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Football => Richmond Rant => Topic started by: mightytiges on June 07, 2021, 08:50:27 PM
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Tom Morris on Fox Footy just now linking Tom Mitchell to us. Even running with the headline "Tom Mitchell keen on move to the Tigers".
Morris saying Mitchell happy to remain at Hawthorn but if Hawthorn comes to Mitchell with a mutually beneficial deal then Mitchell would be willing to move to a successful big club such as Richmond. Richmond has two first rounders so can afford to trade one and so have the capacity to appease Hawthorn.
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Exclusive: Hawks’ Brownlow star Tom Mitchell open to a trade — with Victorian rival front of mind
Tom Morris
Fox Sports
June 7th, 2021 8:44 pm
Brownlow medallist Tom Mitchell is open to being traded to another Victorian club at the end of the season under the right circumstances.
Foxfooty.com.au understands the midfielder, who is contracted until the end of 2023, is happy to see out his career at Hawthorn but would entertain a move if the club asked him to.
Managers believe the Hawks will likely trade out at least one established member of the team - which is also a view held by some internally - but it remains to be seen whether Mitchell is that player.
Like Mitchell, Chad Wingard, Luke Breust and Jaeger O’Meara have deals until the end of 2023, while reigning Peter Crimmins medallist Jack Gunston is tied down until the end of 2022.
Mitchell, Wingard and O’Meara are all managed by TLA.
It is understood Mitchell would be receptive to a move to Richmond, which boasts a suite of 2021 draft picks and is sure to be in premiership contention again next year.
Player agents say the Tigers are hunting a mid-20s midfielder to top up again and Mitchell is one of the players that fits the mould.
Though Hawthorn and Richmond will be careful not to declare their hands too early for strategic reasons and Mitchell will say he’s happy at Waverley Park - which is true – the left-footer’s future in brown and gold is at best slightly uncertain four months out from the trade period.
If the 28-year-old is asked to consider a trade, he would only do so to another Victorian-based team in the premiership window. It’s also clear any trade would be a mutual decision, rather than a Collingwood-Treloar type scenario.
Mitchell’s connection with Carlton is strong too. He is friends and business partners with Patrick Cripps, while his father Barry played 38 games in navy blue from 1994-1996.
As Hawthorn accelerates its rebuild, the club has tremendous flexibility and scope to bring in talent, perhaps more than any other club. No player is locked in beyond 2023 - a rarity in today’s landscape - while Tom Scully and Jon Patton retiring has given list manager Mark McKenzie salary cap breathing space.
If Mitchell left, he would do so under similar circumstances to Shaun Higgins at North Melbourne last November, via a mutually beneficial arrangement.
Hawthorn has one first round selection – currently Pick 2 – plus two in the early 20s.
At each of the past two drafts they have used their first two picks, including Denver Grainger-Barras, who last November became the club’s first top-10 selection since 2006.
Meanwhile, Richmond boasts two first-round and two second-round picks which could be used in negotiations if the Hawks decide to ask the question of Mitchell at the end of the year.
One of the Tigers’ first rounders is tied to Geelong and one of the second rounders is tied to St Kilda.
Mitchell, a two-time All-Australian, is ranked elite by Champion Data for disposals in 2021, averaging 33.5 per game, and above average for score assists.
In his Brownlow Medal season of 2018, he averaged 35.3 disposals, then missing the entire 2019 season with a broken leg.
https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/teams/hawthorn-hawks/afl-trade-news-2021-tom-mitchell-trade-hawthorn-hawks-open-to-a-trade-richmond-carlton-tom-morris-report-news/news-story/57b0328e5f16b87b1a5468aa2061f001
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An accumulator of the highest order whose value has plummeted after an observation by Buckley that despite his high possessions not too many hurt the opposition.
Not to sure if he fits our game style.
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Jonathan Brown said Mitchell is worth just the one first rounder.
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https://twitter.com/StephenMatela/status/1401854145577897990
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Would rather Cerra.
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No thanks
Racks us plenty of disposals but doesn't hurt the opposition with them. Agree with Buckley
Lots of short sideways kicks.
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If the price is right then absolutely
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Would be a couple months shy of 29 at the start of next season. I’d prob look elsewhere just based on that. Next years draft is a perfect opportunity to refresh the list with 4 picks inside the top 30.
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If this is fair dinkum it means its Cotchin’s last year
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God no.
Now if someone like Fyfe wanted to, then that's a different story.
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Pass. :shh
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If he didn’t mind being on less coin then sure he can rotate through the middle as injury cover for Prestia or whoever our main extractor is at the setups. But I wouldn’t go all out to get him.
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Hes 29 for gods sake. Just No.
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Tough crowd for Tom.
