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Football => Richmond Rant => Topic started by: one-eyed on April 14, 2022, 12:22:53 AM
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VFL Round 4
Carlton (3-0, 1st) vs RICHMOND (2-1, 9th)
Sunday, 17th April @ Ikon Park (Princes Park)
Start time: 11:05 am
Broadcast: AFL website & AFL app.
https://www.afl.com.au/vfl/matches/4196
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Buy Tickets here: https://www.intix.com/events/vflround4-carltonvsrichmond
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Richmond VFL's Round 4 team v Carlton
In: Josh Caddy, Rhyan Mansell, Nick Guiney
Out: Tom Brown, Cam Olden, Tom Bracher
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B: 31. R. Mansell 48. T.Young 47. B.Nyuon
HB: 34. S.Banks 64. M.Faimalo 36. W. Martyn
C: 29. T.Sonsie 26. R.Collier-Dawkins 15. K.Lambert
HF: 38. N.Cumberland 43 J.Clarke 44 S.Stack
F: 49. M.Rioli Jnr 32. S.Ryan J.Caddy
R: 20. I.Soldo 55. L.Street 16. J.Aarts
INT: 71. J.Davies 62. N.Guiney 52. A.Hicks 70. A.Johnson 72. M.Lefau
23rd: 62. N.Guiney
EMG: 58. C.Olden 56. R.Loton 54. J.Sexton
73. S.Tucker 67. F.Elliot 66. B.Henderson
65. J.Nathan
https://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/1103913/vfl-tigers-lock-in-side-to-face-blues
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Brown dropped, rested or injured? :huh
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Rested i believe.
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Only a meaningless preseason game but our VFL side lost by close to 100 points to Carlton's ressies :P. So let's see how we go today in a real match for points.
It's a big day for our young mids by the way. Not only to win the game but to impress to push for AFL selection.
Brown dropped, rested or injured? :huh
Didn't train this week. So he must be a bit sore similar to Gibcus. As Machine said he's being rested.
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We're up by 13 pts.
19 - 6
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Here's the live stream:
https://www.afl.com.au/afl-tv/stream?streamId=State%20League%20CH13&player=arILJvH9PY
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And another two in a minute :o.
Maurice to Judd Clarke = goal :gotigers
Out of the middle and Stark crumbs the pack for another :gotigers
Rich 5.1-31
Carl 1.0-6
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Goal to the Blues on the siren.
Quarter time
Richmond 5.1-31
Carlton 2.0-12
Goals: Clarke 2, Ryan, Soldo, Stack
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Individual possies to 1/4 time:
RCD 8 + 3 clearances :thumbsup
Aarts 7
Banks 6
Stack 6 + a goal
Martyn 5
Clarke 4 + 2 goals
Lambert 4
Sonsie 4
M.Rioli 4
Mansell 4
Biggie 2
Ryan 2
Caddy 1
Soldo 1
https://www.afl.com.au/vfl/matches/4196#team-stats
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At the game and the tackling intensity is quite noticeable. Stack playing well.
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Again some of our kids showing good signs. RCD, Stack, Lambert should be considered for next week.
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LOL. Stupid stand rule is a gift to us. Lambert fakes the handpass and the Blue on the mark moves = 50m = Goal :gotigers
Rich 6.1-37
Carl 2.0-12
Q2 2 mins
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We get it forward again. Lefau clever play and gets it to Lambert by himself 20m out. Goal! :gotigers
Rich 7.1-43
Carl 2.0-12
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Back to back goals to the Blues via silly frees.
43 - 24
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RCD 1-2 with Maurice in traffic out of the middle and it lands in Olden's arms. Goes long to the square but Soldo drops the mark. We move it around by hand and Aarts finds Stack back at 40 out. Goal! :gotigers
Rich 8.1-49
Carl 4.0-24
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Stack made that goal. Won the hard ball in the centre. Off to Lambert to Sonsie who goes long and finds Olden 25 out. Goal!
