One-Eyed Richmond Forum
Football => Richmond Rant => Topic started by: one-eyed on February 21, 2018, 01:39:30 PM
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On now.
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Snippets:
* Jack Dyer Stand may have to go to upgrade/expand our facilities at Punt Rd. Benny said "It's one of the options".
* Despite Dusty's re-signing, we still have the capacity to get involved in free agency if a player that fits our needs becomes available and wants to come to Richmond. Benny wouldn't comment about Tom Lynch when asked specifically by Andy Maher if we were interested. Benny just said Lynch is a contracted player and that sort of thing is a long way off (end of the season) and that 17 other clubs would want him.
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*Expects to go back-to-back this year and would regard anything less as a complete failure.
Yes! Benny! #standards :clapping :clapping
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Snippets:
* Jack Dyer Stand may have to go to upgrade/expand our facilities at Punt Rd. Benny said "It's one of the options
No no no don't like this at all
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Unfortunately it's the only way to improve the facilities.
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Here's Benny Gale's full interview:
SEN Afternoons - Club Corner - Richmond CEO Brendon Gale and Marketing Manager Ben Jenkins
AUDIO: https://player.whooshkaa.com/episode/?id=175214
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Hmmm
I thought the Jack Dyer stand was heritage listed :huh3
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I forgot about that small detail.....
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Hmmm
I thought the Jack Dyer stand was heritage listed :huh3
But it can still be moved
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Snippets:
* Jack Dyer Stand may have to go to upgrade/expand our facilities at Punt Rd. Benny said "It's one of the options
No no no don't like this at all
Progress needs to happen, we cant be left behind. We need to create space and if the JDS has to go then it has to go. We need to
keep Punt Rd relevant. We need to upgrade it again.
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Heard we'll be shipping down one the stands they were going to demolish up in Sydney as a replacement.... :shh
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Hmmm
I thought the Jack Dyer stand was heritage listed :huh3
I am certain it isnt
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Hmmm
I thought the Jack Dyer stand was heritage listed :huh3
I am certain it isnt
I didn't think it was either. The ground has obvious benefits as a VFL/AFLW/AFLX venue down the track but needs a Junction Oval like upgrade
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Has an official RIP to the Benny Fail moniker been given?
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Honestly AFLW you have to be stuffing kidding me
AFL using their brand to try and make something pathetic relevant, stuffing sad not worth a packet of twisties that tripe!
And AFLX for that matter :banghead
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Look, I like Punt Road but it is antiquated.
Leave it as it is and let Melbourne, Essendon and the MCC use it, and give us the MCG. The biggest ground deserves the biggest club as a sole tenant.
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Richmond to consider all options for upgrading Punt Road Oval facilities including demolishing Jack Dyer Stand
February 21, 2018 4:50pm
Max Laughton
FOX SPORTS
RICHMOND will consider all options, including demolishing the Jack Dyer Stand at Punt Road Oval, as it looks into ways to grow the facilities at their spiritual home.
A number of AFL clubs have recently built or are planning to build massive new facilities, with Gold Coast and Fremantle both moving last year and Hawthorn looking to move from Waverley Park to Dingley.
But with the Tigers intrinsically linked to Punt Road, CEO Brendon Gale and the club are looking at every possibility to grow their headquarters.
While crediting their inner-city location as a massive reason for their success, Gale told SEN’s Afternoons the club is “landlocked”, forcing it to use “every square centimetre”.
That double-edged sword of a prime location with a lack of room to grow means the Jack Dyer Stand, first built in 1914, extended in 1927 and nearly burned down in the mid-1970s, could be on the table for removal.
“There’d be a range of different options you’d have to explore. (That) could well be,” Gale said.
“If that were the case, there’d be extensive consultation, et cetera.”
Gale explained that the club is considering a “whole range of different options” for future development, with the preference being developing Punt Road.
“There’s the north end behind the goals and we’re finalising a master plan at the moment. With VFL and women’s football, with our community programming, right now it’s under great pressure. And so we’re looking at growing that, growing our footprint,” he said.
“20, 30 years down the track, I do think about facilities. We are landlocked. Once we build out, we can’t build any more. So you’re thinking of those sorts of scenarios but it’s such an important part of our brand.”
The location is simply too good to give up for the Tigers, with Gale believing it helps both with fan support and in recruiting.
“To be honest, it’s the location of the club, our proximity to the MCG and our access to Richmond station that I think underpins the growth and the way we’ve held our numbers over the years,” he said.
“We’re such an open and accessible club to visit and be part of and it’s such a huge competitive advantage. It’s an advantage for attracting talent — it’s inner-city, cosmopolitan Richmond, access to shops, cafes, universities, the city.”
https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/richmond-to-consider-all-options-for-upgrading-punt-road-oval-facilities-including-demolishing-jack-dyer-stand/news-story/bf5edb57c7ee4e9146c73506dd351173
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As you all know, I was away from this forum for a fair while, I reckon during that time, I remember Richmond releasing plans for
a full redevelopment of Punt Road. Does anyone know what is happening with those plans. I even remember pictures being released
of what Punt Road would like after a redevelopment.
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As you all know, I was away from this forum for a fair while, I reckon during that time, I remember Richmond releasing plans for
a full redevelopment of Punt Road. Does anyone know what is happening with those plans. I even remember pictures being released
of what Punt Road would like after a redevelopment.
Ramps, I remember this article but I can't recall any specific plans (?).
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2017-07-13/punt-road-pitch-tigers-want-upgrade-dollars.mobileapp
According to Benny Gale on the radio last week, the Club is still going through all its options regarding the upgrade. One of which is removing the Jack Dyer Stand as we're "land-locked" by Punt Rd and Brunton Avenue.
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As you all know, I was away from this forum for a fair while, I reckon during that time, I remember Richmond releasing plans for
a full redevelopment of Punt Road. Does anyone know what is happening with those plans. I even remember pictures being released
of what Punt Road would like after a redevelopment.
Ramps, I remember this article but I can't recall any specific plans (?).
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2017-07-13/punt-road-pitch-tigers-want-upgrade-dollars.mobileapp
According to Benny Gale on the radio last week, the Club is still going through all its options regarding the upgrade. One of which is removing the Jack Dyer Stand as we're "land-locked" by Punt Rd and Brunton Avenue.
Aye, land-locked we are, on all four sides, but could we use the space we have any better? If the JD Stand was jacked up & moved 40 mtrs up towards the Yarra Park boundary we could move the playing surface up & build a grandstand at the Richmond Station end of PRO. The JD Stand may not have any heritage status of any note, but it is a significant piece of club history which should be retained if possible. We lose a small car park but gain a new grandstand!
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As you all know, I was away from this forum for a fair while, I reckon during that time, I remember Richmond releasing plans for
a full redevelopment of Punt Road. Does anyone know what is happening with those plans. I even remember pictures being released
of what Punt Road would like after a redevelopment.
Ramps, I remember this article but I can't recall any specific plans (?).
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2017-07-13/punt-road-pitch-tigers-want-upgrade-dollars.mobileapp
According to Benny Gale on the radio last week, the Club is still going through all its options regarding the upgrade. One of which is removing the Jack Dyer Stand as we're "land-locked" by Punt Rd and Brunton Avenue.
It will be interesting to see what they do. I personally think the JDS should go and a new facility put in its place which could be extended towards the punt road side of the ground towards the richmond station side. It would be good to know what facilities are
needed now as well, when the club did the last one, which in all honesty wasnt that long ago in development terms, why didnt they
make it bigger or higher then?
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we need a stand with at least 30,000 viewing capacity, for our VFL AND AFLW teams, great little revenue earner and we would fill it. Probably re-locate JD Stand and build around it and over it.
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we need a stand with at least 30,000 viewing capacity, for our VFL AND AFLW teams, great little revenue earner and we would fill it. Probably re-locate JD Stand and build around it and over it.
I think player facility upgrades and office upgrades should be the priority. I cant see 30,000 people attending a VFL or AFLW match.
10,000-15,000 seats would just about see it out I reckon.
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we need a stand with at least 30,000 viewing capacity, for our VFL AND AFLW teams, great little revenue earner and we would fill it. Probably re-locate JD Stand and build around it and over it.
I think player facility upgrades and office upgrades should be the priority. I cant see 30,000 people attending a VFL or AFLW match.
10,000-15,000 seats would just about see it out I reckon.
We would get it easily if we had the space, think big, you dont wont to be looking to upgrade 5-10 years down the track because of small think to begin with.
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Jack Dyer Stand may go in $60m Punt Road Oval redevelopment
By Caroline Wilson
The Age
7 September 2018 — 3:09pm
A $60 million redevelopment of the Punt Road Oval, which would almost certainly lead to the removal of the Jack Dyer Stand and cement the Tigers’ long-term future next door to the MCG, looks set to be unveiled before the forthcoming state and federal elections.
Richmond’s emergence as a 100,000-member AFL powerhouse club heading towards their second successive preliminary final comes as Tiger bosses are lobbying intensively behind the scenes with a range of senior state and federal government figures to fund a new football hub for the club’s increasingly diverse gender and multicultural profile.
The redevelopment involving a three-way funding split between the federal and state governments and the club would change the face of of one of Melbourne’s best-known and most utilised corners and play a role in the proposed radical overhaul of pedestrian traffic between the MCG and Richmond station.
Underpinning their bid is that by 2020 the Tigers will house not only AFL and VFL teams at Punt Road but also their AFLW and VFLW teams and the club’s recently introduced Wheelchair team, which was defeated by Collingwood last weekend in the first Victorian Wheelchair League grand final.
It has emerged that 2017 premiership player Bachar Houli and his Islamic Academy, which is to be based at Punt Road and soon to receive a major funding boost from the federal government, have played a pivotal role in the Punt Road plans.
One of the last remaining VFL grandstands, the Dyer Stand was built in 1914 and after a number of renovations was named in honour of the Australian football Hall of Famer "Captain Blood" in 1998.
While not officially heritage listed, the stand has become a significant landmark.
When Tigers CEO Brendon Gale first mooted pulling down the stand earlier this season he conceded widespread consultation including with Dyer’s family would precede any final decision.
Officially tight-lipped regarding the redevelopment, Richmond have handed detailed drawings and proposals to both sides of politics and across several departments both in Canberra and Spring Street.
The redevelopment would see:
* The 104-year-old Jack Dyer Stand removed to make way for new seating, change rooms, community and elite training facilities.
* Expanded sporting amenities to house Richmond’s AFL, VFL, AFLW, VFLW and recently introduced team in the Victorian Wheelchair Football League.
* Spectator capacity lifted from 5000 to 8000 with new terracing around Punt Road’s outer wing, under the scoreboard and the north end goals.
* New lighting to allow for regular VFL and AFLW night fixtures.
* The expansion of the current training facility, which would also make room for Richmond’s expanding Korin Gamadji Institute and elite athlete and sport science educational partnership with Swinburne.
* Accommodation for students attending the Melbourne Indigenous Transition School.
* A facelift for the Swinburne Centre, which would see the unsightly and impractical small windows significantly enlarged.
Under Richmond’s proposal, the costing applications would include $20 million in Commonwealth funding and $20 million from the Victorian government. Richmond have pledged to cover the final third of that costing in the hope that the AFL would contribute $5 million.
While the plans, understood to have received strong support from the AFL and Richmond’s local member and Victorian planning minister Richard Wynne, are not wedded to the removal of the iconic Dyer Stand, that is the club’s strong preference.
Keeping the stand would come at a multimillion-dollar extra cost.
A total of 5000 supporters squeezed into Punt Road last September for the club’s final training session before the grand final and at last Saturday night’s televised VFL final there was restricted seating and the lighting fail during the third quarter. Under the new plans, seating would increase to 5000 with standing room for a further 3000.
With Richmond overlooked in the $500 million sport facilities funding package unveiled five months ago by Premier Daniel Andrews, a disappointed Gale and his team refocused their efforts towards a wide range of state and federal government departments.
Gale and his lieutenants, Michael Stahl and Simon Matthews, have worked closely with both sides of federal and state politics in the hope that Richmond’s sporting, social, multicultural and community achievements will attract pre-election commitments.
Earlier this year, Matthews led a Richmond delegation to the United Nations in New York where the Tigers became the first sporting club to present to the UN Permanent Forum on Indigenous issues, underlining the work of the KGI Institute.
The Tigers’ funding bid has been linked with the proposed radical redevelopment from Richmond station to the MCG. The Punt Road gateway is seen as the last piece in the puzzle of Melbourne’s inner-city sporting precinct.
The confluence of big AFL and NRL finals held in the precinct on Friday night, along with the logistical hurdles involving moving more than 91,000 supporters into the MCG for Richmond’s Thursday night qualifying final against Hawthorn, has again underlined the need for a new walkway linking Richmond station to the MCG.
https://www.theage.com.au/sport/afl/jack-dyer-stand-may-go-in-60m-punt-road-oval-redevelopment-20180907-p502dv.html
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Stuff progress
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Get it done :lol
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I reckon the club should have a Scottish institute and maybe a Christian academy too. Let’s not forget a Hindu ashram and a giant Bhudda at the entrance of Punt Road oval in the new development.
And we should be the first club to have a non binary gender specific pansexual football club to show the AFL we are truly serious and prayer/orgy rooms for a free for all of spiritual erotic satisfaction. :rollin
Maybe then we can up the ante to $100 million. :birthday
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Members have a choice of two designs for the new development.
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Just make it the official Australian Campus of The Frankfurt School and be done with it.... :shh
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https://youtu.be/KHJlZyFxp88
:rollin :lol
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:snidegrin did you see the Senator he got with the sexpest / pedo detector as Morad? He is trying to sue him now HAHAHAH
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:snidegrin did you see the Senator he got with the sexpest / pedo detector as Morad? He is trying to sue him now HAHAHAH
For 95 million. What a pissant!
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:snidegrin did you see the Senator he got with the sexpest / pedo detector as Morad? He is trying to sue him now HAHAHAH
For 95 million. What a peeant!
Fake news!
Black people live here but we tolerate them. :ROTFL
Truthbrary news. Hilary has a penis. Can you deny or confirm :rollin
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Back to the topic:
From Prez Peggy O'Neal:
Q. Our redevelopment has been talked about but we still don’t know what it might look like or when it may be built. Do you have any updates?
A. We continue to work hard with government - at a State, Federal and local level - to source the funding required to complete our Punt Road Oval masterplan. This is a Club priority to ensure we continue to provide our AFL players with an elite environment in which they can prepare.
Beyond that we need to support our emerging women’s football program and have the space to grow our industry-leading community programming.
We also want a welcoming and healthy workplace for all of our administration staff and, understandably, as we grow, we need more staff and, consequently, we need more space.
We hope to be in a position to share our plans in the near future as the design work is underway.
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2018-09-10/from-the-president-september-2018
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Tigers keen to ease the Punt Road squeeze
Jennifer Phelan
afl.com.au
Oct 3, 2018
SECURING a second training ground is part of Richmond's plans to expand the club's facilities to help house the Tigers' five football teams and growing administration.
The Tigers have already outgrown the revamped facility they moved into in 2012 and are lobbying for state and federal funding to expand again.
CEO Brendon Gale said on Tuesday there was also a need for an additional training venue, given their growing repertoire of teams.
"In 2020, we'll have four football teams – five if you include our wheelchair team – using Punt Road," Gale said at the club's best and fairest.
"It's going to be incredible pressure on it … I think we need to [think of a secondary venue].
"We need to develop Punt Road to make sure we can accommodate the needs of elite football, men's and women's.
"We may need to look at other complementary training venues to take the pressure off Punt Road."
The Tigers became the first AFL club this July to record 100,000 members, off the back of their 2017 premiership triumph.
Gale confirmed they were also looking to grow their Punt Road home.
"We've got a number of plans we're working through, we're talking to the government," he said.
"We need to grow – we simply can't accommodate that growth in our current set up.
"I'm confident we'll be able to develop a great training and administration facility for our players and staff and coaches but we'll still only have one ground."
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2018-10-02/tigers-keen-to-ease-the-punt-road-squeeze
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Highgate was a second training venue for a short period about a decade ago but virtually everyone hated the long trek up to woop woop Craigieburn :yep. The original idea was to have Punt Rd the same size at Docklands and Highgate with the dimensions of the M.C.G.
I'm not sure if we'd be allowed to set up a MCG-sized oval in Yarra Park right next to Punt Rd Oval? From memory, doesn't Melbourne want to set up facilities somewhere in Yarra Park (north-east corner near)?
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Save punt road for the big boys and all that other rubbish can be played at Kevin Bartlett reserve or something.
Let's be honest here, what is the interest or significance in this other stuff bar modern day inclusion?
