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Football => Richmond Rant => Topic started by: mightytiges on June 19, 2004, 01:44:55 AM
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By Caroline Wilson
realfooty.theage.com.au
June 19, 2004
Richmond coach Danny Frawley is planning a dignified exit from Tigerland and could announce his resignation in a matter of days should the club lose to Carlton tonight.
Frawley is believed to have accepted his time is up as senior coach of the Tigers, having achieved only 45 wins from 103 games, and has told friends he will resign over the mid-season break should the finals become a mathematical impossibility after tonight.
But Frawley, 40, has no intention of walking out on his contract and will coach until the end of the season.
With the Tigers sitting 14th on the ladder with only four wins this season and the lowest percentage in the competition, the accepted wisdom at the club now is that despite his best attempts, Frawley has not lost the respect but no longer has the belief of his players.
A subcommittee headed up by director of football Greg Miller has made it clear that work has begun to find a new coach for 2005, although the popular choice, Kevin Sheedy, has not been contacted by his old club.
Sheedy will make a decision regarding a two-year contract offer from Essendon after this weekend's Melbourne game.
But Sheedy's connections scoffed at reports yesterday that the Bombers' coach had been approached by a rebel group plotting the demise of president Clinton Casey, saying Sheedy had no knowledge of any coup and had spoken to no one involved or potentially involved at Richmond since the start of the season.
After tonight's clash with the Blues, the Tigers are scheduled to meet four of the top five teams over the next month - Brisbane Lions, Essendon, St Kilda and Melbourne.
Frawley, his wife Anita and the couple's three children plan to remain in Melbourne despite substantial farming and other interests on both sides of the family around the Ballarat area.
Having worked at the AFL during his final years at St Kilda, where he holds the club record as captain, Frawley is regarded as eminently employable in the football industry.
One of his strengths at Richmond has been his development work with the younger players at the club.
Frawley's manager Ricky Nixon was unavailable for comment yesterday but is believed to have held a series of talks with Frawley and others regarding his future.
Miller told The Age: "Anything can happen in football. Danny and I certainly haven't discussed anything like that."
Having worked as an assistant for three years under Tony Shaw at Collingwood, Frawley took over from Jeff Gieschen at Tigerland in 2000.
He immediately encountered a new group of assistant coaches and a football department structure - with Casey replacing Leon Daphne and Mark Brayshaw replacing Jim Malone - that, in hindsight, left the rookie coach forced to confront situations in which he had little experience.
It was Shaw's mid-season retirement at Victoria Park, paving the way for Mick Malthouse's appointment, that could prove the model for Frawley's method of departure.
When former Kangaroos chief executive Miller took over the football department at the end of 2002, he quickly moved to extend Frawley's contract until the end of this year, removing a performance clause that Miller felt would have placed unfair pressure on the coach.
But Frawley began this, his final season, in dreadful circumstances when outgoing director and mentor Tony Jewell criticised his coaching style. Jewell said Frawley was indecisive in the coach's box and had come from a losing culture at St Kilda.
Casey then said just over a fortnight ago that the club needed to appoint an experienced coach next time around, a comment that hurt Frawley and which Tigers' football department insiders believe was the final straw for players' confidence in their coach.
The club was further damaged by Casey's eroding power-base.
Three directors resigned from his board at the start of the season, chief executive Ian Campbell was forced out, Casey's choice as his replacement Leighton Wood was vetoed by the rest of the board, and it was revealed that the club was in diabolical financial strife and would seek AFL assistance.
Football department costs have been cut this season and disastrous changes to the marketing department, along with a series of worst-case financial scenarios, mean the club will lose $2 million-3 million.
http://www.realfooty.theage.com.au/realfooty/articles/2004/06/18/1087245115139.html
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Happy days are here again ;D.
In all seriousness Danny if he does go through with quitting will have made the right call to go. Now for Brittain, Crocker, Hutchison, Spargo and Beck to do the same. It'll give us plenty of time and the opportunity to be open about going through the process of finding the next and right coach to rebuild our list.
One of his (Frawley's) strengths at Richmond has been his development work with the younger players at the club.
Apart from Coughlan and possibly Krakouer and Newman that comment is so off the mark it's funny. Sticking young blokes on the bench for 3/4 of each game and not bringing them on until the game is gone is good for their development Caro?! ::).
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thought id never say this but
come on carlton !!!!
oh i feel ill :-X
i think i need to go wash my mouth out now
see what u have done to me spud!! please pick me to help pack ur bags on ur way out.
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Thats the best news i've heard in years.
