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Football => Richmond Rant => Topic started by: one-eyed on August 25, 2019, 06:21:07 PM
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A rematch of today's game.
No date and time details as yet.
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Wikipedia saying we're playing Saturday night, September 7 at 7.25pm.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2019_AFL_finals_series
Nothing official yet on the AFL website.
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Yep. Tim Watson on Ch 7 just now confirmed our Qualifying Final at the 'Gabba will be on Saturday night, Sept. 7 at 7.25pm.
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Week 1 Toyota AFL Finals Series
(https://s.afl.com.au/staticfile/AFL%20Tenant/FInalsweekonedefcon.jpg)
First elimination final
Thursday, September 5
West Coast v Essendon at Optus Stadium, 6.10pm AWST
First qualifying final
Friday, September 6
Geelong v Collingwood at the MCG, 7.50pm AEST
Second elimination final
Saturday, September 7
Greater Western Sydney v Western Bulldogs at Giants Stadium, 3.20pm AEST
Second qualifying final
Saturday, September 7
Brisbane v Richmond at the Gabba, 7.25pm AEST
https://www.afl.com.au/news/2019-08-25/who-plays-who-in-week-one-of-the-finals
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Massive game lads. Can they make up 5 goals on us at home?
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We need to improve on our performance today. At the moment I see it as a 50/50 game
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Yeah we're a 2 goal better side at the g and they are better at the gabba. It's gonna be close.
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Expect plenty of home town frees.
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Expect plenty of home town frees.
Couldn’t be worse than the umpiring in that first half.... :banghead
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Yeah the Lynch fend off when Rioli was kicking it in to the 50. Wow how bad was that. The defender was facing the goals and not even remotely playing the ball and somehow Lynch gave away a free.
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Actually prefer playing Brisbane at gabba than Cats at G
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We are gonna have to improve a lot. Many players not pulling their weight.
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We are gonna have to improve a lot. Many players not pulling their weight.
Which ones?
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(https://s.afl.com.au/staticfile/AFL%20Tenant/FinalsPathway1280730.jpg)
Win and we play either Geelong, Collingwood, Eagles or Essendon in a Prelim.
Lose and we play the winner of GWS vs Dogs in a Semi Final. If we win that then we play either Geel or Coll in a Prelim.
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plenty of them.
they are inconsistent and not good enough at this time of the year.
graham, rioli, george, short, bolton, bellis to name 6. At times this year they look like vfl standard players.
In 2017 everyone bought in and i dont think its the case this year, especially with their pressure.
need a big lift.
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We are gonna have to improve a lot. Many players not pulling their weight.
Which ones?
Rioli - is the opposite of x-factor at the minute as he has been really terrible for a number of weeks, gone backwards this year. When he gets the footy he’s not taking it on nor is he getting it in quickly instead he is killing momentum. He’s also not at the fall of the ball in F50 nor is he tackling like he used to. How he got back in after being sent back into the reserves is still a mystery as he wasn’t doing anything that warranted a recall during that period and since he’s been back he really hasn’t found his mojo.
Our entire forward pressure was pretty non existent yesterday and all can take responsibility for not laying one tackle there allowing the bears to just waltz out without any heat.
Id also have to agree that Castagna, Bolton, Ellis, Caddy and Short have to lift form their current output.
How we let Neale get the ball whenever he wanted was an absolute joke. Need to look to how we can curb his influence around the ground as well as mitigating Zorko influence too.
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No doubt we need to raise the bar 5 to 10 %,but finals different ball game pressure on lions now at home.Let's not forget lions were in red hot form and how many teams have kept them to 55 points.Bit of perspective.Not going to happen again our forward line lacking pressure and Lynch kept goalless.
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Neale and Mitchell are similar players, lots of meaningless possessions
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No doubt we need to raise the bar 5 to 10 %,but finals different ball game pressure on lions now at home.Let's not forget lions were in red hot form and how many teams have kept them to 55 points.Bit of perspective.Not going to happen again our forward line lacking pressure and Lynch kept goalless.
Lynch kicked one from 50 and hit the post with another.
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We are gonna have to improve a lot. Many players not pulling their weight.
Which ones?
Rioli - is the opposite of x-factor at the minute as he has been really terrible for a number of weeks, gone backwards this year. When he gets the footy he’s not taking it on nor is he getting it in quickly instead he is killing momentum. He’s also not at the fall of the ball in F50 nor is he tackling like he used to. How he got back in after being sent back into the reserves is still a mystery as he wasn’t doing anything that warranted a recall during that period and since he’s been back he really hasn’t found his mojo.
Our entire forward pressure was pretty non existent yesterday and all can take responsibility for not laying one tackle there allowing the bears to just waltz out without any heat.
Id also have to agree that Castagna, Bolton, Ellis, Caddy and Short have to lift form their current output.
How we let Neale get the ball whenever he wanted was an absolute joke. Need to look to how we can curb his influence around the ground as well as mitigating Zorko influence too.
I don't disagree about Rioli, in fact I believe he has been down on his best for most of the year.
Forward pressure this year has not been anywhere near it needs to be, the smalls are not delivering what they once were and Townsend, Caddy have been removed and replaced with Lynch which is a different dynamic though you would think the smalls would be at the feet of lynch when he crashes packs and brings ball to ground.
Castagna frustrates me at times but I see why he is in the team, Bolton is still young so, when he learns to control his temper but stay on the edge with his game he will improve significantly. Ellis we know what he will give, Caddy is in a new role so ill cut him slack because it was either this or the 2nds and Short im not so sure he is in best 22. But happy for people to debate. The other one I had a question mark over was Houli however after a poor 1st quarter against Eagles he lifted and this week I thought he was better also.
I think the problem we have this year is that there is no continuity in personal and that wasn't an issue for us last year, we just peaked too early that's it.
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Richmond aren’t just facing this year’s Brisbane team when they head to the Gabba for an AFL qualifying final on September 7 – they’re facing history.
The Lions head into their first finals campaign since 2009 knowing they hold a perfect 10-0 record in finals matches at their home ground.
The Tigers are one of those teams to fall victim to the Lions at the Gabba in September – beaten by 68 points in a 2001 preliminary final as Brisbane charged to the first premiership of their historic three-peat.
While that finals record was built largely on the back of that great team as well as a victory over Carlton in their last finals series in 2009, the Lions have made their home ground a fortress in 2019.
This year the Lions have won 10 at the Gabba with an Easter Thursday blip against Collingwood their only defeat in Brisbane.
Richmond will also be making their first trip away from their home ground since round 16 although they own three from five on the road in 2019.
Key defender Harris Andrews says while home advantage is a boost for the Lions, it won’t be the only thing for the team to end a 13-game losing run against the Tigers.
“I don’t think it changes anything at all to be honest with you,” Andrews said. “We’re going to have to get our process right.
“They did a really good job on the weekend to beat us and there’s some key learnings we’ll take away from that game.”
https://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl-daily-rolling-footy-news-from-across-australia-for-wednesday-august-28/live-coverage/267248fd4df505f60a9f82c0f11563e7
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Oh please. Tigers don't care playing at the Gabba. We beat them there all the time too.
Just depends who is firing on the day.
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Any OERites heading to the GABBA keen for a pre game froffy ?
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Any OERites heading to the GABBA keen for a pre game froffy ?
I’ll be getting there around 7
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yeah id like to at a pub close to the ground.
anyone know of a descent tame one to have a few prior?
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yeah id like to at a pub close to the ground.
anyone know of a descent tame one to have a few prior?
The football club have nominated a pub nearby
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Richmond relishing back-to-back Brisbane encounters after MCG fixture quirk
September 1, 2019 12:00pm
AAP
Richmond defender Nick Vlastuin says the Tigers are primed for their qualifying final clash with Brisbane at the Gabba.
The Tigers haven’t played at the Gabba since round four, 2017, but Vlastuin said he and his teammates were relishing the prospect of an away trip after seven consecutive games at the MCG.
“We haven’t played there for two or three years I think, so it’s going to be interesting,” Vlastuin told AAP.
“But it’s always good fun getting away with the boys and then we kind of had just locked away the ‘G for (seven) weeks.
“So it’s probably good to just get out of Melbourne and it’s always fun travelling with the boys. You’re forced to spend more time together, which is always fun.
“So yeah, we’re really looking forward to it.” Before their round 23 clash, which Richmond won by 27 points, the Tigers hadn’t faced Brisbane since round 4, 2018.
“We both got our first look at each other first hand to see how it stacks up against our system,” Vlastuin said.
“So we looked at some of the things they did really well and we’ll try and combat that. And they’ll look at what we did really well and they’ll try and combat that.
“So it’s going to be pretty interesting how different they play and what the coaches come up for us — how we want to change our ball movement and stuff like that a little bit as well.”