Yeah yeah all well and good but seriously :banghead
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Who are the 5 teams?
AFL
VFL
VFLW
Wheelchair
What is the other team?
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AFLW from 2020
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Citizens Park in Richmond could be developed as a 2nd venue.
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AFLW from 2020
OK thanks
So a bit of forward planning going on.
And so we will run both an AFLW and VFLW teams?
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Citizens Park in Richmond could be developed as a 2nd venue.
You'd wanna rip it and start again.
Walk my dog there every night, it's a tip.
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What is the other team?
Good question, for a moment I thought the U/19's were coming back.
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What is the other team?
Good question, for a moment I thought the U/19's were coming back.
Dio already answered this above.
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I'm not sure if we'd be allowed to set up a MCG-sized oval in Yarra Park right next to Punt Rd Oval? From memory, doesn't Melbourne want to set up facilities somewhere in Yarra Park (north-east corner near)?
Benny wants a slice of Yarra Park. Bit torn on this one. I love Richmond but I also oppose any further encroachment on Melbourne's parks, there has been too much of it.
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Citizens Park in Richmond could be developed as a 2nd venue.
You'd wanna rip it and start again.
Walk my dog there every night, it's a tip.
Agree its a tip but that's why it could be redeveloped into a nice facility and its in Richmond.
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And so we will run both an AFLW and VFLW teams?
Yep
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And another thing …
Watch for movement on the club's facilities next year. The Tigers will boast five teams (AFL, VFL, AFLW, VFLW and wheelchair) from 2020, and have already identified a need to expand, potentially to include a second training venue. They've started lobbying for state and federal funding to back such a project. - Jennifer Phelan
Source: AFL website (http://www.afl.com.au/news/2018-11-03/wheres-your-club-at-training-return-injuries-major-moves)
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Brendon Gale said the Tigers' off-field priority over the next few years was to expand their Punt Road facility to help cater for their four teams that will take to the field as of 2020.
After 2019, they will have AFL, VFL, AFLW and VFLW – plus a wheelchair team – using their facilities.
They're still considering adopting a second training ground, as floated by Gale at the October best and fairest count, given the pressure the additional teams are expected to put on their current home.
But, Gale said redeveloping Punt Road – a move that will require lobbying for state and federal funding – is at the top of their needs list.
"First and foremost, our priority is making sure our facilities here at Punt Road are fit for purpose and can accommodate a growing football club and football teams," he said.
"I think that's our priority."
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2018-12-03/tigers-keen-to-surpass-100000-members-again
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What's wrong with Citizen Park? I go running around the oval, pat the dogs and it seems fine to me? Yes there's people having a cheeky drink on the benches at around 10pm onwards but I think it's a nice oval
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Citizens Park is lovely but there is not really room for development. I think Kevin Bartlett Reserve is better suited.
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If you want injuries by all means train at Citizens Park.
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Going back to Craigieburn.... :shh
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Going back to Craigieburn.... :shh
They wont go back to Craigieburn. I can see them working out of Beaconsfield too at same stage because it fits in with our supporter base strategy.
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Going back to Craigieburn.... :shh
They wont go back to Craigieburn. I can see them working out of Beaconsfield too at same stage because it fits in with our supporter base strategy.
Doubt that Hume Council would want them back anyway. Considering what they "were given" in terms of the facility out there and what they were asked to do in return the Club treated the Craigieburn deal very poorly
Have said it many times it's a pity the CLub didn't embrace the Carigieburn deal they way they've embraced Beaconsfield. They had a huge opportunity out there for growth and turned its back on it .... :whistle :shh
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From Prez Peggy O'Neal:
What are we doing to ensure our facilities don’t fall behind other clubs again? We worked hard to get back to a level playing field and I don’t want to see us lose ground.
This is certainly a major priority for the Club right now. We have continued to work hard with Federal, State and Local governments and have received some encouraging feedback. Naturally, the final funding mix and the amount of that funding will dictate the shape of the redevelopment masterplan and timing. We anticipate being able to share a significant update with members and supporters in the first half next year.
In the meantime, we are likely to add some portable office space behind the goals at Punt Road Oval to accommodate our growing administration needs but importantly, to give the football department access to additional space that will enable them to best prepare our AFL, VFL and VFLW teams in 2019, and of course, our AFLW team in 2020.
Source: RFC website (http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2018-12-06/from-the-president-december-2018)
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Going back to Craigieburn.... :shh
They wont go back to Craigieburn. I can see them working out of Beaconsfield too at same stage because it fits in with our supporter base strategy.
Doubt that Hume Council would want them back anyway. Considering what they "were given" in terms of the facility out there and what they were asked to do in return the Club treated the Craigieburn deal very poorly
Have said it many times it's a pity the CLub didn't embrace the Carigieburn deal they way they've embraced Beaconsfield. They had a huge opportunity out there for growth and turned its back on it .... :whistle :shh
What killed Craigieburn was it's out in whoop whoop and a pain to get to even by car unless you live out that way :P.
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What killed Craigieburn was it's out in whoop whoop and a pain to get to even by car unless you live out that way :P.
A bit like Beaconsfield.... ;D
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From Prez Peggy O'Neal:
What are we doing to ensure our facilities don’t fall behind other clubs again? We worked hard to get back to a level playing field and I don’t want to see us lose ground.
This is certainly a major priority for the Club right now. We have continued to work hard with Federal, State and Local governments and have received some encouraging feedback. Naturally, the final funding mix and the amount of that funding will dictate the shape of the redevelopment masterplan and timing. We anticipate being able to share a significant update with members and supporters in the first half next year.
In the meantime, we are likely to add some portable office space behind the goals at Punt Road Oval to accommodate our growing administration needs but importantly, to give the football department access to additional space that will enable them to best prepare our AFL, VFL and VFLW teams in 2019, and of course, our AFLW team in 2020.
Source: RFC website (http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2018-12-06/from-the-president-december-2018)
Richmond station is planned to be redeveloped and there's talk of building a raised walkway over Brunton Ave. I wonder how this will tie eventually into the area around Punt Rd and whether we can use it to add more facitilies (eg: admin).
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What killed Craigieburn was it's out in whoop whoop and a pain to get to even by car unless you live out that way :P.
A bit like Beaconsfield.... ;D
Should live on the right side of town with the majority of us Tiger supporters ;D.
Cardinia/Casey is growing like crazy in terms of population and urban sprawl. It even has totally changed the voting patterns of local state electorates at the recent election which were still rural only 5-10 years ago. So I can understand why we've focused on growing and expanding our supporter base out that way. We only train & play VFL games there a couple of times per year and it's not that hard for the players to get to either who mostly live in the inner city: Onto the Monash, turn off at Berwick (left onto Clyde Rd), turn right onto Princess Hwy and then left at Beaconsfield-Emerald Rd to Holm Park Reserve. Fans can also get there by public transport so older kids can travel there by themselves. It's not that far a walk from Beaconsfield station. Highgate Reserve on the other hand is nowhere near Craigieburn station.
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Redhead 🐯🏅👊 @redhead27
Feb 9
Saw this on facebook 10 minutes ago
Anyone want these removed windows from punt rd 4 diamond shaped and two triangles $250 for the lot Tony. 0412418133
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https://twitter.com/WaringBrian/status/1094076691364769793
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Brian Waring @WaringBrian
Replying to @Tigers_of_Old @redhead27
Been my job for last few weeks with Tony....flashings will be finished before the end of next week!!!
The view now from the Maurice Rioli room is awesome
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https://twitter.com/WaringBrian/status/1094076691364769793
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Great news those old windows were ridiculous.
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Only worth it is if they are going panoramic window to run the length, otherwise wasting money.
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https://twitter.com/7NewsMelbourne/status/1108635287557537792
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Richmond Football Club’s vision for a fully integrated, elite training and education hub at the Swinburne Centre is a step closer to reality after the Federal Government announced a $15 million commitment to the project.
https://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2019-03-21/federal-government-commits-to-swinburne-centre-redevelopment
Does anyone know if there are any plans/designs available about the new redevelopment?
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Here's the video clip about the redevelopment on the RFC website:
https://www.richmondfc.com.au/video/2019-03-26/swinburne-centre-redevelopment
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As you all know, I was away from this forum for a fair while, I reckon during that time, I remember Richmond releasing plans for
a full redevelopment of Punt Road. Does anyone know what is happening with those plans. I even remember pictures being released
of what Punt Road would like after a redevelopment.
Is this it, Ramps?
(https://www.otiumplanning.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2019/03/RFC.jpg)
https://www.otiumplanning.com.au/portfolio-items/punt-road-oval-redevelopment-funding/
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As you all know, I was away from this forum for a fair while, I reckon during that time, I remember Richmond releasing plans for
a full redevelopment of Punt Road. Does anyone know what is happening with those plans. I even remember pictures being released
of what Punt Road would like after a redevelopment.
Is this it, Ramps?
(https://www.otiumplanning.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2019/03/RFC.jpg)
https://www.otiumplanning.com.au/portfolio-items/punt-road-oval-redevelopment-funding/
Got hit up by RFC a couple of weeks ago for $200 scratchie, bloke said we are extending the JD stand & adding the William Cooper Centre at the Northern end of the ground, hence the relocation of the temporary visitors change rooms
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That looks like a nice redevelopment.
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From the Prez Peggy O'Neal
We continue to work to secure the funds needed to redevelop Punt Road Oval which will not only enable us to support our ever-expanding football program but will also deliver an important community asset. It was pleasing to secure $15 million in Federal Government funding for this project, and we continue to have discussions with other levels of Government, and key stakeholders, to source the balance of funding required to deliver this facility Concept designs are progressing and we hope to be in a position to share them with you soon.
https://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2019-08-30/from-the-president-september-2019
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Richmond’s $60 million redevelopment of Punt Road will be helped by that financial haul [2019 profit], with the Tigers still seeking extra government funding for the upgrade.
The development will house the club’s indigenous academy – the Korin Gamadji Institute – as well as Bachar Houli’s Academy for Muslim youth.
Source: Herald-Sun (https://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/more-news/marlion-pickett-to-receive-richmond-life-membership-after-flag-success-as-tigers-eye-profit/news-story/1c0c62ff7a8968767ea4831f998da5a9)
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Heard yesterday we are now looking at a 2023 date for the redevelopment completion. Also heard getting money out of the state government has been a struggle so far.
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From the Prez Peggy O'Neal:[/b]
Members also asked for an update on the Club’s proposed redevelopment of Punt Road Oval. As many members and supporters would be aware, the Club secured $15 million funding from the Federal Government and continues to work with the State Government to secure funding that will enable the facility redevelopment to go ahead. The Club has appointed an architect and commenced planning processes to expedite the redevelopment once funding is secured. Much of the Board’s efforts in 2020 will be to progress this major project.
https://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/550594/from-the-president-december-2019/
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Saw it on the Ch7 news tonight and it's now up on the Club website
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State Government Announce Funding for Punt Road Oval Redevelopment
By Richmond Media - Just now
Richmond Football Club today thanked the Daniel Andrews State Government following the announcement of a $15.5 million funding contribution for the redevelopment of Punt Road Oval and the establishment of the William Cooper Centre.
The planned redevelopment will provide improvements and much-needed upgrades to the Club’s men’s and women’s football facilities, while also supporting Richmond’s cutting-edge community programs and administration needs.
“Richmond is where we belong, and Punt Road Oval is our home. This redevelopment will ensure the Club remains strong and bold - and in the heart of one of the world’s greatest sporting precincts - long into the future,” Richmond President Peggy O’Neal said.
“We are incredibly thankful the State Government shares our vision for the future of Punt Road Oval, the role it will play in supporting the elite performance of our men, the continued growth of our women’s football programs, and the importance of the Club’s community activities.
“We need to keep evolving as a Club and after careful consideration, the Board believes this redevelopment will best meet our future needs, that of our fans and the community.”
The redevelopment will create a thriving high-performance hub for the Club’s male and female footballers. The re-sizing of the oval and upgraded amenities will allow for AFLW and second-tier competition games to be played at the venue in front of crowds up to 8000.
“The William Cooper Centre will provide agile and flexible learning spaces that will support the Korin Gamadji Institute and Bachar Houli Foundation programming. On-site accommodation will also support the Melbourne Indigenous Transition School. This facility will empower young people to shape their own futures,” O’Neal said.
The $15.5 million provided by the State Government comes on top of $15 million committed by the Federal Government early in 2019. The Club will now work to secure the balance of the funding needed to deliver the $60 million project.
“Every footballer deserves an equal chance to play the game to the best of their ability and that’s why we back initiatives that provide a level playing field,” Minister for Tourism, Sport and Major Events Martin Pakula said in making the announcement.
“Beyond the game, Richmond have shown leadership in their community involvement and the new facilities will allow them to extend this reach.”
Stage one of the planned works - pending final planning approval - will see the Punt Road Oval playing surface resized to MCG dimensions, removal of the existing Jack Dyer Stand, construction of new public seating and amenities, female changerooms, community facilities and a function space.
Stage two will see construction of an underground car park while stage three will see a new landscaped forecourt, refurbishment of the existing Swinburne Centre including a new sports hall, Tigerland Superstore and public entry. It will also see a new landscaped terrace behind the northern goals.
“We need our AFL program to train on a ground that is the same dimensions as the MCG and we want our AFLW and second-tier competition teams to play at a venue that not only meets their needs, but that of those supporters that come to watch them play,” O’Neal said.
“To achieve that outcome and ensure Richmond remains at Punt Road Oval long into the future we need to remove the Jack Dyer Stand. Elements of the stand will be retained and incorporated in the new facility.
“These recent years have been an exciting chapter in our rich history, and this redevelopment is the crucial next phase as we continue to build a Club that our members and supporters are proud to be a part of.”
https://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/836673/state-government-announce-funding-for-punt-road-oval-redevelopment
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As per the above the Jack Dyer Stand will go
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As per the above the Jack Dyer Stand will go
& so it should, possum poo riddled fire hazard ( I love it though)
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Jack Dyer Stand to be bulldozed in Punt Road Oval redevelopment
Richmond has outgrown its spiritual Punt Road Oval home and a link to its past will be lost when the club embarks on a $60 million redevelopment.
Michael Warner
Herald-Sun
November 18, 2020
A $60-million Punt Road Oval revamp — boasting an expanded MCG-sized training ground — will force the demolition of the iconic Jack Dyer Stand.
The historic Tigerland grandstand, built in 1914, will make way for new public seating and amenities, female change rooms, community facilities and a function centre — catering for crowds of up to 8000 for AFLW and second-tier men’s matches.
Richmond president Peggy O’Neal said the back-to-back AFL premiers had outgrown their spiritual home.
“Richmond is where we belong, and Punt Road Oval is our home,” O’Neal said.
“We need to keep evolving as a club and after careful consideration, the board believes this redevelopment will best meet our future needs, that of our fans and the community.”
The Jack Dyer Stand is not heritage listed but has heritage overlay, requiring planning approval for demolition.
The Punt Road Oval masterplan will see the football department take over the club’s current headquarters, opened in 2011, and the construction of new facilities to house the Korin Gamadji Institute, Bachar Houli Foundation and its women’s football program.
Tigers chief executive Brendon Gale said: “As of late last year, we have had to relocate a large chunk of our administration staff into portable offices and long-term that is unsustainable.
“We have gone from one team to five in recent years (including the club’s wheelchair team) and that has put significant space pressure on both our football program and the broader administration, including some industry leading community programming.”
The Andrews Government will pour $15.5 million into the project on top of $15 million in funding secured from the Federal Government.
Richmond and other key stakeholders will raise the balance.
Gale said the proposed building, to be named the William Cooper Centre after the Indigenous activist who died in 1941, would provide:
* ELITE-level facilities to support the growth of women’s football;
* A FLEXIBLE learning space for the club’s Korin Gamadji Institute programming that empowers Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander youth;
* ACCOMMODATION for Melbourne Indigenous Transition School students who complete Year 7 on-site at Richmond Football Club;
* A BASE for the recently established Bachar Houli Foundation.
“A strong football club is not only highly-competitive football teams and an administration to support them, but the broader work we do with the Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander community and through our diversity and inclusion programming,” Gale said.
“I’m particularly excited about what this facility could do for the Bachar Houli Foundation. “We see him as a national treasure and this facility could enable his Foundation, and the work it does to promote social cohesion, to really take off.
“So much of what Bachar does is nation building – this facility will enable him to deliver programs of national significance.”
Sports Minister Martin Pakula said: “Every footballer deserves an equal chance to play the game to the best of their ability and that’s why we back initiatives that provide a level playing field.
