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Football => Richmond Rant => Topic started by: Tigeritis™©® on July 01, 2021, 10:58:17 PM
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1. Nick Vlastuin - Vice Captain.
2. Dylan Grimes - Vice Captain
3. Dion Prestia
4. Dustin Martin - Captain.
5. Jack Ross - Shop
6. Patrick Naish - Delist
7. Liam Baker
8. Jack Riewoldt - One more year as already committed
9. Trent Cotchin - Retire
10. Shane Edwards - Vice Captain
11. Jason Castagna - trade
12. David Astbury - Retire
13. Vacant
14. Bachar Houli - Retire
15. Jayden Short
16. Jake Aarts
17. Daniel Rioli - Shop
18. Vacant
19. Tom Lynch
20. Ivan Soldo
21. Noah Balta
22. Josh Caddy - trade
23. Kane Lambert
24. Vacant
25. Toby Nankervis
26. Riley Collier-Dawkins
27. Thomson Dow
28. Vacant
29. Shai Bolton
30. Vacant
31. Ryan Mansell
32. Samson Ryan
33. Kamdyn McIntosh - Trade
34. Jack Graham
35. Nathan Broad
36. Will Martyn
37. Matthew Parker
38. Noah Cumberland
39. Mate Colina
40. Callum Coleman-Jones - Shop
41. Mabior Chol - Trade
42. Ryan Garthwaite - delist
43. Derek Eggmolesse-Smith - delist
44. Sydney Stack - shop
45. Hugo Ralphsmith
46. Ben Miller
47. Bigoa Nyuon
48. Vacant
49. Maurice Rioli Jr
50. Marlion Pickett - shop (but has sons, might be worth playing him until he reaches 100 games)
Just a rough draft. Happy to move on more but I think that’s about right as a start.
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Pretty good effort.
Agree with most if not all.
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Martyn & Cumberland won't make it - they can go too..speculstive lowere picks from a shallow draft to be replace with higher picks from a stronger draft :shh
Parker was a waste of a spot...fho..... :shh
Rioli isn't going anywhere unless we want MRJ to follow soon after...t....:shh
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Martyn & Cumberland won't make it - they can go too.. :shh
Parker was a waste of a spot...fho..... :shh
Rioli isn't going anywhere unless we want MRJ to follow soon after...still better than Aarts & Gantkickit....:shh
Agree with everything you said as what I’ve seen if Cumberland and Martyn makes me think old man Betamax Jackson cracked open the highlights tapes. :rollin
Rioli was just a shop and see what bites. Anyway there’s no guarantee that MRJ will be anything special but it’s worth the risk to see if he comes on. Your probably right on Parker.
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Even taking out the "shops", that's 10 list changes. Doubt we are making 10 changes.
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At the lower bargain basement end - wouldn't be surprised if we grabbed Freeman after Hardwick brought him up the other week....(hope we steer clear of Brodie but I hear he's still very much on the radar.).. like to give Tom Green's brother another crack too ....a couple of mature/developed state league KPD's & rucks wouldn't go astray either...preferably in the 22-26 age range....and perhaps ironically we probably need another skilful & creative small forward now...preferably a one touch, harder version of Butler or a quicker version of Higgins... :shh
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Agree with all this.
I'm against trading Rioli and CCJ. Rioli has been widely spoken about being an enormous difference in our club culture an pressure style. It's no coincidence that his form slump and our lack of pressure have come at the same time.
We need some midfielders. Edwards is very close to retirement too. With Prestia and Lambert out and Cotchin and Edwards both shadows of the heroes they were we are solely reliant on Dusty and Bolton to win stoppages, the rest are kids or not up to it.
We need Cerra desperately and another decent midfielder. I believe a Tenet Dumont would be a free agent at the end of the year, he'd come cheap and would do a role nicely.
I also wouldn't give Dusty captain. I'd go straight to Vlastuin and VC Graham and Grimes.
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The list clearly needs work.
