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Title: Grimes & Vlastuin fined for staging
Post by: one-eyed on August 23, 2020, 07:00:19 PM
According to Tom Browne on 7news.
Title: Re: Grimes & Vlastuin fined for staging
Post by: Knighter on August 23, 2020, 07:27:23 PM
SHocking and Christian can stuff right off. I’m just about done with this game.
Title: Re: Grimes & Vlastuin fined for staging
Post by: WilliamPowell on August 23, 2020, 07:51:14 PM
MRO needs to be replaced

He is too heavily influenced by the media

The Vlastuin one is just blatantly wrong :banghead
Title: Re: Grimes & Vlastuin fined for staging
Post by: The Machine on August 23, 2020, 08:01:14 PM
Hawkins did the same thing as Grimes in his game today. Let's see :whistle
Title: Re: Grimes & Vlastuin fined for staging
Post by: The Machine on August 23, 2020, 08:02:06 PM
MRO needs to be replaced

He is too heavily influenced by the media

The Vlastuin one is just blatantly wrong :banghead


Correct- Vlastuin was clipped across the shoulder and head.
Title: Re: Grimes & Vlastuin fined for staging
Post by: DCrane on August 23, 2020, 09:00:24 PM
Vlastuin exaggerated it, I don't think you can deny that, there was high contact, which was minor, and perhaps Nick was unsure whether the umpire was on the right side. The problem is this a regular occurrence, which happens to varying degrees, and this goes in the minor category because he actually received high contact, not like Tom Papley who shot up into the air like Surgei Bubka after a slight push to the hip
Title: Re: Grimes & Vlastuin fined for staging
Post by: Rampsation on August 23, 2020, 11:23:52 PM
I would appeal Vlastuins
Title: Re: Grimes & Vlastuin fined for staging
Post by: Knighter on August 24, 2020, 10:10:04 AM
Don’t worry about appealing just expose the boys club corruption
Title: Re: Grimes & Vlastuin fined for staging
Post by: mightytiges on August 24, 2020, 10:45:07 PM
Lloyd on Footy Classifield showed 4 examples of staging in recent weeks and two were our opponents - Port's Woodcock who just swandived with hardly a nearby Tiger touching him & Rankine in our game against the Suns laughing as he got up for conning the ump.

Hello MRO where were you? :rolleyes   
Title: Re: Grimes & Vlastuin fined for staging
Post by: taztiger4 on August 25, 2020, 12:51:20 PM
We are challenging both staging charges
Title: Re: Grimes & Vlastuin fined for staging
Post by: Tiger Khosh on August 25, 2020, 01:33:58 PM
This is the argument used by the AFL in Toms hearing last night:

“The image shows Hurley throws his head back and immediately clutches for his throat. The immediate response was spontaneous, if there was no contact to his throat it suggests it was a somewhat miraculous piece of quick thinking. He had a millisecond.”

Now if that’s the argument the AFL has used to describe that incident doesn’t the exact same thing apply in vlastuins case? Geez the AFL bring the criticism on themselves.
Title: Re: Grimes & Vlastuin fined for staging
Post by: Diocletian on August 25, 2020, 03:21:59 PM
Absolute joke if Christian keeps his job beyond this year.... :shh
Title: Re: Grimes & Vlastuin fined for staging
Post by: Knighter on August 25, 2020, 04:28:57 PM
The disgusting Bomber supporter that sent the threats to Grimes via social media has been arrested.  Good news
Title: Re: Grimes & Vlastuin fined for staging
Post by: Diocletian on August 25, 2020, 04:47:50 PM

 disgusting Bomber supporter

Redundant phrase... :shh
Title: Re: Grimes & Vlastuin fined for staging
Post by: one-eyed on August 25, 2020, 05:49:48 PM
Our appeal tonight is a written submission according to Ch10.
Title: Re: Grimes & Vlastuin fined for staging
Post by: one-eyed on August 25, 2020, 06:56:48 PM
Won't know the result of the appeal until tomorrow given it is a written submission.

