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Football => Richmond Rant => Topic started by: one-eyed on September 04, 2017, 02:51:35 PM
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A key to us finally breaking our winning finals drought is having enough players who rise to a higher level in finals.
Which Tiger player(s) do you think can rise to the occasion under finals pressure?
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Not Houli. :shh
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Unlikely to be Grigg
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It's really to be asked of the new kids.
Won't be Jack
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leaders must stand up.
For me Miles plays and will stand up
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and now Dustin owes.
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Grimes :shh
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Lambert
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Benny :thumbsup
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Funny & highly unlikely - whichever one you mean....
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Lambert
:thumbsup
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Big one from Jack for me.
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Dusty
Rance
Lambert
Prestia
Caddy
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I am going with Nank.
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I'm going to go all out and say that our much maligned captain will have a fantastic finals series.
The Dookster will have to change his tune then.... :shh
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Nank Prestia Lambert
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Astbury
Jack
Lambert
Nank
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Alex Rance
Dusty Martin
Jack
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I'm going to go all out and say that our much maligned captain will have a fantastic finals series.
The Dookster will have to change his tune then.... :shh
:pray we need him to.
In fact all leaders should be bog and the rest should and will follow.
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Cotchin....has had 3 poor finals.....reckon he will smash it :gotigers
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Cotchin....has had 3 poor finals.....reckon he will smash it :gotigers
Rubbish ..
if you think he was poor against Carlton, give up
Was super
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Cotchin....has had 3 poor finals.....reckon he will smash it :gotigers
Rubbish ..
if you think he was poor against Carlton, give up
Was super
i concur on this.
def the north game, but not the carlton one and aside from the toss stuff up he was okay in the port loss also.
Jack i think has failed in all 3, and i dont count those gimmy goals he got in the port loss when both teams were going through the mptions waiting for the siren to sound.
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Riewoldt was one our better players against North I thought...so far the blokes that have stood up in finals when the heat was on are:
2013 - Cotchin, Vlastuin, Maric
2014 - n/a
2015 - Riewoldt, Miles, Rance
For all the crap that gets thrown at Cotchin.....our much-vaunted million-dollar man is yet to stand up in a final when it's truly mattered... :shh
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I thought Martin was just about our best player vs Carlton in the first half. Was taking risks and trying to break lines
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Riewoldt was one our better players against North I thought...so far the blokes that have stood up in finals when the heat was on are:
2013 - Cotchin, Vlastuin, Maric
2014 - n/a
2015 - Riewoldt, Miles, Rance
For all the crap that gets thrown at Cotchin.....our much-vaunted million-dollar man is yet to stand up in a final when it's truly mattered... :shh
Was pretty decent in 2013, very good in a belting in 2014. Not great in '15, but wouldn't say he did a Cotchin.
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I don't count his front-running first half in 2013 ...nowhere to be seen once Carlton stopped being witches hats & started getting on top....
He was woeful against Port, particularly in the first half -as was the entire side- and that's when the match was lost.... he was even getting cleaned up by Jake Neade ffs...
Yep - well below average in 2015....
Nope - fact is, it's Cotchin 1/3, Martin 0/3..... :shh
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No its not, thats just your opinion
and its wrong
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He was woeful against Port, particularly in the first half -as was the entire side- and that's when the match was lost.... he was even getting cleaned up by Jake Neade ffs...
Woeful v Port? Didn't he have 30 odd?
Not saying he's a bonafide performer but I'd give him 2/3 - when he was a half a million dollar player. We shall see on friday night if he's worth the pay cheque.
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He was woeful against Port, particularly in the first half -as was the entire side- and that's when the match was lost.... he was even getting cleaned up by Jake Neade ffs...
Woeful v Port? Didn't he have 30 odd?
Not saying he's a bonafide performer but I'd give him 2/3 - when he was a half a million dollar player. We shall see on friday night if he's worth the pay cheque.
Thats the million dollar question :shh
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He was woeful against Port, particularly in the first half -as was the entire side- and that's when the match was lost.... he was even getting cleaned up by Jake Neade ffs...
Woeful v Port? Didn't he have 30 odd?
Yes was more like a Grigg or Bellis 30 possession game...did stuff all with most of them and didn't influence the match in any way..
Again - standing up in a final is when you either help win it or if not, you at least perform under finals pressure when the chips are down and the match is still in the balance. Martin has yet to do this, Cotchin has at least once. :shh
No its not, thats just your opinion
and its wrong
No it's fact and I'm right. :shh
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He was woeful against Port, particularly in the first half -as was the entire side- and that's when the match was lost.... he was even getting cleaned up by Jake Neade ffs...
Woeful v Port? Didn't he have 30 odd?
Yes was more like a Grigg or Bellis 30 possession game...did stuff all with most of them and didn't influence the match in any way..
