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Round 17
Geelong v RICHMOND
Friday, September 11 @ Metricon Stadium.
Start time: 7.50pm AEST
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The Tigers have a nine-day break before they face Geelong in a huge match at Metricon Stadium on September 11.
Chris Scott's team have won five straight and are also unbeaten in Queensland in 2020, with four wins from four matches in the state.
After battling past a resolute Dockers in a performance that Hardwick himself admitted was below standard, the two-time premiership-winning coach knows their next game will be a pre-finals test.
"They're a terrific side, there's no doubt about it," Hardwick said.
"The form side of the competition, haven't lost for a long period of time.
"They're well coached, well drilled and they operate incredibly efficiently so we're going to have our work cut out no doubt."
https://7news.com.au/sport/afl/tigers-the-afl-hub-masters-in-queensland-c-1287901
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Game of the year
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No excuses
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Geez Scott's personal Grand Final
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Hottest tickets around. Scrapped in by the skin of my teeth. Word is it’s sold out (COVID wise)
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Geelong v Richmond: 10 reasons why Cats are purring, but Tigers can't be counted out
Last year if you asked which Tiger or Cats small or medium-sized forward was the most dangerous you might have chosen three or four Tigers. Now he's a ...
Paywall: https://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/the-10-reasons-geelong-is-better-placed-to-beat-richmond-and-the-why-the-tigers-will-still-back-themselves-in/news-story/5057c6a2970d6a3573657361934f7050
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Cats a top test for Tigers
AFL media
9 September 2020
Richmond will need to bring its best form in order to overcome Geelong on Friday night, according to coach Damien Hardwick.
“They’re a really good side. They’re really well coached, they operate efficiently. Defensively, they’re very, very strong,” Hardwick said.
“We look at the way they play, time in possession’s a big one for them.
“Basically, the game’s going to come down to control versus chaos . . . Geelong very much a control side, we’re sort of a chaos side . . .
“It’s two good sides that are going to have a fair dinkum crack at each other.
“We feel our very best is good enough, but there’s no doubt Geelong would feel exactly the same. So, it’s going to be a great test.
“They’re in terrific form. You’ve only got to look at their game versus the Bombers (last Sunday) to see how damaging they can be.
“But we think at our very best we’ll challenge them, there’s no doubt about that.
“All we can ask is that we play our best footy. Sometimes the scoreboard won’t go our way, but as long as we play the Richmond way, we think we’re a fair chance.”
https://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/809995/cats-a-top-test-for-tigers
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Ross Lyon's preview of Friday night's game on Footy Classified last night:
Lyon looked back at last year's Preliminary Final and said Geelong had no Hawkins & Duncan that night and should have been 40 points up at half-time as they missed shots. With Hawkins & Duncan back this year plus the improvement of other Cats this season, the Tigers missing Edwards & Lambert would be nervous.
Stat rankings comparison:
Tigers Cats
Disposals #12 #2
Kicks for #14 #1
Kicks against #13 #1
Play on % #3 #16
Inside 50s #1 #6
Goals #4 #1
Pressure factor in 2020:
Richmond 185 ranked #9
Geelong 193 ranked #1 (best since 2013)
Key Match-up:
Hawkins vs Balta (or Grimes).
Richmond needs to apply pressure up the ground otherwise Hawkins could kick a bag.
Midfield battle:
Martin Dangerfield
Cotchin Selwood
Guthrie Lambert
Parfitt Bolton
Duncan Pickett
Menegola McIntosh (on the wing)
Odds:
Geelong is favourite with the bookies [Pointsbet]:
Richmond $2.10
Geelong $1.75
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Could have should have from Ross.Bit rich saying that eventually premier if anything cats choked.
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Richmond's next huge obstacle in a year of isolation: Hulk Hawkins
By Jake Niall
The Age
September 11, 2020
For Richmond, the hurdles have kept coming: injury and fatherhood-forced absences, the media's alleged denigration of Tom Lynch, dramas surrounding the Cotchins and, not least, two players landing in strife outside a strip club at 3.30am in Surfers Paradise.
On Friday night at Metricon Stadium, a quick Uber ride from the scene of the kebab kerfuffle, the Tigers face more conventional obstacles - the game's immovable object Tom Hawkins and the irresistible force of Geelong.
Hawkins has been the AFL's best key forward by a considerable margin this year. At 32, he's never performed better; twice in this reduced, low-scoring season his goal tallies have exceeded the opposition, as when be booted six goals to Port Adelaide's four and five goals to St Kilda's four.
