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Title: My worst loss - Wallace (RFC site)
Post by: one-eyed on April 01, 2006, 02:50:56 AM
My worst loss: Wallace
11:16:40 PM Fri 31 March, 2006
Andrew Wu
Exclusive to afl.com.au

Richmond coach Terry Wallace has described his team's season-opening 115-point drubbing as the worst of his career.

Missing seasoned quartet Mark Chaffey, Ray Hall, Trent Knobel and Greg Stafford - who have 509 games experience between them - the Tigers fielded a raw outfit containing six players who had played less than 30 games.

And their greenness showed in the second half when the Bulldogs completely overran the hapless Tigers, kicking 16 goals to two, leaving Wallace and his match committee powerless to stop the onslaught.

The Tigers coach stemmed the flow momentarily by throwing forwards Matthew Richardson and comeback kid Nathan Brown into defence as loose players, but the slaughter continued in the last term once the Tigers resorted to one-on-one football.

"I think they only got two goals after the period when we took Richo and Brownie back there. But it makes for pretty ugly football where you're then going down our end and have to kick sideways and don't look likely to score when that happens," Wallace said.

 
"It's just embarrassing for everyone to have to play that sort of football so we structured up at three-quarter time to play them on their merits again and they kicked five goals in five minutes and we have to go back to that same stuff again."

While Wallace will wait until he reviews the video before deciding whether to tear into his players, he said the way in which the team bounces back next Friday night against St Kilda would reveal its true character.

"We can do nothing about what happened tonight. You can sit there and lick your wounds and do whatever you like, we can do zero about it now," Wallace said.

"What we have the ability to do is be able to do something about the manner which we go about next week."

"I can't recall a worse one (loss) but the sun comes up tomorrow and we've got 21 more games to come."

Fielding a youthful team, Wallace was disappointed at his leaders and their inability to show the way when the Bulldogs started getting on top.

"We were an inexperienced side and when things start to fall apart, when your senior blokes aren't standing up and doing the job, it's very hard to expect kids that have played under a season to be showing the way," he lamented.

"The senior players that we've had in our side over the past three or four years weren't able to do the job, so we've had to put young players in."

"I think the Western Bulldogs went through exactly the same thing under Peter Rohde where those guys when they had a few games under their belt they were getting belted a few times."

"What happens is eventually they grow up and become mentally stronger about it all and when they get the opportunity then, they enjoy belting a few others back like the Doggies did tonight."

http://afl.com.au/default.asp?pg=news&spg=display&articleid=254048
Title: Re: My worst loss - Wallace (RFC site)
Post by: one-eyed on April 01, 2006, 03:07:10 AM
My worst loss, says Wallace
By Chloe Saltau
The Age
April 1, 2006

Terry Wallace last night described Richmond's "devastating" 115-point round-one loss to the Western Bulldogs as the worst defeat of his 171-match coaching career.

Wallace said Tigers fans had a right to be disgusted with team's first effort for the new season, adding that the players were "absolutely smashed in and around the footy" after half-time, when the margin was a redeemable 29 points.

"I don't think there's a person down in the Richmond change rooms who doesn't feel the same way," said Wallace, who must find a way of pulling the demoralised club together for next week's clash with St Kilda. "I've got to take responsibility for the result as the senior coach of the football club, but we absolutely felt we were ready for the season proper."

Hurting after the embarrassing loss to his old club, Wallace said he would appeal to his players' sense of pride in the jumper this week but was not yet sure whether to have a blow-by-blow post-mortem or drop the tapes in the bin and move on.

"There's the easy option of saying, 'Forget about it and get on with the next one,' " Wallace said. "But there's a lot you can learn sometimes. Until I see it in the cold hard light of day, I'm not sure which way I'll go about it."

The Bulldogs, who outran and outmuscled their opponents all over the ground, at the final siren were only a goal away from their biggest winning margin over any team. Wallace, meantime, was struggling to digest his worst defeat as a coach.

"I think it was (the worst), from what I can recall," Wallace said. "You don't sit back and think about all those wet, wintry days but I can't recall a worse one. The sun comes up tomorrow and we've got 21 games to go. We've got to make sure we get back on the bike and work at it.

"That would be, I think, the largest loss that I've been involved in as a coach and for that to happen in round one is very disappointing. It's a situation where your supporters are waiting and hoping that the season is going to unfold in the right way. It's devastating for everyone involved.

"If they're going to be able to get the ball inside more than 60 times, I really think that was the area we were smashed in tonight. I thought we were competitive until half-time. We were just humbled in the third quarter."