Vlastuin said Richmond would be focusing heavily on their contested ball after being “touched up” in that area in round 23, with Brisbane winning contested possessions 145-131, clearances 48-32 and tackles 72-47.
“We’re never going to know until we run out but they kind of touched us up in contested possessions,” he said.
“That goes a long way to winning most games, so we’re going to have a big focus on that over the next week or two at training.”
Vlastuin has enjoyed a fine season and was arguably unlucky to miss out on All- Australian selection in a year where the Tigers had to re-adjust after Alex Rance suffered a season-ending knee injury in round one.
He said in Rance’s absence, every Tigers defender had “stepped up that little bit” but All-Australians Bachar Houli and Dylan Grimes had been particularly impressive.
“Bachar and Grimesy have been super all year so I’m just saying it’s too hard to fit three defenders from the same team in the All-Australian team,” Vlastuin said.
“Yeah, Bachar and Grimesy have been super all year and (I’m) stoked for them.
“It’s been a good year — (I) started off a bit down just because of Rancey, we all had to change our roles and just work out how we’re going to work without such a good player.
“So it’s been a good year. I think we’ve all grown because of that — we’ve been forced to do other things as well.
“And yeah, it’d be good next year to have Rancey back but we’ve been playing (22) weeks now without him. So we’re pretty set in what we’re doing and it’s exciting.”
https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/afl-finals-2019-richmond-relishing-backtoback-brisbane-encounters/news-story/9f616a1acad6c4b9577306cb8cb38180
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Who can stand finals heat in Brisbane?
Lauren Wood,
Herald Sun
1 September 2019
They met just a week ago at a near-full MCG but this time, things will be very different.
The Brisbane Lions return to their home fortress to host premiership favourite Richmond, with the winner earning passage to a preliminary final and another week off.
Herald Sun expert Lauren Wood takes a look at the qualifying final, and three of the big questions facing each club ahead of Saturday night’s showdown.
BRISBANE LIONS
1 LACK OF FINALS EXPERIENCE
Only a handful of Brisbane’s players have seen September action and we know finals are an entirely different proposition. But these Lions? They’re a different beast, too. Pressure? Check. Grit? Check. Preparation against the best? Check and check after playing against the Cats and Tigers in the last two rounds, albeit for a win and a loss. Can they go all the way? You bet. They’re not using September inexperience as any excuse.
2 LACH-DOWN ON NEALE?
Richmond coach Damien Hardwick has already flagged that his men could engage a different approach on star ballwinner Lachie Neale after he racked up 51 touches last weekend. He demolished the Tigers at clearances and will need to be closely checked, but is the All-Australian rover the only one? Dayne Zorko was in blistering form in Round 23 and often drawn attention. He needs to lift after the Lions scored 8.7 (55) against the Tigers, their lowest score for the season.
3 CHARLIE v GRIMES: THE RE-MATCH
Brisbane star Charlie Cameron hasn’t hidden his frustration this week. After expressing his distaste for fellow All-Australian Dylan Grimes’ physical approach on him in their Round 23 meeting, he followed up by describing the tactics as “frustrating” when asked about them midweek. Grimes maintains he had no such sense during the game that Cameron was so aggrieved. Cameron’s stats last week — seven disposals, two goals — were among his worst in a stellar season. All eyes will be on the pair’s rematch. Ding ding.
RICHMOND
1 TRAVEL FACTOR
The Tigers haven’t hit the road for a final since 2014 — and that didn’t end well (57-point loss to Port Adelaide). They’re bullish about their chances up north after disposing of the Lions just a week ago, with Hardwick reminding his players of the similarities in dimension between the Gabba and the MCG several times. They’ve won each of their past eight trips to the ground — albeit against a very different Lions outfit — and love to travel together, according to All-Australian defender Bachar Houli. But these Lions have only lost one game there this year. Richmond will need to get cracking early.
2 RUCK OFF
The heat is on for the highly-prized ruck spot with Toby Nankervis, who will battle Ivan Soldo and Mabior Chol for the ticket to Brisbane. Nankervis has played just one game since Round 8 because of an adductor issue, and on Saturday starred in his club’s VFL win — earning rich praise from footy boss Neil Balme. Surely Hardwick can’t overlook Soldo after his performance last week? That would mean Noah Balta would have to make way for Nankervis. Would you risk the more experienced big man? It is finals. Watch this space.
3 THE HEAT
Conditions at the Gabba will be vastly different to Round 23 at the MCG clash, with early indications being that daytime temperatures in “BrisVegas” could nudge 30C. Yes, it’ll drop by the time the game starts, but key defender Grimes knows the match could play out very differently in the sunshine state. “It’s going to be really high pressure and in terms of ball movement it’s quick out there as well — it’s likely to be a bit warmer … a bit drier,” he said. “I think it can be a completely different game.” The Tigers’ famed pressure will be their own brand of heat that will need to be turned up to the max.
SECOND QUALIFYING FINAL: LIONS V TIGERS
GABBA, SATURDAY, 7.25PM
LAST TIME
ROUND 23: TIGERS 12.10 (82) d LIONS 8.7 (55), MCG
CASUALTY LIST
Brisbane
Allen Christensen (hamstring) test
Richmond
Toby Nankervis (adductor) available
Dion Prestia (achilles soreness) test
Sydney Stack (ankle) indefinite
Jack Higgins (brain bleed) season
Alex Rance (knee) season
TAB ODDS
MATCH
Tigers $1.65
Lions $2.25
FLAG
Tigers $3
Lions $7
LAUREN WOOD SAYS
Richmond’s pressure a week ago had shades of 2017 and it could be the Lions’ undoing, but expecting a thriller on a prime Queensland night for finals football.
EARLY CALL: Richmond by 4 points.
https://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/more-news/tigers-must-withstand-the-heat-in-brisbane-as-young-lions-chase-finals-glory/news-story/a5e3924c13ff74931f1cc27c4e0528dd
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Chol grew up in Brisbane - heat won't bother him... :shh
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Does Brisbane have dedicated tagger?
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Mitch Robinson has spent a large part of his career tagging so it wouldn’t surprise me if Fagan pulls this one out
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Chol grew up in Brisbane - heat won't bother him... :shh
He also grew up in South Sudan but I’m sure that that will matter as the game will be played in the evening and the temperature will have cooled considerably by the time the game starts.
Bloody lucky we didn’t get the mid afternoon game as I reckon that’s what cooled the cats a few weeks ago
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The two players on each side that matter most: Lions vs Tigers
By SEN
2 September 2019
Nick Riewoldt has named the two players for each top eight team that are most important heading into finals.
After a week off, the four finals get underway this weekend and these are the players that the former St Kilda captain believes will need to have a really big impact and will be crucial to the way these teams want to play.
Brisbane
Charlie Cameron
“In their six losses, he’s kicked six goals. He’s been goalless three times. In their 16 wins, he’s kicked 48 goals at three per game. I just think if you can stamp him, you take a bit of the crowd out of it, you take a bit of the enthusiasm,” Riewoldt told SEN Breakfast.
“It’s been a little Cameron or bust at times, Eric Hipwood and Dan McStay haven’t been consistent contributors.”
Harris Andrews
“The confidence that their team gets out of seeing the big, strong presence marking and intercepting the ball across half back. He only took one mark against the Tigers in Round 23 and they just looked a little bit vulnerable.”
Richmond
Dylan Grimes and Nick Vlastuin
“I couldn’t really separate Grimes and Vlastuin. They are the centrepiece and I’m talking about a position more than a player. It’s that deep sweeper for Richmond and it’s been mostly Dylan Grimes since Alex Rance went down, he had the job on Charlie Cameron in Round 23 and Vlastuin became the interceptor."
“Those two players, they are absolute rocks. If they’re intercepting the footy, that is who they are, Richmond.”
Dustin Martin
“The game just changes when he gets the footy, particularly in finals when it’s contested and tight. He gets it, the opposition panics and the game evolves and changes.”
https://www.sen.com.au/news/2019/09/02/the-two-players-on-each-side-that-matter-most-lions-vs-tigers/
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The "radical" move Brisbane should make to quell Dusty
By SEN
2 September 2019
David King has urged Brisbane to try something unexpected to stop Dustin Martin ahead of their Qualifying Final clash with Richmond.
Martin has made a habit of dominating against the Lions, with the midfielder polling more Brownlow votes against them than any other team.
He starred in their recent Round 23 encounter and King believes assigning a defender like Darcy Gardiner or Luke Hodge to him could be worth a try.
“We talk a lot about not getting beaten by what you know. When you look at what Dustin Martin has been able to do … do you know who the number one team his Brownlow votes have come against?” he told SEN’s Whateley.
“He’s got 18 votes in his 13-game career against the Lions. Two weeks ago he had 21 disposals, two goals and many said best on ground.
“Round 4, 2018. He kicked six goals, three votes. Round 17, 2017 he had 40 disposals and two goals.