This time, the task of grappling with Hulk Hawkins and his 198cm, 100-plus kilogram frame will fall to Noah Balta in his 25th game. Just as Geelong represents the sternest test of the Tigers, Hawkins will be a measure of Balta's progress as the replacement for Tomahawk's longstanding opponent, Alex Rance.
Assuming the Tigers play as selected, Balta will be backed up by Richmond's premier defender Dylan Grimes. If the Gold Coast weather is likewise as forecast, then Balta might also be assisted by a slippery ball, when he seeks to bring the ball to ground and then use his superior speed and athleticism against the AFL's only forward with Tony Lockett-like traits.
Stopping Hawkins from getting the ball when it's kicked to him has proven beyond most defenders and defences this year.
Geelong has kicked the footy to Hawkins one-out 65 times this season, the fourth most in the competition.
More ominous for Balta and indeed all the lighter-bodied full-backs who line up on Hawkins in the outcome of the 65 contests without a helping hand or fist: Hawkins won 29 of them, outmarking the defender 22 times and beating his man on the deck on a further seven occasions - his ground play for such a large man surprisingly effective; he leads the league in goals, goal assists for key forwards and is rated by Champion Data about 30 percent ahead of the next best big forward, Charlie Dixon.
When the Sherrin has been kicked to Hawkins within the forward 50m arc, the upshot has been as follows: he's marked it 14 out of 40 times, and been out-marked just twice. All told, Tomahawk has been out-marked only three times from those 65 contests.
In a time of isolation and restrictions of one only one other for company, Geelong has managed exactly that - the Cats have been expert in getting, not just Hawkins, but their superstar Patrick Dangerfield, plus Gary Rohan and others to be isolated, one-out, without the opposition's extra defender getting in the way.
It's a credit to Geelong's method that, in a congested game, they have managed to put Hawkins in dangerous positions and maximise his strengths, almost otherwise extinct in a game whose youngish key forwards - the King brothers, Jeremy Cameron, Matt Taberner - are rangy athletes.
"Tom is in really good form so if given isolation he is a pretty hard player to stop,'' said Geelong coach Chris Scott on Thursday.
"I think the credit should go to Tom, the way he has prepared himself and the form he is in so hopefully the team is helping him a little bit, hopefully the coaches are helping him a little bit but the majority of it is just the way he has prepared himself and the way he has committed to prioritising his strengths.''
If Hawkins' size and capacity to outbody opponents is a point of difference (only Dixon really plays similarly), the Tigers cannot simply rely on slowing the Geelong ball movement either, as teams typically strive to in these defensively-dominant times.
Geelong, as opposition clubs know, have more than one gear. They can play fast and chaotic, as Tigers do, or deliberate, picking holes with carefully-constructed leads to a forward.
Scott confirms that "moving it quick'' isn't Geelong's modus operandi. "It is not the way we play and we are not playing better because we are moving the ball really fast all of a sudden.''
Scott says the Cats will need to be "firing on all cylinders to beat Richmond'' and that Balta and Nathan Broad, another helper in defence, will be important.
"They depend on them and we depend on Tom so I think that is going to be a significant part of the game.''
https://www.theage.com.au/sport/afl/richmond-s-next-huge-obstacle-in-a-year-of-isolation-hulk-hawkins-20200910-p55uig.html
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We got to pay our natural game have a good start.Media making it cats a some super team dogs had them on toast with similar game style of ours fast quick furious footy and alot of pressure on the ball carrier and good ball delivery into the forward 50 not allowing there defence to sweep it up.We got take advantage of the ruck and win our fair share of clearances and hard ball.Bring the heat on them we do that the best like no other team and they struggle with it so our forwards a super important.
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No late changes. Teams as selected.
Dry and 15 degrees @ Metricon.
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We need to bring the pressure & intensity from the start especially in the guts as we did against the Eagles and then make the most of our F50 entries on the scoreboard. The latter is still something we need to work on and improve.
:gotigers
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Rohan out.
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Didn't like that by Bolton
Needed to take first option
First inside 50 would have sent a message
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High on Floss?
Can someone go and retrieve Vlastuin's head from the Red Rooster down the road please
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Lol Dusty beat 5 cats.
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Hawkins having a sook :lol
Didn't take long
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Can we stop kicking it to Cat defenders? :banghead
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Umps off to a flyer tonight re consistency.
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Umps off to a flyer tonight re consistency.