“Beyond the game, Richmond have shown leadership in their community involvement and the new facilities will allow them to extend this reach.”
https://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/teams/richmond/jack-dyer-stand-to-be-bulldozed-in-punt-road-oval-redevelopment/news-story/13b7b2b0b5559dcbb635473d45ac43b2
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Will confess I am torn over the Dyer Stand having to be demolished.
Yes, it's old, yes it's rundown (blame the club for that) but it is such an important part of our Club. It is over 100 years old and history, our history is important. Sometimes it should be embraced not discarded :-\
As an aside, reckon we should give our AFLW side/ program some thanks for this funding. Having a woman's program played a very big part here. In the last 2 years all State Govt funding of suburban grounds have had strong links to women's sport (Carlton, Bulldogs and yesterday Us and N0rt) :shh
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This is brilliant, love that they are re-sizing the ground also to match the MCG.
Can't wait until it's all done and can watch an VFL (or whatever it's called now) game live.
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This is brilliant, love that they are re-sizing the ground also to match the MCG.
Can't wait until it's all done and can watch an VFL (or whatever it's called now) game live.
Works won't start until sometime in 2021 (subject to planning approvals which they haven't got yet)
they are saying 2022 is aim for completion
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So, will there be a Jack Dyer anything anymore? Stand, Room, Gym....
I would have thought we'd name the stand after one of our all time greats??
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So, will there be a Jack Dyer anything anymore? Stand, Room, Gym....
I would have thought we'd name the stand after one of our all time greats??
He still has a Statue - hopefully they find a more prominent place to put it.
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So, will there be a Jack Dyer anything anymore? Stand, Room, Gym....
I would have thought we'd name the stand after one of our all time greats??
I watched the entire interview with Peggy (it's on the website) and she was asked that directly and avoided answering it .... the offices part building will be called "The William Cooper Centre", she confirmed that.
He still has a Statue - hopefully they find a more prominent place to put it.
True; but i remember with that they were limited to where it could go because it is on council land and the council had to OK it
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Benny Gale was on SEN this morning.
AUDIO: https://player.whooshkaa.com/episode?id=759315
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THE REASONS BEHIND RICHMOND’S PUNT ROAD DEVELOPMENT
By Andrew Slevison
SEN
18 November 2020
The Richmond Football Club is set to undertake a redevelopment of Punt Road Oval after the State Government announced a $15.5 million funding contribution.
The idea behind the refurbishment is to improve the football facilities for both the men’s and women’s teams, to increase capacity to close to 8,000, to provide a home for the club’s community programs and to improve the quality of the club’s administration.
Tigers CEO Brendon Gale explained that the $60 million revamp will increase the playing and training surface to the dimensions of the MCG but as a trade-off of sorts will unfortunately impact the integrity of the iconic Jack Dyer Stand.
Being able to house the AFLW team is also a key factor for the upgrade.
“There are some sensitivities but progress is important and we need to work hard to meet the needs of the club,” Gale said on SEN Breakfast.
“Right now, the most important tool of trade you have as a footy club is your oval. We’ve got an oval which probably isn’t fit for purpose.
“As our footballers become bigger, more athletic and more powerful, it almost becomes smaller every year. It affects the quality of the VFL game and the ability of the players to display their wares and develop.
“More importantly, we aren’t allowed to play AFL women’s football there which we want it to use to showcase.
“To get the oval to MCG size, to future proof Punt Road, to keep us at Richmond forever hopefully, we need to extend into the footprint of the Jack Dyer Stand.
“We need to continue to grow and evolve, we need to meet the long term needs of the club and ensure Richmond stays at Richmond and doesn’t have to look at other alternatives.”
While Gale acknowledges the club’s rich heritage in referring to the Jack Dyer Stand, he believes that moving forward and progressing towards the future is just as important for the club that has won three of the past four AFL premierships.
“While there are some sensitive heritage aspects involved with the stand, we think there is much, much more heritage value in the Richmond Football Club staying at Punt Road Oval in Richmond for the long term,” he added.
“The history and tradition of the club is very important to us.
“It’s (the stand) currently condemned. We’ve looked at repairing it. We’ve looked at relocating it, brick by brick, but it’s just too prohibitive. So, we’ll work hard to ensure that some of the historical aspects of the stand will remain.
“It’s similar to the MCC. They’ve done a wonderful job in providing all the modern amenity and comfort but maintained some of those lovely heritage, historical aspects.”
The $15.5 million State Government funding is added to the $15 million granted by the Federal Government in 2019 with the club to fund the balance of the $60 million redevelopment.
https://www.sen.com.au/news/2020/11/17/the-reasons-behind-richmonds-punt-road-development/
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A shame they can't relocate the old grandstand to a community oval somewhere else. The price of progress :-\.
I'm guessing as an idea to keep the stand's memory alive as well as to make some $$$ for the Club is they will sell pieces of the stand to supporters as memorabilia?
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I thought the JD stand was heritage listed?
I’m sure they looked at every option with retaining it but given its size and position it essentially blocks any significant development of the building footprint if it were to remain.
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I thought the JD stand was heritage listed?
I’m sure they looked at every option with retaining it but given its size and position it essentially blocks any significant development of the building footprint if it were to remain.
I did too but no it isn't
There is a requirement for special planning approval around it.
Not sure what that means exactly but Peggy mentioned it in her interview that is up on the website
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I thought the JD stand was heritage listed?
I’m sure they looked at every option with retaining it but given its size and position it essentially blocks any significant development of the building footprint if it were to remain.
No its not, it has a heritage overlay, so cant just demolish carte blanche
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Jack Dwyer was Richmond for very long time, was a good man , loved helping kids!
Would like to see something named after him, also Graeme Richmond, had a few issues I know but still a legend imho
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Legend’s son pleas for Dyer name to stay at Punt Road
The son of Jack Dyer has been assured the Richmond legend won’t be forgotten when the grandstand named in his honour is removed for the Punt Road Oval upgrade.
Paywall: https://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/sport/afl/teams/richmond/jack-dyers-son-wants-his-fathers-name-on-new-punt-road-building-that-will-replace-historic-grandstand/news-story/2afc150f04ea487893171e4f828da5f3
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Couldn't the Club just name this new seated grandstand the 'new' Jack Dyer stand?
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The issue in the future is going to be what to name at the ground after Dustin Martin?
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So VFL Park built in 1970 was heritage listed but the Jack Dyer stand isn’t heritage listed even though it’s over 100 year old. :rollin
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Someone has started this petition:
Reverse the decision to not include a Museum in the new RFC Punt Rd development.
https://www.change.org/p/richmond-football-club-reverse-the-decision-to-not-include-a-museum-in-the-new-rfc-punt-rd-development
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Someone has started this petition:
Reverse the decision to not include a Museum in the new RFC Punt Rd development.
https://www.change.org/p/richmond-football-club-reverse-the-decision-to-not-include-a-museum-in-the-new-rfc-punt-rd-development
:huh3
I thought there was going to be a new museum in the new building
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From Peggy O'Neal on the RFC website:
Off-field, the Club continues to work with the necessary authorities to progress our plans for the redevelopment of Punt Road Oval and the establishment of the William Cooper Centre, a new home for our community programs. This redevelopment is critical to ensure the Club remains in Richmond.
It will provide outstanding facilities for our elite football programs, community programs as well as supporters that attend the ground to watch our AFLW and VFL teams play. I would also like to clarify that this redevelopment will be home to the Club’s museum – there seems to have been some confusion around this issue - but it is firmly in our plans.
https://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/880916/from-the-president-march-2021
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National Trust tackles Richmond on grandstand demolition
Jake Niall
The Age
April 20, 2021 — 8.09pm
The National Trust has called for a review of Richmond’s plan to demolish the Jack Dyer Stand at Punt Road Oval for a major redevelopment on the grounds that the stand is of cultural and historic significance to Victoria.
The National Trust also will request that the decision of the club to level the stand - part of a $60 million redevelopment of Richmond’s Punt Rd base - be reviewed by Heritage Victoria and potentially heritage-listed - a finding that would create obstacles for Richmond’s planned redevelopment.
The National Trust (Victoria)’s assessment of Punt Road Oval has found that the Jack Dyer Stand is of “architectural, historic and social significance to Victorians” and said that the stand could be saved, but even if the stand couldn’t be kept, the heritage body wants the Tigers to preserve “the cultural heritage” of the stand, which was opened on June 16, 1914, when the Tigers hosted South Melbourne.
Richmond say the redevelopment - for which it has pledges of $30 million from state and federal governments - is crucial to the Tigers remaining at Punt Road and involves important community work for their Indigenous, multicultural programs and women’s football.
The National Trust Victoria’s chief executive Simon Ambrose said: “We think there’s a strong case for the heritage value and historic value of the Jack Dyer stand to be taken into consideration.” He added that the stand’s removal “would be a loss to the community and to Victoria’s heritage”.
Ambrose said the issue of the stand’s removal would be raised with Heritage Victoria. “We’ll ask Heritage Victoria to take due consideration of the impact of the Jack Dyer Stand (being removed).”
“I think it needs to be determined if it has value to be heritage listed.
“I’m saying it should be considered to be saved ... It has heritage value, it also has social heritage value. It’s an important space.”
Ambrose said the trust - which outlined its concern about the redevelopment in its quarterly publication - wanted Heritage Victoria “to take this seriously”.
Richmond, however, argued that the retention of the Richmond Football Club at the club’s Punt Road Oval base was of far greater historical significance than the removal of the stand.
“It needs to be removed to allow for the development of facilities that will ensure Richmond remains in Richmond long into the future,” a club spokesman said.
The redevelopment involves a reconfiguring of the oval to be the same size as the MCG, which would enable women’s football to be played there permanently and for preparation of all teams.
The redevelopment also will see a revamp of facilities for women’s football, for the club’s Indigenous Transition School and Korin Gamadji Institute (Indigenous learning centre) and for the Bachar Houli Foundation.
Heritage Victoria, should it deem the Jack Dyer Stand to be worthy of listing, would recommend this to the Heritage Council, which would complete that listing. Once listed, Richmond would need planning approval to go ahead and demolish the stand, as planned - a process that could lead to VCAT.
Ambrose said the National Trust was “not against development”, but that the body was against “not recognising” the social and cultural heritage of a structure such as the stand. He said famous stands at renowned grounds such as Lords and the SCG had been preserved.
The stand, when opened in 1914, was not named after Dyer, arguably the club ’s most revered figure over its history, until 1996.
https://www.theage.com.au/sport/afl/national-trust-tackles-richmond-tigers-on-grandstand-demolition-20210420-p57kvs.html
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not sure if this will end well
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not sure if this will end well
What a load of piffle, the MCG would not be where it is today with this sort of bs.
Dan must have a hand in this.
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When the SCG was redeveloped many years ago they dismantled the heritage listed stands and re constructed them at North Sydney oval
Is this a possible course with the Jack Dyer Stand?? (no not to go to North Sydney oval but some suburban oval in Melbourne)
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I wonder if there is room at the ground where the Richmond Cricket Club plays?
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I wonder if there is room at the ground where the Richmond Cricket Club plays?
Central Reserve in Glen Waverley - probably not without demolishing buildings already on the site. The south oval already has a substantial grandstand and there isn't a heap of space on the north oval. Good thought though.
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Good ol Dan Andrews still screwing us over i suspect.
looking at their website you would think your looking at greens candidates out of that lot.
what a load of garbage
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Dan must have a hand in this.
Good ol Dan Andrews still screwing us over i suspect.
looking at their website you would think your looking at greens candidates out of that lot.
what a load of garbage
You are both aware that the National Trust is not a govt body? Only Heritage Victoria is?
National Trust makes submission to Heritage Victoria who then rules....
Also don't forget the current State govt has committed $15mil (as has the feds) to the re-development are well aware of the plans including the stand being demolished?
If any govt wanted to "screw" the club over they would withdraw the funding or just not give the funding at all (just ask Jeff Kennett ;D)
Would also suggest the National Trust do some decent research and they may just find the Club is looking at all options available to preserving what they can
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If in doubt, just blame Dan. Bloke has been off on sick leave for 6 weeks now haha
If there's any way they can keep the stand and build around it that would be nice.
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More than 100 years of precious footy memories
Well done the National Trust for highlighting the significance of the Jack Dyer Stand in the face of its demolition by Richmond Football Club as part of Punt Road Oval’s re-development (Sport, 21/4). The stand is over 100years old and has witnessed much of football history, as well as being the former home of the Richmond Cricket Club. Spectators have watched their heroes play from here. Memories of premierships are well and truly etched in its fabric.
Given that the club is currently well-funded, wouldn’t it be fitting to celebrate the Tigers’ heritage by restoring the stand to its former glory, as well as providing new or upgraded facilities for training, the AFLW, Bachar Houli Foundation and other excellent initiatives? To say that the re-development is crucial to the club staying at Punt Road Oval is a rather narrow and self-serving argument. I watched the club’s re-development announcement, where President Peggy O’Neal spoke of “tradition” and “community”. Where was she standing? In front of the Jack Dyer Stand.
- Annette Cooper, Camberwell
https://www.theage.com.au/national/victoria/more-than-100-years-of-precious-footy-memories-20210423-p57ly1.html
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Maybe we can just relocate it , it’s just past it’s use by date, in many areas including ohs ,what about outing at KB oval
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From Prez Peggy O'Neal:
Our place - the Swinburne Centre - is also at the forefront of much of our work.
The planned redevelopment is critical to ensuring the Richmond Football Club remains in its historic homeland long-term.
Among other things, we want to provide the proper facilities to support our elite AFLW program and to enable us to broaden and deepen our community work.
We are hoping to commence the final design phase shortly and we look forward to sharing more detail with you in the not too distant future.
We have $30 million committed to the project thanks to the Federal and State governments - about half of what will be required to complete the redevelopment.
We will soon embark on a major fundraising program to secure the balance.
https://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/962825/from-the-president-june-2021
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Richmond are hosting an information session on the redevelopment of Punt Road Oval, and the establishment of the William Cooper Centre, Tuesday 23 November at 5.30pm.
Attendees will be provided with an overview of the redevelopment, progress on the planning and funding components and get a preview of what the future will look like.
I’ve been wondering where the redevelopment was at and whether we were going to proceed, pretty keen to hear an update!
-the Journey
https://www.facebook.com/groups/2297566937190272/posts/3060286420918316/
From the comments:
This will be interesting. I believe Jack Dyer Jr is pressing hard for the Dyer name to be retained either or after Charles Coopers name or as a stand alone on the pavilion.
Well Jack Dyer resonates with Richmond supporters not Charles Cooper.
Compromise …
Jack Dyer Stand and Charles Cooper function room
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Here are the designs for the New Jack Dyer Stand:
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https://twitter.com/Tigers_of_Old/status/1463039828593823752
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Looks really good
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It was a brilliant presentation
It is a $65 million dollar project.
Currently they have $30 million from the State and Federal governments
When completed Punt Road Oval will be the same size (dimensions) of the MCG
Will have capacity for 8k spectators
It will also have underground parking
This project mean we stay at Punt Road forever.
Club will be launching a fund raising drive shortly
Full details here:
https://www.richmondfc.com.au/club/punt-road-oval-redevelopment
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Kept the name and some of the history, looks good ,I’m a fan
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Yes time to move forward whilst staying in our heartland. Looks great 👍
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With a 35 million shortfall I think the sale of our gaming license is inevitable. If we could get $15 million that leaves a 20 million gap. Its a bloody big shortfall still but im sure the supporters will come up trumps and make major inroads into it.
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Video: https://www.richmondfc.com.au/video/1032856/punt-road-redevelopment?videoId=1032856&modal=true&type=video&publishFrom=1637630040001 (https://www.richmondfc.com.au/video/1032856/punt-road-redevelopment?videoId=1032856&modal=true&type=video&publishFrom=1637630040001)
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More pics:
(http://oneeyed-richmond.com/images/redevelopment/PuntRoadRedevelopment2.png)
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Punt Road to be converted from current size ...
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... to MCG size:
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With a 35 million shortfall I think the sale of our gaming license is inevitable. If we could get $15 million that leaves a 20 million gap. Its a bloody big shortfall still but im sure the supporters will come up trumps and make major inroads into it.
I don't think getting out of pokies is bad thing. Think that has been on the board for a while just need other revenue streams to cover the loss of income the pokies generates
The Club has a huge advantage in that it has 100k members. If every member was to kick in $100, then that's 1/3 of what's needed.
***not saying people have to or should just giving an example***
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No but I think if we all contributed over a 2 or 3 year period... those of us who can and want to I supposed its possible.