“We don’t know what the Round 23 votes were, but I’d guess he’s got nine votes in his last three games (against Brisbane).
“At some stage, the coach has to say, you know what, I don’t care what happens today, this guy is not beating us.
“It might require something different. We saw Patrick Ambrose go to Nathan Fyfe a few weeks ago with outstanding success.
“It might take something out of the ordinary. Can a Darcy Gardiner go everywhere with him? Can he start in at centre bounces and play him like a half back flanker in behind.
“He’s not a stoppage player, but we’re not asking him to win stoppages. He’s going in there with both eyeballs on number four for the Tigers.
“Can you do something like that? Can Gardner then go forward with him and just remain in constant contact with the one man who has destroyed your football club?
“He’s not a huge runner Dusty. It’s more about his brute force power at clearance and then he just roams around the ground. He doesn’t put you to the sword like an overlap runner. He’s not a Brad Hill type runner.
“It’s worth looking at and it’s a discussion they’ll have to have. Can you do something radical like that in a final? It’s a big gamble.
“Can Luke Hodge do it? Can we wind the clock back and I know it’s a wildcard, but you can’t allow this bloke to be best on ground again without trying something you haven’t tried before.”
https://www.sen.com.au/news/2019/09/02/the-radical-move-brisbane-should-make-to-quell-dusty/
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The AFL website is tipping Brisbane by 8 points.
Qualifying final preview: Brisbane v Richmond
AFL.com.au
Michael Whiting
Sep 2, 2019
Where and when: The Gabba, Saturday September 7, 7.25pm AEST
What it means for Brisbane: It's been 10 years since the Lions played finals and the city has jumped right behind Chris Fagan's feel-good team. A win would ensure another sellout at the Gabba two weeks later for a preliminary final.
What it means for Richmond: If the Tigers aren't already the premiership favourites, winning on the road – their first match away from the MCG in two months – would silence any final queries.
The stat: Daniel Rich is the only player to defeat Richmond wearing a Brisbane jumper. The Tigers have won a remarkable 13 straight matches between the clubs, with the Lions' last win coming in round seven, 2009, on the back of four goals from Jonathan Brown.
The match-up: Chris Fagan has plenty of faith in Marcus Adams, but after Jack Riewoldt kicked four early goals on him in their round 23 match-up, Darcy Gardiner was moved to the three-time Coleman medallist in the second half and kept him goalless. It wouldn't shock if Fagan gave Adams a chance to square the ledger, but the more likely move is starting Gardiner on Riewoldt.
It's a big week for: Fourteen Lions players (15 if Cedric Cox plays as he did in round 23) are yet to play finals, but the man with the longest wait has been ruckman Stefan Martin. Now 32, Martin has played 12 years and chalked up 180 games for Melbourne and Brisbane before getting his first taste of September action.
Big call: Tom Lynch – also playing his first final – will rise to finals footy and kick four goals on All Australian Harris Andrews.
Prediction: Brisbane by eight points
https://www.afl.com.au/news/2019-09-02/qualifying-final-preview-brisbane-v-richmond
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yeah id like to at a pub close to the ground.
anyone know of a descent tame one to have a few prior?
The football club have nominated a pub nearby
Keen as boys , do we know which pub they nominated ?
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Nearly split my coffee over the keyboard reading King suggesting Hodge run with Martin
As great a player as Hodge has been I am thinking that would play right into our hands. Not only would Martin be too strong for him it would take Hodge away from that "general" role he plays in their backline
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Nearly split my coffee over the keyboard reading King suggesting Hodge run with Martin
As great a player as Hodge has been I am thinking that would play right into our hands. Not only would Martin be too strong for him it would take Hodge away from that "general" role he plays in their backline
And not only that, but Hodge is far too slow and doesn't have the legs in him to run with Martin. Would be laughable to be honest!
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yeah id like to at a pub close to the ground.
anyone know of a descent tame one to have a few prior?
The football club have nominated a pub nearby
Keen as boys , do we know which pub they nominated ?
The Qld supporters group are at the Shafston from 1-5.30, then marching / walking to the Gabba en masse
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Stats of note
The Lions will be equally keen to quell gun Tigers forward Jack Riewoldt, who's booted 42 goals in just 15 games (14 wins) against them – his fourth-best record against any club. It's that much harder to do so now that Tom Lynch has joined him.
Brisbane: No.1 for points scored from forward half (51.1) and No.2 for time in forward half differential (+4:56)
Richmond: No.1 for points from turnover this season (57.1) also No.2 for intercept possessions won (75.3)
https://www.afl.com.au/news/2019-09-03/stats-files-the-matchups-that-are-key-to-winning-each-final
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Every finalist’s September kryptonite
Herald Sun
3 September 2019
It looms as one of the most open races for an AFL premiership in years.
But what will be the keys to determining whether a club succeeds — or falters.
Our team of Herald Sun experts takes a look at each of the finalists to see where they’re vulnerable.
RICHMOND
At least Richmond can breathe a sigh of relief that Mason Cox is out of the finals series after last year’s stunning preliminary final performance.
But with no Alex Rance the Tigers won’t forget Aaron Naughton’s five-goal, nine-contested mark performance in Round 7 this year.
So they will be sure to put plenty of time into a beanpole such as Lion Oscar McInerney on Saturday, aware he can catch fire and change the course of a game in minutes.
For all its defensive brilliance Richmond is not miserly against key forwards — 10 sides have better records than the Tigers at restricting goals from the opposition’s offensive guns this year. So with Dylan Grimes sure to have his hands full with Charlie Cameron, Nathan Broad and Nick Vlastuin will have to ensure they come over the top of David Astbury’s man to help stop the high-leaping Lions.
— Jon Ralph
BRISBANE
We have fallen in love with the Brisbane Lions’ sudden surge up the ladder this season, exploding from only five wins last year to second spot in 2019.
But making finals is one thing, winning them is another. A lack of experience is their kryptonite.
So, at the moment, there are more questions than answers.
Can they do it on the big stage?
Can this talented young group handle the September heat?
At least they had a pre-finals hitout against Richmond to prepare for what is to come this weekend.
Although, the Tigers belted them up in the first quarter — outscoring the Lions six goals to two.
Learning from that experience will help. And it’s a good thing they have got one of the greatest grand final performers we’ve ever seen, Luke Hodge, ready to lead them into battle for one last campaign.
— Jay Clark
https://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/more-news/the-herald-sun-football-team-look-at-each-afl-finalists-main-concern-heading-into-september/news-story/47e4ac6be1c0716e11fa169483a1da55
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Hodge is a real threat. Yeah if we’re not clinical with our forward 50 entries hodge and Harris will lead the back 6 to slingshot it out. If we can punish them on the scoreboard quick it should psychologically crush them
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Thankfully we're playing Saturday night in Brisbane and not Thursday nor Friday.
Thursday 31 degrees
Friday 34 degrees
Saturday 26 degrees
Saturday night ~18-20 degrees at the start of the match.
http://www.bom.gov.au/qld/forecasts/brisbane.shtml
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Tigers won't tag ball magnet Neale
Tim Michell & Sam Landsberger
Herald-Sun
4 September 2019
Richmond will not put a leash on Brownlow Medal fancy Lachie Neale.
Instead the Tigers will back their brilliant midfield to overpower Brisbane’s at the Gabba fortress where the Lions have lost just once this season.
Neale amassed a career-best 51 disposals against the Tigers in Round 23, but Richmond spent yesterday’s training session tweaking its stoppage structures rather than searching for a tagger.
The former Fremantle onballer has long tormented the Tigers, gathering 35 disposals against them last year and 37 in 2016.
Tiger terrier Dion Prestia, who was asked to mind Neale in the second half of Round 23, said midfield clamps were not in premiership coach Damien Hardwick’s playbook.
“I don’t think we’ll go a full tag. We haven’t done it all year. It’s more giving him more attention at stoppages and not letting him do what he did last Sunday (week),” Prestia told the Herald Sun at yesterday’s Kayo AFL Finals launch.
“He’s amazing the way he moves around stoppages and the things he does are the things we can bring into our stoppage game as well.”
https://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/more-news/afl-daily-live-rolling-footy-news-from-around-australia-for-wednesday-september-4-2019/live-coverage/5cc50af6dbc7189f0c9c9715b97dd31c
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For all I care he can have another 50 disposals at 7m gained each lol
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Finals are a more contested pressure type of footy. There was a fair bit of bruise free footy at times in round 23. That won't happen on Saturday night with the higher stakes. We can't afford to give them or any other top 4 side that sort of dominance in the midfield clearances and expect to win by relying on turnovers and attacks starting from defence. Our ruck and midfield set-ups need to be better this week both offensively and defensively.
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I hope we apply the high intensity pressure in the middle and forward 50 that we are actually known by.
I really haven’t seen it all year. :banghead
I can’t see us progressing very far without it to be honest.