Again - standing up in a final is when you either help win it or if not, you at least perform under finals pressure when the chips are down and the match is still in the balance. Martin has yet to do this, Cotchin has at least once. :shh
I was there that day and remember walking away thinking at least Dusty played okay, broke some packs open. Have not watched the replay since though. Its a moot point - he's 2ce the player now that he was back then - lets see him do it!
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Easier to say which players wont step up in finals based on the 3 previous ones:
1. Grigg
2. Houli
3. Ellis
4. Cotchin
5. Edwards
Caddy had a very poor record in finals at the Cats and if we had Deledio still I'd put that pretender in the same group also.
Hopefully all of the rest step up because we'll need them to.
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He was woeful against Port, particularly in the first half -as was the entire side- and that's when the match was lost.... he was even getting cleaned up by Jake Neade ffs...
Woeful v Port? Didn't he have 30 odd?
Yes was more like a Grigg or Bellis 30 possession game...did stuff all with most of them and didn't influence the match in any way..
Again - standing up in a final is when you either help win it or if not, you at least perform under finals pressure when the chips are down and the match is still in the balance. Martin has yet to do this, Cotchin has at least once. :shh
I was there that day and remember walking away thinking at least Dusty played okay, broke some packs open. Have not watched the replay since though. Its a moot point - he's 2ce the player now that he was back then - lets see him do it!
Yes but was that in the first half when Port were smashing us or the second half when it was all over bar the shouting? Because what I mainly remember from Martin in the first half was a lot of fumbling, turnovers and getting run down by a midget. IMO Deledio was our best player after half-time but really, so what... it was all too little too late and as meaningless a Jack's junk time goals & Griffiths 70-metre effort right at the end.
I do agree he's gone up several levels as a player since then and hopefully he can start to rectify the situation beginning on Friday night. :gotigers
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Easier to say which players wont step up in finals based on the 3 previous ones:
1. Grigg
2. Houli
3. Ellis
4. Cotchin
5. Edwards
Caddy had a very poor record in finals at the Cats and if we had Deledio still I'd put that pretender in the same group also.
Hopefully all of the rest step up because we'll need them to.
I would be happy if Cotch played like he did in the 2013 EF.
26 disposals and two goals, one a cracking left foot snap and the other a "captains" goal around about half time from a set shot.
But anyway carry on with your misinformation
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Easier to say which players wont step up in finals based on the 3 previous ones:
1. Grigg
2. Houli
3. Ellis
4. Cotchin
5. Edwards
Caddy had a very poor record in finals at the Cats and if we had Deledio still I'd put that pretender in the same group also.
Hopefully all of the rest step up because we'll need them to.
I would be happy if Cotch played like he did in the 2013 EF.
26 disposals and two goals, one a cracking left foot snap and the other a "captains" goal around about half time from a set shot.
But anyway carry on with your misinformation
Yeh, how'd he go in the 2nd half though?
Also missing in action against Nth.
I love the guy but he simply can't shake a hard tag and that's what he will get Friday night.
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Easier to say which players wont step up in finals based on the 3 previous ones:
1. Grigg
2. Houli
3. Ellis
4. Cotchin
5. Edwards
Caddy had a very poor record in finals at the Cats and if we had Deledio still I'd put that pretender in the same group also.
Hopefully all of the rest step up because we'll need them to.
I would be happy if Cotch played like he did in the 2013 EF.
26 disposals and two goals, one a cracking left foot snap and the other a "captains" goal around about half time from a set shot.
But anyway carry on with your misinformation
Yeh, how'd he go in the 2nd half though?
Usual, ie he busted his nuts to cover the pooty players in our team
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Easier to say which players wont step up in finals based on the 3 previous ones:
1. Grigg
2. Houli
3. Ellis
4. Cotchin
5. Edwards
Caddy had a very poor record in finals at the Cats and if we had Deledio still I'd put that pretender in the same group also.
Hopefully all of the rest step up because we'll need them to.
I would be happy if Cotch played like he did in the 2013 EF.
26 disposals and two goals, one a cracking left foot snap and the other a "captains" goal around about half time from a set shot.
But anyway carry on with your misinformation
Yeh, how'd he go in the 2nd half though?
Was only our best player.....
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Easier to say which players wont step up in finals based on the 3 previous ones:
1. Grigg
2. Houli
3. Ellis
4. Cotchin
5. Edwards
Caddy had a very poor record in finals at the Cats and if we had Deledio still I'd put that pretender in the same group also.
Hopefully all of the rest step up because we'll need them to.
I would be happy if Cotch played like he did in the 2013 EF.
26 disposals and two goals, one a cracking left foot snap and the other a "captains" goal around about half time from a set shot.