Id like to see the club set up an account that we can just contribute to via debit/credit card or just transfer money into from our bank accounts. Id probably make a weekly donation of say $20 thats $1040 for the year.
Even set up a development donation payment link on the website. Anyone could go in put in their details including card details and make a donation at any time.
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Here's the 20 min presentation by Benny Gale with a ten minute Q&A at the end.
WATCH: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IlLF9USStRc
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Q&A:
* We've put the AFL on the radar about contributing to the funding. We believe we have a compelling case given it will be a community facility. We will be fundraising ourselves and the Club will be on the hook for the bulk of the cost.
* If it doesn't go ahead then we'll remain at Punt Road for the immediate future but our long term future here would be jeopardised. Our current facilities aren't up to scratch. We now have multiple teams to cater for and the ground only holds max. 2500.
* The Jack Dyer Stand isn't heritage listed but Yarra Park is. As we're changing our footprint in Yarra Park so we've made a submission to Heritage Victoria.
* Need to wait and see if there's any components of the old Jack Dyer Stand for fans to purchase. Our fundraising committee is looking at it. As mentioned components of the old stand will be reused in the redevelopment.
* Someone asked the Club about creating a virtual tour of the old Jack Stand stand to preserve it for future Tiger supporters. Benny took the question on notice.
* The William Cooper name relates only to the community centre within the centre as a whole.
* Asked about night games at Punt Road, there's no game-standard lights proposed in the plans but it may. We already do have lights fit for training. We would need extra lights to support night matches.
* Benny mentioned a "living museum" in the club's entrance atrium.
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No but I think if we all contributed over a 2 or 3 year period... those of us who can and want to I supposed its possible.
Id like to see the club set up an account that we can just contribute to via debit/credit card or just transfer money into from our bank accounts. Id probably make a weekly donation of say $20 thats $1040 for the year.
Even set up a development donation payment link on the website. Anyone could go in put in their details including card details and make a donation at any time.
Provided we can get some AFL funding, I'm guessing it could go something like this:
$
Government funding 30m
AFL funding 5m
Sale of pokies licence 13m* ......... Melbourne sold their licence for $11m over 3 years ago.
Fighting Tiger Fund 10m .......... we raised at least $6m 10 years ago with the initial FTF and other fundraising efforts.
Annual Budgets/Debt 6m .......... 2m per year over the 3 years of construction (or 1m over 6 years as debt).
Auction old Stand parts 1m
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Total 65m
* There was this from 3 years ago:
Richmond are believed to have approached the AFL to discuss how the league could subsidise the pokies exits. The AFL, led by chairman Richard Goyder, wants to be pokies-free.
https://www.theage.com.au/sport/afl/five-afl-clubs-awarded-new-20-year-licenses-to-operate-pokies-20181029-p50cl8.html
Our new licence doesn't begin until next year so the buyer would get the full 20-year licence until 2042.
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I'd be surprised if the AFL provided any funding
We are not a poor Club, have cash reserves so unlikely I would think
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how about use the money the womens team makes
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how about use the money the womens team makes
LOL
Would be paying off in the three thousands
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Our AFLW team and the need for better facilities for them at Punt Rd is one of the main reasons we are getting $30m in government funding towards this redevelopment.
https://sport.vic.gov.au/news/articles/tigers,-kangaroos-aflw-boost-will-benefit-communities
I'd be surprised if the AFL provided any funding
We are not a poor Club, have cash reserves so unlikely I would think
Do you know WP if the AFL has contributed funding to any other club's redevelopment?
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Our AFLW team and the need for better facilities for them at Punt Rd is one of the main reasons we are getting $30m in government funding towards this redevelopment.
https://sport.vic.gov.au/news/articles/tigers,-kangaroos-aflw-boost-will-benefit-communities
I'd be surprised if the AFL provided any funding
We are not a poor Club, have cash reserves so unlikely I would think
Do you know WP if the AFL has contributed funding to any other club's redevelopment?
I believe they kicked in some funding for N0rt's last Adren St upgrade and possibly the Saints back to Moorabbin. They seem to always kick in for developing markets interstate
But for bigger Club's, no. Let's see if they help the Bombers with Windy Hill
But
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RICHMOND is chasing an extra $35 million for the redevelopment of Punt Road Oval and is set to scale up its fundraising efforts in the coming months.
https://www.afl.com.au/news/689887/wanted-35-million-to-get-punt-road-redevelopment-done
Gale says the club endeavoured to retain and refresh the existing grandstand, after the National Trust Victoria found it to be of ‘architectural, historic and social significance’.
“It (the Jack Dyer Stand) is basically condemned, it’s uninsured, we can’t have more than 20 people in it and the cost of refurbishment is prohibitive,’’ he says.
“Richmond members and fans have a proven track record of supporting our club and it’s really important to invest and continue to grow our strong and bold future at Punt Rd for years to come,’’ he said.
Planning for the new Punt Rd facility is due to be completed by early 2022. If the club is able to receive the required amount of donations in order to make the project a reality, Gale believes the William Cooper Centre will reach completion by 2024.
https://www.architectureanddesign.com.au/news/richmond-fc-punt-rd-redevelopment#
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Here is our full submission to Heritage Victoria and the links to each document:
Yarra Park, Wellington Pde and Punt Rd and Vale Street and Jolimont Terrace and Brunton Ave and Jolimont Street, East Melbourne (VHR H2251)
Permit P33283 for a permit to develop the land adjacent to Punt Road Oval, including demolition of existing carpark, removal of 51 trees including six mature English Elms, construction of new grandstand building and raised terrace with below ground facilities, and associated hard and soft landscaping works.
Submissions close on Tuesday 7 December.
https://www.heritage.vic.gov.au/protecting-our-heritage/currently-advertised-permits
Cost Estimate (https://www.heritage.vic.gov.au/__data/assets/pdf_file/0017/550250/Cost-Estimate.pdf)
Architectural Drawings (https://www.heritage.vic.gov.au/__data/assets/pdf_file/0025/550249/Architectural-Drawings.pdf)
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Continues (I can only post links at a time due to the anti-spammer)
Design Concept Report (Part 1) (https://www.heritage.vic.gov.au/__data/assets/pdf_file/0018/550251/Design-Concept-Report-Part-1.pdf)
Design Concept Report (Part 2) (https://www.heritage.vic.gov.au/__data/assets/pdf_file/0018/550251/Design-Concept-Report-Part-2.pdf)
Design Concept Report (Part 3) (https://www.heritage.vic.gov.au/__data/assets/pdf_file/0018/550251/Design-Concept-Report-Part-3.pdf)
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Design Concept Report (Part 4) (https://www.heritage.vic.gov.au/__data/assets/pdf_file/0018/550251/Design-Concept-Report-Part-4.pdf)
Hertiage Impact Statement (https://www.heritage.vic.gov.au/__data/assets/pdf_file/0022/550255/Heritage-Impact-Statement.pdf)
Heritage Management (https://www.heritage.vic.gov.au/__data/assets/pdf_file/0023/550256/Heritage-Management-Plan.pdf)
Aboricultural and Tree Management (https://www.heritage.vic.gov.au/__data/assets/pdf_file/0024/550248/Arboricultural-and-Tree-Management-Plan-reports.pdf)
Landscape Design Report (Part 1) (https://www.heritage.vic.gov.au/__data/assets/pdf_file/0024/550257/Landscape-Design-Report_Part1.pdf)
Landscape Design Report (Part 2) (https://www.heritage.vic.gov.au/__data/assets/pdf_file/0024/550257/Landscape-Design-Report_Part2.pdf)
Landscape Design Report (Part 3) (https://www.heritage.vic.gov.au/__data/assets/pdf_file/0024/550257/Landscape-Design-Report_Part3.pdf)
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Previous Permits (https://www.heritage.vic.gov.au/__data/assets/pdf_file/0019/550261/Previous-permits.pdf)
Reasonable or Economic Use Report (https://www.heritage.vic.gov.au/__data/assets/pdf_file/0020/550262/Reasonable-or-Economic-Use-Report.pdf)
Yarra Park Conservation Analysis (Part 1) (https://www.heritage.vic.gov.au/__data/assets/pdf_file/0021/550263/Yarra-Park-Conservation-Analysis_Part1.pdf)
Yarra Park Conservation Analysis (Part 2) (https://www.heritage.vic.gov.au/__data/assets/pdf_file/0021/550263/Yarra-Park-Conservation-Analysis_Part2.pdf)
Yarra Park Master Plan (https://www.heritage.vic.gov.au/__data/assets/pdf_file/0023/550265/Yarra-Park-Master-Plan.pdf)
Yarra Park Tree Strategy (https://www.heritage.vic.gov.au/__data/assets/pdf_file/0024/550266/Yarra-Park-Tree-Strategy.pdf)
The End.
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(http://oneeyed-richmond.com/images/redevelopment/2021CostEstimate.png)
https://www.heritage.vic.gov.au/__data/assets/pdf_file/0017/550250/Cost-Estimate.pdf
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(http://oneeyed-richmond.com/images/redevelopment/2021ArchitecturalDesign1.png)
(http://oneeyed-richmond.com/images/redevelopment/2021ArchitecturalDesign2.png)
https://www.heritage.vic.gov.au/__data/assets/pdf_file/0025/550249/Architectural-Drawings.pdf
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(http://oneeyed-richmond.com/images/redevelopment/2021NewCrowdCapacity.png)
(http://oneeyed-richmond.com/images/redevelopment/2021PuntRoadMasterPlan1.png)
(http://oneeyed-richmond.com/images/redevelopment/2021PuntRoadMasterPlan2.png)
(http://oneeyed-richmond.com/images/redevelopment/2021PuntRoadMasterPlan3.png)
https://www.heritage.vic.gov.au/__data/assets/pdf_file/0019/550252/Design-Concept-Report-Part-2.pdf
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(http://oneeyed-richmond.com/images/redevelopment/2021NewGrandstand.png)
(http://oneeyed-richmond.com/images/redevelopment/2021PlanLevel00.png)
(http://oneeyed-richmond.com/images/redevelopment/2021PlanLevel01.png)
(http://oneeyed-richmond.com/images/redevelopment/2021PlanLevel02.png)
(http://oneeyed-richmond.com/images/redevelopment/2021PlanLevel03.png)
(http://oneeyed-richmond.com/images/redevelopment/2021PlanLevel04.png)
(http://oneeyed-richmond.com/images/redevelopment/2021PlanLevel05.png)
https://www.heritage.vic.gov.au/__data/assets/pdf_file/0021/550254/Design-Concept-Report-Part-4.pdf
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(http://oneeyed-richmond.com/images/redevelopment/2021Landscape2.png)
(http://oneeyed-richmond.com/images/redevelopment/2021Landscape1.png)
(http://oneeyed-richmond.com/images/redevelopment/2021Landscape3.png)
(http://oneeyed-richmond.com/images/redevelopment/2021Landscape4.png)
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(http://oneeyed-richmond.com/images/redevelopment/2021HeritageListingRegion.png)
(http://oneeyed-richmond.com/images/redevelopment/2021ConstructionProposal.png)
https://www.heritage.vic.gov.au/__data/assets/pdf_file/0020/550262/Reasonable-or-Economic-Use-Report.pdf
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And for old times sake: Yarra Park 93 years ago in 1928.
(http://oneeyed-richmond.com/images/redevelopment/1928era.png)
Note Punt Road once had a tennis court.
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What a shame they didnt build offices and facilities like that for the last redevelopment 10 years ago. Its ordinary looking these days the black building. Itll probably be past its use by date in 10 years anyway.
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Apparently it's supposed to look like a stalking tiger but I don't see it.... :-\
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Wouldn't mind being the consultants on the job. 6mil.
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What a shame they didnt build offices and facilities like that for the last redevelopment 10 years ago. Its ordinary looking these days the black building. Itll probably be past its use by date in 10 years anyway.
Why would you build a social club that has 5% of it’s space overlooking the ground with windows?
It was always a ludicrous design and should’ve been called out day 1. I walk in to have a beer while the reserves is on and need x ray vision to watch it.
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From Prez Peggy O'Neal:
What progress has the Board made with regards the re-establishment of the museum?
The Club values its history enormously and that history has been carefully considered as part of the Punt Road Oval redevelopment. Unfortunately, even in the proposed new facility, space will be at a premium, so we are looking for ways to integrate exhibitions within the new facility so that our history is recognised. We plan for these exhibitions to be highly-visible, available for members to visit and regularly rotated to ensure our history is prominently showcased.
https://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/1041478/from-the-president-december-2021
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From Prez Peggy O'Neal:
What progress has the Board made with regards the re-establishment of the museum?
The Club values its history enormously and that history has been carefully considered as part of the Punt Road Oval redevelopment. Unfortunately, even in the proposed new facility, space will be at a premium, so we are looking for ways to integrate exhibitions within the new facility so that our history is recognised. We plan for these exhibitions to be highly-visible, available for members to visit and regularly rotated to ensure our history is prominently showcased.
https://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/1041478/from-the-president-december-2021
I wonder what acknowledgement there will be of the cricket club there will be in when honouring the football club's history.
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Tigers threaten to quit Punt Road unless council allows stand demolition
Cara Waters
The Age
May 2, 2022 — 3.49pm
KEY POINTS
* Richmond Football Club wants to demolish the Jack Dyer stand at Punt Road Oval built in 1914.
* The Tigers want to redevelop the oval and double its capacity from 4,000 to 8,000 spectators giving the Tigers’ home ground the same dimensions as the MCG.
The Richmond Tigers have threatened to leave Punt Road Oval unless the club’s plans to demolish the historic Jack Dyer Stand and redevelop the ground get council approval.
The planned $65 million redevelopment of the oval would double its capacity from 4000 to 8000 spectators and give the AFL club’s home ground the same dimensions as the MCG.
Plans for the demolition of the 107-year-old stand and its replacement with a new one, which will retain the Jack Dyer name but have a four-level underground car park, go before the City of Melbourne’s Future Melbourne Committee on Tuesday night.
Heritage groups are opposed to the demolition of the stand which was built in 1915 and renamed in 1998 after the Richmond legend known as Captain Blood.
The council will also consider alternative proposals which include refurbishing the stand, relocating it or raising it on a podium.
But the club maintains demolition is the only option and says it would leave if the planned development was not approved. Any refurbishment of the Jack Dyer Stand was cost prohibitive, the club maintains, and would not overcome its “limited function” with only 20 people able to sit in the stand at the moment.
“Richmond Football Club argue that their continued occupation of Punt Road Oval as their club headquarters is contingent on the new scheme being developed to provide the planned facilities,” the club’s submissions to the City of Melbourne state.
Richmond has pledges of $30 million from the state and federal governments for the planned redevelopment which will include a revamp of facilities for women’s football, for the club’s Indigenous Transition School and Korin Gamadji Institute (Indigenous learning centre) and for the Bachar Houli Foundation.
Richmond has used Punt Road Oval as its training and administrative headquarters since the club was founded in 1885 and the club says staying at Punt Road Oval base is of far greater historical significance than the removal of the stand.
The heritage adviser to the City of Melbourne has advised the council the demolition of the stand would be a “significant heritage loss” and the National Trust has called for it to be retained in any redevelopment of the oval.
National Trust chief executive Simon Ambrose said the trust supported the continuation of the site’s historic use, but this should not come at the expense of the Jack Dyer Stand.
“The Jack Dyer Stand embodies the enduring connection of the Richmond Cricket Club and Richmond Football Club with the Punt Road Oval and has architectural significance as an example of an early 20th century grandstand at a major sporting venue,” he said.
Deputy lord mayor Nicholas Reece said if the council approved the stand’s demolition, the final decision would sit with Planning Minister Richard Wynne.
“Punt Road Oval and Yarra Park hold a significant place in Melbourne’s history – as the birthplace of the AFL and as a traditional meeting place for local Aboriginal groups,” he said. “It is important any proposal to redevelop the site is sensitive to its history.”
Punt Road Oval was where the meeting was held before the rules were drawn up for the first organised game of Australian Rules football played between Melbourne Grammar School Football Club and Scotch College at Yarra Park on July 31, 1858.
Yarra Park is also an important traditional meeting place for local Aboriginal groups and was the site of major corroborees and gatherings.
“We expect a huge degree of public interest in this application, and rightly so,” Reece said.
“The proposed development will be very carefully considered by councillors.”
Richmond chief executive Brendon Gale declined to comment while the approval was before council.
https://www.theage.com.au/national/victoria/tigers-vow-to-quit-punt-road-unless-council-allows-stand-demolition-20220502-p5ahor.html
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Adapt or die.