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The crazy stats that make Brisbane vs Richmond impossible to split
The Roar
6 Sep 2019
The final game of the AFL’s first week of finals in 2019 is Saturday night’s clash at The Gabba between Brisbane and Richmond – and it looks to be the hardest to pick of all four.
The Tigers scored a 27-point win over the high-flying Lions in Round 23 to deny them the minor premiership, but now need to do it again away from home after a seven-week residency at the MCG.
Do Richmond have what it takes to knock the Lions off twice in a row? Or can Brisbane learn and rebound from that performance and win their first final since 2009?
There are a handful of incredible statistics floating around ahead of this game, the most obvious being Richmond’s incredible 13-game winning run over the Lions.
Not only that, they’ve got four wins and a draw from the six games before that, giving them 17 wins from their last 19 encounters.
On the other hand, the Brisbane Lions (and Bears, for that matter) have never lost a home final. Ever.
Which record will remain intact?
https://www.theroar.com.au/2019/09/06/the-crazy-stats-that-make-brisbane-vs-richmond-impossible-to-split/
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Both of the,above make great points have to win our fair share of the midfield battle cannot let lions dominate like that. Pressure and tacking needs to raised especially forward and midfield the trait were known for.
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It’s a weird one. History suggests we’re due for a loss and a loss can be beneficial as it allows you to sharpen up. But at the same time playing the bulldogs (most likely) then backing it up to play the winner of Collingwood Geelong is not a path I want the club to take. I know there was a lot of commentary about our club having too much of a break between the end of season bye and the Collingwood prelim but I think going all guns blazing and smashing the lions and taking a break is probably the better path
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Brisbane versus Richmond key match-ups
Steve Larkin
7 News
6 Sept 2019
* Mitch Robinson (BL) v Dustin Martin (Rich).
Just which Lion is given the unenviable task of containing Tiger megastar Martin is a fascinating subplot. Perhaps the ever-green Robinson, with his aggression and footy smarts, is best-placed for the job. If so, expect fireworks between two proud players who thrive when the going gets tough. Martin's midfield class is complemented by his scoring threat when stationed forward, but Robinson's similar physique and tenacity could offer a stern test.
* Charlie Cameron (BL) v Dylan Grimes (Rich).
Cameron's stunning form - 54 goals for the season - offers a rare spark that can turn a match in minutes. But Grimes held the Lion attacker to just seven touches in the last round before finals by using overtly physical tactics. Cameron did kick two goals but had limited impact, and he can expect similar rough treatment again - just how he copes could determine the result.
* Lachie Neale (BL) v Jack Graham (Rich).
Star Lion Neale gathered a remarkable 51 touches in the recent loss to the Tigers, prompting Richmond coach Damien Hardwick to forecast a tight tag in the final, though he's traditionally reluctant to put an out-and-out stopper on an opposition player, no matter their ability. But Graham was tasked with a tagging role in the 2017 grand final and cut out Adelaide's Rory Sloane to be a key player in the Tigers' premiership triumph and he appears the best option to try and curtail Neale's influence around the packs.
https://7news.com.au/sport/afl/brisbane-versus-richmond-key-match-ups-c-438994
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Pretty sure he forecast that there wouldn’t be a tag at all
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I’m heading up in the morning and I have a good feeling about this one.
I just feel we might be harder at it for longer...
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The umps for tonight's game (thankfully not Razor)
1. Chris Donlon
15. Mathew Nicholls
26. Craig Fleer
EM 32. Jacob Mollison.
https://aflua.com.au/wp-content/uploads/WEEK-1-FINALS.pdf
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Time to head to the airport
For another interstate trip
This will be my 4th and the club's 6th but we never travel right?
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Yep up here too. Heading to the pineapple to watch the doggies giants this arvo
Was windy last night so we could expect the same tonight
At least it's not that hot today.
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Time to head to the airport
For another interstate trip
This will be my 4th and the club's 6th but we never travel right?
I’ve got an important date first (son’s B&F) before flying up but look forward to the game.
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Final questions: Richmond v Brisbane qualifying final at the Gabba
Jon Pierik
The Age
7 Sep 2019
Few thought the Brisbane Lions would have made the finals, let alone finish in the top four. But they have and, with a home final, against Richmond, their rise could be rapid. Jon Pierik assesses the burning questions heading into Saturday night's qualifying final.
Any danger the Lions won't be able to handle the finals heat?
Yes. This is the biggest game so far for many of their players, for the Lions have not played in a final since 2009. They can talk as much as they like about handling the pressure but actions and words are different things. Luke Hodge will provide a calm hand in defence, and may look to get physical early in a bid to set the tempo, but the Tigers may target some of the more inexperienced Lions. The home side's full list has a combined finals experience of 64 matches (seventh of the eight teams in the finals) compared to the Tigers' 148 (fourth).
The Tigers have won their past 13 straight against the Lions since 2010, but the manner in which the visitors almost stole victory at the MCG in round 23 reinforced how much this team has improved. That the Gabba has again become a fortress (10-1) will fortify the Lions, but Richmond know all about handling pressure. And playing away from the MCG is also not an issue in terms of ground dimensions, insists Tigers coach Damien Hardwick. "The good thing about [the Gabba], the dimensions are pretty similar to the MCG, so it's not going to be anything foreign to us," he said.
What will the Tigers do about Lachie Neale?
To tag or not to tag? That's the question facing Hardwick when deciding how best to tame the Lions' dynamic onballer. Neale had 51 touches at the MCG a fortnight ago, 32 of which were handballs. Neale had 14 clearances and was instrumental in the Lions' fightback midway through the game. Should the Tigers opt to tag Neale, it could give his Lions' teammates greater freedom. Hardwick said the Tigers had much to debate. "We try and quell the influence where it is, at the source, but he is very agile at the stoppage, that's the strength of him [Neale]," Hardwick said.
Will Dylan Grimes again go to Charlie Cameron?
You would think so, considering the success the Tigers' defender had on Cameron in round 23. Cameron was held to only seven touches, including one possession in the first half. What was clear was that Cameron was unhappy with some of Grimes' tactics, although the Tiger was later cleared by the AFL of any wrongdoing.
The Lions will hope coach Chris Fagan has settled the speedy forward, whose dash will be needed to trouble and stretch a Tigers' defence that is so proficient in helping each other out. Cameron would be wise to look to push Grimes up the ground then double back and turn this match-up into a foot race when the opportunity arises. He will also be needed to ensure the Lions have more ground balls inside attacking 50, for they were minus 17 in this area in round 23.
Can the Lions tame Jack Riewoldt and Tom Lynch?
Yes, but this shapes as a major issue, particularly if Marcus Adams has another horror afternoon, as he did on Riewoldt when they last met. Adams, the former Bulldog, had completed a shutdown job on Tom Hawkins a week earlier, but Riewoldt made a statement early. He had four goals before Darcy Gardiner was moved on to him in the second term. Adams was switched to Trent Cotchin, who immediately converted a free kick, compounding a miserable game. Essendon great Matthew Lloyd says Adams is too often guilty of "ball watching". The Tigers will look to isolate Riewoldt at full-forward and, with space, he could run amok, particularly if there is excellent service again from Dion Prestia and Dustin Martin. Fagan may try and free up Adams to be more of a marking intercept threat.
Who will win and why?
The Tigers will benefit from having frontline ruckman Toby Nankervis back from injury. Will the Lions push their wingmen forward of the ball, meaning their counterparts cannot get back early and outnumber the Lions' forwards? The Tigers like to have a spare man in defence. They will also hope small forwards Shai Bolton, Kane Lambert, Jason Castagna and Daniel Rioli can lock the ball inside attacking 50, ensuring repeated attempts at goal. The Lions will hope they can replicate their strong advantage in clearances of a fortnight ago, but it was a testament to the Tigers' overall set up that they still prevailed. If they can add greater polish when swarming forward, the Lions could find themselves one game away from a grand final.
Prediction: Richmond in a close one.
https://www.theage.com.au/sport/afl/final-questions-richmond-v-brisbane-qualifying-final-at-the-gabba-20190903-p52nbs.html
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Ch 7 just showed the Gabba and said it's perfect conditions for footy up there.
Hopefully, if we can match or better them in the midfield, then Lynch, Jack and Nank when he pushes forward can have a field day marking the incoming footy with our smalls front and square at their feet to sweep up any crumbs :pray.
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We need that forward pressure and midfield pressure and hit them hard lock it up there and force them through the corridor they like going wide.Midfield needs to win there percentage breake even atleast can't have them dominate and make our forward entry's count and kick straight.Our smalls need to chip in to. :gotigers
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Last time there was next to no pressure inside our forward 50 no tackles allowing the lions players easy exits.
We need to amp it up with our pressure both forward and in the midfield.
It’s finals footy fellas :gotigers
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Balmey on Ch 7 just now said we'll go head to head with them in the midfield and won't be tagging Neale unless he starts to get away.