Better be true and not caro tripping on prozac again.
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One of his strengths at Richmond has been his development work with the younger players at the club.
Choking on my Weeties here!
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Weeties hey Froars, does it help with hangovers? lol
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Really, if he quits tonite or in amonths time, does it make any real difference.? He knows he wont be there next year. What would happen if he turned around and walked out tonight ?
We would have somebody worse takeover if thats possible, BRITAIN.
I would believe there is a bit of friction to say the least behind the scenes.
Ooouch, those knifes in the back must be sharp at punt road.
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I don't care when he does it as long as he's not there next year - or has any involvement in recruiting.
He seems a nice guy, but so is my newsagent - don't want him coaching our club either.
I still want to beat the Blues tonight PRR lol
Jackstar, don't care if there's friction there either. Let them suffer a bit like the supporters have for the past 20+ years.
Has anyone been outside yet lol
Had to go out early this morning and it is f**** freezing lol
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My newsagent is a nice bloke too.
Very cold outside , just been for a run.
Isnt it good we have TELSTRA DOME.
Hate to be playing at the g in weather like this although there are people on certain other forums who would still prefer there red seats in weather like this , lol
Lets just win tonite as it might be a long time between drinks for the remainder of the season.
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Development of young players??
Id like Caroline to justify that !!!
At least now we can chase coaches out in the open and not listen to party lines of 'processes at the end of the season' bollox.Get active and aggressive on securing a topline coach fellas,you carn't afford to stuff this appointment up.
If we believe this article,where does this leave the credibility(for the want of a better word) of Patrick Smiths article claiming Sheedy and a CEO of his choice were in the wings for a imminent ticket until yesterdays appointment of Steven Wright??
Caroline seems to be having a shot at Smith by claiming not only was the claim rubbish,but also he hasn't been approached at all??
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Best case senario is if we lose tonite at least he wont be there next year and we can play teh youngsters.
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he wont be there next year FULL STOP !
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He must be the biggest nuff nuff,loser to ever coach and AFL/VFL Team.
Go Blues and Good riddance you born loser.
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Well, I'll be going tonite, I want to see a win, but.......I know for the betterment of our club I'm sposed to want them to lose, but geez I paid good money for my seats, I dont want to sit in them and cry :'(. Its getting all too difficult to be a Richmond supporter lol
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We will win tonite and Frawley will resign after the Brisbane loss ???
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ok Jack, I'll be rapt with that, cant go to the brissy one anyway ;D
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Greg Miller was asked on MMM about Danny quitting after the game. He said it was just media speculation again and it's untrue. He seemed annoyed about speculative media reports about the Tigers everyday.
IMO for the Club's sake Danny should say he's going within the next month. Say no later than round 16 to still give us plenty of time to search for our next coach. With a record of 4-11 or 4-12 it would come across as a sensible action by Danny and show no sign he was pushed which would be good come the time we hunt for a new coach.
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Gee I hope this time that Car's predictions are more factual than her CEO (Leighton Wood appointment). ;D
Just remember folks that even though public statements aren't being made that doesn't mean there isn't movement behind the scenes.
As they say in the classics "keep the faith" ;D ;D ;D
;) ;)
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With the Tigers sitting 14th on the ladder with only four wins this season and the lowest percentage in the competition, the accepted wisdom at the club now is that despite his best attempts, Frawley has not lost the respect but no longer has the belief of his players.
http://www.realfooty.theage.com.au/realfooty/articles/2004/06/18/1087245115139.html
I have to say I am confused by this statement. :-\ :-\ :-[
What does it mean? Respect but no belief? ::)
I would be interested in people's thoughts on this one
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I THINK It means that the players respect him as a human being
but, by now, are aware that he has no coaching skill therefore giving them no belief in him as coach.
It means he's a good bloke but a professional dud.
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I THINK It means that the players respect him as a human being
but, by now, are aware that he has no coaching skill therefore giving them no belief in him as coach.
It means he's a good bloke but a professional dud.
Spot on Ox.
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Still no word.....................
he must be waiting until mid week to let us know that
HE IS RESIGNING AT THE END OF THE SEASON ! >:(
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Frawley tight-lipped over future
By Martin Blake
realfooty.theage.com.au
June 20, 2004
Danny Frawley refused to address questions on his future after Richmond slumped to another defeat, against Carlton, at Telstra Dome last night.
After the Tigers' record slipped to 4-9 at the break and out of contention for the finals, Frawley began his news conference with a plea for no questions about his own situation, which is tenuous to say the least. He would not confirm or deny the tenor of an Age article yesterday that suggested he was on the verge of resigning.