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Originally I was against the stand getting demolished
But having attended an information night (Via zoom), seeing the plans etc
I changed my mind
But the other thing is I go to AFLW and VFL games at Punt Road and the amenities for fans are pathetic. Embarrassing if we are being honest. Further to that we have visiting teams using a portable office for their change rooms...
This redevelopment ensures we have the best facilities in the comp, we remain at Punt Road and gives fans a great venue to watch AFLW, VFL and hopefully VFLW...
End of the day what would Jack Dyer want? A stand bearing his name remain while his beloved footy club moves to God knows where? Or an old stand demolished, a new one built that will bear his name and ensures his beloved club remains in Richmond
No brainer I reckon
Here's the link to the redevelopment info on the club's website if you haven't seen it
https://www.richmondfc.com.au/club/punt-road-oval-redevelopment
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Let’s look across Yarra Park and reflect how much of it’s neighbouring stadium remains intact or who actually cares. Any precedent for this planning decision need not look any further than a drop punt next door
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Tigers deny claims they would leave Punt Rd.
Paywall: https://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/victoria/richmond-football-club-wants-to-demolish-historic-jack-dyer-standnews-story/2b7d7bb6585771408c16b493bc90e00
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Worth noting that the original stand was built by the Richmond Cricket Club, on the back of a debenture scheme instituted in 1913 by the RCC President, who laid the foundation stone. Granted, it was built to largely accommodate football crowds.
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You can't leave a derelict, unusable stand there no matter what age it is. Totally agree that Punt Road as a football venue (to watch) is an embarrassment.
The change room set up for visiting teams is pathetic.
New proposal looks great and will add so much value.
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Jack Dyer jnr is in support of the redevelopment.
The Club has given the Dyer family a guarantee that the new stand will be named after Jack Dyer.
Source: 7news.
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City of Melbourne Council just resolved to advise the Minister to approve the proposed redevelopment of Punt Road Oval including the demolition & replacement of the JDS.
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FR0ex8XVkAAgRz7?format=jpg&name=small)
https://twitter.com/rfcswallace/status/1521406096878972929
Live feed: https://www.melbourne.vic.gov.au/about-council/committees-meetings/meeting-archive/Pages/Future-Melbourne-Committee-3-May-2022.aspx
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Great news!
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Good news . Jack Dyer stand 2
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Tigers’ plan to tear down historic Punt Road stand gets thumbs up from council
Cara Waters
The Age
May 3, 2022 — 7.33pm
KEY POINTS
* Richmond Football Club wants to demolish the Jack Dyer Stand at Punt Road Oval.
* The Tigers had vowed to leave Punt Road if its $65 million plan to redevelop the ground was not approved.
* The City of Melbourne approved the demolition and voted to recommend the redevelopment proposal to the state planning minister.
The City of Melbourne has approved the demolition of the historic Jack Dyer Stand at Punt Road Oval as part of a redevelopment of the ground by the Richmond Tigers AFL club.
The council will recommend to Planning Minister Richard Wynne that the $65 million redevelopment of the oval go ahead.
Richmond had vowed to leave Punt Road if its plans to demolish the stand, which was built in 1915, and redevelop the ground were not approved.
At the council’s Future Melbourne Committee Meeting on Tuesday night, Laura Thomas, director at Urbis and town planner for the Richmond Football Club, said the redevelopment required the demolition of the historic stand.
Thomas said the decision was not taken lightly, but the stand was not fit for modern purposes.
She said the club’s primary aim was to secure its long-term future at Punt Road Oval, with the redevelopment to double the oval’s capacity from 4000 to 8000 spectators.
Heritage groups are opposed to the demolition of the 107-year-old stand which was renamed in 1998 after the Richmond legend known as “Captain Blood”.
Richmond has pledges of $30 million from the state and federal governments for the planned redevelopment, which will include a revamp of facilities for women’s football and space for the club’s Indigenous Transition School and Korin Gamadji Institute (Indigenous learning centre) and for the Bachar Houli Foundation.
The council voted unanimously to recommend Richmond’s proposed redevelopment to Wynne.
“This development really represents the future,” Lord Mayor Sally Capp said.
https://www.theage.com.au/national/victoria/council-approves-plans-to-demolish-historic-punt-road-stand-20220503-p5ai4l.html
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Very sad day!
Can’t replace history and soul
Plastic world
🐅 forever 😞
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Very sad day!
Can’t replace history and soul
Plastic world
🐅 forever 😞
Bitter sweet.
JD stand was stuffed and condemned basically.
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Right call, albeit a sad one
Best facilities in the land. Benefits all of us
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The correct call has been made :clapping
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I must say I have generally been opposed to this happening.
I do know that the condition of the stand isn't great however and that's a big issue with the increased use of the ground.
The design of the new stand does provide some similarity to the original JD stand which i think is very tasteful.
It does set us up for the future and have come around to this all happening now.
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From Rhett Bartlett twitter:
MAY 2, 1914:
Foundation stone of Richmond Grandstand was laid.
MAY 3, 2022:
(1 day after its 108th anniversary; approval given to demolish Grandstand. Re-named Jack Dyer Stand in 1998).
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FR1BSq4aMAAuleU?format=jpg&name=large)
https://twitter.com/rhettrospective/status/1521444042491723776
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Thank god this was decided by a proper council and the lefties and tree huggers at the city of yarra. Great decision.
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Thank god this was decided by a proper council and the lefties and tree huggers at the city of yarra. Great decision.
Amazing what a difference one missing word makes.
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Thank god this was decided by a proper council and the lefties and tree huggers at the city of yarra. Great decision.
Amazing what a difference one missing word makes.
:rollin
Indeed
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:lol
bloody texting on the phone
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I been sitting in the Jack Dyer stand for over 40 years. It was a dump then and it’s actually gotten worse.
Colossal waste of space.
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I been sitting in the Jack Dyer stand for over 40 years. It was a dump then and it’s actually gotten worse.
Colossal waste of space.
It’s time you went home. :rollin
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Tigers icon Matthew Richardson reacts to club’s $65m threat to leave Punt Road Oval
Glenn Valencich
7news
5 May 2022
Richmond’s plan to redevelop Punt Road Oval has been hailed as the “right call” by club great Matthew Richardson as the historic Jack Dyer Stand moves closer to demolition.
The City of Melbourne this week made the unanimous decision to approve a $65 million overhaul, which still needs Victorian Planning Minister Richard Wynne’s green light to go ahead.
The council’s support came after the AFL club dramatically threatened to relocate from the only home its known since 1885 if the application was shot down.
“It just would’ve felt unacceptable for me if Richmond weren’t at Punt Road. It just doesn’t work,” Richardson told 7NEWS.com.au.
“But they do so many other things out of that facility, with the Indigenous programs and the Bachar Houli Foundation.
“And the girls now, the facilities they have to train under are just not good enough. (The redevelopment) just needs to happen.”
Punt Road Oval serves as the Tigers’ AFL training base and hosts practice matches, AFLW games and VFL fixtures.
The current Jack Dyer Stand, built in 1915, goes largely unused by spectators after it was deemed unsafe to host larger crowds.
The brick structure will make way for a combined building and grandstand featuring modern seating, men’s and women’s training and changeroom facilities, and new internal spaces for education programs run out of the club.
Richardson, who was drafted by the Tigers in 1992 and retired as a player in 2009, argues the Jack Dyer Stand has “always been out of date”.
“They’ve always done everything they can to update that grandstand but it’s 100 years old, right?” he said.
“You’re always papering over the cracks. I think the right call’s been made.”
The Australian Football Hall of Famer said he understood heritage groups’ concerns around losing a slice of history in Richmond.
“But I think the greatest asset the Richmond footy club has is that location there where they train,” Richardson said.
“It’s a bit of a recruiting tool. Players come to Melbourne, you get to train right near the MCG and it’s central, you can live anywhere.
“It becomes a destination for Richmond if you’re attracting players. And at the end of the day you need to move on and have progress with your facilities.
“With the AFLW and a VFL team training there, you just need better facilities - particularly for the girls programs.”
https://7news.com.au/sport/afl/tigers-icon-matthew-richardson-reacts-to-clubs-unacceptable-65m-threat-to-leave-punt-road-c-6679095
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Cox Architecture’s design for the new grandstand is inspired by the original 1914 stand that it will replace. “The new design takes the same approach by incorporating a prominent array of steel columns to both the park and field elevations. Each column is composed of twin vertical elements that are pinned together and incorporate a linear light fitting recessed into a central reveal. In place of a traditional capital, the columns will feature slender steel plate connections to the roof structure above, and a footing detail that expresses its component parts,” the architects said in their planning application.
“The material palette has been selected based on a preference for natural materials that are both durable and sympathetic in a parkland context,” the architect continued. “The ends of the new grandstand present a wonderful opportunity to reinstate some of the original red brickwork from the Jack Dyer Stand.”
Cox Architecture intends to retain the remnant signage, which will be incorporated in the new building.
...
Deputy lord mayor and portfolio lead for city planning Nicholas Reece said, “I commend Cox on the design of the proposed new grandstand. I think it’s a well-designed facility [that is] sensitive to the surrounds there in Yarra Park. It has been rightly described as a quiet building that doesn’t try and make too much of an over statement.
“I find the point being made about the existing Jack Dyer Stand not being fit for purpose very persuasive,” Reece continued. “If the MCG had been frozen in 1913, it would not be the world’s greatest football ground as it is today. While the aspirations of Punt Road Oval are obviously not quite as grand, I do think we need allow the oval, the stand and the facilities to continue to evolve to meet the needs of the community. That does involve a really difficult trade off […] but ultimately the benefit of that trade off is worth it.”
Reece also encouraged the architects to further integrate the would-be remnants of the Jack Dyer Stand in their design.
The proposal will now progress to the Department of Environment, Water, Land and Planning for the minister’s consideration.
https://architectureau.com/articles/council-approves-65m-revamp-of-home-of-afl/
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Literally small signs that things are soon to start at Punt Rd Oval.
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FU8ifw9acAA2LAV?format=jpg&name=small)
https://twitter.com/KiwiTiger12/status/1535483931465617409
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As supporters and members we need to support this as the world heads into recession. Making an consistent annual or monthly contributions will help the club make up any shortfall. Whilst Im not against gaming myself the club should try and offload Wantirna for as much money as possible to. Other clubs have made millions from sales we need to do the same.
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Behind a paywall.
Inside Punt Rd Oval’s glamorous revamp
The demolition of the historic Jack Dyer Stand will go ahead after the $65m project to revamp Punt Rd Oval received the green light.
Paywall: https://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/victoria/richmond-football-clubs-punt-rd-oval-to-under-go-revamp/news-story/c6645549c09f0ddfd6c7d4314a4d6b89
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Inside Punt Rd Oval’s glamorous revamp
The demolition of the historic Jack Dyer Stand will go ahead after the $65m project to revamp Punt Rd Oval received the green light.
Paywall: https://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/victoria/richmond-football-clubs-punt-rd-oval-to-under-go-revamp/news-story/c6645549c09f0ddfd6c7d4314a4d6b89
Here's the full article:
Richmond Football Club’s Punt Rd Oval to under go revamp
The demolition of the historic Jack Dyer Stand will go ahead after the $65m project to revamp Punt Rd Oval received the green light.
Peter Rolfe
Development reporter
HeraldSun
24 June 2022
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Punt Rd Oval will be getting a revamp. Picture: Supplied
Richmond has been given the green light to redevelop its spiritual Punt Rd Oval, including demolition of a historic grandstand.
The Herald Sun can reveal the State Government has given Richmond the go ahead for a $65 million revamp that will see the oval reshaped and reconfigured to the same size as the MCG and space for 8000 fans.
To make way for the next chapter at Tigerland, the Jack Dyer Stand built in 1914 will be demolished and a new one bearing the same famous name built in its place.
The Punt Rd redevelopment will extend into Yarra Park, with crown land between Richmond’s homebase and the MCG transformed into new community space.
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The club has welcomed the revamp. Picture: Supplied
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The project is expected to cost $65m. Picture: Supplied
Richmond chief Brendon Gale said it was “a really significant moment’’ for the club.
“We have worked closely with the State Government throughout this process and undertaken extensive stakeholder consultation,’’ he said.
“We share a vision for a facility that will deliver enormous community benefit, while also ensuring that it remains fit for the purpose of enabling elite sporting performance.’’
The Herald Sun in November revealed details of Richmond’s plans for its home of more than 135 years, including state-of-the-art facilities to host AFLW and VFL matches.
Planning Minister Richard Wynne has now given the plans the tick of approval and the club will seek a tender for work, hoping to start construction later this year.
“This redevelopment underpins the long-term future of the Club at Punt Road Oval, our home since 1885,’’ Gale said.
“It provides our women with outstanding facilities while broadening and deepening our industry-leading social impact programming.”
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The club’s new main entry. Picture: Supplied
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A new grandstand. Picture: Supplied
The revamp will see a four-level underground car park build with 260 spaces.
The new Jack Dyer Stand will boast a 1200-seat capacity and house the William Cooper Centre, Korin Gamadji Institute, Bachar Houli Foundation and the Melbourne indigenous Transition School.
Bricks from the original Jack Dyer Stand will be built into external paths as part of the expansion which is expected to be completed by the 2024 AFL season.
https://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/victoria/richmond-football-clubs-punt-rd-oval-to-under-go-revamp/news-story/c6645549c09f0ddfd6c7d4314a4d6b89
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Any progress on this? From memory design was released for tender around June. Has a Contractor been engaged? When are works proposed to begin?
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Any progress on this? From memory design was released for tender around June. Has a Contractor been engaged? When are works proposed to begin?
Up at Mildura for the AFLW game we got told at a pre-match function that works to start in the first qtr of next year
It needs to be done pronto
It is embarrassing for the Club to be playing AFLW and VFL games at Punt Road in its current condition. Simply shocking amenities (if you can call them that) for fans.
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Why The Jack Dyer Stand Must Be Saved
Sunday, 6 November 2022
bloodiedwombat.heritagenetworkvic.com.au
Heritage Network - Victoria has recently received confirmation that the state's peak heritage body, Heritage Victoria, will formally hear our application to have the Jack Dyer Stand and Punt Road Oval added to the State's Heritage Register.
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If Heritage Victoria finds in favour of our submission that the stand is of state-level heritage significance, this will add a new layer of approvals required for any redevelopment of the ground.
The hurdles that would then need to be passed in order to be allowed to completely demolish a building of significance to the entire state are extremely high, such that the Club should then reconsider its plans.
Full long article here: https://bloodiedwombat.heritagenetworkvic.com.au/2022/11/why-jack-dyer-stand-must-be-saved.html
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Why The Jack Dyer Stand Must Be Saved
Sunday, 6 November 2022
bloodiedwombat.heritagenetworkvic.com.au
Heritage Network - Victoria has recently received confirmation that the state's peak heritage body, Heritage Victoria, will formally hear our application to have the Jack Dyer Stand and Punt Road Oval added to the State's Heritage Register.
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If Heritage Victoria finds in favour of our submission that the stand is of state-level heritage significance, this will add a new layer of approvals required for any redevelopment of the ground.
The hurdles that would then need to be passed in order to be allowed to completely demolish a building of significance to the entire state are extremely high, such that the Club should then reconsider its plans.
Full long article here: https://bloodiedwombat.heritagenetworkvic.com.au/2022/11/why-jack-dyer-stand-must-be-saved.html
So...
If this group win their appeal are they going to "Jack up" any extra cost involved in the design and build of the redevelopment
It isn't as easy as saying save and refurbish the existing stand and build the new offices, community spaces and AFLW and VFL facilities over there.
But here we go another 6-12 month delay :banghead
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They won't win their appeal. They are just sore losers
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There’s a difference something that’s old, tired and lacking utility for modern use and something of historic significance
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The Annual report says we've received $8m in government grants this year after $2m last year.
One of the key projects being undertaken off-field is the redevelopment of Punt Road Oval. This is critical to our
long-term future on and off the field. The planning process is complete, and the project has now been put out to
tender. Fundraising has also commenced for what is an incredibly exciting opportunity for our Club - Peggy O'Neal.
Our strong net cash position places us on a very solid footing as we prepare to undertake a transformational
redevelopment of our Punt Road Oval facilities. To date we have received $10m of funding from the State
Government for the redevelopment with a further commitment of $5m, along side a Federal Government
commitment of $15m. We continue to work hard to secure additional funding sources given the scale of the
redevelopment - Tina De Young.
Source: RFC 2022 Annual Report.
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Courtesy of Peggy O'Neal.
We have also been asked to provide an update on the Punt Road Oval redevelopment.
Pleasingly, we have now been issued a planning permit to allow us to proceed with the development of this business critical infrastructure.
Design is complete and the project has been put out to tender. We expect that process to be finalised in the second quarter next year.