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Soldo is first ruck tonight. Nank starting on the bench.
FINAL INTERCHANGES
Brisbane: Jarrod Berry, Zac Bailey, Alex Witherden, Oscar McInerney
Richmond: Jayden Short, Toby Nankervis, Shai Bolton, Jack Graham
https://www.afl.com.au/news/2019-09-07/final-teams-brisbane-v-richmond
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Well we know who Jobe Watson wants to win tonight ::).
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First 10-15 mins is going to be important. A young side like the Lions is going to be over-hyped at the start. Need to hit them hard and wear them down.
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Great tackle Jack....... and looooooooooong Goal! :gotigers
Top stuff.
Rich 1.0-6
Bris 0.0-0
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Haha Cameron you sook. Dumb by Hipwood :lol.
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Umps already show they read and listen to too much media.
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Grimesy :bow.
Sheds hits up Jack. Shanks it :P. Hodge stops it going OOTF. Throw-in. Dusty goal! :gotigers
Rich 2.0-12
Bris 0.0-0
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Frees: 2 - 5 ::)
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So the Lions player can bear hug Jack in the marking contest?
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Our half-forwards need to contest better and stop them rebounding easily and giving them repeat entries.
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Cameron holding Grimes' jumper. Commentators say nothing ::).
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Cameron Ling = twit!
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Any chance we apply pressure?
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Just get it forward at the centre clearances Prestia. Trying for that extra handball and we're just coughing it up.
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It all starts in the middle. We're getting smashed.
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We have some serious passengers at the moment. But good response.
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Not rocket science. Win the centre clearance and we goal. Great work Soldo down to Cotch. Sheds goal :gotigers.
Rich 3.0-18
Bris 3.5-23
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Some of our kicks out of defence have been woeful. Turnover city :banghead.
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Nankervis that was terrible. Looks off the pace but isn’t alone there.
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Another dumb turnover in the midfield :banghead. Gifting them goals :banghead. Nank you can't wheel around in traffic in a final. Just get it forward!
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Short & Ellis look unsuited to finals football. They need to lift otherwise swap them out.
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Quarter time
Richmond 3.0-18
Brisbane 4.6-30
Goals: Riewoldt, Martin, Edwards.
Dumb dumb dumb footy and a lack of workrate from too many passengers. Lucky to be only 2 goals down after that reactive pressure-less crap :banghead.
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Looks like we're gonna get smashed fellas. 10 scoring shots in one quarter, to 3.
Their mids are looking a bit too hard and fast currently.
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We need to take out our one wood.
It’s gone missing.
We are pretty ordinary if we don’t play our way. Rubbish.
We need someone to stop Zorko he’s killing us in the stoppage and forward 50s.
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Short & Ellis look unsuited to finals football. They need to lift otherwise swap them out.
Ummm Ellis is putrid :lol
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Need to be careful of the umps as they are blowing the whistle at will. Mids need to lift big time!
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Short & Ellis look unsuited to finals football. They need to lift otherwise swap them out.
Ummm Ellis is putrid :lol
I think he soiled himself when he saw he was lined up against Robinson.
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Ellis has been extremely poor. His effort is below the required standard. Need to get Caddy into the game. Small forwards need to get involved. It appears only Bolton has touched the ball. Brisbane too easily getting out of tackles. Poor ball use hurting us. Prestia needs to improve his ball use.
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Short & Ellis look unsuited to finals football. They need to lift otherwise swap them out.
This is where we miss Stack. Knows no fear and is clean.
Mind you there's plenty of Tigers so far fumbling and slow in their decision making.
Hope Dimma gives them a rocket in the huddle. All starts by winning the contested footy. Too many Tigers reactive and waiting for someone else to go in and win it.
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Caddy off the wing long and Cotch marks in the pocket. Misses.
19 - 30
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Cut out the extra handball :banghead.
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Lynch free 55 out. Goes long. Rushed.
20 - 30
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Lynch again long. Goes over the back but our smalls are nowhere :banghead. Rushed again.
21 - 30
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Wow Lynch, dumb kick. Should have been an I50...
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Bolton speckie! :clapping
Finds Lynch 20 out. Goal! :gotigers
Back in it.
Rich 4.3-27
Bris 4.6-30
Cotch has lead the way.
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Nank turns it over again. Free ball from the ruck and coughs it up :facepalm.
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Our own dumb turnovers are killing us. That's why they are slicing through us Richo. Lucky Rainer sprayed it OOTF.
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Our hand balling is way off the mark, too many missed targets or hospital passes.
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Omg Rioli fell over fml
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Sooky sooky Cameron :lol.
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Caddy long. Rioli crumbs off Lynch = goal! :gotigers
In front!
Rich 5.3-33
Bris 4.7-31
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Great tackle Graham.
Where's our small forwards at the fall when it goes over the back?
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Great tackle Graham.
Where's our small forwards at the fall when it goes over the back?
I saw 4 lions waiting for it. No tigers!
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Omg B Ellis. Just shoot him
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Another poor handball turnover :banghead
Just shooting ourselves in the foot with these missed handballs.
Lucky they missed a sitter.
We make them pay for their miss. George (first touch?) finds Dusty = goal!
Rich 6.3-39
Bris 4.9-33
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Ellis, dear in the headlights again.
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Omg B Ellis.
Almost cost us a goal.
Lucky their big O is a shocking kick.
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Finally some forward pressure and smalls at Lynch's feet. Bolton goal :gotigers
Rich 7.3-45
Bris 4.10-34
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Tell you what, when Castagna gets involved he makes it hurt
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4.3 to 0.4 that qtr.
Half-time
Richmond 3.0 7.3-45
Brisbane 4.6 4.10-34
Goals: Martin 2, Riewoldt, Lynch, Edwards, Bolton, Rioli.
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Very, very lucky to be in front. They could have had 3-4 goals easily.
Let off big time. Cotch needs to nail those ones, make it hurt
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Cotchin outstanding. Martin, Houli, Grimes, Caddy, Rioli and Bolton important that quarter. If we have any chance to win this game Ellis needs to stay on the bench.
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Forward handpass not working. Need to kick to contest.
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Cotchin and caddy excellent that quarter.
Still missing too many tackles in my opinion. We need to stick tackles and smash them.
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If Ellis doesn’t get dropped I don’t know what the hell the coaches are thinking.
Soft as butter panic merchant that is a liability.
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Cotch showing why he is captain.
Grimes is a superstar. Ice man.
The only time they got shots in that 2nd quarter was off our dumb turnovers especially by hand :banghead.
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Not many players up to it at the minute but encouraging that we have the lead after all of that. If we can get the game on our terms than look out.
Tackling poor don’t just need to stick them but pin the arms so they can’t get rid of it.
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Wouldn't surprise me if we lose this.
Lions are winning almost everything, except tackling which we are doing surprisingly well, and accuracy in front of goal.
Need to step up or we'll be toast once they start kicking straight
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^ by well I mean at least we've laid plenty, missed heaps too
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Cotchin and caddy excellent that quarter.
Still missing too many tackles in my opinion. We need to stick tackles and smash them.
Tackling around the arms might help, we seem to be tackling too much around the waste, such a simple thing to do but we continually allow opposition players to get the ball away.
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Four unanswered goals in the second quarter give Richmond the lead at half time. It was a tale of accuracy in that second quarter, with the Tigers kicking 4.1 (25) from inside 30 metres to goal, while the Lions kicked 0.4 (4) from their shots on goal from the same distance.
After Richmond played on from a mark 40 percent of the time in the first quarter, there has been a shift in this second quarter, with the Tigers playing on from a mark just 20 percent of the time in this quarter. In comparison, the Lions have typically stopped after marking, playing on just 13 percent of the time so far tonight.
Team stats:
Disposals: 141 - 173
Efficiency%: 70 - 72
Marks: 28 - 48 ( marks F50: 5 - 7 )
Turnovers: 41 - 33 :banghead
Clearances: 16 - 20 ( centre: 3 - 8 )
Inside 50s: 19 - 33
Tackles: 39 - 29 ( tackles F50: 7 - 6 )
Hitouts: 21 - 19
One%ers: 29 - 24
Frees: 12 - 17
Individual possies:
Lambert 13
Prestia 13
Sheds 12
Cotch 9
Floss 8
Short 8
Houli 8
Grimes 8
Dusty 7
Ellis 7
Graham 6
Caddy 6
Lynch 6
Bolton 5
Astbury 5
George 4
Baker 4
Soldo 4
Jack 3
Nank 3
Rioli 2
Broad 0
https://www.afl.com.au/match-centre/2019/24/bl-v-rich#/player-stats
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Prestia hands to Sheds out of the middle long and Dusty's jumper is grabbed. Goal! :gotigers
Last 5 goals to us.
Rich 8.3-51
Bris 4.10-34
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Every time we hang onto the ball in the centre clearance rather than just kicking it forward we turn it over :banghead.