Rich 9.1-55
Carl 5.0-30
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RCD out of the middle from the centre clearance. The ball bounces to Olden who grubbers a shot but it's rushed through.
We get back from the kick-in and it ends up with Olden 25 again. Goal! :gotigers
Rich 10.2-62
Carl 5.0-30
22 mins Q2
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Clarke burns off his opponent on the wing and takes 3 bounces. Ends in a throw-in inside 50. Free to Soldo in the ruck. Goal! :gotigers
Rich 11.2-68
Carl 5.0-30
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I see Aarts is playing
Seriously, how does that work? He got subbed into a AFL game yesterday and his allowed to play VFL less than 24 hours later?
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Maurice tackle at the centre bounce wins the HTB free. Off to Sonsie to Arts who kicks to Stack but he drops the simple mark. Johnson snap misses.
Blues go coast to coast from the kick-in. Costly 12-pt turnaround due to the dropped mark.
69 - 36
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I see Aarts is playing
Seriously, how does that work? He got subbed into a AFL game yesterday and his allowed to play VFL less than 24 hours later?
Playing limited minutes today to add up to a full game?
He only played 15 mins last night.
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Another "stand" rule 50 to us. Lefau goals :gotigers
Rich 12.3-75
Carl 6.0-36
32 mins Q2
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RCD up to 16 disposals. Stocker has 3.
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Great tackle by Soldo. Stopped a Blue goal opportunity.
Clever tap down by Ryan but Sonsie misses.
We get it back via Stack but Ryan kicks it to a Blue rather than snapping for goal :huh3. Siren.
40 pts up at half-time.
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Sounds like a big turnaround from the last time we played.
Time to bring some of these kids in.
It's refresh time for our senior team. Be great to see some fresh faces out there.
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Half-time
Richmond 5.1 12.4-76
Carlton 2.0 6.0-36
Goals: Clarke 2, Lambert 2, Soldo 2, Stack 2, Olden 2, Ryan, Lefau
:thumbsup
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Individual possies to 1/2 time:
RCD 16
Aarts 16
Lambert 13
Stack 13
Banks 12
Martyn 11
M.Rioli 10
Sonsie 10
Clarke 8
Mansell 7
Biggie 5
Ryan 5
Soldo 5
Caddy 1
Team Stats:
Disposals: 173 - 147
Marks: 39 - 24
Clearances: 27 - 20
Inside 50s: 28 - 20
Tackles: 31 - 23
Hitouts: 31 - 14
Frees: 16 - 13
https://www.afl.com.au/vfl/matches/4196#team-stats
On top in every stat and all the cubs playing well :thumbsup.
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Is Caddy injured?
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Start of the 3rd: Two fantastic goal saving tackles (Biggie then Mansell) :clapping.
Is Caddy injured?
Not sure. I missed the first 10 mins.
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Pressure been very good.
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Mansell to Olden (contested mark) at HF. Goes long. Carlton defender gathers but Stack forces him to kick it OOTF. Banana for a point.
77 - 38
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Think Will Martyn needs a miracle to stay on list next year.
Stack should play next week. RCD too.
Biggy and Miller surely aren't that much far behind Tarrant. List management 2 years was a mare.
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HTB doesn't exist for us this qtr.
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Think Will Martyn needs a miracle to stay on list next year.
Yep. Marytn's only position is as an inside mid not a HB or defender. Footskills and leg speed not good enough elsewhere.
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We've been lucky this quarter. 3 bad mistakes (Soldo misjudging the flight, Martyn's intercepted kick across defence, Biggie's 50) in the defensive half not punished by the Blues.
77 - 45
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Goal to Carlton. Most of the quarter has been in their forward half.
77 - 53
26 mins Q3
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Winds picking up, are Blues kicking with it?
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Winds picking up, are Blues kicking with it?
Yes
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Think Will Martyn needs a miracle to stay on list next year.
Yep. Marytn's only position is as an inside mid not a HB or defender. Footskills and leg speed not good enough elsewhere.
