One-Eyed Richmond Forum
Football => Richmond Rant => Topic started by: one-eyed on July 12, 2020, 06:52:36 PM
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Dimma took aim at opposition tactics. He said it was 'a horrendous game of footy' but there wasn't much he could do in the coaches box when the opposition is flooding back trying to stop scoring with all their players inside our forward 50.
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The Sydney way :thumbsdown
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Spot on.
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Better ball movement.
Better inside fifty entries.
Increased pressure on the ball carrier.
Forward fifty pressure so force the opposition on turnovers.
It’s only all the things we’ve done in the last three years that has brought us success.
I’m not sure why we are so far away from anything resembling it.
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Excuses excuses - couldn't score against a shyte team a man down who is also their best mid for most of the game... :shh
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Lynch and jack barely took a mark, the feed was terrible, the crumbers were non existent and the few chances we got we rooted.
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Stringing more than three possessions together in a chain might help. Think we have executed about twice this season. At one stage today Dusty with no pressure couldn't nail a two metre handpass and we were immediately under the pump. These guys get paid the big bucks and train and practice the game endlessly but still can't execute basic skills, Dusty is a superstar so I guess he gets scrutinized more than others but this issue is across the board at the moment, frustrating to watch at times.
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'Farcical': Hardwick blames Swans after 'horrendous game of football'
Daniel Cherny, Andrew Wu
The Age
13 July 2020
Richmond coach Damien Hardwick has taken a thinly-veiled swipe at Sydney counterpart John Longmire for tactics that contributed to Sunday’s “horrendous game of football” at the Gabba.
The Tigers’ 4.10 (34) to 3.8 (26) victory made for the lowest aggregate total in an AFL game since the Brisbane Bears beat Footscray at a boggy Whitten Oval in round 16, 1996.
While wet conditions in Brisbane and shorter quarters contributed to Sunday’s low scores, Hardwick apportioned responsibility for the scrap in the direction of his fellow premiership coach, adding that if games continue to be played in such a manner it is “absolutely” a concern.
“It was a horrendous game of football,” Hardwick said.
“There’s no doubt about that. It was hard to watch, it was hard to play, it was incredibly frustrating. Unfortunately it’s sometimes how games pan out. You have a lot of players in one D50, they can’t get out and we can’t score. I think we had 50 odd inside 50s for what was it, four or five goals. Which is farcical in nature really. Horrible game of football.”
Longmire said the Swans did not deploy an extra player in defence. Callum Mills was able to repeatedly clean up in defence, finishing with a game-high 29 possessions.
"We kept our six defenders, they had an extra up at the ball. Our six defenders played behind the ball. We didn't have seven defenders," Longmire said.
"We didn't go with them, which is what they often want up around the footy. We held our structure and needed to punch through a bit quicker when we got opportunities as well."
But Hardwick disagreed with that assessment.
“We just couldn’t execute to use our spare as well as theirs,” Hardwick said.
“The fact of the matter is the spare’s down there. The ball was played in our half. I think it was 29 forward half turnovers to nine. It was down there for the vast majority of the game.
“I didn’t think we were much chance of scoring, but they were no chance of scoring. I think they got two goals from 50-metre penalties but outside that they kicked one goal for the game.
“There’s not much I can do. We’re attacking, we’ve got 75,000 people in our forward 50. It’s pretty hard. It’s become a tactic in the AFL. stuff mentality is really keeping sides in games.”
Richmond ruckman Ivan Soldo said that while the game was ugly, it had been a rewarding performance for the undermanned Tigers.
“It was more of a grind. It was a good win. Those are the wins you enjoy, the ones where it was more of a grind,” Soldo said.
Hardwick added that the Tigers could regain defender David Astbury (knee) for next Saturday night’s match against North Melbourne at Metricon Stadium but that Trent Cotchin (hamstring) was at least another week away from returning.
Soldo said the Tigers' depth would be able to cope should the AFL opt to condense matches in the coming weeks.
"It's nothing that we're not ready for," he said.
"It's out of control, it's something we've got to accept."
https://www.theage.com.au/sport/afl/stuff-blames-swans-after-horrendous-game-of-football-20200712-p55be6.html
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Stringing more than three possessions together in a chain might help. Think we have executed about twice this season. At one stage today Dusty with no pressure couldn't nail a two metre handpass and we were immediately under the pump. These guys get paid the big bucks and train and practice the game endlessly but still can't execute basic skills, Dusty is a superstar so I guess he gets scrutinized more than others but this issue is across the board at the moment, frustrating to watch at times.
:clapping
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We are currently last for inside 50 tackles. :banghead
That means that even Melbourne is doing better than us in one of our most important stats.