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Poor kick Rioli. Hung too long although Bolton should have been better there.
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Great stuff Tiges. Taps and kicks on. Transition out of defence goal to Rioli :gotigers.
Rich 9.3-57
Bris 4.10-34
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Graham out of the middle. Rioli front and square dribbles it ... hits the post.
58 - 34
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Throw-in in the pocket. Dusty crumbs his 4th :gotigers
Rich 10.4-64
Bris 4.10-34
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Forward pressure forces Hodge to kick it OOTF. George bangs it back in and Lynch takes the contested mark in the pack. Goal! :gotigers
Last 8 goals in a row.
Rich 11.4-70
Bris 4.10-34
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Ellis that was soft.
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All over them.
Force the turnover and Caddy bangs it home from 50 on the run :gotigers.
Rich 12.4-76
Bris 4.10-34
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Is Ellis a baby Giraffe on roller skates disguised as an AFL footballer?
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Grrrr! They are only scoring off our dumb turnovers :banghead. Thankfully there's only been that one this qtr.
76 - 41
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Playing a man down with Ellis tonight. Went the bump there instead of the tackle :facepalm.
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So Hodge can front on tackle and get Dusty high but Bolton gets pinged 2 mins earlier?
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George bananas a goal :gotigers.
Caddy having a blinder tonight on the wing.
Rich 13.4-82
Bris 5.12-42
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Bolton cementing his spot in the side too.
Dusty 5 goals :gotigers
Rich 14.4-88
Bris 5.12-42
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Sook about that miss Cameron :rollin.
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Grrr! Ballwatching in defence :banghead.
88 - 50
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3/4 time
Richmond 3.0 7.3 14.4-88
Brisbane 4.6 4.10 6.14-50
Goals: Martin 5, Lynch 2, Rioli 2, Riewoldt, Edwards, Bolton, Caddy, Castagna.
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Best 3rd quarter of the year! Devastating! :gotigers
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Martin, Caddy and Bolton all great in that quarter. Edwards was incredible in that quarter.
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Much better quarter from Nank. Now we've got two rucks winning the hitouts which is giving us first use. Sheds, Caddy, Graham, Prestia, Bolton tore that quarter apart across the middle. Dusty the cherry on top with the Pagan's paddock. Lynch's aerobic ability on display too playing high forward and cleaning up in the air and at ground level.
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Rioli hasn't hurt that ankle again? :-\
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He was off! That's holding the ball not 50 :banghead.
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Cue in the rack
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That courageous mark was the first decent thing Ellis has done all night.
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LOL Dusty. Dodgy :whistle but brilliant. Jack gets the goal :gotigers.
Rich 15.4-94
Bris 6.16-52
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Crowd: 37k
Biggest crowd ever in Brisbane. Another notch on our popularity belt. We bring the crowds wherever we go :thumbsup.
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MT - I know you love smashing the umpires like nobody else , but you can’t really think we haven’t had best of it tonight ?
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Bloody hell he's a freak. Dusty with 6 :gotigers
Rich 16.4-100
Bris 7.17-59
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MT - I know you love smashing the umpires like nobody else , but you can’t really think we haven’t had best of it tonight ?
No they've been good tonight. Haven't been sucked in by the crowd. Just that one decision I was questioning.
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Jack free and 50. Goal! :gotigers
Rich 17.4-106
Bris 7.17-59
I wish we kicked this accurately most of the time.
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Everything coming off now. Caddy goal :gotigers
Rich 18.4-112
Bris 7.17-59
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That was a bloody good win. Steadied after quarter time and dominated from then on.
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Off to the home Prelim :gotigers
Final Score
Richmond 3.0 7.3 14.4 18.4-112
Brisbane 4.6 4.10 6.14 8.17-65
Goals: Martin 6, Riewoldt 3, Lynch 2, Rioli 2, Caddy 2, Edwards, Bolton, Castagna.
:clapping
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Prelim bound baby!!!
Carn the mighty tigessssss!!!
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Brayshaw just said tonight was the 2nd more accurate performance in front of goal in a final :clapping.
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That was a bloody good win. Steadied after quarter time and dominated from then on.
But but but we can't win away from the 'G, interstate and in a final :snidegrin.
Seriously, you're right. It was a top win. Woke up after 1/4 time and then we went to another gear after half-time and they couldn't go with us.
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Thought Graham had a good game. Lambert despite getting a lot of the ball wasn't as good as he usually is.
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MT - I know you love smashing the umpires like nobody else , but you can’t really think we haven’t had best of it tonight ?
Lol we've been smashed by the umps for 3 years in a row with statistics to match, we finally had luck on our side. Get ya hand off it
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MT - I know you love smashing the umpires like nobody else , but you can’t really think we haven’t had best of it tonight ?
Lol we've been smashed by the umps for 3 years in a row with statistics to match, we finally had luck on our side. Get ya hand off it
stuff off clown
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Guys we won the game and on the same team. Be happy and celebrate the win :gotigers.
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Dusty got away with a dirty ol throw. game was over but if it was against us I would of been crappy. We won well, that is all that matters at the end of the day ONE DOWN!!!!
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A comfortable victory to the Tigers in the end, who made the most of their forward 50 entries, kicking extremely accurately. Richmond recorded 6.1 (37) from set shots in comparison to the Lions 6.6 (42), while the Tigers also kicked 12.1 (73) from general play, compared to the Lions 2.9 (21). Brisbane kicked 1.7 (13) from 30-40 metres out tonight, despite the Lions ranking 3rd for goalkicking accuracy before tonight's game.
The Tigers have generated a lot of score tonight from intercepts, scoring 8.2 (50) from this source. Of this score, five goals have come from forward half intercepts and three goals from defensive half. In comparison, the Lions have scored 3.9 (27) from intercepts.
Team Stats:
Disposals: 315 - 354 ( contested: 144 - 157 )
Efficiency%: 71 - 72
Turnovers: 77 - 67
Marks: 60 - 97 ( contested: 11 - 18 ; marks F50: 7 - 13 )
Inside 50s: 54 - 62
Clearances: 39 - 44 (centre: 11 - 15 )
Tackles: 78 - 56 ( tackles F50: 18 - 15 )
Hitouts: 49 - 39
One%ers: 52 - 55
Frees: 22 - 25
Individual possies:
Prestia 32
Edwards 29
Lambert 20
Cotch 19
Floss 18
Ellis 17
Baker 16
Short 15
Houli 15
George 14
Caddy 14
Graham 14
Astbury 14
Dusty 14 + 6 goals
Bolton 13
Grimes 12
Lynch 12
Soldo 7
Rioli 7
Jack 6
Nank 5
Broad 2
https://www.afl.com.au/match-centre/2019/24/bl-v-rich#/team-stats
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withstood the initial onslaught and then taught them a lesson. A very professional win.
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Highlights: https://www.richmondfc.com.au/video/2019-09-07/highlights-qualifying-final
Team song: https://www.richmondfc.com.au/video/2019-09-07/team-song-richmond
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Always was going to happen lions come at us at home and we did our job 1qtr stayed in the game and took over the game.
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Amazing atmosphere there last night, sensational
Great win, great weekend :thumbsup
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Amazing atmosphere there last night, sensational
Great win, great weekend :thumbsup
One of the best
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Amazing atmosphere there last night, sensational
Great win, great weekend :thumbsup
After quarter time yes. Prior to that negative.
Where were you sitting? I was in sec 26 and had these 2 lions supporter throwing c bombs left right and centre in my ear with my kid next to me and I had to pull them in
All for a bit of banter even light swearing but c bombs in kids ears geez.
Anyway didn't hear them after quarter time.
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Amazing atmosphere there last night, sensational
Great win, great weekend :thumbsup
After quarter time yes. Prior to that negative.
Where were you sitting? I was in sec 26 and had these 2 lions supporter throwing c bombs left right and centre in my ear with my kid next to me and I had to pull them in
All for a bit of banter even light swearing but c bombs in kids ears geez.
Anyway didn't hear them after quarter time.
I was in section 55 up high behind the goals and it was mostly Brisbane people but they were all great. I’m not sure if they are as fanatical as us Tigers probably due to them being so poo of late, but it was all good clean banter around us.
I even got a couple of high fives off them as they all started leaving early.
I hope they win this weekend and get some reward for the massive year they have had.
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Robbo: A Dusty demolition worth savouring
Mark Robinson,
Herald Sun
9 September 2019
A colossal preliminary final weekend will be played at the MCG after Richmond — and an astonishing Dustin Martin — put Brisbane in their place at the Gabba.
The Tigers recovered from a first-quarter onslaught from the Lions and, in a typically high pressure, relentless and efficient performance, beat down Brisbane and its boisterous home crowd.
It was a frightening on-the-road victory.
Frightening in the sense that their first journey away from the MCG in the past two months resulted in an emphatic 47-point win.
