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Football => Richmond Rant => Topic started by: one-eyed on August 12, 2017, 06:41:30 PM
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There will be one forced change with Caddy out with a hammy.
Fire away ...
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Out
Caddy
Castagna or Butler
Soldo
Houli but will not be omitted
In
Lennon
Miles
Griff if fit to play
Short if Houli gets dropped :pray
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Wasn't B Ellis best game, in fact nit a frat game for the Ellis surname...
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Actually Townsend needs to play because he deserves it :clapping
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Out
Caddy
Castagna or Butler
Soldo
Houli but will not be omitted
In
Lennon
Miles
Griff if fit to play
Short if Houli gets dropped :pray
Agree on this
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Predictable club
Out- Caddy
In- Miles
What I'd want
Outs- Soldo, Grigg, BEllis, Houli, Broad
Ins- Miles, Graham, Short, Markov, Lennon
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Should be:
Out: Caddy, CEllis. Houli, Grigg, Castagna, BEllis, Broad, Soldo
In: Lennon, Manadue, Short, Graham, Townsend, Bolton. Miles, Markov
Will be:
Out:Caddy
In:Miles
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Should be:
Out: Caddy, CEllis. Houli, Grigg, Castagna, BEllis, Broad, Soldo
In: Lennon, Manadue, Short, Graham, Townsend, Bolton. Miles, Markov
Will be:
Out:Caddy
In:Miles
Yep George was unsighted today.
I thought Butler was bad too.
Rioli the best of the 3 today but his fumbling is an issue.
All 3 have some runs on the board it I reckon it would be pretty tough looking for some crumbs when the opposition take so many uncontested marks in our forwardline.
We need another big body up there to make a contest and unfortunately I don't think they are on our list at present. Griff even fit and Elton are both not really what we need.
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Out: CEllis, Soldo, Caddy, Houli
Ins: Miles, Menadue, Markov, Short
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Out: Hardwick
In: Caracella
:lol
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Your best post ever..... :clapping
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Houli for Short.
Had enough stumbling, bumbling, fumbling from this one sided dumbling.
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Houli for Short.
Had enough stumbling, bumbling, fumbling from this one sided dumbling.
Made me laugh. :lol
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Was at both games. My changes
Out Houli, Caddy, Soldo
In Short, Graham, Lennon.
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Out: Hardwick
In: Caracella
:lol
That's my only change
Fancy putting rance in the f50 with a minute to go after he was getting toweled up
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Houli, would rather handball to an opponent then get body contact
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Out: Hardwick
In: Caracella
:lol
That's my only change
Fancy putting rance in the f50 with a minute to go after he was getting toweled up
stuffing hilarious
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Out: Hardwick
In: Caracella
:lol
That's my only change
Fancy putting rance in the f50 with a minute to go after he was getting toweled up
How do you think BEllis went today in a finals like game?.. serious question
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Out: Hardwick
In: Caracella
:lol
That's my only change
Fancy putting rance in the f50 with a minute to go after he was getting toweled up
stuffing hilarious
As I said...comatose in the box as usual....we're fourth in spite him not because of him.... :shh
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Ins and outs will be very weather dependent.
I'd like to see Miles in, but only if it is wet. Not sure what Townsend is like for pace, but I think Miles would be exposed for a lack of it at a dry Subi. That being said, I can see the hierarchy bringing in Miles for a game which he isn't suited for after leaving him out of a game he was tailor made for. Maybe bring Graham in if he is quicker than Miles/Townsend.
I'd keep C.Ellis in if it is a dry track. We should aim for pace at Subi. I'd also keep Soldo to ruck if it is dry and play Nank as the 2nd tall forward. My dream would be to see Rioli pushed into the middle for as much time as his endurance permits for this game. But I am guessing we are too close to the finals for an experiment.
Houli out but not sure who to bring in. Markov, I reckon the old second year blues have hit here, so not sure if it is an upgrade. Short I guess, but not at all confident about filling this spot.
FWIW, I think Caddy going out might be a blessing in disguise for this game. I think Lennon is a more likely player at Subi.
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Haha Halfstep won't pick Lennon....
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Haha Halfstep won't pick Lennon....
Mrs Hardwick would.
Forgot to list Menadue as a possible inclusion.
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Ins and outs will be very weather dependent.
