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General => General Discussion => Topic started by: Ox on May 07, 2006, 03:08:43 PM
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Indigineous people better thank God they have Christine Anu because musically they have nothing.
Who was the large bloke singing with Rene.Absolute shocker.
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Indigineous people better thank God they have Christine Anu because musically they have nothing.
Who was the large bloke singing with Rene.Absolute shocker.
This is a disgraceful post. You should be ashamed of this racist rubbish.
What grounds do you have to claim he was an alcoholic?
Was it because he was black?
Shame shame shame
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Indigineous people better thank God they have Christine Anu because musically they have nothing.
Who was the large bloke singing with Rene.Absolute shocker.
I don't know who he was but he was rubbish. Tried to smooth his way onto Renee at the end of the song with a bit of chat but I'm looking at the state of the fat pr!ck and just LingMAO.
Was an ordinary spectacle I thought, maybe i was just itching to see the game, but watching that tribal woman bumbling through her speech was very testing.
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I met Kutcha Edwards at the The Palais in Hepburn Springs on the night of the rugby world cup and he had me on stage singing the chorus of that song that they all sang last night.
I chatted to him for a long time after he performed and he told me he was a reformed alcoholic. He also told me he was of the stolen generation and that he was 36 years old. I tried to suggest in my usual subtle style ;) that he was too young for that particular line and that he needed to put all that symbolism behind him and be more pro-active. He seemed to me to have an attitude of being hard done by in life. He is a good bloke though, very amiable and he loved my singing :bow
Last night he was appalling - it was a rubbish song and he actually can't sing in my opinion.
Can anyone explain what the whole show was about - too much empty symbolism for me and in the past couple of years that elder has welcomed me about six times at various events - thanks lady but I don't need any more gum leaves. Also what is Michael Long actually trying to say - he didn't walk to Canberra and the PM said he'd see him any time he wanted. I understood he only got to Wangaratta? I'm sure he's well intentioned but I'm not sure what he has in mind to actually do. Cathy Freeman wore her best jeans. Peter Garrett said what? The other singers were good.
The guy I felt sorry for was Monkhurst - shown on the big screen shaking hands with Saint Michael as a representative of the token racist.
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I met Kutcha Edwards at the The Palais in Hepburn springs on the night of the rugby world cup and he had me on stage singing the chorus of that song that they all sang last night.
I chatted to him for a long time after he performed and he told me he was a reformed alchoholic. He also told me he was of the stolen generation and that he was 36 years old. I tried to suggest in my usual subtle style ;) that he was too young for that particular line and that he needed to put all that symbolism behind him and be more pro-active. He seemed to me to have an attitude of being hard done by in life. He is a good bloke though, very amiable and he loved my singing :bow
Last night he was appalling - it was a rubbish song and he actually can't sing in my opinion.
Can anyone explain what the whole show was about - too much empty symbolism for me and in the past couple of years that elder has welcomed me about six times at various events - thanks lady but I don't need any more gum leaves. Also what is Michael Long actually trying to say - he didn't walk to Canberra and the PM said he'd see him any time he wanted. I undrstood he only got to Wangaratta? I'm sure he's well intentioned but I'm not sure what he has in mind to actually do. Cathy Freeman wore her best jeans. Peter Garrett said what? The other singers were good.
The guy I felt sorry for was Monkhurst - shown on the big screen shaking hands with saint Michael as a representative of the token racist.
Whatever he is trying to get across would be totally lost on meathead football supporters who think they can sing ;)
The problem with their movement is they have no great spokesmen/women. Michael is a terrible speaker.
Last night was too long, the message shoddy (if there was one) and not for your average footy supporter.
I really do support them, but I was sitting there saying hurry up and play some footy lol
Celebrate the Aboriginal footballers, but save the politics of it for another day and another audience.
Can't imagine what they were thinking of when they invited that bloke to sing.
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so we just need some plastic manufactured australian idol crap then?
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I thought the glass boomerang that Polo got for BOG was a joke. What if he tried to throw it ::)
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since when do u throw awards and trophies around? unless u are peter moore of course!
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Can just see it now, the boomerang on his mantle piece ::)
At least the club got a crystal vase for the win
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For his first game he would have been wrapped no matter what the shape of the award
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do u think they put flowers in the vase, jackstar?
some of u need to start thinking about some bigger isssues!
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do u think they put flowers in the vase, jackstar?
some of u need to start thinking about some bigger isssues!