The final score was 18.4 (112) to 8.17 (65).
They are in “anywhere, anytime’’ mood and now the premiership favourites will play the winner of the next week’s semi-final between Geelong and West Coast.
They join Collingwood on the penultimate weekend after the Magpies’ last-man-standing win over the Cats on Friday night.
On the same weekend last year, the Magpies humiliated Richmond, an effort that can’t be rectified, but also can’t be forgotten.
This time, they are on opposite sides of the finals draw, leaving open the tantalising prospect of a Collingwood-Richmond Grand Final.
The Magpies were brave against the Cats, finishing the game with 20 men and probably losing Jordan Jodan de Goey (hamstring) for the year and defender Levi Greenwood (ACL) for the next 12 months
The Tigers were brave and bruising and all encompassing, just like a flag favourite should be.
You need your role players to play well and your leaders to play better.
It was the familiar names of Shane Edwards (29 disposals), Dion Prestia (32 disposals), skipper Trent Cotchin (in the second quarter) and Dustin Martin (six goals) who made the right plays when the opportunities presented, be it winning the hard ball or kicking goals.
Martin remains the most devastating matchwinner in the competition.
He kicked three goals in the third term to squeeze the life out of the Lions, playing mainly out of the goalsquare.
The impact of Martin is two-fold. He can be a burst player in the midfield and he was solid enough early, but it was his occupation in Richmond’s forward 50m which turned this game on its head.
Patrick Dangerfield is a powerhouse and Scott Pendlebury an orchestra master, as we witnessed on Friday night, but in Martin you have both these attributes, a kind of Pavarotti at a rave party.
You could argue he’s having more impact on games than he did through his remarkable 2017 season, where he won the Brownlow Medal, every media award and the Norm Smith Medal for being best on ground in the Grand Final.
In this form, it’s difficult to find words to describe his performance. Sometimes, you just have to look, savour and shake your head in admiration.
Saturday night was one of those times.
The final margin of seven goals belied a dazzling first quarter from the Lions.
Jack Riewoldt kicked the first goal of the game after he tackled and laid on Daniel Rich. Some observers believed Rich didn’t have prior opportunity, but the fact is Rich simply can’t lie on the ball without trying to get rid of it.
The much-hyped Dylan Grimes-Charlie Cameron contest was won by Grimes again, although a dive by Grimes in the first quarter was unedifying.
Yes, Eric Hipwood knocked over Grimes, who had given away a free kick to Cameron, but the umpire fell for the Grimes dive.
That said, Hipwood gave the umpire the option. It was a foolish start to the game for Hipwood and unfortunately for him, his night didn’t get better.
The Lions were amped early, and mistakes were made, but soon enough kicked three consecutive goals, which had the Gabba crowd bouncing.
These bullish Lions, led by Jarrod Berry, Mitch Robinson and Jarryd Lyons, took it up to the Tigers and at quarter-time, had won stoppages 13-7, contested ball 45-31, shots at goal 10-3 and inside 50s were 23-6.
The problem was they kicked 4.6 At the half, they had kicked 4.10.
Football can be dissected in a hundred ways, but often the most simple dissection is the scoreboard.
Simply, the Lions kicked poorly for goal and the Tigers were efficient.
During the second quarter, Cameron missed, Raynor missed and McStay missed goals, before the ball was swept down field for Martin to mark and kick the goal.
When the Big O — Oscar McInerney — missed yet another shot at goal, the ball was transferred to the other end, where Shai Bolton kicked the goal.
Down by 12 pints at quarter-time, the Tigers led by 11 points at halftime.
When Martin was grabbed by Marcus Adams at the start of the third quarter and kicked the goal from the free kick, it was Richmond’s fifth consecutive goal and the pathway into their third consecutive preliminary final was alight.
Five consecutive goals turned into nine consecutive goals, which turned into another wholehearted Richmond demolition.
https://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/expert-opinion/mark-robinson/mark-robinson-richmond-was-frightening-in-win-over-brisbane/news-story/fc9b56b19c54ebd1d72ac0b5f099a738
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Amazing atmosphere there last night, sensational
Great win, great weekend :thumbsup
After quarter time yes. Prior to that negative.
Where were you sitting? I was in sec 26 and had these 2 lions supporter throwing c bombs left right and centre in my ear with my kid next to me and I had to pull them in
All for a bit of banter even light swearing but c bombs in kids ears geez.
Anyway didn't hear them after quarter time.
I was in section 55 up high behind the goals and it was mostly Brisbane people but they were all great. I’m not sure if they are as fanatical as us Tigers probably due to them being so poo of late, but it was all good clean banter around us.
I even got a couple of high fives off them as they all started leaving early.
I hope they win this weekend and get some reward for the massive year they have had.
Sweet. We were right near our players bench so can't complain there.
I agree don't mind the lions but I think the giants will be a tougher opponent for the pies so I'll be cheering for them.
Don't think lions will offer up and resistance at the g, but happy to be proven wrong
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Amazing atmosphere there last night, sensational
Great win, great weekend :thumbsup
After quarter time yes. Prior to that negative.
Where were you sitting? I was in sec 26 and had these 2 lions supporter throwing c bombs left right and centre in my ear with my kid next to me and I had to pull them in
All for a bit of banter even light swearing but c bombs in kids ears geez.
Anyway didn't hear them after quarter time.
I was in section 55 up high behind the goals and it was mostly Brisbane people but they were all great. I’m not sure if they are as fanatical as us Tigers probably due to them being so poo of late, but it was all good clean banter around us.
I even got a couple of high fives off them as they all started leaving early.
I hope they win this weekend and get some reward for the massive year they have had.
Sweet. We were right near our players bench so can't complain there.
I agree don't mind the lions but I think the giants will be a tougher opponent for the pies so I'll be cheering for them.
Don't think lions will offer up and resistance at the g, but happy to be proven wrong
We were in section 50 which was 95% Tigers
Our 1st quarter was poor but that doesnt take away from the atmosphere which was fantastic for the whole game. The noise was exactly the way finals should
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Robbo: A Dusty demolition worth savouring
Mark Robinson,
Herald Sun
9 September 2019
Thank goodness someone in the media said it.
Grimes went down but Hipwood was dumb enough to go for him when Cameron was taking a shot for goal.
Rich has minimal opportunity to dispose of the ball but also made ZERO effort hence got pinged - just like Conca vs Geelong in 2016 I think?
Stiff calls maybe but they could have gone either way. We got a good deal I reckon but it's not like this was blatant favouritism. Just lucky interpretation!
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Robbo: A Dusty demolition worth savouring
Mark Robinson,
Herald Sun
9 September 2019
Rich has minimal opportunity to dispose of the ball but also made ZERO effort hence got pinged - just like Conca vs Geelong in 2016 I think?
The thing that went against Rich was that the arm that had the ball was free, if he was wrapped up and the ball underneath him, it would have been a ball up.
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The surprising numbers behind Richmond’s qualifying final win
By SEN
9 Sep 2019
Australian Football Hall of Famer Terry Wallace has revealed some surprising statistics from Richmond’s qualifying final win over Brisbane.
A dazzling career-best six-goal haul from Dustin Martin inspired the Tigers to a 47-point victory and sealed their passage through to a third straight preliminary final.
Damien Hardwick’s side piled on nine consecutive goals in the second and third quarters to overpower an inexperience Lions outfit.
The stats sheet didn’t necessarily reflect the ease of Richmond’s win.
“They had 11 players in the first quarter that had 11 touches. One touch per player of half your team, and you still go on and win easily,” Wallace told SEN’s Bob and Andy.
“I just sit back and shake my head with Richmond about what they do.
“They lost kicks by 45, they lost contested possession by 13, they lost uncontested possession by 48, they lost marks by 37, it was 13-7 marks inside forward 50 against them, they were minus five in clearances and they were minus 11 in inside 50s, and they won by seven or eight goals.”
Richmond will take on either Geelong or West Coast on Friday, September 20 at the MCG for a spot in the Grand Final.
https://www.sen.com.au/news/2019/09/09/the-surprising-numbers-behind-richmonds-qualifying-final-win/
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Nick Riewoldt believes the game purely and simply came down to goal kicking conversion.
“Two weeks in a row they win the clearances, they win contested possession, they have more inside 50s, this time they had more shots at goal 29 to 25 – and you lose the game by eight goals,” he said.
“Obviously, and we sometimes overlook this as an important factor within games, you’ve just got to convert.
“This was a five or six goal lead at half time for Brisbane and they came in down on the scoreboard.
“We heard Jack Riewoldt on the coverage after the game saying we needed to maintain our composure at half-time. It’s easy to be composed when you’re sitting there and you’re up on the scoreboard and not playing well.
“If Brisbane had have been able to apply that scoreboard pressure, it might have been a different story.
“They played a brilliant half and didn’t get the reward for it.”