I'd like to see Miles in, but only if it is wet. Not sure what Townsend is like for pace, but I think Miles would be exposed for a lack of it at a dry Subi. That being said, I can see the hierarchy bringing in Miles for a game which he isn't suited for after leaving him out of a game he was tailor made for. Maybe bring Graham in if he is quicker than Miles/Townsend.
I'd keep C.Ellis in if it is a dry track. We should aim for pace at Subi. I'd also keep Soldo to ruck if it is dry and play Nank as the 2nd tall forward. My dream would be to see Rioli pushed into the middle for as much time as his endurance permits for this game. But I am guessing we are too close to the finals for an experiment.
Houli out but not sure who to bring in. Markov, I reckon the old second year blues have hit here, so not sure if it is an upgrade. Short I guess, but not at all confident about filling this spot.
FWIW, I think Caddy going out might be a blessing in disguise for this game. I think Lennon is a more likely player at Subi.
CEllis is slow as a wet week. No thanks, worst on ground by a mile today and that includes esteemed company such as Soldo and Houli. Will hopefully not play another game in 2017
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What i th8nk should happen but wont
OUTS: Soldo, Castagna, Cellis, Caddy
INS: Miles, Lennon, Short, Graham,
Likely scenario
INS: Miles, Graham
OUTS: Caddy, Soldo
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Out: Caddy, Soldo, Houli, C Ellis, Butler, Grigg
In: Miles, Maric, Menadue, Short, Bolton, Graham
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CEllis is slow as a wet week.
Unfortunately I have never seen him play live. Bit hard to tell on TV. Just ask Greg Miller.
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Trust me, there's nothing unfortunate about having not seen CEllis play live thus far...
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Out: Caddy (inj), Cellis (softer than melted butter), Castagna (rest), Butler (rest) Houli (just not good enough when the heat is on)
In: Miles, Bolton, Graham and Lennon (needs a chance) Short (for Houli).
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Houli needs to be dropped been so poor along with Grigg.I want to see Short and Menadue in that lineup even Markov we need some more pace.
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Houli needs to be dropped been so poor along with Grigg.I want to see Short and Menadue in that lineup even Markov we need some more pace.
Please dear god i hope you are right
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What i th8nk should happen but wont
OUTS: Soldo, Castagna, Cellis, Caddy
INS: Miles, Lennon, Short, Graham,
Likely scenario
INS: Miles, Graham
OUTS: Caddy, Soldo
I agree but would also consider bringing in Bolton. Lennon should be brought in but won't be. Would love it if they dropped Houli and or Grigg but they will not.
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Was at both games. My changes
Out Houli, Caddy, Soldo
In Short, Graham, Lennon.
In Graham, Lennon, Elton?
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Short Graham Elton
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Elton? Really scrapping the bottom of the barrel.
This guy just isn't up to it. Not even up to vfl standard.
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One thing is for sure and that's Nank needs to play first ruck.
Some players thrive when they are the number one, and I think Nank is that sort of player.
We need to find another tall forward not another first ruck. Soldo is a long way off imo.
Nank is young so I wouldn't worry about burning him out just yet. We have time to find a decent young stuff help in the upcoming drafts.
What we have essentially done is move a player that was in good form away from what he was doing so well to try and fix another problem that has only made it worse.
We have a few options imo.
-give Elton another chance
-play Griffiths
-move Astbury forward
-or even give C. Moore a chance
I think what Saturdays game showed me is Astbury is still a bit panicky when really pressure is on. A move forward might just give him a chance to just jump at the footy and not have to worry about making a mistake.
We really need to find about 5 more goals a game if we are to compete in the upcoming finals because 70 points isn't going to be enough.
Whether is Astbury or someone else we need to find someone that can give us another target Up forward and playing Nank out of position isn't the answer.
We need to take a few risks because if we keep doing what we are doing, we will get the same results in the finals as we did on Saturday.
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Unfortunately, relying on the rest of the competition to drop in standard isn't cutting edge coaching.
This is dimmers style and this is really the only reason we are in the eight and above most.
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Still no Lennon kicked another 3 this week ???.Surely deserves a chance.
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Would like to see us do something about the fwd line.
Would play Moore at f/f and Lennon across h/f. Jr at chf and then add the pace Rioli, Bolton and possibly Markov or Butler. Rotate martin thru there allowing Lennon some midfield time.