If we aren’t prepared to make pressure a priority, especially inside f50 we are kidding ourselves.
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We are currently last for inside 50 tackles. :banghead
That means that even Melbourne is doing better than us in one of our most important stats.
If we aren’t prepared to make pressure a priority, especially inside f50 we are kidding ourselves.
Yep. This is the biggest issue we are facing right now.
Our defence is fine and our depleted midfield held up ok on the weekend.
Our forward line sucks right now.
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Might help if our forwards stay home if opposition back 6 are going to maintain their shape, we have extras at the contest and bomb the ball into the 50 only to allow oppo to mark or clean up without pressure. All opposition teams will do this to us now so we need to plan around beating this poo style, a start would be to get our forwards to also hold and back us in to win the contest. Cant keep allowing the same thing to happen again, it was Mills yesterday, hawthorn did exactly the same thing to us but had some forwards to beat us, we got sucked too far up the ground
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I don't quite get why we aren't prepared to go man on man inside 50 if need be. At least it's a 50/50 each time and ideally we hold it in there for a bit longer and create a stoppage at worst. The problem with Lynch in there is he is a witches hat at the best of times so if we don't man up opposition defenders then they will continue to just stroll the ball out without any pressure.
I know we like to create space in the forward 50 but if the opposition are going to do what the Swans did then you quickly adapt accordingly not stubbornly do the same thing and say the opposition are trying to stop us scoring, isn't that the point, we have to find another way it's that simple.
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'Unnecessary and unwarranted': Longmire hits back at Hardwick
Vince Rugari
The Age
13 July 2020
John Longmire has fired back at Richmond coach Damien Hardwick's comments about Sydney's tactics, saying they were "unnecessary", "unwarranted" and bucked the convention of collegiality between coaches.
Longmire's rebuke came as he confirmed Swans star Isaac Heeney would miss the rest of the season after undergoing ankle surgery on Monday. Co-captain Josh Kennedy will miss up to two months due to a medial ligament injury.
Those injuries were contributing factors, Longmire said, to what was the lowest-scoring match in the AFL since 1996 on Sunday as the Swans fell by eight points to the Tigers in rainy conditions at the Gabba.
He dismissed Hardwick's suggestions that Sydney's use of a spare defender made the aesthetics of the match "horrendous" and "farcical in nature".
Longmire said Hardwick called him immediately after his press conference to apologise but the damage was done.
"The comments after the game from Damien were completely unnecessary and unwarranted. They just weren't correct," Longmire said.
"We didn't play an extra defender, Richmond bring a player up around the ball and have been doing it for a long time. We just held our six defenders in place.
"If Damien didn't want to do that, he could have brought his forward back in and just played 6-6-6 and the issue would have been done.
"I'm not sure it's my role to walk up to Damien's coaches box, knock on the door and say 'what would you like us to do?' That's how it happened."
Longmire said he was disappointed Hardwick and other AFL coaches had begun making public comments about other teams.
"I thought that coaches were really collegiate and I was hoping that would still be the case, but we've got to be careful, I reckon, as an industry that we don't drop into this habit of potting other people and finger-pointing," he said.
"It's a bit of a challenging time for all of us and I just think we need to take a deep breath and help each other through this.
"Clearly we want to score more than three goals. There's a few things at play here.
"Damien called me straight after the game, apologised for the comments, which is appreciated, but as I said to Damien, they're out there. Now you've got to have a press conference and talk about it."
https://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/sport/afl/unnecessary-and-unwarranted-longmire-hits-back-at-hardwick-as-heeney-ruled-out-for-season-20200713-p55bma.html?ref=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_source=rss_feed
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Fair enough Horse - Dimma just sour grapes that his team were woeful all day.
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Longmire should be charged with bringing the game into disrepute
Poo truck side
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Longmire entitled to do what he wants Dimma and his coaching group need to combat it not whinge and moan won't be the last time this happens.He hasn't dealed with flooding in our games well.
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How about Dimma teach the forwards how to lay a tackle again as it seems they have forgotten.
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I'd have asked Short to just kick them from 50+
Avoid going F50 altogether. They were clearly flooding and it was gross to watch.
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Bring back Ben Griffiths and launch it from 70
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I can't copy and paste it from my phone but Kane Cornes has taken a dig at Dimma today over this.
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^
Mr irrelevant
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:lol
'Out of line' Dimma apologises to Horse after Mrs Hardwick backlash
By Riley Beveridge
AN UNCEREMONIOUS "dressing down" from Mrs Hardwick was the motivation behind Damien Hardwick picking up the phone to apologise to John Longmire this week, with the Richmond coach labelling his own post-game comments from last Sunday as "out of line".