But anyway carry on with your misinformation
Id be happy if he pointed with the wind, handed over responsibilities to Rance and got more than 9 possessions.
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It doesn't really matter who may have played ok in any one final.
It's who stands up when the team is challenged. Which player will say, pee off! I'm not going to take this crap anymore!!!! Winners do this and the facts remain that none of them are winners.
So cut the crap and let's hope they show us who can get us that win. I wouldn't give a toss if it's helicopters Grigg or scardy cat Houli as long as they win the game.
Until then they're all just pretenders fooling us all.
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One things for sure, this will define some of our leaders. If they can't dominate/step up in finals there will be an asterisk next to their names.
We all believe that Rance is one of, if not the best fullbacks we've seen, he will need to step up and dominate in finals to confirm this imo, same goes for Dusty to truly cement his place as one of the top 2 players in the comp.
I'd love to see Cotch play on the edge, that's when he's at his best. Jack just needs to kick the goals when the game demands our best fwd needs to.
For mine this cats game is the one that can make or break this footy club. Win this and the monkeys off the back, lose this and its back to same ol same ol. We will need to be at our absolute best to win this, the cats don't give free rides, if we want to take the next step as a footy club we are going to have to earn it against this mob that know all about pressure and big games.
It's all before us, are we good enough? Are we strong enough?
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Unlikely to be Grigg
Kicks like a Geelong player :(
Maybe someone will give us a 3rd rounder
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Easier to say which players wont step up in finals based on the 3 previous ones:
1. Grigg
2. Houli
3. Ellis
4. Cotchin
5. Edwards
Caddy had a very poor record in finals at the Cats and if we had Deledio still I'd put that pretender in the same group also.
Hopefully all of the rest step up because we'll need them to.
I would be happy if Cotch played like he did in the 2013 EF.
26 disposals and two goals, one a cracking left foot snap and the other a "captains" goal around about half time from a set shot.
But anyway carry on with your misinformation
Yeh, how'd he go in the 2nd half though?
Was only our best player.....
Did anyone notice whether Cotch had a quiet spell in last weeks game?
Doesn't have to be a quarter, it can be just for a few minutes
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Easier to say which players wont step up in finals based on the 3 previous ones:
1. Grigg
2. Houli
3. Ellis
4. Cotchin
5. Edwards
Caddy had a very poor record in finals at the Cats and if we had Deledio still I'd put that pretender in the same group also.
Hopefully all of the rest step up because we'll need them to.
I would be happy if Cotch played like he did in the 2013 EF.
26 disposals and two goals, one a cracking left foot snap and the other a "captains" goal around about half time from a set shot.
But anyway carry on with your misinformation
Yeh, how'd he go in the 2nd half though?
Was only our best player.....
Did anyone notice whether Cotch had a quiet spell in last weeks game?
Doesn't have to be a quarter, it can be just for a few minutes
Did cotchin have a quiet period or was he on the bench :huh
He was off the ground a lot
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Players who suprised me and stood up (or exceeded expectations):
Houli
Caddy
Broad
Also thought McIntosh was okay.
Prestia much better than expected.
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Caddy and Prestia were both sensational. There have been times this season I have thought "meh" ....but they were both super impressive when it counted .
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Easier to say which players wont step up in finals based on the 3 previous ones:
1. Grigg
2. Houli
3. Ellis
4. Cotchin
5. Edwards
Caddy had a very poor record in finals at the Cats and if we had Deledio still I'd put that pretender in the same group also.
Hopefully all of the rest step up because we'll need them to.
I would be happy if Cotch played like he did in the 2013 EF.
26 disposals and two goals, one a cracking left foot snap and the other a "captains" goal around about half time from a set shot.
But anyway carry on with your misinformation
Yeh, how'd he go in the 2nd half though?
Was only our best player.....
Did anyone notice whether Cotch had a quiet spell in last weeks game?
Doesn't have to be a quarter, it can be just for a few minutes
To be fair i thought he went completely missing at half time
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Easier to say which players wont step up in finals based on the 3 previous ones:
1. Grigg
2. Houli
3. Ellis
4. Cotchin
5. Edwards
Caddy had a very poor record in finals at the Cats and if we had Deledio still I'd put that pretender in the same group also.
Hopefully all of the rest step up because we'll need them to.
I would be happy if Cotch played like he did in the 2013 EF.
26 disposals and two goals, one a cracking left foot snap and the other a "captains" goal around about half time from a set shot.
But anyway carry on with your misinformation
Yeh, how'd he go in the 2nd half though?
Was only our best player.....
Did anyone notice whether Cotch had a quiet spell in last weeks game?
Doesn't have to be a quarter, it can be just for a few minutes
To be fair i thought he went completely missing at half time
That's outrageous surely he could have been doing something