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Title: Official round 22 team vs Dockers
Post by: one-eyed on August 17, 2017, 08:41:26 PM
The Round 22 Richmond Squad

B: Rance, Astbury, Grimes
HB: Houli, Broad, B. Ellis
C: Prestia, Edwards, Vlastuin
HF: Cotchin, Rioli, Castagna
F: Riewoldt, Lambert, Butler
R: Nankervis, Grigg, Martin
IC from: Soldo, McIntosh, C. Ellis, Lennon, Townsend, Markov, Graham

In: Lennon, Townsend, Markov, Graham
Out: Caddy – hamstring

New: Jack Graham, 19, 181cm, 83 kg inside midfielder from North Adelaide (SANFL). Richmond’s second pick (No. 53 overall) in the 2016 AFL National Draft.

The Tigers will finalise their line-up tomorrow (Friday) afternoon.

http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2017-08-17/round-22-squad-announcement
Title: Re: Official round 22 team vs Dockers
Post by: one-eyed on August 17, 2017, 08:51:01 PM
Fremantle squad for those interested:

B: R.Nyhuis, J.Hamling, L.Ryan

HB: E.Hughes, M.Johnson, D.Tucker

C: L.Weller, N.Fyfe, B.Hill

HF: H.Crozier, M.Taberner, H.Bennell

F: H.Ballantyne, C.McCarthy, B.Cox

Foll: S.Darcy, B.Hill, D.Mundy

I/C (from): N.Suban, G.Logue, C.Sutcliffe, J.Deluca, S.Kersten, D.Pearce, T.Sheridan


IN: H.Bennell, T.Sheridan, H.Crozier, R.Nyhuis

OUT: L.Neale

http://www.fremantlefc.com.au/news/2017-08-17/tabtouch-squad-bennell-among-four-ins
Title: Re: Official round 22 team vs Dockers
Post by: Dougeytherichmondfan on August 17, 2017, 08:55:36 PM
Soldo and Caddy out for mine.

In comes Graham and Lennon.
Title: Re: Official round 22 team vs Dockers
Post by: WilliamPowell on August 17, 2017, 08:58:20 PM
Soldo and Caddy out for mine.

In comes Graham and Lennon.

Agree with you ins

But I'd keep Soldo and drop Castagna
Title: Re: Official round 22 team vs Dockers
Post by: Tigeritis™©® on August 17, 2017, 09:09:06 PM
Soldo and Caddy out for mine.

In comes Graham and Lennon.

Agree with you ins

But I'd keep Soldo and drop Castagna
Soldo isn't to standard it's ridiculous that he's playing to be honest.
Title: Re: Official round 22 team vs Dockers
Post by: big tone on August 17, 2017, 09:45:26 PM
Soldo and Caddy out for mine.

In comes Graham and Lennon.

Agree with you ins

But I'd keep Soldo and drop Castagna
Soldo isn't to standard it's ridiculous that he's playing to be honest.
Yep he is miles off AFL level imo.
Good luck to him though, I hope he has a massive pre-season but if I'm honest I don't think he will ever get to the level of a decent AFL ruckman.
Title: Re: Official round 22 team vs Dockers
Post by: lamington on August 17, 2017, 09:59:08 PM
So no Miles....?
Title: Re: Official round 22 team vs Dockers
Post by: Diocletian on August 17, 2017, 10:01:35 PM
In before Lennon is withdrawn.....

Title: Re: Official round 22 team vs Dockers
Post by: big tone on August 17, 2017, 10:01:41 PM
Is there any chance either Houli, BEllis or Grigg gets dropped??
Title: Re: Official round 22 team vs Dockers
Post by: Diocletian on August 17, 2017, 10:03:29 PM
Do we have a new coach?

Title: Re: Official round 22 team vs Dockers
Post by: big tone on August 17, 2017, 10:04:20 PM
Do we have a new coach?
Good point....

stuff I hate those 3
Title: Re: Official round 22 team vs Dockers
Post by: Diocletian on August 17, 2017, 10:32:46 PM
I don't know how any coach with even the slightest clue could be truly confident heading into a finals campaign with both Houli & BEllis in their backline....
Title: Re: Official round 22 team vs Dockers
Post by: YellowandBlackBlood on August 17, 2017, 10:35:31 PM
Houli in particular this year has been putrid. Just never gets dropped. :banghead :banghead :banghead
Title: Re: Official round 22 team vs Dockers
Post by: Simonator on August 18, 2017, 06:24:03 AM
As much as it pains me I'd rather see nank play main ruck with Elton fwd and giving a chop out than this soldo/nank duo. 
Title: Re: Official round 22 team vs Dockers
Post by: Owl on August 18, 2017, 08:36:09 AM
It's good Soldo had a taste.  Needs to work on his general play stuff.  Not a bad option when resting up forward, proved he can take a mark and clunk one but just needs to build up confidence in how to use his body better.  Still raw. 
Title: Re: Official round 22 team vs Dockers
Post by: Beans on August 18, 2017, 09:12:53 AM
Soldo out, Graham in, and Townsend a replacement for Caddy because that role is exactly what he has been doing in the twos
Title: Re: Official round 22 team vs Dockers
Post by: pmac21 on August 18, 2017, 11:06:44 AM
Just had a look at the snapshot and we can't beat them at the G but been successful at Domain stadium.
If Harley Bennell kicks the winning goal that will be it for me,....ha ha

