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Title: Official team R17 vs Pies
Post by: one-eyed on July 08, 2021, 06:22:05 PM
IN: Daniel Rioli, Matthew Parker, Rhyan Mansell, Sydney Stack, Toby Nankervis, Will Martyn

OUT: Bachar Houli (Injured), Callum Coleman-Jones (Injured), Shane Edwards (Injured)

https://www.richmondfc.com.au/matches/3139
Title: Re: Official team R17 vs Pies
Post by: one-eyed on July 08, 2021, 06:27:53 PM
Richmond

B:    Dylan Grimes       David Astbury          Nick Vlastuin

HB:  Liam Baker           Jayden Short          Rhyan Mansell

C: Kamdyn McIntosh    Trent Cotchin          Marlion Pickett

HF:  Jason Castagna     Jack Riewoldt            Jake Aarts

F:     Tom J. Lynch        Dustin Martin           Mabior Chol

R:   Toby Nankervis  Riley Collier-Dawkins     Shai Bolton

Int (from): Jack Ross, Sydney Stack, Patrick Naish, Daniel Rioli, Thomson Dow, Jack Graham, Will Martyn, Matthew Parker

https://www.richmondfc.com.au/matches/3139#line-ups
Title: Re: Official team R17 vs Pies
Post by: lamington on July 08, 2021, 07:13:53 PM
Naaaaannnk!!!!! God we missed him. I hope stack is fit enough to play out the game! We need 2019 stack desperately!
Title: Re: Official team R17 vs Pies
Post by: crackertiger on July 08, 2021, 08:06:10 PM
I just don't understand why some players continue to get picked. Deadset does my head in.

Title: Re: Official team R17 vs Pies
Post by: Diocletian on July 08, 2021, 10:37:02 PM
If Undroppable George broke his leg Hardwick would still pick him the next week & just stand him the goal square in a moon boot hanging on to the goal post..... :shh
Title: Re: Official team R17 vs Pies
Post by: one-eyed on July 08, 2021, 11:35:30 PM
Collingwood's squad for those interested:

B: Quaynor, Roughead, Maynard

HB: Crisp, Madgen, Mayne

C: Hoskin-Elliott, De Goey, Murphy

HF: Bianco, Cameron, Thomas

F: Sidebottom, Mihocek, Elliott

R: Grundy, Pendlebury, Adams

Int (from): Brown, Cox, Ginnivan, Henry, Kelly, Macrae, Noble, Ruscoe



IN: Brown, Ginnivan, Henry, Kelly, Ruscoe

OUT: Daicos (injured), Poulter (omitted)

https://www.collingwoodfc.com.au/news/974068/team-selection-extended-squad-to-face-richmond
Title: Re: Official team R17 vs Pies
Post by: Andyy on July 09, 2021, 08:27:47 AM
So when Cox, Cameron and Mihocek are in the forward line who man's them up?

We have 2 tall KPDs in the team...
Title: Re: Official team R17 vs Pies
Post by: Rampsation on July 09, 2021, 08:49:47 AM
I think we are tanking now. Looking to get the best draft picks we can by picking sides like this.
Title: Re: Official team R17 vs Pies
Post by: Damo on July 09, 2021, 08:55:23 AM
So when Cox, Cameron and Mihocek are in the forward line who man's them up?

We have 2 tall KPDs in the team...

Astbury, Grimes, Vlastuin
Title: Re: Official team R17 vs Pies
Post by: Hard Roar Tiger on July 09, 2021, 10:06:41 AM
I think we are tanking now. Looking to get the best draft picks we can by picking sides like this.

 :lol
Title: Re: Official team R17 vs Pies
Post by: Diocletian on July 09, 2021, 10:16:15 AM
When we keep being told by the club  that Miller is highly rated internally they must mean there's a couple of receptionists at the front desk who think he's hot...because he's clearly not by Hardwick or anyone on the match committee... :shh
Title: Re: Official team R17 vs Pies
Post by: Andyy on July 09, 2021, 12:00:30 PM
So when Cox, Cameron and Mihocek are in the forward line who man's them up?

We have 2 tall KPDs in the team...

Astbury, Grimes, Vlastuin

Right...