I leave it to the powers that be, but apart from age there is a lot to like.
High possession getter
Clearance machine
Wins contested ball
Brownlow medal winner (maybe we get some free kicks if he plays for us)
Tackles
If we can teach him the Richmond way (i.e. he can tap it and/or get it to advantage around stoppages, and at the RFC your possession count does not matter, winning does), then (depending on cost) it would be a yes for me.
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Tough crowd for Tom.
I leave it to the powers that be, but apart from age there is a lot to like.
High possession getter
Clearance machine
Wins contested ball
Brownlow medal winner (maybe we get some free kicks if he plays for us)
Tackles
If we can teach him the Richmond way (i.e. he can tap it and/or get it to advantage around stoppages, and at the RFC your possession count does not matter, winning does), then (depending on cost) it would be a yes for me.
You’re still thinking of him in his Brownlow year. Since then he broke/fractured his leg and stuffed his shoulder and hasn’t looked anywhere near the same. Still racks up the possessions (although even those are down) and a large portion of those are contested but he’s hardly the clearance and tackle beast he was in 2018.
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I would rather someone younger around 23-27
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Wrong Tom. Go for Green, not Mitchell.
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T Mitchell has the wrong outlook on team, ask the Swans.
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Pass! Great in Supercoach but washed up in the real thing ... :thumbsdown
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Topping up with Tom Mitchell while we are in a premiership window seems like a no brainer to me - Yes please!!
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would rather someone good
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Brownlow Medallist
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Hawks have a interesting plan around players once they get to 28-32. Very quick (providing this story is true) to move them on which for me is a culture killer.
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From On the Couch on Fox Footy:
As the draft order stands, Richmond has Picks 12, 15, 22, 31, 45 and 49 in the upcoming draft, while the Hawks, looking to regenerate their list, have Picks 4, 21, 23, 56 and 67.
The panel agreed a first-round pick would be sufficient for the star on-baller, but cautioned against paying more than that.
“We’ve been looking for the end, we’ve been looking for them to fall off a cliff,” Jonathan Brown said.
“When you look at that draft hand, if they can keep developing, their older players are not that old compared to some other teams, they might still be up for another year or two.”
Morris explained on Monday night that “no one is physically driving it (a trade) yet but Tom Mitchell’s the one that would be happy to go if Hawthorn came to him and said, ‘What do you think about this’, and at the end of the year I anticipate that that’s a good chance to happen.”
On The Couch panellist Garry Lyon said either Mitchell, Hawthorn or Richmond needed to declare their hand and “drive” the deal, but was surprised the Tigers were the leading suitor for the two-time best and fairest winner.
“It won’t break the bank but is it going to affect the young guys coming through their midfield like Collier-Dawkins and Jack Ross?”
Still, Lyon acknowledged the immediate boost an already imposing Tigers midfield could receive if Mitchell, who just turned 28, was to come across.
More importantly, for co-panellist Nick Riewoldt, the Tigers’ system would be more than well-equipped to both facilitate a trade and make sure they get the best out of Mitchell.
“Richmond would be getting him on their terms,” he said.
“That’s why it’s may be a good one for Richmond because to go there you probably have to take unders and you have to play their way.
“They’re not bending or buckling for anyone.”
https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/afl-news-2021-tom-mitchell-trade-richmond-hawthorn-draft-picks-richmond-contract-salary-reaction-on-the-couch/news-story/f3331dab10ce794ee62871a3d410d297
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WATSON: MITCHELL WOULDN’T BE A GREAT FIT FOR TIGERS
Essendon legend Tim Watson believes Richmond wouldn’t be the best fit for Hawthorn on-baller Tom Mitchell.
Foxfooty.com.au senior reporter Tom Morris revealed on Monday night that Mitchell, a Brownlow Medallist and two-time All-Australian, would be open to a “mutually beneficial” trade from the Hawks to another Victorian club, with the Tigers looming as the main suitor.
But speaking on SEN Breakfast, Watson said there were “other clubs out there that would definitely benefit” more from acquiring Mitchell than the Tigers.
“Tom Mitchell is a great player, he’s a great accumulator, he’s a great ball and all that type of thing but I just don’t think that, with what Richmond has, he is what they need,” Watson told SEN Breakfast.
“I wouldn’t think that he would be a target for Richmond in their recruiting at all. They’ve got a lot of players like that. They’ve got a lot of players they’re trying to fit into the group that they want to play as part of their midfield mix.
“They want to move the ball quickly. They want blokes who can run, they want blokes who can compete really hard at the coalface. They’ve stated that publicly that’s their target when they go after players, I just don’t see that he fits into the way that they play.