Wallace pointed to the loss of experience of former captain Wayne Campbell, Mark Graham and Rory Hilton, and the absence last night of Greg Stafford, Mark Chaffey and Ray Hall. But this was not an excuse for the size of the blowout, and the coach said he had no hint from his players at the half-time break of the debacle that lay ahead.

"There was a significant amount of heads dropping and that's always disappointing. I thought tonight we allowed the scoreboard to impact on our mentality. I thought they were mentally tired rather than physically tired," said Wallace, who was forced to revert to "ugly footy" by sending extra men to defence to stem the flow.

"It's what you do the following week. We can do nothing about what's happened tonight. You can sit there and lick your wounds but we can do zero about it now. What we have the ability to do is be able to do something about the manner in which we go about next week."

http://www.realfooty.theage.com.au/realfooty/articles/2006/04/01/1143441344833.html
Title: Re: My worst loss - Wallace (RFC site)
Post by: WilliamPowell on April 01, 2006, 07:45:44 PM
The third quarter was without a doubt the worst qtr of footy played since Tezza's been at the Tigers and I reckon the worst quarter we've seen in years.

Having said that there were a couple of goals in that qtr that the doggies got that were all ass  ;D which tends to happen when yuo get a run on like they did

But it was shocking

Actually have I used the word insipid yet :help ;D
Title: Re: My worst loss - Wallace (RFC site)
Post by: Jackstar on April 01, 2006, 07:53:46 PM
Andrew Wu who wrote the first article has no idea.
Says the seasoned quartet were missing, thats true. Fact is they wouldnt get a game at any other AFL club :banghead
Ray Hall has tried to be traded for the past two years. Staff is finished. Knobs has had more clubs than Greg Norman in the past 5 years. And if Chaffey didnt tag, he would of been given the flick. :banghead
Title: Re: My worst loss - Wallace (RFC site)
Post by: Tiger Spirit on April 02, 2006, 09:47:27 PM
Not sure what TW is worried about.  115 points is nothing. :rollin  I was in Adelaide when we got pulverised by Adelaide in about 1997.  The game that got Walls the flick.

Now that was ugly. :yep  Especially having travelled all that way, overnight, on a bus, to see that.  Not that I'm bitter about it or anything. :whistle
Title: Re: My worst loss - Wallace (RFC site)
Post by: mightytiges on April 02, 2006, 10:22:20 PM
I remember Adelaide thumping us by about 100 points in round 1 of Northey's first year at the 'G. All the optimism of making the Fosters Cup GF wiped out in one arvo. IIRC it was where the tearing up of memberships legend began. Some middle-aged bloke was caught on camera on the boundary fence ripping up his card. To top it off the Crows whacked us again by 139 points at Footy park later that year.
Title: Re: My worst loss - Wallace (RFC site)
Post by: Tiger Spirit on April 02, 2006, 10:37:14 PM
Such fond memories.

I could be wrong MT, but think the membership tearing up thing may have actually started back in KB’s time.  I remember listening to a game on the radio and they reported that a disgruntled Richmond supporter had torn up his membership or something, because he was so disgusted with the effort that day.  Maybe that's when it started?
Title: Re: My worst loss - Wallace (RFC site)
Post by: WilliamPowell on April 02, 2006, 10:41:38 PM
Maybe we should make it a trivia question

In what year did tiger fans commence tearing up their memberships....was it

a) 1990
b) 1994
c) 2004

or

d) it's just what some people do

 :help :lol :banghead :wallywink :rollin

 :gotigers
Title: Re: My worst loss - Wallace (RFC site)
Post by: Moi on April 02, 2006, 10:43:17 PM
Not sure what TW is worried about.  115 points is nothing. :rollin  I was in Adelaide when we got pulverised by Adelaide in about 1997.  The game that got Walls the flick.

Now that was ugly. :yep  Especially having travelled all that way, overnight, on a bus, to see that.  Not that I'm bitter about it or anything. :whistle

You sure it wasn't the Essendon game that got him the flick?  We had so many - as the boys would say lol - rogerings, it's hard to keep track of which one actually led to his demise.  Just remember sighing with relief that he was gone.
Title: Re: My worst loss - Wallace (RFC site)
Post by: WilliamPowell on April 02, 2006, 10:46:17 PM
You sure it wasn't the Essendon game that got him the flick?  We had so many - as the boys would say lol - rogerings, it's hard to keep track of which one actually led to his demise.  Just remember sighing with relief that he was gone.