The roll players of the last few years are being found out now that we no longer have a unique and dominant system.
I think it’s a question of whether we can do a ‘mini rebuild’ or whether we need to bottom out. This will largely depend on how RCD, Dow and CCJ develop. If they fail, then we will need to spend longer at the bottom to get access to the high end talent.
It happens to all great teams.
Geelong have done well to extend their window but the cliff will come for them soon.
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Martyn & Cumberland won't make it - they can go too..speculstive lowere picks from a shallow draft to be replace with higher picks from a stronger draft :shh
Parker was a waste of a spot...fho..... :shh
Rioli isn't going anywhere unless we want MRJ to follow soon after...t....:shh
Yeah Cumberland not good enough in my view either. Martyn could become a solid backup type. Still maintain D Rioli was some much better than what George is dishing up...
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Grimes for captain for me. Vlastuin is too undisciplined.
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The list clearly needs work.
The roll players of the last few years are being found out now that we no longer have a unique and dominant system.
I think it’s a question of whether we can do a ‘mini rebuild’ or whether we need to bottom out. This will largely depend on how RCD, Dow and CCJ develop. If they fail, then we will need to spend longer at the bottom to get access to the high end talent.
It happens to all great teams.
Geelong have done well to extend their window but the cliff will come for them soon.
Dow :huh
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We have really missed Ivan Soldo this year. Just a big competitor and is very aggressive. Will welcome him back next year.
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The list clearly needs work.
The roll players of the last few years are being found out now that we no longer have a unique and dominant system.
I think it’s a question of whether we can do a ‘mini rebuild’ or whether we need to bottom out. This will largely depend on how RCD, Dow and CCJ develop. If they fail, then we will need to spend longer at the bottom to get access to the high end talent.
It happens to all great teams.
Geelong have done well to extend their window but the cliff will come for them soon.
Dow :huh
Yeah Thompson Dow.
What’s your beef Coach?
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I've been riding your nuts for ages trying to get that Wet Willy to say hello. Finally you have
But for real though I don't think Dow is really that vital to anything
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I've been riding your nuts for ages trying to get that Wet Willy to say hello. Finally you have
But for real though I don't think Dow is really that vital to anything
Haha. Well I’m chuffed that you were thinking of me you old slag!
Look he’s not the panacea, but he was a relatively high pick and I stand by my point that if he, RCD and CCJ come on then we may not have to bottom out to challenge again.
Also, I have reported you for bullying.
Cheers :cheers
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Dow looks a bit slow to me.
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Sorry to say it but I dont think Naish will make it. Players walked out of his tackles last week like through a wet paper bag. Maybe if he bulks up in a couple more pre seasons to be able to hold a tackle, but I'd do that from the rookie list I dont think he's AFL ATM. He is verging on gonski for me.
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Sorry to say it but I dont think Naish will make it. Players walked out of his tackles last week like through a wet paper bag. Maybe if he bulks up in a couple more pre seasons to be able to hold a tackle, but I'd do that from the rookie list I dont think he's AFL ATM. He is verging on gonski for me.
Why are you sorry?
I don’t think RCD (soft), Naish, Chol, Nyuon, Ross, Cumberland, Martyn, CCJ (soft), Egg, Garthwaite won’t make it.
I also think Astbury, Houli and Cotchin are finished.
I don’t (or never) rate MacIntosh, Castagna, and Pickett
And I’m not sorry about it at all :rollin
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Rather than just name those who need to go id rather look at the spots where there is little cover quality and depth.
Back half
KPD, - Astbury 31 retire, Balta 22 Nyuon 20 and Miller 22. Astbury is shot. If we cant play Miller with the injuries we have had then id say he is gone. Nyuon has a long way to go and relying on late picks to become quality players is not the way to go about it. I'd say its paramount we target a mature KPD and use a good pick on A young one as well.