Yes- lack of speed not suited to HBF. Mid only or not at all.
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RCD has been really good.
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Well that was a forgettable quarter :P. Spent the quarter trying to stop the Blues from scoring and we could hardly get it past centre (granted the Blues had the breeze).
3/4 time
Richmond 5.1 12.4 12.5-77
Carlton 2.0 6.0 8.5-53
Goals: Clarke 2, Lambert 2, Soldo 2, Stack 2, Olden 2, Ryan, Lefau
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Stats to 3/4 time:
Lambert 24
RCD 22
Aarts 22
Stack 17
Banks 16
Martyn 16
Mansell 15
M.Rioli 14
Sonsie 14
Soldo 11
Clarke 9
Biggie 8 ..... been very good back in defence.
Ryan 5
Caddy 1 .... not seen since early on.
Team stats:
Disposals: 262 - 253
Marks: 64 - 46
Clearances: 33 - 31
Inside 50s: 32 - 39
Tackles: 47 - 33
Hitouts: 42 - 17
Frees: 18 - 19
https://www.afl.com.au/vfl/matches/4196#team-stats
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Presumably we won't have Lambert in the last quarter if he's only playing 3 quarters today.
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Commentators saying the breeze is across the ground and not advantaging anyone.
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Nice play by us. Stack to Olden to Sonsie who hits up Samson 40 out.
He misses though.
78 - 53
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Syd you don't kick short to a contest.
Biggie saves another clear goal chance for the Blues.
Btw, we can't buy a HTB decision since half time.
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Good forward pressure and Maurice's tackle wins us finally a HTB free. Off to Aarts who kicks the first of the last :gotigers.
Rich 13.6-84
Carl 8.5-53
11 mins Q4
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Maurice had really developed imho.
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Good by Maurice there taps it in front of him then hands to Clarke to Lefau on the boundary who centres it to Samson 25 out. Goal! :gotigers
Rich 14.6-90
Carl 8.6-54
16 mins Q4
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Goal to them.
90 - 60
20 mins Q4
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First mistake by Biggie in defence and no defensive pressure. Another goal to Carlton.
90 - 66
22 mins Q4
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Sorry. My browser just crashed.
Stack goal :gotigers
96 - 66
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Banks looks great, Mansell also excellent
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RCD up to 25 disposals now
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Comedic defending there. Hello junk time. Goal to them.
96 - 72
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Weve had a great draft last november guys. Gibcus, Brown, Banks, Sonsie and Clarke all look like goers. MRJnr going great, RCD getting the footy. Its looking ok for the future.
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Maurice showing some Dad-like Mr Magic stuff at HF. Downfield free. Siren.
Won by 25 pts :gotigers
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Good result for the boys. Well deserved.
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Final Score
Richmond 5.1 12.4 12.5 15.7-97
Carlton 2.0 6.0 8.5 11.6-72
Goals: Stack 3, Clarke 2, Lambert 2, Soldo 2, Ryan 2, Olden 2, Aarts, Lefau
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Sonsie is lazy. Won’t play this year on that effort
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Comfortably beat the top side in the vfl, who were undefeated and rolled us by over 100 points only a few weeks back.
Hopefully 2/3 of the boys are rewarded for their performances with a call up to the seniors.
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Disposal Stats:
Aarts 30 ........ 10 tackles, 7 clearances, 3 inside 50s
RCD 25 ....... 5 clearances
Lambert 25 ..... 6 marks, 3 clearances + 2 goals (played first 3 quarters).
Martyn 24 ...... 8 marks, 3 clearances, 4 inside 50s
Stack 24 ...... 4 tackles, 6 marks, 4 clearances, 4 inside 50s + 3 goals
Mansell 23 ...... 10 marks, 3 inside 50s
Banks 21 ....... 9 marks
M.Rioli 20 ....... 7 tackles, 4 clearances, 3 inside 50s
Sonsie 18 ........ 4 clearances, 4 inside 50s
Soldo 15 ........ 41 hitouts, 5 clearances + 2 goals
Clarke 11 ....... 3 inside 50s + 2 goals
Biggie 11 ........ 7 marks
Ryan 10 ....... 14 hitouts + 2 goals
Caddy 1 .... not seen since early in the match.