"Before I start, I'd like a little bit of respect and decency about the article that's in the paper today," said Frawley. "I reckon I've been fairly up-front and honest with you guys, and ladies. I would really respect if you could ask questions about the game."
Richmond's coach of the past five years said questions about his future needed to be addressed to other people. "I just don't need to be seen commenting about it."
On the Tigers' 31-point defeat, Frawley blamed the poor start, with Richmond slipping to a 55-point deficit midway through the second quarter before a third-quarter revival.
"It was a pretty disappointing first half. We showed a bit of grit in the second half but you can't afford to give away starts like that," he said.
The Richmond coach also acknowledged the influence of Carlton full-forward Brendan Fevola, who booted eight goals on Ray Hall, Ty Zantuck and Kayne Pettifer. "We had no one to play on Fevola . . . He had three opponents. His performance was the difference in the end. There's no doubting that."
Asked whether Richmond had given up on the finals, Frawley said: "It'll look after itself, I suppose. We've got to make sure we grow this group."
The Tigers were not helped last night by an early concussion suffered by Nathan Brown, who left the field for the whole second quarter before returning. Frawley said Brown had been "away with the fairies" and had shown great courage to return to the field.
http://www.realfooty.theage.com.au/realfooty/articles/2004/06/19/1087595792871.html
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Miller denies Frawley ready to resign
20 June 2004
Sunday Herald Sun
Jon Ralph
RICHMOND football director Greg Miller yesterday ruled out an announcement on Danny Frawley's coaching future this week, but said a decision before the end of the season was possible.
Miller, responding to reports Frawley would announce as early as today his intention to quit at the end of the year, said there had been no discussions about the coach's short-term future.
"It is pure speculation at the moment. Danny may have his own private thoughts, but certainly from the point of view of the club it is just speculation," he said.
"It is way beyond the boundaries of possibility. It won't happen. If that is to occur in two weeks, four weeks, eight weeks or 10 weeks, the first thing we would do is sit down and discuss it together.
"I have a chat to him about different things all the time. He probably knew (this week) it was a very difficult chance to make the finals. At some point that might happen at Round 21 or perhaps earlier, but it certainly hasn't been discussed yet."
There has been pressure on the Tigers since early in the year to either back Frawley's tenure or state their intentions for 2005. Miller said there was different speculation about the Tigers every day.
"It has happened many times before; coaches have made the decision (to resign) before the season ends," he told Triple M. "It is not as though it is groundbreaking.
"It hasn't been discussed. (Danny) knows his circumstances. We haven't performed well. That isn't hard to work out, but it certainly hasn't been a discussion point."
Miller said that while it seemed finals football was out of reach, players needed to realise they would be judged on their performances in the second half of the year.
"Players respond differently," he said. "Some are fighting for their footy lives. I, as one person who will be there next year, will be making that decision as well.
"They have got different varying reasons for their own pride to play well. They don't want to let (Danny) down.
"When a team is not performing there is a combination of factors. It is not just the players, not just the coaches, not just the administrators, it's a combination of things we have to do better and some of the players that played good footy this year haven't last year."
http://www.heraldsun.news.com.au/footy/common/story_page/0,8033,9894747%255E19742,00.html
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WHAT PRIDE!!!! There is not a skerrick of pride when Richmond play. I went... i sat in my seat till half time, then I had to remove myself for the safety of the kid in front of me who had to turn and look at me every friggin time Carlton got a goal(plus I didnt want him to see my look of utter resignation or the tear in my eye) >:(. I went and stood with foxhat and his mates, which made it a little better, but, being unable to drink and numb the pain I took my son and went home. I didn't think it would be right to leave my 13 yr old parked outside The Locker Room while his mum got herself lost in the warm smoky surrounds and wrapped herself in a few bourbons :(
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Well Caro has just said on 3AW that she stands by her story (what a surprise :o).
She also said (and I cannot remember the exact words but I did almost choke on the lovely snowball I was gutsing at the time :)) that somtimes when you have a story that's right to write it maybe wrong.
Huh.......?
Yeah nah I know what you mean I think :P :-[ :o
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One of his strengths at Richmond has been his development work with the younger players at the club.
The mark of any good coach is in being able to impart something to the players that can take them to the next stage in their development. And that has been our biggest downfall for years and perhaps the reason why our players never get to a level that is beyond mediocre, especially when compared to the rest of the competition.
Our players stagnate at or about their 4th or 5th year and never progress thereafter. Instead, they play for ten years as though they are in the 4th or 5th year of their development.