We continue to build on the generous support we have received from the Federal and State governments to fund the project.
We have had a number of very generous donations and the Club has also committed to investing some of its cash reserves into the project. The final Club contribution will be dependent on fundraising and the total cost.
https://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/1258904/from-the-president-december-2022
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Geez that timeline blew out big time!
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Geez that timeline blew out big time!
Not wrong
Incredibly disappointing that what was touted to be finished in 2023 (at the latest) now won't be finished until at the earliest sometime in 2024
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Modern construction timelines for medium sized projects, leadtimes are extended and I trust that they have sufficient contingency for material costs when converted to AUD.
There is commercial risk everywhere with current construction projects and contractors are now pricing appropriately.
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Think it was more of a case of it taking a lot longer to get Council endorsement then what they allowed for in their initial program.
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Would be 30-40% more now than this time last year when they sent out the last report.
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As readers may be aware, Heritage Network - Victoria's nomination of the Jack Dyer Stand at Punt Rd Oval to the State Heritage Register has recently been declined by the Executive Director of Heritage Victoria, on the basis that it is assessed as being of local-level significance, rather than of significance to the entire State of Victoria.
Read the full post here: https://bloodiedwombat.heritagenetworkvic.com.au/2023/01/the-vfl-global-development-of.html
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From the President: February, 2023
By John O’Rourke
Richmond Media
1 February 2023
Richmond is a selfless and stable Club and that won’t change. But we operate in a highly competitive environment, and we must continue to innovate and look for opportunities to grow. If you are standing still in this business, you are going backwards. That is the challenge for all of us.
Clearly on-field success is what we all crave. Nothing is more important than having highly competitive men’s and women’s teams. We need to continue to create the environment that gives these teams the best chance of winning. That is - and always will be - our priority.
To deliver this, we need to nurture our culture, build a business that allows us to continue to invest in football and provide state-of-the-art facilities. To this end, the redevelopment of Punt Road Oval is a clear priority. We have made significant progress on this front, and we are currently in the process of appointing a builder. We are working hard on a financing plan that will allow the project to commence as soon as possible. We will communicate with members when the timelines for the project are locked in.
As you are aware, we are a purpose-based Club. Importantly, this facility will allow us to deepen and broaden our industry-leading community programming. This work is meaningful, it makes us a better Club and a unique proposition to both government and corporate partners. It is something we will continue to invest in not only because we can, but because we should.
https://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/1265100/from-the-president-february-2023
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The MCC has released a master plan for Yarra Park as well.
https://www.mcg.org.au/ypmp
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Punt Road Oval football facility in Australia
constructionreviewonline.com
Feb 17, 2023
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Punt Road Oval, an Australian rules football field and former cricket oval, is situated in the Yarra Park neighborhood of East Melbourne, Victoria. It is also known by naming rights sponsorship as the Swinburne Centre.
The Richmond reserves team has utilized the location for their VFL home games ever since it was resurrected in 2014. The demolition of the historic Jack Dyer Stand to make room for a new grandstand with public seating and amenities, the construction of additional playing facilities, and the creation of function space were all announced as part of the Richmond Football Club’s intention to oversee the venue’s redevelopment in November 2020.
The Victorian and Federal Governments have provided roughly half of the required financing for the proposed $60 million refurbishment, with the club and the AFL raising the remaining funds. Two levels of seating, some of which would be covered, would be added to the existing stand, increasing the capacity of the stadium to 8,000, according to plans and schematics the club revealed a year later.
Also, there are improved player facilities, communal spaces for events, and subterranean parking for 280 cars. The organization has declared its desire for the facility to be finished in time for the 2024 season.
The overall design successfully creates a legibility of architecture that speaks to the Australian Rules football crowd.
In a joint partnership between the Richmond Football Club, the City of Melbourne, the Department of Sport and Recreation, and the Australian Football League, the redevelopment of the Punt Road Oval fuels the themed landscape of the Richmond Tigers Football Club.
Design
Our desire to root the design within a Melbourne context, as well as reference the athletic grace of the human body, led us to the work of sculptor Clement Meadmore.
The physicality of his extruded shapes sat comfortably with newspaper stills of Australian Rules footballers in action. The long narrow slither of land around Punt Road Oval allowed the continuation of this motif, with the building contorting and squeezing in exertion between the oval’s boundary and AFL Way, as it progresses towards the Melbourne Cricket Ground (MCG) from Punt Road.
This facility is the next installment in the Richmond Tigers Football Club’s rich, 126-year history. A well-recognized image in Australian Rules Football is the vision of the winning team, forming a winner’s circle as they sing their team song in victory – a scene very familiar to the Richmond Football Club. This is relayed in the new facility design, with the elevations drawing inspiration from this post-game tradition.
We pictured the team, with their tiger-striped uniforms, standing in a circle with arms intertwined as a TV cameraman spins in the center, capturing them as they sing the popular ‘We’re from Tigerland’ theme song.
Cultural considerations
There were many other cultural considerations during the redevelopment. Respect was paid to the Jack Dyer Stand, built in celebration of one of Richmond’s greatest football legends, with the continuation of the red brick grandstand. The red becomes an extension of the body of the club, its muscle beneath the club colors.
The continuation of the red brick can also be viewed as a reference to the red of Harold Thomas’s indigenous flag, with the club having established a history of involvement with indigenous groups in Victoria and Central Australia. The new facility also houses the Korin Gamadji Institute, a training center for indigenous youth, which will be a life skills center offering vocational training and VET courses.
The multiple uses for the redevelopment evolved from an ethos of co-location which enriches its programmatic function, with areas dedicated to football use, community use, and space dedicated as flexible areas able to be programmed for use by all parties at different times.
The overall design successfully creates a legibility of architecture that speaks to the Australian Rules football crowd, one driven by identity, ‘tiger’ pride, and loyalty.
It would appear that the principle function is the tie that binds the design of professional and collegiate athletic practice facilities. Whether such buildings are well-appointed or more moderately adorned doesn’t matter. Their ultimate success depends on whether the layout makes sense.
Punt Road oval football facility perfectly fits this logic of providing all that is needed by its users, from the design to the strategic positioning of the facility both come out well supporting each other to provide the very best.
Making it simple
For many athletes, making the mental commitment to attend practice is already difficult enough. That’s why designers of newer practice facilities endeavor to accommodate players by making the physical act as simple as possible. Before its 72,000-square-foot Football Operations Center opened adjacent to the facility, the team literally found itself shuttled each day from one place to the next in search of training premises.
The problem was that the coaches were off the scene and the players were dressing at the stadium, which is a quarter-mile away. They were always getting bused over to practice; the architect added to the indoor practice field all the team’s offices, meeting rooms, and player facilities so they would have one place to go.
https://constructionreviewonline.com/projects/punt-road-oval-football-facility-2/
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Will be amazing but not possible in that timeframe
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Update on the redevelopment from the Prez:
The Club continues to work on the planned redevelopment of Punt Road Oval.
I can confirm that Multiplex has been appointed as our preferred builder. We are currently working through a value-management process to ensure the finished product is completed as cost-effectively as possible. This will also provide us with a clearer picture of commencement dates.
A number of key stakeholders have made substantial contributions to our fundraising program which is now well underway. These contributions are critical to enable us to finance the project. I want to thank those people who have gotten behind the Club's vision for Punt Road Oval. We are enormously grateful for your support.
I’ve also had some correspondence asking if the redevelopment will incorporate a museum. The solution that has been developed will see the Club’s historical memorabilia showcased on rotation throughout the new facility. This will allow us to make maximum use of the space available while also broadening the audience that can access it.
https://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/1327909/from-the-president-may-2023
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So after almost 12months of it going to tender, we finally have an appointed builder.
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The build is going to cost $93 million and "we've got to find a lot of money still" according to Benny Gale today.
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The build is going to cost $93 million and "we've got to find a lot of money still" according to Benny Gale today.
:gobdrop :gobdrop
So in little over 18-24 months the estimated cost has sky-rocketed by close to $30 million?
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You are obviously not in the building game Willy!
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You are obviously not in the building game Willy!
Yep
Industry has been smashed
So many pulling the pin as opposed to completing houses that will result in significant losses that they can’t afford
Been brutal what’s happened
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You are obviously not in the building game Willy!
No I'm not
But part of it is also because we take so long to get these projects going
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Benny Gale checking out the competition at the Swans and their latest new facilities.
Brendon Gale @brendongale25:
It’s remarkable to witness the rapid rate of improvement in the standards required to manage and deliver elite, professional sports. Tom Harley was kind enough to take me through the @sydneyswans super impressive new T&A [Training & Administration] headquarters, which have set a new @AFL benchmark IMO.
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https://twitter.com/brendongale25/status/1714852779293085956
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Would just like the bloody thing started
Originally it was supposed to be completed now or early 2024
We haven't even turned soil, or started knocking down anything
Be lucky if it's ready end of next year
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Would just like the bloody thing started
Originally it was supposed to be completed now or early 2024
We haven't even turned soil, or started knocking down anything
Be lucky if it's ready end of next year
Why the hell are we playing AFLW home games at Pigs Arse stadium when Punt Rd remains untouched.
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Why the hell are we playing AFLW home games at Pigs Arse stadium when Punt Rd remains untouched.
Exactly, games were moved because works were supposed to be starting
And here we are
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Update from the Prez John O'Rourke:
The redevelopment of Punt Road Oval is one of the most significant undertakings in the history of our Club. It will be our legacy for generations to come and keep our Club strong and bold long into the future.
Funding this redevelopment is a significant challenge in the current environment. Support from Government - both Federal and State - and some very generous donations from our high-net-worth supporters have been very much appreciated. But we will need the support of our members and supporters to bring this redevelopment to life.
A fundraising campaign will commence early in the new year, and any support you can provide will be greatly appreciated. When the Tiger Army mobilises, nothing gets in our way, and I look forward to the day we can collectively celebrate delivering this Club such an important facility.
https://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/1468442/2023-presidents-report
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If we will still be fundraising for and not starting the redevelopment until next year, then why did we make our AFLW team not play our home games at Punt Rd? :huh
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If we will still be fundraising for and not starting the redevelopment until next year, then why did we make our AFLW team not play our home games at Punt Rd? :huh
A question that's been asked by alot of AFLW members as we got told games couldn't be played as the redevelopment was to start in October
Having said that personally I was glad they got moved as the current amenities for fans at PRO are pathetic and not up to an acceptable standard: same applies for VFL games. Although I wasn't happy it was Princes Park
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Just announced at the AGM...
Total Cost of the Redevelopment is now $100 million
I didn't catch when it will be starting ..
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https://twitter.com/TigerWooda/status/1757286287776850128
Saw this on twitter last night but can't find the original source?
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Latest news about the redevelopment from the Prez:
Off-field, we remain committed to commencing the Punt Road Oval redevelopment this year. Increased costs have complicated our plans somewhat and, on behalf of members, the Board is conscious of taking a responsible approach to debt in the current economic climate.
That said, we still expect to commence works this year. This redevelopment is vital to our future. It will strengthen us off-field and give us the opportunity to win on-field.
As part of this, we will shortly launch a key consumer fundraising campaign, engaging the might of the Tiger Army to kick-start our final push. Please keep an eye out for it and as always, any support is greatly appreciated.
https://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/1511784/from-the-president-march-2024
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Certainly aren’t afraid to put their hand out
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Building materials up some 60% in past 2 years Damo. Getting trades is also super
Expensive as the labour govt blows money on unnecessary projects like SRL. And no, not a rightie just hate seeing money wasted in worthless projects let alone the knock on impact to privately funded stuff like our redevelopment…
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Building materials up some 60% in past 2 years Damo. Getting trades is also super
Expensive as the labour govt blows money on unnecessary projects like SRL. And no, not a rightie just hate seeing money wasted in worthless projects let alone the knock on impact to privately funded stuff like our redevelopment…
I get your point about the increase in material costs, tradie costs. I also appreciate that there was the issue around getting the OK from council and planning to knock down the JD stand but this project was launched nearly 3 years ago now. Not a spec of dirt has been turned.
It's bloody frustrating and annoying, especially when you see other Clubs who announced upgrades after we did almost having theirs completed.
BTW the State government has already tipped in $15mil and going by our annual accounts it's been received. So both state and Federal Governments ($15 mil as well) have done their bit
As I said frustrating and annoying
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WP I seem to remember reading about a month ago that the development was on hold , due to the blow out in costs
Unfortunately I can’t remember where I read it so can’t give you a link.
Maybe others with more knowledge can add to this
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WP I seem to remember reading about a month ago that the development was on hold , due to the blow out in costs
Unfortunately I can’t remember where I read it so can’t give you a link.
Maybe others with more knowledge can add to this
Yes well aware of the cost blow-out.
What was originally going to be a $70mil project is now a $100mil project (they said that at the AGM)
Still doesn't mean it's not frustrating. Our AFLW side couldn't play home games at PRO last season because works were to start last October. They got shunted out to Princes Park, who know where they will gwt shunted to this season.
And although our VFL side will play home games there this season it still doesn't hide the fact the amenities at PRO are sub standard for fans and it is embarrassing for our Club
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7news in their sports report after the ad break will have an "inside look" at the redevelopment plans.
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Kick By Kick, Brick By Brick: A new era for the Tigers
Help build a new legacy at Tigerland. Your Future, Your Strength, Yours to Build. One brick at a time.
Click on pic or link to watch:
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https://www.richmondfc.com.au/video/1533397/kick-by-kick-brick-by-brick-a-new-era-for-the-tigers
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EXCLUSIVE: Richmond has turned to its members to fund the final stages of its redevelopment after Covid cost blowouts.
7NEWS given the first glimpse inside new plans to ensure more than a century of history remains at Punt Road.
Watch here: https://twitter.com/7NewsMelbourne/status/1781970462920351786
* Two-year project.
* Old Jack Dyer stand gone by year's end.
* Cost of redevelopment is now $100m as well already knew.
* Call to arms to Tiger supporter base for a final push to make up the extra cost shortfall.
* Members can donate via Club channels from tonight.
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Some more rendered images.
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I hope the bricks fair better than the pavers did all those years ago :eyebrow :dancing
:sarcasm
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Since 1885, Richmond’s strength has been its army of passionate supporters. Founded in a community that understood struggle better than most, the Club emerged as a powerhouse of this thriving competition thanks to its fans. You have celebrated with us in the good times and sustained us through the tough times.
And now you can deliver the foundations of success for future generations, brick by brick.
By supporting the ‘Brick by Brick’ campaign, you can help salvage and clean the original bricks from the Jack Dyer Stand so they can be built into our new facility. Brick by brick, the legacy of every match, every premiership, and every fan will remain in the heart of Tigerland.
HELP LAY THE FOUNDATIONS OF THE JACK DYER STAND
KICK BY KICK, BRICK BY BRICK. DONATE NOW AND BUILD A NEW ERA FOR THE TIGERS (https://asf.org.au/projects/richmond-football-club/kick-by-kick-brick-by-brick?modalOpen=true\)
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By sponsoring a brick, your legacy will link our past to our future. You will be helping us build on the foundations of those that came before us to create a strong bond and a bold future, giving us the best opportunity to win premierships.
It’s time to build our future, together, Tiger Army (https://asf.org.au/projects/richmond-football-club/kick-by-kick-brick-by-brick?modalOpen=true)
https://www.richmondfc.com.au/club/punt-road-oval-redevelopment/brick-by-brick
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https://twitter.com/cleary_mitch/status/1781945924862017565
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How much do they need to raise?
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How much do they need to raise?
They haven't said
They also haven't said how much of our cash reserves they intend to use or if they intend to borrow
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Was told they need 35 million.....dreamin'....this where our relative lack of support from the establishment and the big end of town compared to other big clubs hurts us and why we've always been chasing them.... :shh
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Was told they need 35 million.....dreamin'....this where our relative lack of support from the establishment and the big end of town compared to other big clubs hurts us and why we've always been chasing them.... :shh
When you say "the big end of town" and "the establishment" who are talking about exactly?
Govt, wealthy supporters? Who
Not trying to a smart behind... just wanting to know to make sure we are on the same page
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Was told they need 35 million.....dreamin'....this where our relative lack of support from the establishment and the big end of town compared to other big clubs hurts us and why we've always been chasing them.... :shh
When you say "the big end of town" and "the establishment" who are talking about exactly?
Govt, wealthy supporters? Who
Not trying to a smart behind... just wanting to know to make sure we are on the same page
We don't have as many high profile supporters/backers with deep pockets & connections as the other "big" 3.... :shh
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We don't have as many high profile supporters/backers with deep pockets & connections as the other "big" 3.... :shh
Get what you're saying
But why do they need to be high profile?