Team Stats:
Disposals: 359 - 333
Kicks: 210 - 169
Handballs: 149 - 164
Marks: 96 - 65
Clearances: 45 - 41
Inside 50s: 44 - 50
Tackles: 58 - 44
Hitouts: 55 - 25
Frees: 26 - 22
https://www.afl.com.au/vfl/matches/4196#player-stats
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Sonsie is lazy. Won’t play this year on that effort
He got the footy nearly 20 times. Hes going ok for a kid just starting out.
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RCD
Stack
Mansell
Lambert
Rioli
Aarts
All were very good.
Lots to like about how we played today with the players who we were hoping played well, did just that.
Liked the game of Biggie and Banks as well.
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:shh
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VFL Tigers record mighty win over Carlton
By Brenton Mann
Richmond Media
17 April 2022
Richmond returned to the scene of its 2019 VFL premiership triumph to grapple with the unbeaten ladder-leaders of 2022, Carlton, who also recently toppled the Tigers during their pre-season campaign.
It was the Tigers’ first trip to Ikon Park since their memorable and gripping Grand Final victory back in 2019.
Richmond was able to flip the script in their return bout, holding off Carlton in the second half to record a mighty 25-point win full of grit and vigour.
It was a game of stark contrast regarding the flow of goals, with 18 being kicked collectively in the first half and eight after half-time, the final score reading 15.7 (97) to 11.6 (72).
The drying up of scoring was largely due to the intense pressure that both sides exuded and that the ball pinged between the arcs.
The premiership captain that day was Steve Morris, who now is the senior coach at the helm of a bevy of budding Tigers.
One young Tiger that piqued the interest of the faithful last week was Judson Clarke, and the livewire forward picked up where he left off last week.
Clarke was the happy recipient of the barrage of pressure exuded in the first quarter by every player wearing the Yellow and Black, which equated to an edge on the scoreboard.
Ivan Soldo exerted his sizeable influence in the ruck and around the contest but also up forward, kicking the opening goal of the game.
Richmond was at its best, with the likes of 100-gamer, Jake Aarts, Sydney Stack, Riley Collier-Dawkins, Rhyan Mansell and Maurice Rioli Jnr hunting the Blues from all angles.
Aarts and Collier-Dawkins were the midfield generals, both showing tremendous toughness in winning the ball and feeding it to the runners on the outside of the contest.
Samson Ryan was rewarded for his attack at the contest in the front half, by converting his stuff into a goal.
Sydney Stack built on his solid recent form with a trademark display of goals, bumps and celebrations.
Stack bent through a right-foot check-side goal in the first quarter and then a long-range set-shot in the second, but it was his brutish attack at the ball that would have pleased the Richmond hierarchy most.
In one passage, he lined a disputed ball in the corridor, split open the pack and gathered the ball in one breathtaking motion, which led to Cam Olden’s first of his two goals in the second term.
Stack ended with a game-high three goals, snapping through the sealer to round out his best performance for the year.
Rioli Jnr shared the forward and midfield duties with Stack and is building on his performances as the weeks roll on.
The pressure gauge always spikes when Rioli Jnr is in the vicinity, with Carlton players ever-nervous when they were in his domain.
Richmond enjoyed a five-goal opening term and upped the ante in the second, kicking seven goals to Carlton’s four.
Kane Lambert was a significant driver in the second-quarter surge, kicking two goals of his own and was his sedulous best.
The Tigers had five players who kicked two goals in the first half: Soldo, Stack, Clarke, Lambert and Olden.
Richmond took a 40-point lead into the main break, with Carlton staring down its first loss this season.
Scoring dried up in the third term, with Richmond held goalless, the polar opposite of the shootout of the first half where 18 goals were kicked collectively.