Personally I have never considered Vlastuin to be a tall. He is a medium and a spare/interceptor and should not be expected to play on blokes that much bigger.

Obviously Cox is tallest and slowest. Astbury to him, conceding 16cm and 15kg.

Grimes to Cameron, conceding 10cm and 10kg.

Vlastuin to Mihocek, conceding 5cm and 9kg.

I know that Cox and Cameron can be quite crap but Mihocek can kick a bag.

If Miller is playing well in the 2's like they keep saying then he should be playing at 198/96 to free up a bloke like Vlastuin or Grimes to play spare man/interceptor/drop in the hole.

Unbelievable that we have almost no KPDs left and this guy still cannot get a game. Debut or delist this year surely.
Title: Re: Official team R17 vs Pies
Post by: The Machine on July 09, 2021, 12:36:51 PM
When we keep being told by the club  that Miller is highly rated internally they must mean there's a couple of receptionists at the front desk who think he's hot...because he's clearly not by Hardwick or anyone on the match committee... :shh


He is injured again
Title: Re: Official team R17 vs Pies
Post by: Diocletian on July 09, 2021, 01:11:32 PM
Missed that announcement...was it in the match?
Title: Re: Official team R17 vs Pies
Post by: The Machine on July 09, 2021, 02:56:53 PM
Not sure it was during the game, maybe in training this week? He has not been named in the VFL team to play Sunday so i am assuming he is injured.
Title: Re: Official team R17 vs Pies
Post by: pmac21 on July 09, 2021, 03:01:36 PM
If we can kick a decent score we will win.  Their forward line is functioning worse than ours. 
Title: Re: Official team R17 vs Pies
Post by: Willy on July 09, 2021, 04:54:14 PM
Word is that Nank and Vlas are out.

 :P
Title: Re: Official team R17 vs Pies
Post by: MaccaDacca on July 09, 2021, 05:08:00 PM
Word is right - both out
Title: Re: Official team R17 vs Pies
Post by: WilliamPowell on July 09, 2021, 05:16:55 PM
Yep both Nankervis and Vlastuin out

Ins: Stack,  Rioli, Gathwaite, Mansell,

Outs: Vlastuin, Edwards,  Houli, CCJ, and Ross

Dow stays in from last week

≈========================

Full line up

Backs: Ryan Garthwaite 42, David Astbury 12, Dylan Grimes 2

Half-Backs: Jayden Short 15, Sydney Stack 44, Rhyan Mansell 31

Centreline: Kamdyn McIntosh 33, Trent Cotchin 9, Marlion Pickett 50

Half-Forwards: Jason Castagna 11, Liam Baker 7,  Jake Aarts 16,

Forwards: Tom Lynch 19, Dustin Martin 4, Jack Riewoldt 8

Followers: Mabior Chol 41, Thomson Dow 27, Shai Bolton 29

Interchange: Daniel Rioli 17, Riley Collier-Dawkins 26, Patrick Naish 6, Jack Graham 34

Emergencies: Will Martyn 36, Matt Parker 37, Jack Ross 5,  Samson Ryan 32

https://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/974735/tiger-cubs-recalled-for-collingwood-clash
Title: Re: Official team R17 vs Pies
Post by: Knighter on July 09, 2021, 05:43:36 PM
Word is that Nank and Vlas are out.

 :P

Clearly given up on the year now
Title: Re: Official team R17 vs Pies
Post by: georgies31 on July 09, 2021, 07:21:37 PM
McIntosh should have been dropped been really bad.George no matter what stays.
Title: Re: Official team R17 vs Pies
Post by: the claw on July 09, 2021, 07:56:02 PM
Not sure it was during the game, maybe in training this week? He has not been named in the VFL team to play Sunday so i am assuming he is injured.
Maybe hes had enough and walked out.
Title: Re: Official team R17 vs Pies
Post by: the claw on July 09, 2021, 07:58:01 PM
Its freakin funny they have been playing Garthwaite as a fwd and now because of their incompetence are forced to play Garthwaite back.
Title: Re: Official team R17 vs Pies
Post by: Assange Tiger 😎 on July 09, 2021, 08:06:20 PM
Its freakin funny they have been playing Garthwaite as a fwd and now because of their incompetence are forced to play Garthwaite back.