Yep
Jack gets our first
7-1
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Jack snap goal.
7 - 1
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Poor miss by lynch
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Well done Pickett.
Bad miss Lynch.
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Wasting pur opportunities at the moment
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Poor options in f50
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Still not one free :rolleyes
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Apparently we have no heads tonight!
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Rioli goal on the siren :gotigers
1/4 time
Richmond 2.5-17
Geelong 0.3-3
Goals: Jack, Rioli
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Pressure good. Controlled the general play. Wasted chances though with poor options or execution.
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geez McIvaney makes me sick the way he drools over Geelong.
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:banghead
Poor to allow it out the back.
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#FreekickGeelong
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How is that not high on Cotch?
no HTB either?
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Lynch goal :gotigers
23 - 10
needed that steadier.
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Good goal to Lynch
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These umps are a joke.
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Soldo possible knee
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Bruce McIvaney is barracking for Geelong ‘hopefully they get another chance to score’... WTF!
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Any chance of a free kick?
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Soldo injured. Outside of left knee buckled on contact. Medial?
I hope that kebab was worth it CCJ.
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1/2 time
Richmond 2.5 3.5-23
Geelong 0.3 1.4-10
Goals: Jack, Lynch, Rioli
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Rioli way to slow to move the footy on- we had a one on one forward in that last one.
At least he is getting his hands on it I guess. But FM kick the footy.
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Hawkins is allowed to push in the back every single time??
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Get Chol ready
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Umpiring has be a disgrace
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Rioli way to slow to move the footy on- we had a one on one forward in that last one.
At least he is getting his hands on it I guess. But FM kick the footy.
For some reason he’s been a momentum killer at times. I’m not sure what has brought this into his game but he’s been doing this for two years now.
Very very frustrating.
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Hawkins is allowed to push in the back every single time??
I’ve counted 3
I don’t know what the ump is looking at.
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Is there a breeze to the TV left end? Seems to be carrying longer to the left.
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Grimes has been immense. Whole backline has stood so far.
Forward entries have been ordinary. Disconnect b/w mids & forwards with that kick just outside f50.
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:banghead
Shocking miss
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What the ... Lynch? :Facepalm
:facepalm
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Wasting chances :banghead
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We should be 8.3 not 3.8 :banghead
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These umpires are inventing stuff to keep the cats in it tonight
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Really disappointing effort by Vlastuin there
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:banghead
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3.10 :P
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Frees 7-14
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Nank thriving being the solo ruckman
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Jack goal
34 - 11
Finally!
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Jack stuff ups
Cotch butchers another shot at goal
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Lynch hammy as well.
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Seriously, this game should be over
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Jack great pack mark.
and goal :gotigers
42 - 11
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Dusty killing it this qtr.
George poster.
should be 10 goals up!
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Would have been close to the perfect quarter if we had kicked straight
Grimes simply outstanding
And that was a typical Dusty quarter
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3 qtr time
Rich 5.13 - 43
Feel 1.5.11
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3/4 time
Richmond 2.5 3.5 5.13-43
Geelong 0.3 1.4 1.5-11
Goals: Jack 3, Lynch, Rioli
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Grimes, Nank, Jack & Dusty fantastic.
Pickett good too. Liked his chasing & desperation.
Only neg is our bad goalkicking :banghead. Kept them in the game when we should be 10 goals plus up
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Can't stop now Tigers
Crush them
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:banghead
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:scream
Letting them back in :banghead
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:banghead :scream :banghead :scream :banghead :scream
Really poor option by Grimes
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We're two down on the bench and it looks like it. Just stopped.
Panicking.
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HTB doesn't exist?
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Mrakov panicked big time there
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George :bow
Nails it
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George actually kicked one lol
51 - 30
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Dusty :banghead
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Pickett has been good
But...
He has to learn tackle don't bump
Brilliant by Baker
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Jack 4th
57 - 30
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Meyers from the Cats is ...er.... ummm... soft
Pulls out of alot of contests
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Great win!
Top 4 :clapping
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:gotigers
Final score
Richmond 2.5 3.5 5.13 7.15-57
Geelong 0.3 1.4 1.5 4.7-31
Goals: Riewoldt 4, Lynch, Rioli, Castagna
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4 points and a good win.
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Unbelievable win tonight! 2 players down is a massive disadvantage however our players just play the system, our system! So happy we beat these flogs and not even at our best. Hawkins pushes and pushes his opponent in every game i see him play but never give away a free kick... why?