The deep pockets are more important 8) ;)
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How much has the government chipped in here compared to say Lexus centre. I still shake my head each time I drive past that thing how they actually pulled that off.
FMD
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How much has the government chipped in here compared to say Lexus centre. I still shake my head each time I drive past that thing how they actually pulled that off.
FMD
This time between the Feds and State it's $30+ million
You forget the we got a lot of $$ for the last redevelopment so over time we're going to have received more
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https://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/victoria/stateoftheart-redevelopment-of-the-punt-rd-oval-has-ballooned-from-about-65m-to-about-100m/news-story/0e423fad063d8995e81e5530b6bb04e8
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How much has the government chipped in here compared to say Lexus centre. I still shake my head each time I drive past that thing how they actually pulled that off.
FMD
This time between the Feds and State it's $30+ million
You forget the we got a lot of $$ for the last redevelopment so over time we're going to have received more
If we only have 2/3rds of the funding with the balance to come from supporters than we might be waiting until the next pandemic before this thing gets built. Would be interested to see the ratio of funding that Geelong was able to secure ie. total cost funded by club, govts, supporters and borrowings to compare with what we are doing
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Bit rich from the club to ask supporters to bail them out especially in these tuff times we have crossed that river before. During covid, we paid full membership price and seen little games basically got nothing while other clubs gave there supporters alot more. Club has had 100k members for long time and I'll be honest there rewarded little some stickers etc.
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Bit rich from the club to ask supporters to bail them out especially in these tuff times we have crossed that river before. During covid, we paid full membership price and seen little games basically got nothing while other clubs gave there supporters alot more. Club has had 100k members for long time and I'll be honest there rewarded little some stickers etc.
While I get your point to suggest supporters being ask "to bail them out" is a tad over the top IMHO
The Club isn't chasing money because they are broke, they are wanting supporters to contribute to reduce the need to borrow which I get. The Club worked to hard (with alot of help from the FTF) to get put of debt and build cash reserves.
However, I am peeved that yet again to help fund the redevelopment when it feels to me at least they are not being transparent. I have alot of questions...
How much are they expecting members and supporters to contribute?
Are they going to borrow?
The project's now a $100 million project, how much of that do they have?
Have a few others but that's enough for now
Just wish they'd give us more detai. The lack of detail is IMHO incredibly disappointing
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Georgie is spot on. I'm not giving them one cent. What i give us enough without telling us why in full detail.
3 flags in recent times and they are still struggling for money. Wiild.
Either we can't manage money properly, we don't have good negotiators and/or the corrupt little thing called afl hate us.
Have a read of this and you wonder why supporters are peeed off having asked to contribute to a big 4 club.
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There isn’t a club in the land that can fund a redevelopment solely on their own.
Now whether asking club members to chip in is a good idea is certainly debatable. I would have thought a large chunk of this should be contributed by local/state government as well as the MCC as the redevelopment involves upgrades to Yarra Park as well.
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There isn’t a club in the land that can fund a redevelopment solely on their own.
Now whether asking club members to chip in is a good idea is certainly debatable. I would have thought a large chunk of this should be contributed by local/state government as well as the MCC as the redevelopment involves upgrades to Yarra Park as well.
The state government has already contributed. Think they've done their bit. Yarra Council who knows? But agree they and the MCC should drop in some coin. But having said that how do we know if they have or haven't? Club is failing us by not giving us more detail. Which is the reason for my angst.
Georgie is spot on. I'm not giving them one cent. What i give us enough without telling us why in full detail.
3 flags in recent times and they are still struggling for money. Wiild.
Either we can't manage money properly, we don't have good negotiators and/or the corrupt little thing called afl hate us
Another silly statement Frankie. Who said they're struggling with money and can't manage it properly?
The 2023 financials clearly show that isn't the case over $55 mil in cash & investments shows that things are being managed well. Of that $55mil, $35 mil of it is the monies received from the govt for the redevelopment. Money that they can't be used for anything else. Also what is clear (you don't need to be Einstein to work it out) that they earning interest on those monies. That's good managment
See: http://oneeyed-richmond.com/forum/index.php?topic=33170.0
Not sure what the AFL has got to with it TBH? They have only given limited $$ to Club cover the last 5-10 years. The Bulldogs didn't get much out of HQ for their most recent redevelopment. But having said I throw them in with a Yarra Council and the MCC who knows if they've given anything? No detail makes it near on impossible to give them a whack when we don't know
Finally, what is obvious from the 2023 financials and from this fundraising announcement is the Club needs more money to cover cost of the redevelopment.
As TK said no Club funds these things on their own. Our Club and to a large degree through its members has worked too hard to be debt free. I can only imagine the outcry on here if we were to end up there again. If we did; that would be mismanagement.
As I posted above the lack of detail (I call it transparency) around how much they currently have, what's needed and what the overall plan is to get this redevelopment done is the thing that has me peeved.
I just think we deserve to be treated with a bit more respect than what's been shown this week
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if they weren't struggling or cant manage their debt then why hit up the members? Good management would have been to start this before construction before prices went through the roof. That is not smart business as im led to believe the permit was not issued yesterday :shh
the cattery was fully funded by state and federal governments as well as the club was it not?
so 35 mil from RFC, 15 mil from federal and state (30 mil), that is 65 mil. Zero from city of yarra, mcc?
Seems like members are asked to front up the extra construction costs because this stupid government has nfi what is going on, and RFC were too slow to get their arses moving?
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if they weren't struggling or cant manage their debt then why hit up the members? Good management would have been to start this before construction before prices went through the roof. That is not smart business as im led to believe the permit was not issued yesterday :shh
absolutely agree it should have been started earlier, even allowing for the over 12 month delay due to hearing around getting the OK to demolish of the JD Stand. It should have been started. they said it was to start last October it and it didn't and now here we are :banghead
And BTW currently the Club has no debt so I'm not sure how one manages a debt that doesn't exist
the cattery was fully funded by state and federal governments as well as the club was it not?
Yes and No. The State Govt completely funded the last stage. Prior to that Fed, State and Geelong funded the other 3 stages. I think people forget that Geelong are still here today because when they were broke instead of playing off their debt, the creditors accepted some miserly amount of $0.05 in the dollar. they also had a very generous benefactor who used to be their president.
so 35 mil from RFC, 15 mil from federal and state (30 mil), that is 65 mil. Zero from city of yarra, mcc?
I'm fascinated as to where this $35mil from the Club figure comes from? It keeps being bandied about but is anyone 100% certain?
As I said previously we have no idea if the MCC, City of Melb (Not Yarra Council) or the AFL are or have contributed anything because we haven't been told.
Seems like members are asked to front up the extra construction costs because this stupid government has nfi what is going on, and RFC were too slow to get their arses moving?
Again what exactly are you expecting the State govt to do? Give more money? This is the same State Govt we kept getting told has sent the State broke.
And seriously what has the State government got to do with the fact the project still hasn't started after the gave their money back in 2020 and the Minister granted final approval in 2022?
I know many on here have no time for the AFLW but our women got shunted off PRO to Ikon Park last season because works were supposed to start on October 2023 but didn't. And now based on what the Club is saying works will start later this year and our AFLW team will shunted to god knows where for this season.... they deserve better. And just remember that one of the major reasons that ALL clubs have and are receiving funding from both levels of Govt is to improve facilities for women's sport....
I'll keep harping on about but we need and deserve more detail. There is so much speculation around so much of this project now when there shouldn't be. You can't ask members and supporters to stump up donations during a cost of living crisis without giving some respect and that means details
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if they weren't struggling or cant manage their debt then why hit up the members? Good management would have been to start this before construction before prices went through the roof. That is not smart business as im led to believe the permit was not issued yesterday :shh
absolutely agree it should have been started earlier, even allowing for the over 12 month delay due to hearing around getting the OK to demolish of the JD Stand. It should have been started. they said it was to start last October it and it didn't and now here we are :banghead
And BTW currently the Club has no debt so I'm not sure how one manages a debt that doesn't exist
the cattery was fully funded by state and federal governments as well as the club was it not?
Yes and No. The State Govt completely funded the last stage. Prior to that Fed, State and Geelong funded the other 3 stages. I think people forget that Geelong are still here today because when they were broke instead of playing off their debt, the creditors accepted some miserly amount of $0.05 in the dollar. they also had a very generous benefactor who used to be their president.
so 35 mil from RFC, 15 mil from federal and state (30 mil), that is 65 mil. Zero from city of yarra, mcc?
I'm fascinated as to where this $35mil from the Club figure comes from? It keeps being bandied about but is anyone 100% certain?
As I said previously we have no idea if the MCC, City of Melb (Not Yarra Council) or the AFL are or have contributed anything because we haven't been told.
Seems like members are asked to front up the extra construction costs because this stupid government has nfi what is going on, and RFC were too slow to get their arses moving?
Again what exactly are you expecting the State govt to do? Give more money? This is the same State Govt we kept getting told has sent the State broke.
And seriously what has the State government got to do with the fact the project still hasn't started after the gave their money back in 2020 and the Minister granted final approval in 2022?
I know many on here have no time for the AFLW but our women got shunted off PRO to Ikon Park last season because works were supposed to start on October 2023 but didn't. And now based on what the Club is saying works will start later this year and our AFLW team will shunted to god knows where for this season.... they deserve better. And just remember that one of the major reasons that ALL clubs have and are receiving funding from both levels of Govt is to improve facilities for women's sport....
I'll keep harping on about but we need and deserve more detail. There is so much speculation around so much of this project now when there shouldn't be. You can't ask members and supporters to stump up donations during a cost of living crisis without giving some respect and that means details
💯 agree with that if your going yo ask the members to fork out where is the transparency ??. Provide more information or publicly or send letters or through email etc. Looks like off field we're waiting for thinks to happen and now have no choice.Its all good to bragging we got 100k members etc , but then you ask them for donations without the full details is a bit rich from the club and Benny for me.This has been handled messy.
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(https://resources.richmondfc.com.au/photo-resources/2024/04/29/4ab28a5d-0101-4fcd-95ec-09e5aa3c006c/kmKXBV92.jpg?width=1240) (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jiSLEU9c1Bs)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jiSLEU9c1Bs
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..From the Game Day Hub page on the Club's website
"Saturday’s game against the Bulldogs will be the Club’s inaugural Strong & Bold Foundation Match - with Richmond promoting the importance of donations towards the Punt Road Oval redevelopment.
By supporting the ‘Brick by Brick’ campaign the Tiger Army can help salvage the original bricks from the Jack Dyer Stand, so they can be built into the new facility.
You can help build our future, Tiger Army!"
https://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/1547794/game-day-hub-round-9-2024
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...and no doubt we'll put in a performance to inspire the opening of wallets..... :shh
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Going by the AFLW draw for season 2024 it looks like works are not likely to start before November >:(
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Fairly pathetic given we moved all last seasons AFLW home games to accomodate the building works
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From the Prez:
Our recent Strong and Bold Foundation match against the Western Bulldog was a great success and raised important funds that will support the delivery of the Punt Road Oval redevelopment. Our “Brick by Brick” campaign has already raised more than $250,000 and I thank every person who has donated. We all know how critical this project is to the future of our Club. The ambition is for us to commence works by the end of this year.
Source: RFC website.
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Lmao...only 34.75 million to go...:help :facepalm
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Lmao...only 34.75 million to go...:help :facepalm
Umm no,
You haven't included the $10mil the Club is putting in.
So by my maths it's $24.75mil to go
Not that we know the exact number as the haven't said, for reasons that only they can explain
What concerns me more is the last sentence... in 4 weeks it appears starting seens to have gone from 3rd qtr of 2024 to "by the end of the year"
:help
:banghead
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John O'Rourke spoke to the Club XIII group at half time of the Bulldogs game. The project is shovel ready. Cost is $100M if we start this year. He indicated a strong desire to start in Dec. We have a bit over 80% of the funds to date from a combination of:
- Fed and State Gov,
- City of Yarra,
- MCC
- Benefactors
- Club
Looking to get to 90/95%+ so as not to put the club into an insurmountable debt. We raise another $10 mill and we should be good to go. This Saturday should help.
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John O'Rourke spoke to the Club XIII group at half time of the Bulldogs game. The project is shovel ready. Cost is $100M if we start this year. He indicated a strong desire to start in Dec. We have a bit over 80% of the funds to date from a combination of:
- Fed and State Gov,
- City of Yarra,
- MCC
- Benefactors
- Club
Looking to get to 90/95%+ so as not to put the club into an insurmountable debt. We raise another $10 mill and we should be good to go. This Saturday should help.
I was there that night and I have to disagree with starting in December, he said late 3rd qtr or early 4th qtr of 2024 which to me means Sept or October. He repeated that when someone from our table stopped him for a quick chat on his way out.
While I understand the not wanting to go into "insurmountable" debt (the Club cannot and shouldn't do that) and in a perfect world you'd avoid any debt the fact is the Club needs to be prepared to borrow to get this project done.
If the plan is to wait until they get to 95% then in the current economic climate we are looking at another delay and for me at least that is unacceptable. There have been enough delays (again just my take)
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Clubs gunna end up folding over this shyte.....start getting the tin cans ready.... :facepalm
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They have completely stuffed this up IMO. Permit issued when prices werent through the roof and we were playing descent footy, so whose bright idea was to delay the start?
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If dealing with government grants from state and fed governments (especially when involving funds promised by the previous liberal government before the last federal election) is the same for AFL clubs as it is for local clubs, then I can fully understand why this project has been delayed.
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If dealing with government grants from state and fed governments (especially when involving funds promised by the previous liberal government before the last federal election) is the same for AFL clubs as it is for local clubs, then I can fully understand why this project has been delayed.
Govt funding not an issue here, already been received both Fed and State
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I would have thought our Pres has these type of projects for breakfast given his background.
So maybe the club is just being prudent .
To be honest I’m not sure what to make of all this , a bit above my head
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John O'Rourke spoke to the Club XIII group at half time of the Bulldogs game. The project is shovel ready. Cost is $100M if we start this year. He indicated a strong desire to start in Dec. We have a bit over 80% of the funds to date from a combination of:
- Fed and State Gov,
- City of Yarra,
- MCC
- Benefactors
- Club
Looking to get to 90/95%+ so as not to put the club into an insurmountable debt. We raise another $10 mill and we should be good to go. This Saturday should help.
I was there that night and I have to disagree with starting in December, he said late 3rd qtr or early 4th qtr of 2024 which to me means Sept or October. He repeated that when someone from our table stopped him for a quick chat on his way out.
While I understand the not wanting to go into "insurmountable" debt (the Club cannot and shouldn't do that) and in a perfect world you'd avoid any debt the fact is the Club needs to be prepared to borrow to get this project done.
If the plan is to wait until they get to 95% then in the current economic climate we are looking at another delay and for me at least that is unacceptable. There have been enough delays (again just my take)
Agree with this wait to raise the other 15% or so we will be delayed again. Hasn't been handled well at all this situation.
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If dealing with government grants from state and fed governments (especially when involving funds promised by the previous liberal government before the last federal election) is the same for AFL clubs as it is for local clubs, then I can fully understand why this project has been delayed.
Scomo 2019
Skumdrews 2020
Permit issued 2022
Funding or permits wasnt an issue IMO.
I bet they weren't focused on the job at hand and thought rates would stay low forever. Badly handled this one, and like others were caught up in the building cost crisis.
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Well, we haven’t had the favours down at Pork Barrel stadium where their $160m upgrade was entirely funded by your taxes.
People are quick to jump on us but the crap others get without any actual management skill is breathtaking
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Well, we haven’t had the favours down at Pork Barrel stadium where their $160m upgrade was entirely funded by your taxes.
People are quick to jump on us but the crap others get without any actual management skill is breathtaking
how much did they get HRT? I have no idea
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Well, we haven’t had the favours down at Pork Barrel stadium where their $160m upgrade was entirely funded by your taxes.
People are quick to jump on us but the crap others get without any actual management skill is breathtaking
how much did they get HRT? I have no idea
Shed loads, I seem 5o recall that they just got another $4m to upgrade their scoreboard. No need for them to try & find more money to do it. :banghead
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If dealing with government grants from state and fed governments (especially when involving funds promised by the previous liberal government before the last federal election) is the same for AFL clubs as it is for local clubs, then I can fully understand why this project has been delayed.
Scomo 2019
Skumdrews 2020
Permit issued 2022
Funding or permits wasnt an issue IMO.
I bet they weren't focused on the job at hand and thought rates would stay low forever. Badly handled this one, and like others were caught up in the building cost crisis.
