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Title: Changes for the Norf game?
Post by: one-eyed on May 25, 2019, 10:19:30 PM
No news yet on Lynch.

Soldo is available and possible Lambert is too. Whispers that Cotch might be a chance too.

Fire away with your changes?
Title: Re: Changes for the Norf game?
Post by: Lozza on May 25, 2019, 10:20:28 PM
Looks to be a calf for Lynch.
Title: Re: Changes for the Norf game?
Post by: Jackstar is back!!! on May 25, 2019, 10:39:11 PM
Cotch could of played tonight
So he is a lock in for next week
Soldo plays
CCJ doesn’t
Title: Re: Changes for the Norf game?
Post by: Tiger Khosh on May 26, 2019, 12:33:47 AM
Think it will be:

In: Soldo, Cotchin

Out: CCJ, Menadue
Title: Re: Changes for the Norf game?
Post by: georgies31 on May 26, 2019, 03:37:56 AM
Thought Menadue wasn't that bad at all.
Title: Re: Changes for the Norf game?
Post by: wayne on May 26, 2019, 07:50:31 AM
Rioli needs to pull his finger out.

In. Soldo, Lambert, Cotchin
Out. CCJ, Bolton, Menadue
Title: Re: Changes for the Norf game?
Post by: Owl on May 26, 2019, 09:47:40 AM
Thought Menadue wasn't that bad at all.
Agreed, was good imo
Title: Re: Changes for the Norf game?
Post by: Andyy on May 26, 2019, 09:52:31 AM
Bit hard to see where I was under cover from the rain but I'm not a menadue fan so far. Will watch the replay tho.

Bolton and Baker have to stay. Higgins too. They mark well and hurt the scoreboard / set up play so well. Butler is finito.


So for me Soldo and Cotch in. CCJ and Menadue out.
Title: Re: Changes for the Norf game?
Post by: Rampsation on May 26, 2019, 10:49:12 AM
CCJ isnt ready for AFL footy. 12 months away maybe 18 months. Still he has lots of ability so we must be patient. Soldo comes in.

Cotchin comes Menadue probably comes out but Daniel Rioli was terrible last night.
Title: Re: Changes for the Norf game?
Post by: Slipper on May 26, 2019, 10:52:11 AM
I do think CCJ needs to go back to the VFL for a bit, but to be fair, it is hard to tell where his game is at based on last night's game simply because the conditions didn't suit him.
Title: Re: Changes for the Norf game?
Post by: Tiger Khosh on May 26, 2019, 11:57:02 AM
Thought Menadue was ok last night but honestly who do you think will be making way for Cotchin. I even forgot about lambert who if fit will come straight back in. So now with 2 players having to come out (other than soldo for ccj) I can’t see how Menadue retains his spot unless someone doesn’t pull up from yesterdays game. You’d think that either one of our kp defenders has to come out with vlastuin moving back down to defence or one of our small forwards has to be sacrificed to make way for lambert too.
Title: Re: Changes for the Norf game?
Post by: Assange Tiger 😎 on May 26, 2019, 02:00:59 PM
CCJ isnt ready for AFL footy. 12 months away maybe 18 months. Still he has lots of ability so we must be patient. Soldo comes in.

Cotchin comes Menadue probably comes out but Daniel Rioli was terrible last night.

Most the year..... :shh
Title: Re: Changes for the Norf game?
Post by: mightytiges on May 26, 2019, 02:29:34 PM
In: Soldo, Cotch, Lambert.
Out: CCJ, Menadue, Rioli.
Title: Re: Changes for the Norf game?
Post by: Buddysucks on May 26, 2019, 02:50:59 PM
I was hoping Rioli would really kick it up a gear last night, especially after a few weeks to freshen up.
Title: Re: Changes for the Norf game?
Post by: Assange Tiger 😎 on May 26, 2019, 03:05:18 PM
I'm not Butler's biggest fan, not by a long shot. But how would you feel if you were him right now? He's been consistent in the 2's while Rioli has stunk it up in the ones. They both played reserves last week and Rioli got the nod this week, obviously because of what round it is.

Keep your head up son. You deserve a gig this week
Title: Re: Changes for the Norf game?
Post by: Jackstar is back!!! on May 26, 2019, 05:30:03 PM
Very ordinary Rioli
Butler was much better in the VFL the previous week than Rioli, and Rioli  gets promoted
Gifted a game
Was ordinary last night
Lambert , Cotchin and Soldo back so who goes ?
CCJ .Menadue and ?????
Title: Re: Changes for the Norf game?
Post by: The Machine on May 26, 2019, 09:56:44 PM
Thought Menadue wasn't that bad at all.
Agreed, was good imo


Yes he was good last night. Being played as a defensive forward which is not his go but playing his role very well.
Title: Re: Changes for the Norf game?
Post by: The Machine on May 26, 2019, 09:57:51 PM
I'm not Butler's biggest fan, not by a long shot. But how would you feel if you were him right now? He's been consistent in the 2's while Rioli has stunk it up in the ones. They both played reserves last week and Rioli got the nod this week, obviously because of what round it is.