Tigers by 12 goals
Title: Re: Official round 22 team vs Dockers
Post by: Simonator on August 18, 2017, 02:16:59 PM
Had a dream Ben Lennon kicked the opener
Title: Re: Official round 22 team vs Dockers
Post by: eliminator on August 18, 2017, 04:39:17 PM
On AFL website saying

"Docker blow

Fremantle has been forced to withdraw forward Shane Kersten for Sunday's clash against Richmond due to a groin injury.

 

Veteran defender Garrick Ibbotson has come into the Dockers' 25-man squad.

 

Final teams for Sunday's games will be named at 5pm AEST."
Title: Re: Official round 22 team vs Dockers
Post by: the claw on August 18, 2017, 04:58:08 PM
reckon we could have made 8 changes and all for the better.
Would have liked to see at least 6 though.
Out - Castagna - B Ellis - C Ellis- Houli - Grigg - Soldo -  Caddy.
Ins - Bolton - Markov - Miles -  Moore  - Graham - elton-   Townsend or Lennon

Butler, Rioli, McIntosh, and Edwards   could all just as easily be in the gun imo.
Houli and B Ellis gone never to be seen again besides how many sml med defenders do we need in the one team. Vlastuin, Broad, Grimes, McIntosh  there is no need for the two weak pricks.

Castagna has been poor swap him for Bolton.
Markov  for the girls blouse B Ellis. 
C Ellis is no where near it give a genuinely better inside mid the gig in miles.
Bring in a badly needed tall fwd for a small defender  that we dont need and have too many of. Moore for Houli.
Bring in a ball winning mid who aint soft and works both ways for another weak prick in Grigg.
Elton for Soldo allowing nankervis to go back to what he does best and we play a genuine tall fwd who can give a chop out in ruck.
Townsend or Lennon for the injured Caddy townsend would give us a midfield option and i prefer to play the three smalls in the fwd half.

FB: Grimes - Astbury - Vlastuin
HB: Markov - Rance - Broad

R: Nankervis - Cotchin - Prestia
C: McIntosh - Martin - Lambert

HF: Butler - Riewoldt - Rioli
FF: Bolton - Moore - Townsend or Lennon

Int: Miles - Graham - Edwards - Elton.
Title: Re: Official round 22 team vs Dockers
Post by: Simonator on August 18, 2017, 05:04:29 PM
Graham Townsend and markov all in for soldo c Ellis and caddy.

Like the changes
Title: Re: Official round 22 team vs Dockers
Post by: Simonator on August 18, 2017, 05:04:59 PM
Lennon must be gone though
Title: Re: Official round 22 team vs Dockers
Post by: pmac21 on August 18, 2017, 05:09:50 PM
Yeah Lennon and Miles will be gone at year's end.  A shame as they have something to offer.  Hope they stay on.
Title: Re: Official round 22 team vs Dockers
Post by: one-eyed on August 18, 2017, 05:18:45 PM
The Round 22 Richmond Team

B: Rance, Astbury, Grimes
HB: Houli, Broad, B. Ellis
C: Prestia, Edwards, Vlastuin
HF: Cotchin, Rioli, Castagna
F: Riewoldt, Lambert, Butler
R: Nankervis, Grigg, Martin
IC: Townsend, McIntosh, Markov, Graham
Em: Lennon, C. Ellis, Soldo

In: Townsend, Markov, Graham
Out: Caddy – hamstring, C. Ellis – omitted, Soldo – omitted

New: Jack Graham, 19, 181cm, 83 kg inside midfielder from North Adelaide (SANFL). Richmond’s second pick (No. 53 overall) in the 2016 AFL National Draft.