Richmond believes the behind the goal vision will exonerate both Grimes & Vlastuin.

source: Mark Stevens Ch7 news.
Title: Re: Grimes & Vlastuin fined for staging
Post by: big tone on August 25, 2020, 08:05:47 PM
If they get off, do they get an apology from the MRO/AFL?

Pretty average allegation for 2 very tough and courageous footballers IMO
Title: Re: Grimes & Vlastuin fined for staging
Post by: Tiger Khosh on August 25, 2020, 08:28:06 PM
It really depends on how they define staging. Both free kicks were there imo. You see stringer with his hand in grimes back push off and you see Bellchambers flinging arm connect with vlastuin high.

In vlastuin case I don’t think it’s an unnatural reaction to fling your head back when a 100kg object connects with you moving in the opposite direction.

In grimes case while it looked like a fair bit of mayo on there I don’t know how you can prove it one way or the other.
Title: Re: Grimes & Vlastuin fined for staging
Post by: Diocletian on August 26, 2020, 11:07:27 AM
Sanity prevails...

https://twitter.com/cleary_mitch/status/1298420035363381249

 :gotigers
Title: Re: Grimes & Vlastuin fined for staging
Post by: WilliamPowell on August 26, 2020, 11:51:40 AM
Both been cleared

https://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/801534/grimes-vlastuin-win-tribunal-appeals

And with that I'd suggest Hocking relieve the MRO of his duties immediately

And after that Gil relieve Hocking of his
Title: Re: Grimes & Vlastuin fined for staging
Post by: Knighter on August 26, 2020, 12:22:03 PM
Both been cleared

https://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/801534/grimes-vlastuin-win-tribunal-appeals

And with that I'd suggest Hocking relieve the MRO of his duties immediately

And after that Gil relieve Hocking of his

This should happen today - what that proves is that Shocking just goes with what the media vibe is on the day.  Not professional enough to actually investigate it properly.  He should be the first one out the door with the restructure.  Only problem is that Brad Scott is the flog likely to replace him
Title: Re: Grimes & Vlastuin fined for staging
Post by: Gracie on August 26, 2020, 01:55:51 PM
Both been cleared

https://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/801534/grimes-vlastuin-win-tribunal-appeals

And with that I'd suggest Hocking relieve the MRO of his duties immediately

And after that Gil relieve Hocking of his

This should happen today - what that proves is that Shocking just goes with what the media vibe is on the day.  Not professional enough to actually investigate it properly.  He should be the first one out the door with the restructure.  Only problem is that Brad Scott is the flog likely to replace him

They moved Brad Scott to AFLVictoria main man in the latest restructure
Title: Re: Grimes & Vlastuin fined for staging
Post by: one-eyed on August 26, 2020, 01:57:36 PM
I can't post it from my phone but Wayne Henwood's clear explanation for why Floss' case wasn't staging was excellent. 
Title: Re: Grimes & Vlastuin fined for staging
Post by: one-eyed on August 26, 2020, 11:31:11 PM
Caro wondered who got into Christen's ear and whether he had the down the ground vision before making his decision. Sam McClure replied that would be Hocking as he ticks off all the MRO decisions. Caro then said Hocking should be the MRO if that is happening.
Title: Re: Grimes & Vlastuin fined for staging
Post by: Knighter on August 27, 2020, 12:30:22 PM
Caro wondered who got into Christen's ear and whether he had the down the ground vision before making his decision. Sam McClure replied that would be Hocking as he ticks off all the MRO decisions. Caro then said Hocking should be the MRO if that is happening.

Of course it was Shocking.  Shocking would have reacted to the media criticism without investigating it properly and told Christen to come down hard.  Shocking needs to go.  Football as a whole has gone backwards under him and fairly significantly.  Fans are less engaged, players are over the intense scrunity, media are allowed to run around unchecked, umpiring is worse, the MRO is a joke, clubs are more reliant on handouts than ever and GWS and GC are no closer to success despite being given millions of dollars in handouts and the best players for close to 10 years now.
Title: Re: Grimes & Vlastuin fined for staging
Post by: camboon on August 27, 2020, 12:49:26 PM
Christensen and Hocking are clearly biased and should be replaced. I bet Geelong or Collingwood don’t get the same crap as us