Keep your head up son. You deserve a gig this week


Rioli was far from poor last night :shh
Title: Re: Changes for the Norf game?
Post by: The Machine on May 26, 2019, 10:00:25 PM
Soldo for CCJ
If Cotchin is fit Gathwaite should make way. Don't need a 4th tall defender against North.
Title: Re: Changes for the Norf game?
Post by: WilliamPowell on May 26, 2019, 10:23:43 PM
INS: Soldo, Cotchin**, Lambert**

OUTS: CCJ, Menadue (very unlucky), Higgins (better last night but still lacking consistency)

**  = if fit
Title: Re: Changes for the Norf game?
Post by: YellowandBlackBlood on May 26, 2019, 10:56:38 PM
Soldo for CCJ
If Cotchin is fit Gathwaite should make way. Don't need a 4th tall defender against North.
Disagree with Garthwaite. Our defence looks a lot more balanced with him there. We are not a tall side. We can't afford to get shorter. We were far too short against the doggies and they were a short side.....
Title: Re: Changes for the Norf game?
Post by: Slipper on May 27, 2019, 07:47:02 AM
Rioli was far from poor last night :shh

I have only seen a TV replay of the game, but I didn't think he was that bad.

I thought it was actually quite a good game from him. Did a lot of little things and was a presence throughout. His stats certainly didn't portray the game he had.
Title: Re: Changes for the Norf game?
Post by: The Machine on May 27, 2019, 08:22:56 AM
Rioli was far from poor last night :shh

I have only seen a TV replay of the game, but I didn't think he was that bad.

I thought it was actually quite a good game from him. Did a lot of little things and was a presence throughout. His stats certainly didn't portray the game he had.


Agreed - i was at the game and he continued to present and pressure all game.
Title: Re: Changes for the Norf game?
Post by: Chuck17 on May 27, 2019, 12:26:08 PM
Rioli was far from poor last night :shh

I have only seen a TV replay of the game, but I didn't think he was that bad.

I thought it was actually quite a good game from him. Did a lot of little things and was a presence throughout. His stats certainly didn't portray the game he had.


Agreed - i was at the game and he continued to present and pressure all game.

You need to excuse people who can only read a stat sheet or listen to infants
Title: Re: Changes for the Norf game?
Post by: Assange Tiger 😎 on May 27, 2019, 12:33:04 PM
I'm not Butler's biggest fan, not by a long shot. But how would you feel if you were him right now? He's been consistent in the 2's while Rioli has stunk it up in the ones. They both played reserves last week and Rioli got the nod this week, obviously because of what round it is.

Keep your head up son. You deserve a gig this week


Rioli was far from poor last night :shh

He was below par, has been most of the year. Pulled out a few times but so did everyone's favourite Bachar Houli. Then again I forgot we only bag out one player at Richmond for that type of thing... :lol
Title: Re: Changes for the Norf game?
Post by: pmac21 on May 27, 2019, 12:42:59 PM
In Soldo, Cotchin, Lambert
Out CCJ, Menadue, Rioli 

Good week to start Cotch at half back. Keep Vlas in the middle.
Title: Re: Changes for the Norf game?
Post by: Diocletian on May 27, 2019, 01:38:41 PM
Glad I'm not the only one who noticed some of the peeweak defensive & contested efforts by Houli had a great game otherwise but Grimes, Edwards & Prestia would've  all been more worthy winners of the Yirooken,,,, :shh

Bellis lucky he made that tackle on Zaharakis - nearly cost us the game with what was up until then one of the most insipid loose- bowled individual quarters seen since his last quarter v Footscray last year that saw him deservedly dropped for the finals ....needs to get his act together -  big audition for him next week...(https://7img.net/users/3115/50/25/04/smiles/162280070.gif):shh :shh
Title: Re: Changes for the Norf game?
Post by: Assange Tiger 😎 on May 27, 2019, 01:55:24 PM
What would have been a 23 disposal game for Houli last year became a 37 disposal game last night due to kickouts counting as disposals now....:shh
Title: Re: Changes for the Norf game?
Post by: big tone on May 27, 2019, 04:58:17 PM
I think Houli has been pretty good this year and I really don’t rate him that highly but I 100% agree his defensive work isn’t good and to be honest never really has been. He gets heaps of kicks and gives us good run but he needs to defend a lot better. He gets away with it against sides like Essendon but good sides like Collingwood expose it.