That’s when the money was promised but when it gets delivered is another story. Our club has been since the federal and state elections and it still hasn’t been released despite the projects being shovel ready. It’s a nightmare.
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Watching VFL at Swinburne Centre is terrible.
Some seating would be nice if they ever get started with
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If dealing with government grants from state and fed governments (especially when involving funds promised by the previous liberal government before the last federal election) is the same for AFL clubs as it is for local clubs, then I can fully understand why this project has been delayed.
Scomo 2019
Skumdrews 2020
Permit issued 2022
Funding or permits wasnt an issue IMO.
I bet they weren't focused on the job at hand and thought rates would stay low forever. Badly handled this one, and like others were caught up in the building cost crisis.
That’s when the money was promised but when it gets delivered is another story. Our club has been since the federal and state elections and it still hasn’t been released despite the projects being shovel ready. It’s a nightmare.
I will repeat what I posted the other day
They have received the promised funding...it's all in the financials
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Well, we haven’t had the favours down at Pork Barrel stadium where their $160m upgrade was entirely funded by your taxes.
People are quick to jump on us but the crap others get without any actual management skill is breathtaking
how much did they get HRT? I have no idea
Spoke to a guy at the footy a few weeks ago. All was funded by your taxes. Could tell you so much more about the piece of crap running our state but needless to say - we need to raise funds more legitimately
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"Looking to the future, I am pleased to inform you that your support has allowed us to raise $482,000 for the Brick by Brick campaign, bringing us closer to the most significant build in our Club’s history: the redevelopment of Punt Road Oval.
Our Major Raffle and donations from Punt Road Patrons also saw the Tiger Army fund an additional $327,000 towards our sustained future in Richmond. We cannot thank those who donated enough."
Source: Prez's email.
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lmao.... :help
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On track to raise the funds by the turn of the century…..
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(http://oneeyed-richmond.com/images/finances/2024FinancialsPRORedevelopment.png)
- RFC President John O'Rourke
https://resources.richmondfc.com.au/aflc-rich/document/2024/11/21/cc9e8146-f2a6-444d-a6b3-6fc72b85a2de/2024-Concise-Financial-Report.pdf
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What an incredibly slow process this has been.
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According to the Prez.
* Jack Dyer Stand demolished by early next year.
* Tender for the new stand by March.
* Completed by 2027.
* Ready for the men's competition by 2028 season.
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According to the Prez.
* Jack Dyer Stand demolished by early next year.
* Tender for the new stand by March.
* Completed by 2027.
* Ready for the men's competition by 2028 season.
When was it originally meant to be finished ?
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Last year?
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According to the Prez.
* Jack Dyer Stand demolished by early next year.
* Tender for the new stand by March.
* Completed by 2027.
* Ready for the men's competition by 2028 season.
When was it originally meant to be finished ?
I don't recall a stated completion date but given our AFLW side was forced to play home games at Princes Park the season before because construction was meant to start then, I'd guess it's 1-2 years behind what was originally planned.
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How far behind schedule is this?
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How far behind schedule is this?
Originally they said finished by 2023
But...
We got the permits approved end of 2022 after some heritage group tried to get the JD stand heritage listed. That caused a 12 month delay
So they then said work was supposed to start Oct 2023 hence why our AFLW team played home games last year at Princes Park
Then it was supposed to start early to mid this year to be completed sometime near the end of 2025
Now they are saying it will be finished in 2027
So all up I reckon it is safe to say it's 2-3 years behind schedule
I was at the Club on Monday and was told alot of the staff will be moving to temp offices over the next few weeks
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One of Multiplex's major subcontractor went broke , when it was re-priced, there was a $12M increase.
Back to the drawing board from there
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One of Multiplex's major subcontractor went broke , when it was re-priced, there was a $12M increase.
Back to the drawing board from there
I a, aware of that
But... some of delays have been due to the Club’s reluctance to start once the planning permits were approved. From initial approval to appointing Multiplex was close to 12 months
Then we've had this year's fund-raising mess and here we are, still waiting
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Gale for me botched this up and part to blame like it or not for me made some odd decisions
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1983 vibes. :help
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Gale for me botched this up and part to blame like it or not for me made some odd decisions
Can't agree
All decisions made around the redevelopment have to be approved by the board.
The blame here goes to the collective not one individual
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Gale for me botched this up and part to blame like it or not for me made some odd decisions
Can't agree
All decisions made around the redevelopment have to be approved by the board.
The blame here goes to the collective not one individual
Fair point and agree. In saying that Gale was running the project and who's bright idea was the brick and fundraising that was embarrassing. Rather the club was upfront from the begging members we're left in the dark way to long not enough transparency.
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I am assuming the cost inflation coupled with the ridiculous funding the building industry has received from all the ridiculous spending of the state government has made this project so much more difficult to fund and/or get started.
It doesn’t help we are not on a level playing field in funding with Geelong’s $160m grandstand and training facilities being bank rolled by the state govt.
We might have our own issues but seriously pushing it uphill on this one through other, external factors
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no matter how you dress it up the club has stuffed this up. Inflation was running hot in 2022/3 so why didnt they lock in a builder prior to this, and commence straight way
also was approved mid 2022?
when you rely on the state government to sort you out with funding you end up with absolute chaos.
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no matter how you dress it up the club has stuffed this up. Inflation was running hot in 2022/3 so why didnt they lock in a builder prior to this, and commence straight way
also was approved mid 2022?
when you rely on the state government to sort you out with funding you end up with absolute chaos.
💯 and let's forget we had good 5 years of sustained successes winning 3 flags should have capitalised on it .
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Will be playing in Cairns again to pay for this folly. :shh
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no matter how you dress it up the club has stuffed this up. Inflation was running hot in 2022/3 so why didnt they lock in a builder prior to this, and commence straight way
also was approved mid 2022?
when you rely on the state government to sort you out with funding you end up with absolute chaos.
From Dec 2022
http://oneeyed-richmond.com/forum/index.php?topic=27449.msg737301#msg737301
Says permits approved late 2022, going out to tender in 2023 with builder to be appointed 2nd qtr of 2023
Only $15 mill fprmcthe state gpvt Frankie, and $15-$20 mil from the federal govt.
no matter how you dress it up the club has stuffed this up. Inflation was running hot in 2022/3 so why didnt they lock in a builder prior to this, and commence straight way
also was approved mid 2022?
when you rely on the state government to sort you out with funding you end up with absolute chaos.
💯 and let's forget we had good 5 years of sustained successes winning 3 flags should have capitalised on it .
Incredibly simplistic. 5 years of sustained success doesn't mean you have a spare $50 mil lying around ::)
Not sure how you've come up with your assumption
Agree they should have started earlier but it is clear the Club has not wanted to go into large debt. And I have no issue with that.
But they should have started earlier this year. Perception to a degree is everything and if people saw they were going ahead and doing this then they actually would have had more success with their fundraising endeavours
Waiting has cost them. Granted no one would have foreseen the season from hell we had but the season from he
Has a had a massive impact
Finally re this:
Fair point and agree. In saying that Gale was running the project and who's bright idea was the brick and fundraising that was embarrassing. Rather the club was upfront from the begging members we're left in the dark way to long not enough transparency.
There's a board sub committee regarding the development and it would have been their collective idea around the brick by brick campaign. Yes as CEO Benny would have been heavily in actioning the plans but again to suggest he is the sole person instigating the plans is ...well.. wrong
Absolutely, agree they needed to be more open about the entire drawn out saga.
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no matter how you dress it up the club has stuffed this up. Inflation was running hot in 2022/3 so why didnt they lock in a builder prior to this, and commence straight way
also was approved mid 2022?
when you rely on the state government to sort you out with funding you end up with absolute chaos.
It wasn’t possible to get labour at half decent pricing through this time because your tax was overpaying the same labour double the rates to build infrastructure that we don’t need or waited too long to start.
I am not proposing we rely on state govt money but contrasting what has happened to the cats.
I struggle with one dimensional, ignorant posting. Sending my apologies in advance for challenging your ill informed diatribe.
Kind Regards.
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As a president of a sporting club that is undergoing major renovations to the tune of millions, it’s been a frustratingly slow process. You pay $60k for a master plan, you get funding promises from both sides of politics at state and federal level. Then you have to consult ( the objections are ludicrous), then it goes to tender, then the money goes to local government, then they hold onto it for as long they can ( it’s earning them interest), then the funding gets released to the successful tender who don’t have capacity to start straight away……it was a 8 year process for us.
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There are ways to get things done very quickly.
Some people just need a little extra motivation to get the paperwork and permits done.
Make them an offer they can't refuse. :rollin
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The Doozy's have arrived....
Fragments from a doomed grandstand
#PuntRdOval #gotiges
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Gfd-n96aIAA67QO?format=jpg&name=small)
https://x.com/Jonesracing82/status/1871106618689245278
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Due to the impending redevelopment of Punt Road Oval, the VFL Tigers will be playing home games at various venues throughout the season.
Source: RFC website (https://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/1721608/richmonds-2025-vfl-fixture-confirmed)
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‘Impending’
It’s been yearssssss since this went to tender
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This whole process has been a complete balls up so far.
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First muted in 2018
Announced it was going to happen 2020
After appeal by some group planning permits finally granted late 2021 or early 2022
Told it would start in late 2022 early 2023 with completion end of 2024
2025 and it still hasn't started but will sometime in the next couple of months and won't be finished until 2027...
Nearly 10 years in the making :-\
To say it's been a long drawn our statement is an understatement. Little wonder members a d supporters are frustrated
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First muted in 2018
Announced it was going to happen 2020
After appeal by some group planning permits finally granted late 2021 or early 2022
Told it would start in late 2022 early 2023 with completion end of 2024
2025 and it still hasn't started but will sometime in the next couple of months and won't be finished until 2027...
Nearly 10 years in the making :-\
To say it's been a long drawn our statement is an understatement. Little wonder members a d supporters are frustrated
serious, only 7 years since conception.
Research Hawthorns Dingley project
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serious, only 7 years since conception.
Research Hawthorns Dingley project
Not comparing apples with apples Taz
Dingley is a starting from scratch project. Which in the beginning had no govt funding thanks to their former president
Since they got their funding they've gone full throttle and it's almost finished. The actual turnaround from when they got their permits to construction commencing to completion will be much quicker than us.
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serious, only 7 years since conception.
Research Hawthorns Dingley project
Not comparing apples with apples Taz
Dingley is a starting from scratch project. Which in the beginning had no govt funding thanks to their former president
Since they got their funding they've gone full throttle and it's almost finished. The actual turnaround from when they got their permits to construction commencing to completion will be much quicker than us.
:lol "Thanks to the former president" Thats very funny.
Kennett should have just bent over and take it like a true commo. To get the "funding' right.
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serious, only 7 years since conception.
Research Hawthorns Dingley project
Not comparing apples with apples Taz
Dingley is a starting from scratch project. Which in the beginning had no govt funding thanks to their former president
Since they got their funding they've gone full throttle and it's almost finished. The actual turnaround from when they got their permits to construction commencing to completion will be much quicker than us.
:lol "Thanks to the former president" Thats very funny.
Kennett should have just bent over and take it like a true commo. To get the "funding' right.
What's so funny Frankie?
It's a known fact.
Even good old Jeff sooked it up because Hawthorn didnt get funding while he was president. He claimed in his sooking that they didn't get funding because he was critical of the govt and the then Premier. Within 6 months of him going from Hawthorn they got funding.
Or in your world us it just pure coincidence?
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CEO Shane Dunne provided an update on the Punt Road Oval redevelopment which is due to commence imminently.
“The Punt Road redevelopment is a significant project we continue to work on,” he said.
“We are really close to appointing a builder, so we are working through that process at the moment. But it is going to take a lot still to get this done and there is still a funding shortfall.
“We are hugely thankful to our funding partners, particularly the Federal and State Governments and the many in the Tiger Army who have contributed to this redevelopment.
“There is still a way to go, and we are going to continue to fundraise as we progress the project, but it's getting ever so close now and it is a really exciting phase for us, and I can't wait to see the building come out of the ground.”
Source: RFC website (https://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/1726412/richmond-targets-85000-members-by-round-1)
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Will be the club's headstone. :help
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Will be the club's headstone. :help
That's the spirit
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Will be the club's headstone. :help
That's the spirit
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:gotigers
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Just on my way home from the CLUB XIII season launch. The CEO was a guest speaker. Was asked a number of questions re the redevelopment. Gave honest answers
Personally now feeling more confident in the project now. Still peeved with the delays and the new timeline te completion but certainly confident about it getting done
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From SEN:
CEO Shane Dunne touched on the impending redevelopment of Punt Road Oval and the club’s desire to stay put in the heart of Richmond.
“Our ultimate goal is to keep Richmond in Richmond,” he said of the club’s iconic home base.
“We want us to remain at Punt Road for generations to come. To do that, with having only one oval, we’ve got to redo the oval, so there’ll be a period of our team where our team does need to train off site.
“We’ll minimise disruption to the team as much as possible over the next couple of years, but it will mean we have to train somewhere else for a period of time.”
The Tigers have entered a full rebuild in the wake of their successful three-premiership era.
Well before that back in 2010, Dunne’s predecessor Brendon Gale famously made a bold prediction by stating that the Tigers would win three flags and erase their debt by 2020. It remarkably came true.
But the fledgling chief says he is not in a position to make a similarly daring projection.
“I haven’t been as bold to put a number on that yet,” Dunne said when asked for a Gale-style prediction.
“It’s probably the most common question I get. Someone says to me, ‘Can’t you just go and say we’ll win five in seven or something ridiculous like that and aim for it’.
“But you think back to that time and the club was on its knees when Brendon came in. Not only on the field but off the field. That’s not where we’re at right now.
“Clearly we’re going to have visions and strategic plans that we’re working on and we’re well underway on that now. We know exactly where we’re headed with the list strategy in place, off-field we’ve got our major redevelopment, and there’s a whole range of things we’ve got to tick off in our strategic plan.
“We’ll build that next vision in the coming weeks and months.”
Source: SEN (https://www.sen.com.au/news/2025/03/12/new-richmond-ceo-comments-on-yzes-apparent-lack-of-aura)
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CEO Shane Dunne on Talking Tigers podcast today:
* We're incredibly close to starting. Admitted he has been saying that for a while but we are.
* It's a significantly complex project.
* A couple of last hurdles just crossing now.
* There will be a period where we will need to redo the oval. Likely during the men's offseason when the weather will be better for grass growth. Will affect AFLW team. So, we'll need alternative training options. Other clubs have done this too so we can learn from their experience.
Go to 3:07 min mark: https://www.richmondfc.com.au/video/1758043/shane-dunne-joins-talking-tigers
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CEO Shane Dunne says he is hoping to be able to make an announcement in a couple of weeks about the redevelopment starting. He is still saying we've got a couple of things to tick off first.
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CEO Shane Dunne says he is hoping to be able to make an announcement in a couple of weeks about the redevelopment starting. He is still saying we've got a couple of things to tick off first.
Didn't he say "in a couple of weeks" a couple of weeks ago? Just like our injury reports. ::)
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CEO Shane Dunne says he is hoping to be able to make an announcement in a couple of weeks about the redevelopment starting. He is still saying we've got a couple of things to tick off first.
Didn't he say "in a couple of weeks" a couple of weeks ago? Just like our injury reports. ::)
Honestly it’s been 3+ years. I don’t wanna hear another word about this thing until a shovel hits the dirt.
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CEO Shane Dunne says he is hoping to be able to make an announcement in a couple of weeks about the redevelopment starting. He is still saying we've got a couple of things to tick off first.
Didn't he say "in a couple of weeks" a couple of weeks ago? Just like our injury reports. ::)
Honestly it’s been 3+ years. I don’t wanna hear another word about this thing until a shovel hits the dirt.
Agree TK
Sick of hearing about it
When there’s some bloody action , let everyone know
Until then, the words are just empty
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CEO Shane Dunne says he is hoping to be able to make an announcement in a couple of weeks about the redevelopment starting. He is still saying we've got a couple of things to tick off first.
Didn't he say "in a couple of weeks" a couple of weeks ago? Just like our injury reports. ::)
Honestly it’s been 3+ years. I don’t wanna hear another word about this thing until a shovel hits the dirt.
Agree TK
Sick of hearing about it
When there’s some bloody action , let everyone know
Until then, the words are just empty
Yep, agree
One of the biggest parts of this project is knocking down the old JD Stand so they can preserve some of the "artefacts", not sure why they haven't started on that
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Well my mail is that the redevelopment is starting soon. :rollin
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Well my mail is that the redevelopment is starting soon. :rollin
Finally
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I heard it was a couple of weeks away a couple of weeks ago….