Balta and Floss injured and miller unavailable this week. So incompetent and just glass half full really
Title: Re: Official team R17 vs Pies
Post by: the claw on July 09, 2021, 08:18:32 PM
Its freakin funny they have been playing Garthwaite as a fwd and now because of their incompetence are forced to play Garthwaite back.

Balta and Floss injured and miller unavailable this week. So incompetent and just glass half full really
If you look further than your nose you will get the picture. But heres a pointer for ya.
They dont think Miller is good enough what other conclusion can any one come to.
We only have two young Kpd 's on the list Miller and Nyuon and as said Miller is not good enough and Nyuon is no where near ready so what do they do they do just in case Astbury gets hurt or even Balta na that wont happen in a hundred years. What they do is play Garthwaite the only remaining tall who can play back and they play him forward in the two's .
Its hilarious that you cannot see it for yourself. I suppose some peoples blinkers are stuck on harder than others.

Any how where who has officially stated Miller is injured. If he is fair enough but more incompetence we have not had Kpds for what 6 or 7 weeks and here we have the fools saying Miller is going great but they cant pick him.
Title: Re: Official team R17 vs Pies
Post by: Willy on July 09, 2021, 08:30:13 PM
  :lol You would think that we just finished last four years in a row the way Clawski’s bangs on.

Everyone at the club is an incompetent idiot apparently.
Title: Re: Official team R17 vs Pies
Post by: the claw on July 09, 2021, 08:59:11 PM
  :lol You would think that we just finished last four years in a row the way Clawski’s bangs on.

Everyone at the club is an incompetent idiot apparently.

Cmon be fair we are not talking about the last four years we are talking about now.
Besides a lot of the topics i have been into i have hardly changed my view even during the succesful period.

If you look we have been extremely reluctant to play kids its only been when injuries have hit. People will point out and fair enough we have been winning premierships the last four years.
 But sometimes you need to continue to play kids at every opportunity and way too often over the last four years we have persevered with blokes who are so badly out of form they should have been made to go back and earn a spot.Some of them are clearly nothing more than role players and we have done nothing to keep upgrading on them.

Its not just playing kids when injuries hit, its also about making sure we have kids with games behind them when the injuries do hit or just plain getting games into them because we dont the depth in certain areas.

My commentary has not changed and i dunno about you but i really think they have become so enamoured with those who won the flags they have forgotten about what succession needs to look like and thats not just this year.

Its not just my opinion but there is a cliff coming if it has not already hit im asking and i believe we didnt have to hit and fall off the cliff.
The holes in the list have been there since 2017 and we have not done a hell of a lot to rectify it.
Title: Re: Official team R17 vs Pies
Post by: Francois Jackson on July 09, 2021, 11:04:48 PM
Dow. LMAO looks like Menadue from what i saw and plays like him.

Parker will surely be a late in for George. Lock it in.





Title: Re: Official team R17 vs Pies
Post by: georgies31 on July 10, 2021, 01:55:29 AM
  :lol You would think that we just finished last four years in a row the way Clawski’s bangs on.

Everyone at the club is an incompetent idiot apparently.

Cmon be fair we are not talking about the last four years we are talking about now.
Besides a lot of the topics i have been into i have hardly changed my view even during the succesful period.

If you look we have been extremely reluctant to play kids its only been when injuries have hit. People will point out and fair enough we have been winning premierships the last four years.
 But sometimes you need to continue to play kids at every opportunity and way too often over the last four years we have persevered with blokes who are so badly out of form they should have been made to go back and earn a spot.Some of them are clearly nothing more than role players and we have done nothing to keep upgrading on them.

Its not just playing kids when injuries hit, its also about making sure we have kids with games behind them when the injuries do hit or just plain getting games into them because we dont the depth in certain areas.

My commentary has not changed and i dunno about you but i really think they have become so enamoured with those who won the flags they have forgotten about what succession needs to look like and thats not just this year.

Its not just my opinion but there is a cliff coming if it has not already hit im asking and i believe we didnt have to hit and fall off the cliff.
The holes in the list have been there since 2017 and we have not done a hell of a lot to rectify it.