I didnt say there was anything wrong with the vase.
The kid looked stunned when he received the Boomerang.
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Bigger issues?
Such as?
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Bigger issues.
Maybe Longy walked to Euroa and not Wangaratta ::)
They still say he walked to Canberra in yesterdays paper :lol
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if any of you seriously believe that koories have nothing musically, as someone outrageously claimed in this thread then i suggest u take a listen to archie roach.
he is possible the great australian singer. he is amazing. have a listen to 'charocoal lane,' 'jamu dreaming,' waiting for butterboy' and the marvellous 'sensual being.'
i defy u not to be moved.
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if any of you seriously believe that koories have nothing musically, as someone outrageously claimed in this thread then i suggest u take a listen to archie roach.
he is possible the great australian singer. he is amazing. have a listen to 'charocoal lane,' 'jamu dreaming,' waiting for butterboy' and the marvellous 'sensual being.'
i defy u not to be moved.
Sorry Charocoal lane ?
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Captain
I don't think anyone is really claiming that - in any event it's all in the ear of the beholder ;) anyway and imho all I'll say about Archie Roach is that he's better than Kutcha Edwards.
How do you rate Jimmy Little - that'll give me a clue :thumbsup
Yothu Yindi ( ;D) is damn good.
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i dont rate jimmy little that highly. he is ok, but a bit middle of the road for my liking.
gotta love the warumpi band and no fixed address, ruby hunter and yothu yindi
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""No fixed address"" Could relate that to a few of the posters here.lol
No name mentioned MJS, lol
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I'm yet to hear any Aboriginal music i like at all.
Sorry if that offends anyone
Err, no i'm not lol
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Jimmy Little has been doing it for 60 years now man, he goes alright
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he's ok man, not well tho. kidneys?
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I actually thought the acoustics in the stadium were ordinary. Couldn't hear much of the pre-game entertainment at all.
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Indigineous people better thank God they have Christine Anu because musically they have nothing.
Who was the large bloke singing with Rene.Absolute shocker.
Musically they have nothing? By what standards? Pop music, which has been around for about 50 years?
Indigenous people have had their own music for 40 odd thousand years, why would you judge them on a style of music that has only been on the planet about 1/800th of that time?
Perhaps ox just loves his MMM and judges everything by that lame and mediocre crap that they play.
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nice work dallas! :cheers
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he's ok man, not well tho. kidneys?
He is gonna start touring again man
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he is ok i guess for an old dude.
u wanna know whats on tomorrow's lunch menu?
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Indigineous people better thank God they have Christine Anu because musically they have nothing.
Who was the large bloke singing with Rene.Absolute shocker.
This is a disgraceful post. You should be ashamed of this racist rubbish.
What grounds do you have to claim he was an alcoholic?
Was it because he was black?
Shame shame shame
Get a grip pinko..
No racism in this at all.
Ure the racist for linking alcoholism to being black.
I said nothing of the sort.
But just to amuse you,
U dont get that fat drinking water and u cant sing that badly unless youve been hitting it.
I call it as i see it captain lefty.
Have u ever tried sensationalist journalism ?
I hear 60 minutes has an opening and i think you'd be perfect for the job.
BTW,Why did u call him an alcoholic?
The whole thing was embarassing.
Face it and get on with it.
LMAO@ Taking Dreamtime beliefs corporate.
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Musically they have nothing? By what standards?
Mine
Pop music, which has been around for about 50 years?
No.
By the standards set by Classical composers,Latinos,Maoris,Philipinos,Zulus,African Americans.......
Indigenous people have had their own music for 40 odd thousand years, why would you judge them on a style of music that has only been on the planet about 1/800th of that time?
Because they are supposedly career musicians that release albums to the public,the commercial listening public.
Maybe If u had of intro'd the event last night you could have said the same thing as i quoted above - then everyone would understand the realities of it all.
Why are u generalising here?
Nobody held a gun to any of the performers heads and forced them into contemporary music.
They backed themselves.
Im not disputing the fact they have their own music.
Perhaps ox just loves his MMM and judges everything by that lame and mediocre crap that they play.
Two Words
Dallas Crane.
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The problem with their movement is they have no great spokesmen/women.
The problem is they're stupid.
The way they are going about things is only prolonging failure.
WTF Do they want?
Money,Land,Both,recognition,a free ride,?