The worst thing I saw on Saturday night is on numerous occasions is he deliberately goes to ground when tackling and tucks his head in a way not to get hurt but he is basically out of the next contest if the guy he tackled gets a handball or the ball knocks free. It stands out like dis balls if you watch for it.

I know a bash Bellis but he does it too.
You watch a guy like Sydney Stack who is a baby in terms of AFL footy but as a natural tackler and defender he knows when he tackles, regardless of if he goes to ground, he needs to be in the best position to get to the next contest before the guy he tackled.

You watch guys like Vlastuin, Grimes and of course Rance and they all do what Stack does.
Title: Re: Changes for the Norf game?
Post by: georgies31 on May 27, 2019, 05:58:19 PM
You guys getting into Houli no idea we all know his defence work is not great.Short memory of Jayden Short efforts when in defence or a few others even some of our seniors early on in the season weren't great.Without Bachar we would struggle with run out of defence.
Title: Re: Changes for the Norf game?
Post by: georgies31 on May 27, 2019, 06:02:28 PM
I think Houli has been pretty good this year and I really don’t rate him that highly but I 100% agree his defensive work isn’t good and to be honest never really has been. He gets heaps of kicks and gives us good run but he needs to defend a lot better. He gets away with it against sides like Essendon but good sides like Collingwood expose it.

The worst thing I saw on Saturday night is on numerous occasions is he deliberately goes to ground when tackling and tucks his head in a way not to get hurt but he is basically out of the next contest if the guy he tackled gets a handball or the ball knocks free. It stands out like dis balls if you watch for it.

I know a bash Bellis but he does it too.
You watch a guy like Sydney Stack who is a baby in terms of AFL footy but as a natural tackler and defender he knows when he tackles, regardless of if he goes to ground, he needs to be in the best position to get to the next contest before the guy he tackled.

You watch guys like Vlastuin, Grimes and of course Rance and they all do what Stack does.

Teams expose it. Was BOG in the biggest game of the year GF in 2017 and was fantastic in the finals.
Title: Re: Changes for the Norf game?
Post by: Diocletian on May 27, 2019, 06:03:58 PM
Some of us where indeed getting stuck into Short.... :shh
Title: Re: Changes for the Norf game?
Post by: Assange Tiger 😎 on May 27, 2019, 06:18:26 PM
Some of us where indeed getting stuck into Short.... :shh
Only the truly courageous... :shh :shh
Title: Re: Changes for the Norf game?
Post by: YellowandBlackBlood on May 27, 2019, 07:53:06 PM
Stack has been an upgrade on Short.... :shh
Title: Re: Changes for the Norf game?
Post by: big tone on May 27, 2019, 08:56:23 PM
I think Houli has been pretty good this year and I really don’t rate him that highly but I 100% agree his defensive work isn’t good and to be honest never really has been. He gets heaps of kicks and gives us good run but he needs to defend a lot better. He gets away with it against sides like Essendon but good sides like Collingwood expose it.

The worst thing I saw on Saturday night is on numerous occasions is he deliberately goes to ground when tackling and tucks his head in a way not to get hurt but he is basically out of the next contest if the guy he tackled gets a handball or the ball knocks free. It stands out like dis balls if you watch for it.

I know a bash Bellis but he does it too.
You watch a guy like Sydney Stack who is a baby in terms of AFL footy but as a natural tackler and defender he knows when he tackles, regardless of if he goes to ground, he needs to be in the best position to get to the next contest before the guy he tackled.

You watch guys like Vlastuin, Grimes and of course Rance and they all do what Stack does.

Teams expose it. Was BOG in the biggest game of the year GF in 2017 and was fantastic in the finals.
Hang on a minute- Bellis was also a HBF in that GF side. It just shows you how dominant Rance, Grimes, Vlastuin and even Broad were for covering for both of them defensively.
Make no mistake Houli is a weak defender. You even said that yourself a post ago so try not to confuse what I am saying.

Houli should be moved to a wing and Bells should head to Norf.
Title: Re: Changes for the Norf game?
Post by: Tigeritis™©® on May 27, 2019, 11:07:46 PM
Outs: Broad (terrible again). Menadue (unlucky). Coleman-Jones (too young)

Ins: Naish. Cotchin. Soldo

Naish deserves a call up.
Title: Re: Changes for the Norf game?
Post by: one-eyed on May 28, 2019, 10:53:23 PM
In the Mix: Round 11

Sarah Black
afl.com.au
28 May 2019


RICHMOND

Get them in: Ruckman Ivan Soldo has now served his one-match suspension for striking. Big man Mabior Chol (23 disposals, 22 hitouts, one goal) was named best afield in the VFL, playing up forward and in the ruck. Jack Graham returned from a hamstring in the VFL and had 18 touches and two goals.