TALL DEF- Grimes 30, Broad 28. Garthwaite 23 no one sees him making it at the top level sort of an in between player. Grimes will be 30 at start of season and Broad will be 29 in april. Realistically need a junior in the system.
MED DEF - Vlastuin 28 Ralphsmith 20. Vlastuin is getting on and is possibly the only decent sized medium defender we have on the list. Ralphsmith may not even play as a defender. We have so called small defenders but we could do with at least one medium.
SML DEF - Houli 33 ret, DES 23, Short 26 he is like Houli and DES an outside reciever with poor defensive skills and his kicking is over rated. Mansell 21 he looks a decent Defender just needs to balance it out a bit more by providing more run. Stack 21 can play the role just need to persevere. we dont need any more small defenders imo. WE NEED TO CHOP A FEW.
Thats just the back half. If Miller is not up to it Astbury is gone and Nyuon is no where near it yet, then it shapes up like this
FB: Grimes - xxxx - Mansell/Stack
HB: Vlastuin - Balta - Broad/Ralphsmith
The need for a mature KPD smacks you in the face and long term we need a high quality tall pick to come into the system to partner Balta.
If anything the key forward stocks are worse but that a bit later.
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RCD soft - I've heard it all now.... :shh :rollin
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RCD soft - I've heard it all now.... :shh :rollin
Ok I will clarify, granted he tackles well but it looks as though when the ball is to be won he’d rather tackle than win the ball himself. I’ve also seen him pull out of couple of contests Bellis like when contact was inevitable. Not great signs early and hopefully he can get those things out of his game in the future. I know it’s early but nothing really special about him at the moment to fill me with much excitement.
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He lacks intensity but I don't think I've seen 2 moms pull out of a contest.
Dont bring Belly into this either :shh
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TIGERS SHOULD ‘REJUVENATE’ MIDFIELD
Foxsports
7 July 2021
Richmond has been urged to look to youth to “rejuvenate (its) midfield” at season’s end by targeting emerging on-ballers that have only been recently drafted, or young guns in this year’s draft class.
The Tigers’ finals hopes are in jeopardy and their chances of a three-peat are almost shot after a third consecutive loss saw them drop out of the top eight.
Coach Damien Hardwick has often been working with depleted midfield groups this season, with experienced campaigners like Dion Prestia, Kane Lambert, Trent Cotchin, Toby Nankervis and Shane Edwards all missing at least three matches each this season.
The Tigers are one of several Victorian clubs that have been heavily linked to Fremantle young gun Adam Cerra, who remains unsigned beyond 2021 despite the Dockers earlier this year offering him a four-year deal worth around $750,000 per season.
Brownlow Medallist Tom Mitchell has also been linked to the Tigers after foxfooty.com.au reported the Hawks ball magnet, under the right circumstances, would be open to being traded to another Victorian club at season’s end.
Power games record-holder Kane Cornes told Channel 9’s Footy Classified Richmond “need to rejuvenate this midfield”, prompting veteran football journalist Caroline Wilson to suggest: “Two words: Tom Green. It’s romantic.”
Cornes said Green, a young gun midfielder contracted to the Giants until at least the end of 2023 and the grandson of four-time premiership Tiger Michael Green, was in the right age bracket for the Tigers to target, adding: “I wouldn’t be going for a 28-year-old in the midfield … You’ve got to go to the draft or got to someone that’s between 19 and 23 years of age.”
Asked if Cerra would be the right fit for the Tigers, Essendon legend Matthew Lloyd told Footy Classified: “I think if Richmond feel they can challenge again, I wouldn’t pay someone $750,000 to come to Richmond. I’d keep my picks and try and see if you can get a Cerra-type paying them $80,000 next year in the draft.”
https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/department-of-trade/afl-trade-news-rumours-whispers-2021-jake-stringer-essendon-contract-jordan-dawson-adelaide-tom-green-richmond/news-story/5dc10175a169a117bf0b53adf4eb4f61
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RCD soft - I've heard it all now.... :shh :rollin
:shh