needed to kick it instead of hatching it
Title: Re: Official round 21 team vs Cats - Jack in for Miles.
Post by: Tigeritis™©® on August 11, 2017, 07:56:38 AM
Well half expected but I thought miles playing well. Putting a lot of faith in c Ellis.

That effort in the goal square in the last quarter was probably the deal breaker for Miles - besides, with Selwood out we no longer need to match Geelong for head high frees so it sort of makes sense...

Miles was blindsighted. Who was the other Richmond  player and why didn't he shepherd for Miles?

He didn't need shepherding he just needed to kick it instead of hatching it
In that scenario Miles assumed Dusty wanted the ball and hesitated, why he hesitated I can only speculate that Dusty was calling for the ball. Some players don't have the confidence of the top liners to ignore a stupid call but in this case instead of just kicking the goal he sees Dusty on his right and can't see the opposition player steaming in on his left. I don't know for sure but it looks as though Dusty calls for the ball but he shouldn't have called for the ball but instead whilst shepherding he'd be yelling for Miles to just kick the goal.

Shepherding is another missing ingredient. It's not hard to implement or execute and it's a very effective weapon. I don't know why when a player handpasses the ball to a teammate running past he can't just shepherd the chasing opponent but in today's footy time and time again you'll see the player that handpasses runs to try to get another handpass because his teammate just got caught.
 :rollin

Title: Re: Official round 21 team vs Cats - Jack in for Miles.
Post by: Chuck17 on August 11, 2017, 08:34:42 AM
Well half expected but I thought miles playing well. Putting a lot of faith in c Ellis.

That effort in the goal square in the last quarter was probably the deal breaker for Miles - besides, with Selwood out we no longer need to match Geelong for head high frees so it sort of makes sense...

Miles was blindsighted. Who was the other Richmond  player and why didn't he shepherd for Miles?

He didn't need shepherding he just needed to kick it instead of hatching it
In that scenario Miles assumed Dusty wanted the ball and hesitated, why he hesitated I can only speculate that Dusty was calling for the ball. Some players don't have the confidence of the top liners to ignore a stupid call but in this case instead of just kicking the goal he sees Dusty on his right and can't see the opposition player steaming in on his left. I don't know for sure but it looks as though Dusty calls for the ball but he shouldn't have called for the ball but instead whilst shepherding he'd be yelling for Miles to just kick the goal.


I am not sure he called for the ball, I think it was all Miles
Title: Re: Official round 21 team vs Cats - Jack in for Miles.
Post by: Go Richo 12 on August 11, 2017, 08:42:41 AM
Miles stuffed up, let's not over complicate it.
Title: Re: Official round 21 team vs Cats - Jack in for Miles.
Post by: Chuck17 on August 11, 2017, 08:58:47 AM
Miles stuffed up, let's not over complicate it.

Yep

Not that I hold it against Miles as he has plenty of runs on the board.

Plus we gift games to spuds who continually make mistakes over and over again.
Title: Re: Official round 21 team vs Cats - Jack in for Miles.
Post by: Go Richo 12 on August 11, 2017, 10:24:52 AM
Miles stuffed up, let's not over complicate it.

Yep

Not that I hold it against Miles as he has plenty of runs on the board.

Plus we gift games to spuds who continually make mistakes over and over again.
I agree, he is stiff to be dropped.
Title: Re: Official round 21 team vs Cats - Jack in for Miles.
Post by: the claw on August 11, 2017, 04:50:17 PM
gotta look at his tog as well. every week he is in the bottom 2 or 3 for time on ground, He not only is not given a great go when he plays he is also the one who cops it in the neck when changes are made.

Yep he makes the odd howler here and there but this bloke has been as solid as a rock and his decision making and ball use   a long with his toughness has been a hell of a lot better than a few of his more liked team mates.
Title: Re: Official round 21 team vs Cats - Jack in for Miles.
Post by: Eat_em_Alive on August 11, 2017, 07:05:57 PM
gotta look at his tog as well. every week he is in the bottom 2 or 3 for time on ground, He not only is not given a great go when he plays he is also the one who cops it in the neck when changes are made.

Yep he makes the odd howler here and there but this bloke has been as solid as a rock and his decision making and ball use   a long with his toughness has been a hell of a lot better than a few of his more liked team mates.

Totally agree
Title: Re: Official round 21 team vs Cats - Jack in for Miles.
Post by: big tone on August 11, 2017, 08:51:37 PM
I think it has to be a personality clash between Dimma and Miles. No other logical explanation imo.
Dimma has his favourites and it's pretty clear who they are.
Title: Re: Official round 21 team vs Cats - Jack in for Miles.
Post by: tdy on August 11, 2017, 10:02:31 PM
Team unity does make a difference. Not the be all and end all but I'm sure Dimma is very concious of it. That if anything is his strength people skills.
Title: Re: Official round 21 team vs Cats - Jack in for Miles.
Post by: lamington on August 11, 2017, 10:50:35 PM
I think it has to be a personality clash between Dimma and Miles. No other logical explanation imo.
Dimma has his favourites and it's pretty clear who they are.

I think Shane Tuck can shed some light on this
Title: Re: Official round 21 team vs Cats - Jack in for Miles.
Post by: YellowandBlackBlood on August 12, 2017, 04:47:04 PM
Put in Miles instead of Corey Ellis and we win..  :shh
Title: Re: Official round 21 team vs Cats - Jack in for Miles.
Post by: 🏅Dooks on August 12, 2017, 04:56:15 PM
Put in Miles instead of Corey Ellis and we win..  :shh

Prop up my legless uncle with a broomstick instead of Houli and we win
Title: Re: Official round 21 team vs Cats - Jack in for Miles.
Post by: mightytiges on August 12, 2017, 05:07:20 PM
Match committee stuffed up dropping Miles. The smaller ground was conducive to a more contested game.
Title: Re: Official round 21 team vs Cats - Jack in for Miles.
Post by: Diocletian on August 12, 2017, 07:41:47 PM
The Halfstep led Match committee stuffed up yet again.

e.f.a.
Title: Re: Official round 21 team vs Cats - Jack in for Miles.
Post by: Yeahright on August 15, 2017, 10:12:12 PM
The miles incident looked horrible but then look at Castagna in the goal square vs GCS? I think it is a bit harsh to single out Miles who for me has helped us win midfield battles of late

Get destroyed in the middle and lose --> bring in miles and win --> drop miles --> ???

Called it from the get go