No it was definitely the Adelaide game Moi - we actually came out and beat Footscray the foolowing week at Princes Park in Gieschen's first game.
Title: Re: My worst loss - Wallace (RFC site)
Post by: mightytiges on April 02, 2006, 10:51:39 PM
Such fond memories.

I could be wrong MT, but think the membership tearing up thing may have actually started back in KB’s time.  I remember listening to a game on the radio and they reported that a disgruntled Richmond supporter had torn up his membership or something, because he was so disgusted with the effort that day.  Maybe that's when it started?


No you may be right TS. Someone waved something at KB. I can't remember which game. Might have been the night North kicking 13 goals in the first quarter against us.
Title: Re: My worst loss - Wallace (RFC site)
Post by: Moi on April 02, 2006, 10:51:59 PM
We got absolutely destroyed by the Bombers and i remember having a smoke with Jimmy Malone at half time, telling him he had to get rid of this guy.  I think the boys went away on a camp to get away from it all for the week after.  ANd whether they played Adelaide the following week, it would have been one of them.  Anyway, the great hero Geischen took over and we were all happy again and winning - well, for a couple of weeks anyway  :rollin
Title: Re: My worst loss - Wallace (RFC site)
Post by: Moi on April 02, 2006, 10:58:49 PM
You were right WP and TS - i plead oldtimers lol

Here's 1997 relevant results  :banghead

Round 13
Day Date        Home            Away          Ground    Details:
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Sat 28-Jun    Richmond          Essendon       MCG
 4.10 (34)         19.13 (127)

Round 15
Day Date        Home            Away          Ground    Details:
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              Richmond          Hawthorn       MCG
              22.13 (145)       10.9 (69)
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Round 17
Day Date        Home            Away          Ground    Details:
-------------------------------------------------------------------
              Adelaide          Richmond       FP       Night
              29.11 (185)       7.6 (48)
Round 18
Day Date        Home            Away          Ground    Details:
-------------------------------------------------------------------
              Richmond          Wstn Bulldogs  OO
              17.13 (115)       15.10 (100)

We were going good in round 15 - or maybe the Hawks had their own problems lol
Title: Re: My worst loss - Wallace (RFC site)
Post by: mightytiges on April 02, 2006, 11:01:39 PM
We got absolutely destroyed by the Bombers and i remember having a smoke with Jimmy Malone at half time, telling him he had to get rid of this guy.  I think the boys went away on a camp to get away from it all for the week after.  ANd whether they played Adelaide the following week, it would have been one of them.  Anyway, the great hero Geischen took over and we were all happy again and winning - well, for a couple of weeks anyway  :rollin

Yep won 4 of our last 5 games and the reserves flag. Justin Plapp was the second coming and Otto would play 250 champion games for us :lol.
Title: Re: My worst loss - Wallace (RFC site)
Post by: Moi on April 02, 2006, 11:02:37 PM
We got absolutely destroyed by the Bombers and i remember having a smoke with Jimmy Malone at half time, telling him he had to get rid of this guy.  I think the boys went away on a camp to get away from it all for the week after.  ANd whether they played Adelaide the following week, it would have been one of them.  Anyway, the great hero Geischen took over and we were all happy again and winning - well, for a couple of weeks anyway  :rollin

Yep won 4 of our last 5 games and the reserves flag. Justin Plapp was the second coming and Otto would play 250 champion games for us :lol.
Oh mate, we had it all  :ROTFL
Title: Re: My worst loss - Wallace (RFC site)
Post by: Tiger Spirit on April 02, 2006, 11:11:32 PM
No you may be right TS. Someone waved something at KB. I can't remember which game. Might have been the night North kicking 13 goals in the first quarter against us.

The one you were thinking of was played on a Friday night, in about 1990 I think.  The one I was thinking of was played during the day and was probably after that North game, probably not long before KB "resigned".  Have we pin-pointed it now do you think?
Title: Re: My worst loss - Wallace (RFC site)
Post by: mightytiges on April 02, 2006, 11:50:03 PM
No you may be right TS. Someone waved something at KB. I can't remember which game. Might have been the night North kicking 13 goals in the first quarter against us.

The one you were thinking of was played on a Friday night, in about 1990 I think.  The one I was thinking of was played during the day and was probably after that North game, probably not long before KB "resigned".  Have we pin-pointed it now do you think?

KB "resigned" at the end of 1991 so sometime before then  ???.