Hardwick complained of overly defensive tactics from Longmire in Richmond's dour 4.10 (34) to 3.8 (26) victory at the SCG, suggesting Sydney had stacked "75,000 people" in its backline to ensure the reigning premiers couldn't score in the wet conditions.
Longmire refuted those comments earlier this week, saying his Tigers counterpart's claims were "completely unnecessary and unwarranted" before branding them as "just not correct".
It has since led to Hardwick calling Longmire in order to apologise for his post-match outburst, with the Richmond coach saying he got caught up in the moment after a frustrating game.
"It was a shocker on my behalf," Hardwick said.
"It was out of line. I was probably frustrated and let the situation get the better of me.
"I called up 'Horse' and apologised. It was out of line on my behalf, so we had a good conversation and we moved on pretty quickly. I'll just worry about what I can control and continue to do that.
"(Mrs Hardwick) wasn't overly happy with the press conference. She gave me a dressing down after it. That was a good result." ....
https://www.afl.com.au/news/465510/-out-of-line-dimma-apologises-to-horse-after-mrs-hardwick-backlash
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Longmire and the Swans are still a stuffinglingus side and have been for a decade playing that garbage
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The Swans did park the bus in our forward line but we were dumb continually bombing the ball inside F50 to them rather than lowering the eyes.
Dimma & the team better learn quickly from it because Norf always play that crap against us.
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The Swans did park the bus in our forward line but we were dumb continually bombing the ball inside F50 to them rather than lowering the eyes.
Dimma & the team better learn quickly from it because Norf always play that crap against us.
It's the obvious answer.. lower the eyes. But watching the game, many times there were no leads, the forward line was so stagnant. It's like we are used to just bombing it in and hoping for a mark, or to get the crumbs and lock it in. Which has worked for us tremendously over the past few years. But when there is no fwd50 pressure this strategy fails miserably.
Also our movement at times was so slow it allowed Swans players to get back and fill in the holes which meant lowering the eyes would have done nothing really.
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https://www.theage.com.au/sport/afl/ugly-footy-how-to-beat-the-scourge-of-the-spare-man-20200716-p55crh.html
brandon jacks 2c on what the tiges did wromg.
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Surprise he actually found the time to fit in a footy article in between all his social justice essays.... :shh
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‘Terrible tirade’: Hardwick reveals huge Longmire spray after ‘s****y, out of line’ press conference
July 22, 2020 9:29am
BEN WATERWORTh
A cheeky Damien Hardwick says he copped a “terrible dressing down” from John Longmire after the Richmond coach’s veiled swipe at his Sydney counterpart following the two teams’ dour Round 6 clash.
After just seven goals were kicked in the Tigers’ 34-26 victory over the Swans in Brisbane, Hardwick post-game lamented Longmire’s defensive set-up, suggesting Sydney had stacked “75,000 people” in its backline and claiming it led to a “horrendous game of football”.
Longmire then refuted those comments, saying Hardwick’s claims were “completely unnecessary and unwarranted” before branding them as “just not correct”.
Hardwick last week revealed he’d called Longmire to apologise.
But speaking to SEN Breakfast on Wednesday morning, Hardwick revealed Longmire’s fiery mood.
“Horse gave me a terrible dressing down when I wrote to him, the big fella,” he told SEN Breakfast.
“I was actually really disappointed, because I love Horse. As soon as I see him, he’s just one of those guys I’ve always been drawn too.
“I just had a crap press conference and I was crappy and a little bit sh*tty.
“I said something that was out of line — and to be honest it was what Horse said. It wasn’t really the answer, it was just me being frustrated. We weren’t playing well and just kicking into ridiculous spots.
“I just lashed out and unfortunately Horse was on the end of it.
“But then I was on the end of a terrible tirade at the other end when I rang him to apologise. He’s a great man, I love him.”
Asked to describe the ferocity of Longmire’s bake, Hardwick cheekily said: “Horse can give a good cook, he can. I deserved it, I’m telling you.”
“Sorry, Mr Horse.”
The Tigers were able to bounce back six days later, kicking 11 goals to record a 54-point win over North Melbourne at Metricon Stadium.
SEN Breakfast co-host Tim Watson asked if Hardwick had approached Kangaroos coach Rhyce Shaw pre-game and asked what sort of footy he wanted him to play.
“Shut up, Tim!” Hardwick, with a laugh, replied.
https://www.stuff-vs-john-longmire-press-conference-video/news-story/8970c309a3896ce8a0e3c72752c51550
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Wish he'd stop backpedaling.
Swans played a boring and cowardly game against us.
Just call it out. If people hate the way the game looks - this is why!
WGAF what 'Horse' thinks...?