Since 2017 holes and we haven't done much to rectify it ?.You make no sense and got no idea mate I expected you had a better footy iq then that. What do we play the game for flags yes or no and we won 3 in 4 years  no matter what holes we had end of story. Sooner or later the era ends and cliff comes like hawks , lions etc .Now we either go develop through the draft or we do as cats have done top up.Kids come through that era ,Balta, Bolton , Graham,  etc.If you haven't realised we a injury rattled so much you can cover and then your patching holes.

I will give you one point yes a few if the older guys should be dropped without a doubt.
Title: Re: Official team R17 vs Pies
Post by: Diocletian on July 10, 2021, 03:00:37 AM
Dow. LMAO looks like Menadue from what i saw and plays like him.


If he's brother's any guide he'll start to come good around about the last third of the season in 2024... :shh
Title: Re: Official team R17 vs Pies
Post by: one-eyed on July 10, 2021, 07:06:26 AM
The Pies have dropped Mason Cox.

Collingwood

B: Quaynor, Roughead, Maynard

HB: Crisp, Madgen, Mayne

C: Hoskin-Elliott, De Goey, Murphy

HF: Bianco, Cameron, Thomas

F: Sidebottom, Mihocek, Elliott

FOLL: Grundy, Pendlebury, Adams

I/C: Brown, Henry, Kelly, Noble


IN: Brown, Henry, Kelly

OUT: Daicos (injured), Cox, Poulter (omitted)

https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/afl-teams-round-16-2021-team-news-whispers-selection-full-squads-ins-and-outs-supercoach-news-injuries/news-story/3bdd446530bc7fbb3d45072d8010850e
Title: Re: Official team R17 vs Pies
Post by: Andyy on July 10, 2021, 08:02:52 AM
Chol to go it alone vs Grundy.

Should buy some shares in the lube industry.
Title: Re: Official team R17 vs Pies
Post by: Damo on July 10, 2021, 08:06:01 AM
Chol to go it alone vs Grundy.

Should buy some shares in the lube industry.

 :lol :lol :lol
Title: Re: Official team R17 vs Pies
Post by: Tigeritis™©® on July 10, 2021, 12:00:05 PM
 :lol :rollin
Title: Re: Official team R17 vs Pies
Post by: sdc01 on July 10, 2021, 07:49:52 PM
Dow is the pick of the bunch from our youngsters imo

will put in a solid performance tomorrow...
Title: Re: Official team R17 vs Pies
Post by: crackertiger on July 10, 2021, 08:07:28 PM
Chol to go it alone vs Grundy.

Should buy some shares in the lube industry.

 :lol :lol :lol

Think we will need more then lube tomorrow.. Epidural might be needed after Grundys fists from the Ruck. :)
Title: Re: Official team R17 vs Pies
Post by: Rampsation on July 11, 2021, 06:43:34 PM
I think we are tanking now. Looking to get the best draft picks we can by picking sides like this.

 :lol

What do you think now?
Title: Re: Official team R17 vs Pies
Post by: pmac21 on July 11, 2021, 06:49:31 PM
Yeah a 2nd tall might have been handy
Title: Re: Official team R17 vs Pies
Post by: FooffooValve on July 11, 2021, 06:55:04 PM
Dow is the pick of the bunch from our youngsters imo

will put in a solid performance tomorrow...

Yeah...nah
Title: Re: Official team R17 vs Pies
Post by: Rampsation on July 11, 2021, 06:56:58 PM
Dow is like Corey Ellis. Our drafting the last 2 years will come back to haunt us. Our recruiters were drinking their own bath water.
Title: Re: Official team R17 vs Pies
Post by: Andyy on July 11, 2021, 07:03:37 PM
Mansell was a good pick up and selection.

We should never play Houli ahead of him again. Or ever play Houli again. Heck even Rioli looked solid in the backline.
Title: Re: Official team R17 vs Pies
Post by: Francois Jackson on July 11, 2021, 07:31:57 PM
I said he reminds of Menadue.

Between he and Naish I don't know who is more soft. Naish has form and can't believe he is still on our list