All players played a fantastic game tonight!!
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F
You
Geelol, fat arse Hawkins and Dangerflop.
You effing flat track bullies.
And F You all those dishonourable umpires and commentators using Scott's willy for a microphone tonight.
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Spot on!
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Danger who?
Hawk who?
Love love loved it.
What a team, what a group, overcome adversity and stamped their imprimtur on the competition,
7 nt doubled redoubled vulnerable
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Champion football team.
Vs Prima Donna’s who crumbled like a termite mound in a cyclone.
Led by Tommy Hawkins. Looked lost and back to his underachieving best
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Hope Lynch’s hamstring is minor
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Our best player was our system. We adhere to it and it works especially against those teams that like to control the footy.
If a team plays like us then it’s on like donkey kong and whoever does it best wins.
Currently we do it best.
I don’t normally pot the umps but we had the raw end of the deal this game.
Grimes clearly our best. Dusty just starting to warm up nicely.
Our forward pressure was a positive.
Our fifty entries were better but still a lot of room for improvement especially our domination in the third we could of put the game to bed.
Anyway I am really stoked with this win.
:gotigers
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Just like the west coast win this was a total domination. Completely took away the opponents game style and had it on our terms. Just a supreme team performance.
Feel for soldo. I know he isn’t everyone’s cup of tea but he’s a real goer and puts his body on the line for our club every week. Think we’ll see nank thrive again doing 80% of the ruck work. Path is clear for chol now with no other competition. Just needs to play his role and contribute or the coaches might consider going back to our small ball routine with only 1 ruck.
Hopefully Lynch’s hammy is on the minor end. :gotigers
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^
Yep, a goal and a handful of hitouts will see him keep him spot.
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Apparently, Geelong's score tonight was their lowest in history against us and that includes the VFA days.
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Apparently, Geelong's score tonight was their lowest in history against us and that includes the VFA days.
A lot of these types of records are happening this year
16 min quarters
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Team Stats:
Disposals: 273 - 305 ….. ( contested: 103 - 116 ; uncontested: 167 - 191 )
Efficiency%: 71 - 72
Turnovers: 55 - 67
Clearances: 16 - 32 …… ( centre: 2 - 10 ; stoppages: 14 - 22 )
Inside 50s: 42 - 40
Efficiency In50%: 50 - 30
Marks: 73 - 111 …. ( contested: 11 - 15 )
Marks In50: 14 - 7
Tackles: 49 - 43
Tackles In50: 7 - 5
Hitouts: 23 - 20 …. ( Nank 16, Soldo 7 )
Bounces: 17 - 5
One %ers: 38 - 36
Free kicks: 11 - 17 (http://oneeyed-richmond.com/forum/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif)
Individual possessions:
Martin 19
Bolton 18
Baker 17
Grimes 16
Short 16
Cotchin 15
Graham 15
Floss 15
Rioli 14
Kmac 13
Ross 13
Lambo 12
Nank 12
George 11
Markov 11
Houli 10
Pickett 10
Jack 10
Lynch 9
Balta 8
Aarts 7
Soldo 2
https://www.afl.com.au/matches/2875#player-stats
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What a remarkable performance it was last night. The way we play as a team and unit is just breathtaking!
We are doing so many things right and have done for years now, but how good is our development and our ability to instill belief? Look no further than Aarts and Markov. These guys are performing when many teams would have placed them on the scrapheap. Take Markov- how much stress and pressure would he have placed on himself this year? With no second league to play in and work your way into the team, he has finally got his body right which is allowing him to play his role in the best team at the highest level. The coaching group and people at the club seem to remove stress levels which in turn allows players to simply play- what a great method!
It is so enjoyable seeing our players continue to step up. Baker is another who many believed to be too small...this kid is a jet!!
Bring on next week :gotigers
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The moaning & groaning continues! Now the media are labeling it the worst game of the season & despairing the state of the game. Geelong kicking one goal in three quarters was too much for some of the journos .... stuff them!
If your team throttled the life out of a top four side to the point where they put up an all time low score you would say it was a brilliant exhibition of defensive football & label the winner as a massive force ... but no ... not when Richmond do it! When Richmond destroy a top four side we are guilty of bringing the game down, we cop the 'thou shalt not' treatment while Geelong get the sympathy vote with a moral victory point to boot.