FF Rioli - Moore or Elton - Bolton
HF Lennon - Riewoldt - Markov or Butler. if anyone says that set up is too slow i will go heave.
I prefer Moore over Elton because he is super quick and agile but Elton would offer a taller target and give Nankervis some sort of chop out.
the first 5 games of the yr we had a combination of Riewoldt, Griffiths, Elton, Lennon and McIntosh we played two talls and sometimes three and had Caddy and Martin going thru there.
The first 5 games we won we also had 20 goal, 17 goal and 14 goal hauls and at the same time was #1 for tackles and the fwd half pressure was great.
We dont have to play 18 smalls every week to maintain pressure
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Would like to see us do something about the fwd line.
Would play Moore at f/f and Lennon across h/f. Jr at chf and then add the pace Rioli, Bolton and possibly Markov or Butler. Rotate martin thru there allowing Lennon some midfield time.
FF Rioli - Moore or Elton - Bolton
HF Lennon - Riewoldt - Markov or Butler. if anyone says that set up is too slow i will go heave.
I prefer Moore over Elton because he is super quick and agile but Elton would offer a taller target and give Nankervis some sort of chop out.
the first 5 games of the yr we had a combination of Riewoldt, Griffiths, Elton, Lennon and McIntosh we played two talls and sometimes three and had Caddy and Martin going thru there.
The first 5 games we won we also had 20 goal, 17 goal and 14 goal hauls and at the same time was #1 for tackles and the fwd half pressure was great.
We dont have to play 18 smalls every week to maintain pressure
Interesting observations
perhaps we have corrected too far and need to step back and see whats required to get back there before finals
Knowing us though its unlikely well do anything and sit on our hands
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Think we now have a group of pretty astute coaches so I have some faith that between them they know the formula we require.
Would love to see Graham come into the side plus we definately need another marking option in the forward line so either Lennon or Moore have to be worth a try. We have two weeks to get it right and would hate the experimentation to begin at finals time.
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You're forgetting one rather important detail - the main bloke who has the final say is still same useless stuffing idiot....
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Would like to see us do something about the fwd line.
Would play Moore at f/f and Lennon across h/f. Jr at chf and then add the pace Rioli, Bolton and possibly Markov or Butler. Rotate martin thru there allowing Lennon some midfield time.
FF Rioli - Moore or Elton - Bolton
HF Lennon - Riewoldt - Markov or Butler. if anyone says that set up is too slow i will go heave.
I prefer Moore over Elton because he is super quick and agile but Elton would offer a taller target and give Nankervis some sort of chop out.
the first 5 games of the yr we had a combination of Riewoldt, Griffiths, Elton, Lennon and McIntosh we played two talls and sometimes three and had Caddy and Martin going thru there.
The first 5 games we won we also had 20 goal, 17 goal and 14 goal hauls and at the same time was #1 for tackles and the fwd half pressure was great.
We dont have to play 18 smalls every week to maintain pressure
Absolutely agree with this and Moore has spend time playing that second ruck role. The forward half needs tweaking so why not start this week.
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Out: Hardwick
In: Caracella
:lol
That's my only change
Dear God please make it so
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Jack Graham 11 tackles and 19 touches surely gets him a game.
Come on Halfwit give the kid a go.
Graham for Grigg anyone??
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Jack Graham 11 tackles and 19 touches surely gets him a game.
Come on Halfwit give the kid a go.
Graham for Grigg anyone??
Graham for Corey Ellis. :shh
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The Barometer - Round 22
Herald-Sun
14 August 2017
RICHMOND
ON THE BLOCK: There will be at least one forced change with Josh Caddy to miss next Sunday’s clash with Fremantle at Subiaco with a hamstring issue. The club remains hopeful it is on the minor end of the scale. They have ruled out resting any of their stars - Dustin Martin, Trent Cotchin and Alex Rance - for the Dockers’ game, given the club’s top-four quest. Pressure will come on Corey Ellis and Ivan Soldo to keep their spots. Important small forwards Jason Castagna (three disposals) and Dan Butler (four disposals and one goal) didn’t have any impact against Geelong, but deserve to stay in given what they have done so far.