Milestone: Dylan Grimes, 100 AFL games

http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2017-08-18/round-22-team-announcement
Title: Re: Official round 22 team vs Dockers
Post by: one-eyed on August 18, 2017, 05:48:09 PM
Fremantle team for those interested:

B: R.Nyhuis, J.Hamling, L.Ryan
HB: E.Hughes, M.Johnson, D.Tucker
C: L.Weller, N.Fyfe, B.Hill
HF: H.Crozier, M.Taberner, H.Bennell
F: H.Ballantyne, C.McCarthy, B.Cox
Foll: S.Darcy, S.Hill, D.Mundy
I/C: N.Suban, G.Logue, C.Sutcliffe, J.Deluca


In: H.Bennell, R.Nyhuis, H.Crozier

Out: L.Neale (knee), S.Kersten (groin), D.Pearce

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2017-08-18/new-tiger-gets-the-nod-st-nick-returns
Title: Re: Official round 22 team vs Dockers
Post by: 🏅Dooks on August 18, 2017, 06:00:16 PM
If we don't smack that team by at least 7 goals we are poomen
Title: Re: Official round 22 team vs Dockers
Post by: one-eyed on August 18, 2017, 06:14:16 PM
Changes from the round 8 clash:

Richmond - 5 changes.

In: Broad, Prestia, Vlastuin, Townsend, Graham.

Out: Batchelor, Caddy (inj), C.Ellis, Elton, Short.


Freo - 10 changes.

In: Stephen Hill, Ryan Nyhuis, Luke Ryan, Harley Bennell, Hayden Ballantyne, Brennan Cox, Sean Darcy, Nick Suban, Griffin Logue, Joshua Deluca.

Out: Connor Blakely (25 disposals last time), Brady Grey, Garrick Ibbotson, Shane Kersten (inj, 2 goals), Ed Langdon (22 disp.), Lachie Neale (inj, 23 disp.), Danyle Pearce (22 disp., 1 goal), Aaron Sandilands (35 hitouts), Lee Spurr (18 disp.), Michael Walters (38 disp.).

http://www.fremantlefc.com.au/news/2017-08-18/tabtouch-22-
http://afltables.com/afl/stats/games/2017/081420170514.html
Title: Re: Official round 22 team vs Dockers
Post by: Diocletian on August 18, 2017, 06:24:29 PM
Have to wonder if Halfstep's actually just being malicious towards Lennon now...

gonna play this week...oh look
gonna play this week...oh look
gonna play this week...yeah nah
gonna play this week...psych!
gonna play this week...haha sucked in!
gonna play this week...haha sucked in again!
gonna play this week...haha sucked in again you stuffing loser!





Title: Re: Official round 22 team vs Dockers
Post by: 🏅Dooks on August 18, 2017, 06:34:19 PM
Have to wonder if Halfstep's actually just being malicious towards Lennon now....

Beyond logic. And no explanation from the club.

One naturally begins to speculate about a high draft pick kcking bags but keeps being overlooked
Title: Re: Official round 22 team vs Dockers
Post by: Hard Roar Tiger on August 18, 2017, 07:47:51 PM
Have to wonder if Halfstep's actually just being malicious towards Lennon now...

gonna play this week...oh look
gonna play this week...oh look
gonna play this week...yeah nah
gonna play this week...psych!
gonna play this week...haha sucked in!
gonna play this week...haha sucked in again!
gonna play this week...haha sucked in again you stuffing loser!


I'm not a massive wrap for Lennon but it seems like he was exactly what we missed and Geelong had last week. Not sure why we wouldn't give him a go given our woes in front of goal
Title: Re: Official round 22 team vs Dockers
Post by: The Machine on August 18, 2017, 08:30:23 PM
Like the changes this week. Nank plays his best footy one out and loves the responsibility of being the only ruck. Townsend deserves his spot but i only hope he plays mid and rests forward. He has played this role most of the season extremely well. Good luck to Graham...think he will have 20+. I like Markov and happy to see him back in. I would play Lennon and drop Butler.  :gotigers
Title: Re: Official round 22 team vs Dockers
Post by: torch on August 18, 2017, 11:00:50 PM
Did anyone else notice that when Graham was announced, the first player to get up and just go through the door without congratulating him was, Anthony Miles.

Watch the video.

Graham not the issue.

Miles should be playing as well as Lennon.

Markov better not play as a HF!
Title: Re: Official round 22 team vs Dockers
Post by: big tone on August 19, 2017, 08:09:49 AM
Carlton as poo as they are drafted Grigg at pick 19 but it only took them 4 years to work out he was a pootruck AFL average footballer that would long take you so far. Slow, poo kick, scared, soft footballer, but the RFC are still yet to work it out. WTF!
150 odd games in our jumper is a stuffing disgrace. FHO
And come finals time he will let us down again.