Garry Lyon believes the young side may have had a few nerves on the big stage.
“You’ve got to fully believe that you’re there, you deserve to be there and you belong. There was a stage there where it was right in front of them and they had this great Richmond side on the mat early and they just didn’t take it.”
https://www.sen.com.au/news/2019/09/08/overawed-lions-kicked-home-prelim-chances-away/
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Mini-me flew over from Perth bus Melb and said the Melb leg of the flt was full of Tiger supporters. We were in section 17 behind the cheer squad
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Coaches votes (Hardwick & Fagan)
BRISBANE v RICHMOND
9 Shane Edwards (RICH)
9 Dustin Martin (RICH)
4 Dylan Grimes (RICH)
3 Lachie Neale (BL)
3 Luke Hodge (BL)
2 Dion Prestia (RICH)
GARY AYRES AWARD LEADERBOARD
10 Jamie Cripps
10 Tim Taranto
9 Shane Edwards
9 Dustin Martin
8 Luke Shuey
7 Patrick Dangerfield
7 Jacob Hopper
https://www.afl.com.au/news/2019-09-09/aflca-gary-ayres-award-early-lead-for-eagles-goalkicker-young-giant-
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Watch Dusty run them down...
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(https://www.bigfooty.com/forum/proxy.php?image=https%3A%2F%2Fcdn.discordapp.com%2Fattachments%2F294221154988851202%2F619900707134504961%2FZyY1Z6N.png&hash=317f7542ce2364eeef141b4669864144) (from Sports Mate App)
Pretty easy for us to kick straight when we are kicking them from point blank, and they were trying to kick them on tighter angles and longer distances, forced them out wide.
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They missed plenty of sitters IMO.
And Richmond kicked some genuinely difficult ones. Lots of snaps, on the run, Caddy from 50m, Jack from 60m etc, some dribbles.
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They missed plenty of sitters IMO.
And Richmond kicked some genuinely difficult ones. Lots of snaps, on the run, Caddy from 50m, Jack from 60m etc, some dribbles.
Definitely missed some sitters and we got some lucky ones but we were able to kick allot from the goal square (they weren't)
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Champion Data claims we would have won by only 3 points if both sides kicked as expected at goal.
The Gabba thriller that wasn't
Look away now, Lions fans.
Brisbane would already be ruing what might have been had it kicked straighter in the first half of Saturday night's 47-point qualifying final defeat to Richmond.
The Lions' 8.17 (65) total is the fifth-most inaccurate finals scoreline since Champion Data began including complete misses in 2002.
The Tigers' 18.4 (112), on the other hand, was the fifth-most accurate by the same measure.
Champion Data's 'expected score' metric, which takes into account the difficulty of each shot and predicts the outcome, has put that hollow feeling into even sharper focus.
Brisbane should have boasted a two-goal half-time lead (instead of being down by about that margin), been within eight points at the last break (38) and lost by only three points (47).
EXPECTED SCORES BY QUARTER
TIME BRISBANE RICHMOND
QT 31 (30)* 15 (18)*
HT 53 (34) 41 (45)
3QT 69 (50) 77 (88)
FT 94 (65) 97 (112)
* Actual score in brackets
https://www.afl.com.au/news/2019-09-10/stats-files-the-tweaks-that-could-lead-the-pies-to-flag-redemption
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Oh please.
Metrics....
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Scoreboard pressure is also a metric, probably the most important.
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Champion Data claims we would have won by only 3 points if both sides kicked as expected at goal.
The Gabba thriller that wasn't
Look away now, Lions fans.
Brisbane would already be ruing what might have been had it kicked straighter in the first half of Saturday night's 47-point qualifying final defeat to Richmond.
The Lions' 8.17 (65) total is the fifth-most inaccurate finals scoreline since Champion Data began including complete misses in 2002.
The Tigers' 18.4 (112), on the other hand, was the fifth-most accurate by the same measure.
Champion Data's 'expected score' metric, which takes into account the difficulty of each shot and predicts the outcome, has put that hollow feeling into even sharper focus.
Brisbane should have boasted a two-goal half-time lead (instead of being down by about that margin), been within eight points at the last break (38) and lost by only three points (47).
EXPECTED SCORES BY QUARTER
TIME BRISBANE RICHMOND
QT 31 (30)* 15 (18)*
HT 53 (34) 41 (45)
3QT 69 (50) 77 (88)
FT 94 (65) 97 (112)
* Actual score in brackets
https://www.afl.com.au/news/2019-09-10/stats-files-the-tweaks-that-could-lead-the-pies-to-flag-redemption
So instead of scoring in Q1 3 straight shots for 18, according to metrics we should have had two more scoring shots for 2 goals 3 points.
Righteo then.
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...and of course because the play would've unfolded exactly same way from a centre bounce as it would've from a kick-in... :shh
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...and of course because the play would've unfolded exactly same way from a centre bounce as it would've from a kick-in... :shh
Top post :clapping
This seems to go amiss for many an AFL fan in the shoulda, woulda,, coulda arguments :shh
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Every single game result from the season gone could be analysed in exactly the same way, we beat them in two consecutive games, we were the better side, they hit us both times with their best punches and on both occasions we absorbed it and did what we do best....time to move onto bigger and better things.
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What’s the difference, we win either way. Couldn’t care less if it’s by 1 or 100 points.
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Champion Data claims we would have won by only 3 points if both sides kicked as expected at goal.
The Gabba thriller that wasn't
Look away now, Lions fans.
Brisbane would already be ruing what might have been had it kicked straighter in the first half of Saturday night's 47-point qualifying final defeat to Richmond.
The Lions' 8.17 (65) total is the fifth-most inaccurate finals scoreline since Champion Data began including complete misses in 2002.
The Tigers' 18.4 (112), on the other hand, was the fifth-most accurate by the same measure.
Champion Data's 'expected score' metric, which takes into account the difficulty of each shot and predicts the outcome, has put that hollow feeling into even sharper focus.
Brisbane should have boasted a two-goal half-time lead (instead of being down by about that margin), been within eight points at the last break (38) and lost by only three points (47).
EXPECTED SCORES BY QUARTER
TIME BRISBANE RICHMOND
QT 31 (30)* 15 (18)*
HT 53 (34) 41 (45)
3QT 69 (50) 77 (88)
FT 94 (65) 97 (112)
* Actual score in brackets
https://www.afl.com.au/news/2019-09-10/stats-files-the-tweaks-that-could-lead-the-pies-to-flag-redemption
So instead of scoring in Q1 3 straight shots for 18, according to metrics we should have had two more scoring shots for 2 goals 3 points.
Righteo then.
Look, I like my quantum physics and schrodingers cat etc, but that bs theory is magical thinking not probability. It would of worked maybe if they kicked one of those goals then the whole stuffing story changes from then on.
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Champion Data claims we would have won by only 3 points if both sides kicked as expected at goal.
The Gabba thriller that wasn't
Look away now, Lions fans.
Brisbane would already be ruing what might have been had it kicked straighter in the first half of Saturday night's 47-point qualifying final defeat to Richmond.
The Lions' 8.17 (65) total is the fifth-most inaccurate finals scoreline since Champion Data began including complete misses in 2002.
The Tigers' 18.4 (112), on the other hand, was the fifth-most accurate by the same measure.
Champion Data's 'expected score' metric, which takes into account the difficulty of each shot and predicts the outcome, has put that hollow feeling into even sharper focus.
Brisbane should have boasted a two-goal half-time lead (instead of being down by about that margin), been within eight points at the last break (38) and lost by only three points (47).
EXPECTED SCORES BY QUARTER
TIME BRISBANE RICHMOND
QT 31 (30)* 15 (18)*
HT 53 (34) 41 (45)
3QT 69 (50) 77 (88)
FT 94 (65) 97 (112)
* Actual score in brackets
https://www.afl.com.au/news/2019-09-10/stats-files-the-tweaks-that-could-lead-the-pies-to-flag-redemption
What a wank...
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Dockers should of won the last derby then with there 2.19
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Didn't get to watch the match on game day.
Im up to the 3rd quarter this morning, amazing how flat the commentators are when the game hasn't gone they way they wanted.
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Yep. They wanted a Brisbane win so they can pull themselves off over brissies rise and fagan and to stick the knife into us.
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As forwhat the score coukd have bern If my aunty had balls she woulda been my uncle. We won and won easy.
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Dockers should of won the last derby then with there 2.19
:lol
Lucky in the 1980 GF the Pies kicked 9.24-78 instead of 24.9-153 and we kicked 23.21-159 and not 21.23-149. We would have lost that flag by 4 points.
Bad kicking at goal is bad footy. Just as bad disposal through the midfield is. Most of the shots on goal Brisbane had in the first half were off the back of our poor dumb turnovers by hand on transition which we usually nail. Once we fixed that up midway through the 2nd qtr we dominated general play for the rest of the match.