ON THE CUSP: Damien Hardwick said the Tigers will look at some of the good performers from the VFL on the weekend as possible inclusions. Jacob Townsend was his team’s best player in the curtain-raiser game, Jack Graham is showing good promise, Ben Lennon kicked three goals and could fill Caddy’s role up forward, while Anthony Miles and Jayden Short could also be in the mix.
GLENN McFARLANE’S FORECAST: The Tigers let a big opportunity slip through their grasp against the undermanned Cats on Saturday. They need to win their last two games against Fremantle and St Kilda to lock in a top-four berth, especially with Sydney breathing down their neck. Alex Rance doesn’t play two bad games in a row and will hit back hard, Jack Riewoldt will better for the hitout, and Subiaco against the Dockers doesn’t look anywhere near as fearsome as the Cats at Simonds Stadium.
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/more-news/afl-injury-list-whos-hot-and-whos-hurt-after-round-21/news-story/81f063d314cf76356b1c7ff2c44579e4
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If we drop one of Castagna or Butler, we'd have to bring in Bolton - surely you don't subtract pace from your side when you go to Subiaco.....if anything we should be adding pace....perfect ground for Menadue too..... :shh
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last time we played freo at subi was last yr we played all of riewoldt, Vickery, Griffiths and Lloyd and won by 38 points.
We just played Geelong at simonds a ground thats 170 x 118 with a shedload of sml quick players and it got us where. subi is very similar at 175 x 122
Im still not buying into the pace B/S.
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It was also at night & peeing down.....
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We have kicked 12 goals or more against sides above 12th on the ladder just once but hey kicking goals is not the problem lol.
we have kicked more than 12 goals on just 7 occasions and it is against cellar dwellars and bottom third teams.. we have managed to kick 15 or more just 3 times and again you guessed it against cellar dwellars.
9 or 10 goals is a very common theme with this side and it has already been borne out it wont win us games against the top 12 teams yet alone top 8.
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In the Mix - Round 22
Nathan Schmook
afl.com.au
16 August 2017
RICHMOND
The Tigers have options at selection this week after Ben Lennon (three goals), Jack Graham (19 possessions and 11 tackles) and Jayden Short (21 and five inside 50s) put in strong VFL performances.
They also have midfielder Anthony Miles on the fringe after the midfielder was squeezed out of the team last week.
The Tigers were disappointing against Geelong and unforced changes are likely, with Josh Caddy (hamstring) also needing to be replaced.
Miles was an emergency against the Cats and shapes as a likely inclusion, allowing other midfielders to push forward more and cover Caddy's absence.
Graham is also pushing hard to make his debut, having built form nicely since returning from an ankle injury in round 13.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2017-08-15/in-the-mix-whos-a-chance-for-r22-selection
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If we drop one of Castagna or Butler, we'd have to bring in Bolton - surely you don't subtract pace from your side when you go to Subiaco.....if anything we should be adding pace....perfect ground for Menadue too..... :shh
I like Menadue but one of our issues was losing the contested pill. I'd give Graham a crack - it's a perfect game to see how he will perform at senior level
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If we drop one of Castagna or Butler, we'd have to bring in Bolton - surely you don't subtract pace from your side when you go to Subiaco.....if anything we should be adding pace....perfect ground for Menadue too..... :shh
I like Menadue but one of our issues was losing the contested pill. I'd give Graham a crack - it's a perfect game to see how he will perform at senior level
Agree :clapping
But bring in Graham and I don't think there's room for Miles
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Townsend gets a go before graham imo, been in great form for weeks
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If we drop one of Castagna or Butler, we'd have to bring in Bolton - surely you don't subtract pace from your side when you go to Subiaco.....if anything we should be adding pace....perfect ground for Menadue too..... :shh
I like Menadue but one of our issues was losing the contested pill. I'd give Graham a crack - it's a perfect game to see how he will perform at senior level
Agree :clapping
But bring in Graham and I don't think there's room for Miles
Maintaining our pace or adding to it doesn't have to exclude us also adding inside grunt. Only Halfstep's limited vision would exclude us from doing both.... :shh
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Surely Lennon gets a gig with caddy our
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John Lennon has more chance of getting another gig.....