Finals are a tight, in close, contested battle and when you have players like Grigg, Houli and BEllis, you are playing 3 down before you start. Those 3 crumble under pressure as they have shown for a long time and there is nothing more sure they will do it again.

We could probably carry one of them in a finals campaign but there is no chance we can carry all three. Dimma will never drop any of them as he prefers to drop kids with upside that could actually make a difference short term and long term.
How Short is not in our side over these 3 is a disgrace.
Title: Re: Official round 22 team vs Dockers
Post by: The Machine on August 19, 2017, 08:18:33 AM
Did anyone else notice that when Graham was announced, the first player to get up and just go through the door without congratulating him was, Anthony Miles.

Watch the video.

Graham not the issue.

Miles should be playing as well as Lennon.

Markov better not play as a HF!


Yep - straight out the door :thumbsdown
Title: Re: Official round 22 team vs Dockers
Post by: Slipper on August 19, 2017, 11:46:11 AM
Miles did clap along with the other players when the selection was first announced and did look over a Graham a few times in support.

I'd be gutted if I was him, but I don't think it was bad as people think.

Regardless though, I think Miles' papers have been stamped.

I  just don't understand why. there has to me more to this than meets the eye.
Title: Re: Official round 22 team vs Dockers
Post by: tony_montana on August 19, 2017, 02:12:30 PM
Really like the ins - we've been playing 2 short for the past several weeks with CEllis and Soldo in - although Soldo has served his purpose in giving Nank a much needed rest from the ruck, should be fresh as a daisy now.
Title: Re: Official round 22 team vs Dockers
Post by: Yeahright on August 19, 2017, 02:41:03 PM
In: Townsend, Markov, Graham


Townsend and Markov will play 90+% forward while Graham will be chucked onto the wing and the flanks. You just know they won't play where they've been playing good footy in the twos...

There may also be a late change...
Title: Re: Official round 22 team vs Dockers
Post by: the claw on August 20, 2017, 09:52:57 AM
lol we cant kick goals and not one fwd bought in.
Title: Re: Official round 22 team vs Dockers
Post by: MintOnLamb on August 20, 2017, 10:30:56 AM
Yeah Lennon and Miles will be gone at year's end.  A shame as they have something to offer.  Hope they stay on.
Why would they stay on?
Our centre and in ball balance is better with Miles in IMO.

Lennon, poor bastard, it took the tumblers a long time to click in for Ben, but now IT seems no matter what he does he is fingered. A real pity as he is a good kick, better than most on our list, and would go well in our forward mix.
Title: Re: Official round 22 team vs Dockers
Post by: Diocletian on August 20, 2017, 11:32:08 AM
Halfstep prefers the likes of Grigg sending hack kicks, bombs  & helicopters into the forward 50 over Lennon's pinpoint delivery.....makes us more unpredictable....plus behinds keep the opposition locked in and his accurate kicking for goal would only send the ball all the way back to the centre square..... :shh
Title: Re: Official round 22 team vs Dockers
Post by: eliminator on August 20, 2017, 12:41:56 PM
I like the inclusion of Graham. Both Markov and Townsend deserve a game in particular Townsend he has played well all year in VFL side. Lennon should have been given a game. His form deserves it. He is a good kick and is clever. I agree with other posters here who have stated that his papers appeared to have been stamped. The side is a better side when Miles is playing. I hope that Miles stays but I doubt it with the way he is being treated by Hardwick.
Title: Re: Official round 22 team vs Dockers
Post by: Chuck17 on August 20, 2017, 01:20:16 PM
Miles did clap along with the other players when the selection was first announced and did look over a Graham a few times in support.

I'd be gutted if I was him, but I don't think it was bad as people think.

Regardless though, I think Miles' papers have been stamped.

I  just don't understand why. there has to me more to this than meets the eye.

The wise word is it's a personal vendetta
Title: Re: Official round 22 team vs Dockers
Post by: big tone on August 20, 2017, 03:08:29 PM
I hope Markov plays back today and they move Houli up the ground to maybe a wing or even half forward. I could almost live with that.

And I hope they give Graham a fair crack in the middle.

I want to see us play like earlier in the year when we moved the footy really quickly and kicked the ball long. We have been to handball happy of late.

We need a bit of a freshen up and imo by making a few positional changes that can help. A really good win today and kicking a decent score will build up our confidence for the games to come.

Manic pressure all over the ground wins you games and we showed that earlier this year, we just need to get back to it.
Title: Re: Official round 22 team vs Dockers
Post by: Yeahright on August 20, 2017, 04:52:04 PM
Townsend and Markov will play 90+% forward while Graham will be chucked onto the wing and the flanks. You just know they won't play where they've been playing good footy in the twos...

3 for 3 at the start :shh