Well, Geelong can have their moral victory, we'll have the very beautiful four points! :santa :gotigers
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Who's saying that? Not Wimpley again is it? :thumbsdown
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https://www.news.com.au/sport/afl/richmond-geelong-stinker-slammed-by-footy-commentators/news-story/c1a016d54a28ddec27f28905d9b27def
Oops, looks like we accidentally killed the game by being so dammed good! Obviously the media wanted a different result .... :'(
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We had 22 scoring shots, it was only inaccuracy which stopped us from putting up a big score. If Geelong couldn’t generate score, that’s their problem not ours.
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https://www.news.com.au/sport/afl/richmond-geelong-stinker-slammed-by-footy-commentators/news-story/c1a016d54a28ddec27f28905d9b27def
Oops, looks like we accidentally killed the game by being so dammed good! Obviously the media wanted a different result .... :'(
LMAO - the first "footy commentator" they quoted was Dave Hughes....they also quoted Titus O'Reilly and the Sportsbet twitter account... :shh
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Source: Fox Footy.
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And that is how one coach fists the other. Absolutely schooled Scotty
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LMAO - the first "footy commentator" they quoted was Dave Hughes....they also quoted Titus O'Reilly and the Sportsbet twitter account... :shh
Love Titus, long suffering Dees supporter, stamd ip comedian and owner of some of the best sarcastic tweets going around
His pots at the Dees are priceless
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Source: Fox Footy.
The supercoach
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Report Card: Round 17
Foxsports
14 September 2020
RICHMOND
The Tigers are kings at peaking at the right time of the year – and all signs point to Damien Hardwick‘s men again timing their run to give a third flag in four years a red-hot shake. It wasn’t the fact they beat a contender like Geelong by 26 points, it was how they did it, eliminating their biggest asset – they crowded Tom Hawkins’ forward line island and made it impossible for him to have a free run at the ball all night – and denying them any forward-half momentum to suffocate them. The Tigers are now in Position A to claim a top-four spot.
In the votes
Dylan Grimes was a major reason why the Cats were held to just one goal in the first three quarters of the game. In his season-best game, according to the AFL Player Ratings, Grimes finished with 16 disposals, 12 intercept possessions and five intercept marks. He had great defensive support from Nick Vlastuin and Liam Baker, while Noah Balta did a lot of the heavy lifting on Hawkins. At the other end, Jack Riewoldt roared into form and stood up in the injured Tom Lynch‘s absence, booting four goals from 10 disposals and six marks, while Dustin Martin was his side’s leading ball-winner with 19 disposals.
Room for improvement
As convincing as the win was, it could‘ve been a lot more comprehensive on the scoreboard, with the Tigers booting 7.15. During their third term surge where they had 15 inside 50s to Geelong’s six, the Tigers managed 2.8. It allowed the Cats to have a sniff of a comeback win in the final term. Still, the Tigers steadied late.
Grade
A+
https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/afl-report-card-round-17-2020-afl-analysis-every-club-graded-best-and-worst-players-best-on-ground-votes/news-story/812fb3a43ff2e54621cb6ea737dbf534
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Duncan not even sighted by the afl for high hit on Cotch lool.
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Duncan not even sighted by the afl for high hit on Cotch lool.
Surprised Cotchin didnt get fined for staging
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Duncan not even sighted by the afl for high hit on Cotch lool.
I’m not actually after Duncan here but if that’s not head high and at minimum a free kick I mustn’t know the rules. Duncan elected to bump and collected head high that is a free kick everyday of the week!
If it was the other way around then they would of replayed it over and over and over to try to make a bigger deal out of it than it was.
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Pathectic the media and afl yeah no issue with Duncan , but were is the consistency.
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Duncan not even sighted by the afl for high hit on Cotch lool.
$ 1000 fine. He did get cited.
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Cameron Mooney says loss to Tigers was not so bad for the Cats.
https://www.geelongadvertiser.com.au/news/opinion/cameron-mooney-says-loss-to-tigers-was-not-so-bad-for-cats/news-story/12c21cbddf815c360b058183ca217fcf
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Coaches votes (Hardwick & Scott)
Geelong v Richmond
9 Dylan Grimes (RICH)
9 Jack Riewoldt (RICH)
3 Nick Vlastuin (RICH)
3 Shai Bolton (RICH)
2 Jayden Short (RICH)
2 Toby Nankervis (RICH)
1 Mark Blicavs (GEEL)
1 Tom Stewart (GEEL)
https://www.afl.com.au/news/510787/coaches-votes-r17-tk-s-perfect-night-boak-closes-gap