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Maintaining our pace or adding to it doesn't have to exclude us also adding inside grunt. Only Halfstep's limited vision would exclude us from doing both.... :shh
While I understand your point
Graham brings the inside grunt and has greater pace than Miles
I'd want to see Bolton in for Castagna = like for like pace wise with far greater skill
Lennon for Caddy is obvious but like you I think Lennon would have a greater chance if his name was Yoko
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John Lennon has more chance of getting another gig.....
Its a disgrace this kid hasnt been given a go, why did we waste a pick on him.
Anyone know why?
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John Lennon has more chance of getting another gig.....
Its a disgrace this kid hasnt been given a go, why did we waste a pick on him.
Anyone know why?
There were no decent options after him I think our recruiting department is on the record as saying
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John Lennon has more chance of getting another gig.....
Its a disgrace this kid hasnt been given a go, why did we waste a pick on him.
Anyone know why?
There were no decent options after him I think our recruiting department is on the record as saying
Someone needs to pay for this!
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John Lennon has more chance of getting another gig.....
Its a disgrace this kid hasnt been given a go, why did we waste a pick on him.
Anyone know why?
There were no decent options after him I think our recruiting department is on the record as saying
Someone needs to pay for this!
Exstuffingactly
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Townsend gets a go before graham imo, been in great form for weeks
No effing way. Id bet lefty out of all the inside mids rotting in the 2's that we should give games to Graham, Miles and Townsend in that order
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Townsend gets a go before graham imo, been in great form for weeks
No effing way. Id bet lefty out of all the inside mids rotting in the 2's that we should give games to Graham, Miles and Townsend in that order
How many full games has graham even played, 3 or 4?
Everyone's always saying we need to reward form well here is a perfect case for ya. Not just one or two fluke games, he's been consistantly good all year
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Townsend gets a go before graham imo, been in great form for weeks
No effing way. Id bet lefty out of all the inside mids rotting in the 2's that we should give games to Graham, Miles and Townsend in that order
How many full games has graham even played, 3 or 4?
Everyone's always saying we need to reward form well here is a perfect case for ya. Not just one or two fluke games, he's been consistantly good all year
Reward Hunts form then too?
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Wel hunts form hasn't been as good as Townsend. And hunt was given a game earlier in the year. Townsend on the other hand hasn't been given the chance since ??
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John Lennon has more chance of getting another gig.....
Its a disgrace this kid hasnt been given a go, why did we waste a pick on him.
Anyone know why?
There were no decent options after him I think our recruiting department is on the record as saying
And Julian didn't nominate. Nobody told Francis Jackson there'd be days like these
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Maintaining our pace or adding to it doesn't have to exclude us also adding inside grunt. Only Halfstep's limited vision would exclude us from doing both.... :shh
Graham brings the inside grunt and has greater pace than Miles
No he doesnt. people wondering why Graham slipped to where he did its simple he is not an athlete and there was are big knocks on his pace and agility.
Because of his lack of athletic attributes it was generally thought he would be nothing but inside just like Miles.
Miles at least has the runs on the board when it comes to inside play at this level.
dont get me wrong i was wrapped we took Graham and i hope we play him but lets not talk up attributes that he just doe not have.
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Maintaining our pace or adding to it doesn't have to exclude us also adding inside grunt. Only Halfstep's limited vision would exclude us from doing both.... :shh
Graham brings the inside grunt and has greater pace than Miles
No he doesnt. people wondering why Graham slipped to where he did its simple he is not an athlete and there was are big knocks on his pace and agility.
Because of his lack of athletic attributes it was generally thought he would be nothing but inside just like Miles.
Miles at least has the runs on the board when it comes to inside play at this level.
dont get me wrong i was wrapped we took Graham and i hope we play him but lets not talk up attributes that he just doe not have.
After watching him play in Geelong last week there is nothing wrong with his running ability. Quick enough, though not express but covers big km offensively and more importantly, defensively.
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Maintaining our pace or adding to it doesn't have to exclude us also adding inside grunt. Only Halfstep's limited vision would exclude us from doing both.... :shh
Graham brings the inside grunt and has greater pace than Miles
No he doesnt. people wondering why Graham slipped to where he did its simple he is not an athlete and there was are big knocks on his pace and agility.
Because of his lack of athletic attributes it was generally thought he would be nothing but inside just like Miles.
Miles at least has the runs on the board when it comes to inside play at this level.
dont get me wrong i was wrapped we took Graham and i hope we play him but lets not talk up attributes that he just doe not have.