Under the pump:
Expect Callum Coleman-Jones to make way for Soldo after the 19-year-old made his AFL debut ahead of schedule. Connor Menadue (nine disposals) was more subdued up forward after an impressive few weeks

Medical room: Hard-running midfielder Kane Lambert is set for another week on the sidelines with Achilles soreness. Meanwhile, skipper Trent Cotchin is on track to return from the hamstring he first injured in round three. Tom Lynch missed the last quarter with a corked calf but is expected to be fine.

Verdict:
May just be the two changes for the Tigers, with Coleman-Jones making way for the returning Soldo, while Menadue is one who could be omitted for Cotchin. The versatile Graham is waiting in the wings for any sore players who fail to recover after the six-day break from a game played in wet conditions.

https://www.afl.com.au/news/2019-05-27/in-the-mix-whos-pushing-for-selection-for-round-11
Title: Re: Changes for the Norf game?
Post by: Assange Tiger 😎 on May 28, 2019, 11:43:57 PM
Wouldn't that be funny. Menadue getting dropped again and The Machine proclaiming he played a great game.

Title: Re: Changes for the Norf game?
Post by: Jackstar is back!!! on May 29, 2019, 01:11:39 PM
Lambert didn’t train today
Lynch and Cotchin trained
So ins will be Cotchin and Soldo
For Menadue and CCJ
Title: Re: Changes for the Norf game?
Post by: Diocletian on May 29, 2019, 04:26:05 PM
A few players will be auditioning their prospective new clubs - from both sides.... :shh
Title: Re: Changes for the Norf game?
Post by: 1965 on May 29, 2019, 05:08:31 PM
A few players will be auditioning their prospective new clubs - from both sides.... :shh


Sorry but this sentence doesn't make sense.


Have you been on the cooking sherry again?


 :cheers
Title: Re: Changes for the Norf game?
Post by: Rampsation on May 29, 2019, 05:31:42 PM
Id be interested in mason wood if he was up for trade. They dont have much else.
Title: Re: Changes for the Norf game?
Post by: Tigeritis™©® on May 29, 2019, 05:36:41 PM
Id be interested in mason wood if he was up for trade. They dont have much else.
Is that tagger still playing for them? He goes alright, kept Cotchin quiet in the final.
Title: Re: Changes for the Norf game?
Post by: Diocletian on May 29, 2019, 05:59:51 PM
Id be interested in mason wood if he was up for trade. They dont have much else.


Mason Wood is  the one I'd be all over....hoping his poor form of the last 18 months could see him be had for unders....Goldstein for a year wouldn't be the worst idea in the world...........Cunnington if he was a couple years younger and a yard quicker...and could kick....Atley maybe for minimum chips.... :shh

Id be interested in mason wood if he was up for trade. They dont have much else.
Is that tagger still playing for them? He goes alright, kept Cotchin quiet in the final.

Jacob. Can't see us recruiting a specialist tagger considering we rarely ever employ the tactic... :shh :shh
Title: Re: Changes for the Norf game?
Post by: big tone on May 29, 2019, 07:00:47 PM
Macintosh to play on Higgins?
Title: Re: Changes for the Norf game?
Post by: The Machine on May 29, 2019, 08:50:49 PM
Wouldn't that be funny. Menadue getting dropped again and The Machine proclaiming he played a great game.


Played his role as asked. Don't think he did AT?
Title: Re: Changes for the Norf game?
Post by: Tiger Khosh on May 29, 2019, 09:08:02 PM
Wouldn't that be funny. Menadue getting dropped again and The Machine proclaiming he played a great game.


Played his role as asked. Don't think he did AT?

Did his job last week and was impressive the couple of weeks before that. But........like I said in an earlier post unless they wanna get rid of 1 of the tall defenders or 1 of the small forwards (which they’re gonna have to do once lambert comes back anyway), Menadue looks like the only option to come out for cotch.
Title: Re: Changes for the Norf game?
Post by: The Machine on May 29, 2019, 09:12:19 PM
Wouldn't that be funny. Menadue getting dropped again and The Machine proclaiming he played a great game.


Played his role as asked. Don't think he did AT?

Did his job last week and was impressive the couple of weeks before that. But........like I said in an earlier post unless they wanna get rid of 1 of the tall defenders or 1 of the small forwards (which they’re gonna have to do once lambert comes back anyway), Menadue looks like the only option to come out for cotch.


Should Menadue make way it's not due to lack of form. Others are simply ahead of him at this stage. Not sure why AT was having an unecessery dig in the first instance... :wallywink
Title: Re: Changes for the Norf game?
Post by: one-eyed on May 30, 2019, 11:24:04 AM
Cotch and Soldo are in according to Dimma.

https://www.sbs.com.au/news/cotchin-s-return-to-boost-tigers-in-afl