“You can’t have enough midfielders but they’ve got a lot of midfielders. There are probably midfielders that are going to be forced out of Richmond because they can’t get a job in the midfield. I just don’t see that he’d be a target.”
https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/teams/carlton-blues/afl-trade-news-rumours-whispers-2021-harry-mckay-essendon-north-melbourne-patrick-cripps-carlton-contract-tom-mitchell-richmond/news-story/89df500e143b1345f26e5b58be77cc5c
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Leppitsch also commented on the link between Hawthorn’s Tom Mitchell and the Tigers, saying he simply cannot see the Brownlow Medallist ending up in the yellow and black.
The three-time Brisbane Lions premiership defender struggled to identify many clubs that would line up well for the accumulating on-baller.
“I can’t see it, but unless they change (their game style),” he said of the Richmond link.
“They’re the kings of changing their game style. Their handballs average three metres going forward, not one metre going back, which is often what Tom Mitchell does.
“It would be a complete change in game style if they did that.
“Looking at the sorts of teams if this is the case, it would have to be someone mid-pack going up the ladder. I don’t think the top teams could afford him, per se, as a player.
“The Bulldogs have already done what they did with Adam Treloar, they’ve got a stacked midfield.
“Melbourne would be happy, Geelong as well, but every team in the middle - and he wants to stay in Melbourne - you go from Brisbane, Port, Sydney, West Coast.
“Then you’ve got Richmond and Essendon eight and nine, then it goes GWS and Fremantle. So every team in that middle rung is interstate apart form Richmond and Essendon which I think play a more dynamic game style and their midfield is set.
“So it’s going to be interesting if that’s where he wants to go. Difficult getting straight into a top team, but getting into a mid-pack team on the way up, most of them are interstate.
“Probably the one that stands out to me are the Giants who need the experience, have got draft capital and don’t need any more young kids… but he won’t want to go back to Sydney.
“It will be interesting to watch this space, so that’s probably where you think maybe it won’t happen.”
Source: SEN (https://www.sen.com.au/news/2021/06/08/the-surprising-influence-on-boltons-contract-decision/)
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Whispy clearly wants him at the Druggies
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No for me
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Since Mitchell has come back from his broken leg, he's no longer hitting the scoreboard at all and his tackling and clearance numbers have dropped away from those extraordinary high figures that won him a Brownlow.
https://afltables.com/afl/stats/players/T/Tom_Mitchell.html
At 28 going on 29 next year, he's not in our usual trading age bracket and he would be a short term option at best. Rather hold onto our picks.
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Hawthorn ball magnet Tom Mitchell insists he was caught off guard by speculation he'd be open to a move, and is adamant he wants to remain at the Hawks.
https://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/trade-hq/moneyball-latest-afl-trade-contract-and-draft-news/news-story/8d75c295524e29552583c65908768274
Hawthorn CEO Justin Reeves has rubbished claims regarding trade talk surrounding midfielder Tom Mitchell.
https://www.sen.com.au/news/2021/06/14/hawks-chief-unsure-where-mitchell-trade-rumours-originated/
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good
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The media are pushing this again.
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COULD MITCHELL FIX RICHMOND'S MIDFIELD ISSUES?
RICHMOND should look at recruiting Brownlow medallist Tom Mitchell to assist in its bid to return to finals, according to Port Adelaide great Kane Cornes.
Hawthorn is keen to hit the NAB AFL Draft hard this year, and Cornes said the Tigers' pick No.7 would suit the Hawks' rebuild perfectly.
"I've been saying all along, Richmond, the one issue is their midfield," Cornes said on Continental Tyres AFL Trade Radio.
Co-host Matthew Lloyd thinks Mitchell could add some reliability to the Tigers' engine room, which was one of the worst clearance sides in 2021.
"Tom Mitchell, you might not like how he plays, but you know what you're going to get every week," Lloyd said.
"That's where it's an interesting one for Richmond, because he's a guy who's going to walk in, and he'll be playing with Dusty Martin, Dion Prestia, Tom Mitchell, it's going to be a midfield where you know what you're going to get every week, with (Trent) Cotchin a bit of cream on the cake.
https://www.afl.com.au/news/682863/trade-talk-live-will-big-boys-be-on-the-move-
'We're unsure whether Richmond can bounce back. Their issue has been clearances, so does Tom Mitchell give them improvement?' - Dal Santo
"I think he'd hurt them defensively, and there's already one guy not defending at the stoppage' - Goddard
https://twitter.com/traderadio/status/1444799443505532932
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HEEEEELLLLLLPL NOOOO!!!
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Interesting the media want to dump these great deals on us. I haven’t heard any interest from Richmond. If we thought it’s a great deal we could look at Geelongs effort in selling the farm and how they are looking for the future.
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For pick 7? No thanks.