After watching him play in Geelong last week there is nothing wrong with his running ability. Quick enough, though not express but covers big km offensively and more importantly, defensively.
Yep have watched him in a few VFL games, and stand by my viee and that is he has better leg speed than Miles
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To be fair, it's a bit like being the tallest hobbit in the shire...
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Maintaining our pace or adding to it doesn't have to exclude us also adding inside grunt. Only Halfstep's limited vision would exclude us from doing both.... :shh
Graham brings the inside grunt and has greater pace than Miles
No he doesnt. people wondering why Graham slipped to where he did its simple he is not an athlete and there was are big knocks on his pace and agility.
Because of his lack of athletic attributes it was generally thought he would be nothing but inside just like Miles.
Miles at least has the runs on the board when it comes to inside play at this level.
dont get me wrong i was wrapped we took Graham and i hope we play him but lets not talk up attributes that he just doe not have.
What a load of bollocks.
You obviously haven't watched our reserves play at all. He is a little bit like Joel Selwood. Not overly quick but quick enough. Pretty fearless. Runs hard and covers the km's. Kicking is adequate like Joel's but not elite.
My only concern is that he hasn't had a proper preseason and has had an injury interrupted season which means his not at his best at the moment. Everything about him screams future captain though.
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Maintaining our pace or adding to it doesn't have to exclude us also adding inside grunt. Only Halfstep's limited vision would exclude us from doing both.... :shh
Graham brings the inside grunt and has greater pace than Miles
No he doesnt. people wondering why Graham slipped to where he did its simple he is not an athlete and there was are big knocks on his pace and agility.
Because of his lack of athletic attributes it was generally thought he would be nothing but inside just like Miles.
Miles at least has the runs on the board when it comes to inside play at this level.
dont get me wrong i was wrapped we took Graham and i hope we play him but lets not talk up attributes that he just doe not have.
What a load of bollocks.
You obviously haven't watched our reserves play at all. He is a little bit like Joel Selwood. Not overly quick but quick enough. Pretty fearless. Runs hard and covers the km's. Kicking is adequate like Joel's but not elite.
My only concern is that he hasn't had a proper preseason and has had an injury interrupted season which means his not at his best at the moment. Everything about him screams future captain though.
"Future captain"
FMD let him play a game first Doc.
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Maintaining our pace or adding to it doesn't have to exclude us also adding inside grunt. Only Halfstep's limited vision would exclude us from doing both.... :shh
Graham brings the inside grunt and has greater pace than Miles
No he doesnt. people wondering why Graham slipped to where he did its simple he is not an athlete and there was are big knocks on his pace and agility.
Because of his lack of athletic attributes it was generally thought he would be nothing but inside just like Miles.
Miles at least has the runs on the board when it comes to inside play at this level.
dont get me wrong i was wrapped we took Graham and i hope we play him but lets not talk up attributes that he just doe not have.
What a load of bollocks.
You obviously haven't watched our reserves play at all. He is a little bit like Joel Selwood. Not overly quick but quick enough. Pretty fearless. Runs hard and covers the km's. Kicking is adequate like Joel's but not elite.
My only concern is that he hasn't had a proper preseason and has had an injury interrupted season which means his not at his best at the moment. Everything about him screams future captain though.
"Future captain"
FMD let him play a game first Doc.
I was talking about his qualities not his current form. Give him a year or two and you'll see what I mean. I just hope he keeps fit.
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FF Rioli - Moore - Bolton
HF Lennon - Riewoldt - Markov or Butler. if anyone says that set up is too slow i will go heave.
I prefer Moore over Elton because he is super quick and agile but Elton would offer a taller target and give Nankervis some sort of chop out.
I like it Claw :clapping. Only slow person is Lennon (Reiwoldt aint quick but he can hold his own) so still plenty of pace and has some height about it. Only question I have is on Markov, I know he's played FWD before but has he been playing back in the VFL? I just feel we chop and change this kid so much and we need to give him some time to get a position down.
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Graham is a lot quicker than he showed in his draft year - had torn his thigh muscle significantly so his running capacity was nowhere near his ceiling last year. Now that thats healed properly, his speed this season is significantly quicker. Not slow, not even close
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Soldo on flight to Perth