I'll give it to them if i can but i really dont know what it is.
Do they ?
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The way they are going about things is only prolonging failure.
WTF Do they want?
Money,Land,Both,recognition,a free ride,?
I'll give it to them if i can but i really dont know what it is.
Do they ?
No, they talk so much about gum leaves and gobbledygook is hard to understand what they want.
On the last Long Walk, many people turned up, and most of the speeches were of the likes of Aunty Joy talking about welcome to our land etc.
I went there because i would like to see their kids given the same opportunities as we take for granted. To see them live to relatively old ages, giving them the health services and education opportunities we have. They're still dying a lot earlier than we are, and education figures are a disgrace. Only a couple of years ago, just 12 Koori kids in Victoria graduated VCE. To be living in 2006 and have those rates is appalling. And that's the reason i went. Unfortunately, nothing like that was addressed. I left very disillusioned.
I don't like the issues of land rights and saying sorry. Getting their people healthy, educated and living lives however they value should be their first priority. To be talking about land rights, and saying sorry, to me means they really don't have their priorities right.
And they had a perfect opportunity on Saturday to get someone who could put a few words together and demand equality (not more) with what we have, and they blew it with Aunty Joy or whoever she was and a singer who we're all now laughing at.
I do agree with you, Ox, what do they want.
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Bigger issues.
Maybe Longy walked to Euroa and not Wangaratta ::)
They still say he walked to Canberra in yesterdays paper :lol
His knees conked out, Jack, and that's when and why Howard agreed to talk to him.
And going to Canberra would be the first place i'd be going. The Australian Government have let these people down for too many years hoping they would somehow die off, rather than address their problems.
The problem is they have no leaders. Longy, just like Cathy, might be role models, but they're no statesmen. That's not their fault, but they struggle badly to let us know really what they want. The Long Walk campaign is no different, unfortunately.
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Christine Anu was good but the rest. Bit of a yawn. What the heck was Cathy Freeman wearing and it looked ridiculous her and Michael Long trying to sing. And most of the entertainers were Essendon supporters - a bit biased there. But on the other hand it could explain a lot .....
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i aint gonna contribute anymore to this thread because it just gives u ignorant lot the chance to peddle yr destructive racist rubbish.
cya
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By the standards set by Classical composers,Latinos,Maoris,Philipinos,Zulus,African Americans.......
So how exactly ox, does Christine Anu meet these standards but not one other indigenous performer?
More to the point, why single out indigenous performers in this area. Going by your lofty musical standards, most of the white trailer trash music gets no where near it, why aren't you bagging them?
The problem is they're stupid.
The way they are going about things is only prolonging failure.
WTF Do they want?
No, they talk so much about gum leaves and gobbledygook is hard to understand what they want.
I do agree with you, Ox, what do they want.
That's not their fault, but they struggle badly to let us know really what they want.
Was I at a different game to you guys on Saturday night? I can't recall the indigenous leaders at the ceremony asking for anything.
Why do people think it's about handouts or just giving something away to fix 'the problem'? If so many people think it's only about 'what they want' then perhaps John Howard has had a bigger influence than I had thought!
Ox, your holier than thou attitude when it comes to being accused of racism is getting a little tiring, your post is offensive, it does nothing to contribute to reconciliation,only to hinder it, and I presume that is why WP edited that post, (and anyone that quoted you) This isn't the first time that you have tried to hide behind a 'technically what I said wasn't racist' type of defence.
To use a football analogy Ox you remind me of the type of footballer that swings a punch at his opponent and then goes hiding behind the umpire yelling "Umpy, Umpy he's gonna hit me"
A bit like Capt Revenge, I do wonder why I bother :banghead
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Well why dont the two of get off ure ass and help instead of crying foul @ others.
Basically u're both major w a n k e r s
What have u ever done for the cause apart from defending Dreamtime in an internet argument,which initially had no racist sentiment? ? ?
LMAO@ "Dallas and Cap'n Stab'n" feeling a sense of self achievement for mis-interpreting the discussion from their lefty lounges and turning it into racially motivated thread.
Toolz.
BTW,
If u think id hit someone and hide,you'd be wrong.
That sounds more like something someone as weak as the two of u would do.
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After much discussion we've decided to lock this thread because although we think the politics ares tolerable (within reason - i.e. when people stick to the issues), it seems it's now become a slanging match with a few personal insults thrown in which is against the OER guidelines.
MT & WP
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