The Blues made some tweaks around the contest, adding more density around the ball and forcing it forward at will, slotting the only two goals of the third term.
The ball lived in Carlton’s half for the majority and the lack of scoring meant it also pinballed between the attacking arcs of each side.
This meant that Richmond’s backline was under siege at times and the man that kept the Carlton troops at bay was Mansell.
Mansell has a never-say-die attitude that he projects onto every contest he’s involved in.
Sam Banks shares a lot of the same traits as Mansell: diligent, ever-engaged, sturdy overhead and dynamic with ball-in-hand.
When it seemed that every second player was cramping in the final term, Banks burnt a track down the outer wing, constantly providing coverage for his tiring defence.
Bigoa Nyuon put in another solid performance, holding down the key defensive post and offering great coverage and support for fellow key back Tylar Young. Young fought out an intriguing duel with dangerous Carlton forward, Ben Crocker.
CARL: 2.0 6.0 8.5 11.6 (72)
RICH: 5.1 12.4 12.5 15.7 (97)
Goal Kickers:
Rich: Stack (3), Clarke (2), Lambert (2), Olden (2), Ryan (2), Soldo (2), Aarts, Lefau
https://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/1105715/vfl-tigers-record-mighty-win-over-carlton
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Match Highlights:
Watch here: https://www.richmondfc.com.au/video/1105676/vfl-r4-match-highlights
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:shh
Agree all 5 from last year look good. Maurice Jnr coming along. RCD getting more of the footy. Its looking ok.
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Melbourne have really gone bang and for me it started our game against them last year, they were just way to good.
Time to start rolling these players through to find the next gen before the moment is gone.
A much as I/we bag the handbaggers they continually are there abouts, I cant deal with us capitulating again! The fact Geelong can do it shows we need to continue to improve all around.
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Geelong have been staying as ‘contenders’ without actually winning a flag. I’d much rather drop down and reset then play the role of bridesmaid every year.
Also if your looking to copy their model, it wouldn’t be by blooding youth. They rarely keep their draft picks and don’t play the ones they do draft.
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True but gotta be in it to win it
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30 years of being 9th , no thanks, need to build with kids not rejects and 30 year olds in my opinion
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Full match replay:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wz5ZyE3345E
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In defence, Mansell really played well all game and was rock solid in defence all day probably out best player all game. I’d really to see Mansell get another gig at AFL level.
I thought Banks looked ok and composed too.
Nyuon was ok but had a couple of brain fades turning the ball over at couple of times.
Martyn was very disappointing and turned it over quite a bit and got beaten one on one a few times.
Soldo dominated ruck all game but I think he needs to work more on his tapping to advantage. No use winning the tap if it’s not going to anyone.
Aarts showed why he is way above this level played in the guts and did a very good job in there his pressure was elite and clearance work was very good.
Sonsie has a lesson today playing on Hayes so didn’t have such a great game but I’m sure learnt a lot.
Good to see MRJ get some minutes at the centre bounces and did very well when given the opportunity because he creates mayhem with his pressure too.
Stack had his best game this year and also took some centre bounces but both boys were excellent with their forward pressure the whole game. Stack getting some reward on the score board for his hard work especially off ball.
Lambert was solid for the minutes he played and looked to be cruising.
Clarke is a live wire up forward and his an opportunist
I’m not convinced by Samson as a ruckman but he’s pretty young I guess and he’s still learning.
RCD had his best game of the year. Was involved in the contest his pressure was very good and his hands under pressure was elite. I also think he should kick it more especially inside 50 because he makes good decisions under pressure. If he continues to play to this level I’m sure an AFL game isn’t far away.
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Good summary, Tigeritis.
It's hard for Mansell to get into the seniors as small rebounding defenders is the one area we have a surplus of despite deficits virtually everywhere else.
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In defence, Mansell really played well all game and was rock solid in defence all day probably out best player all game. I’d really to see Mansell get another gig at AFL level.
I thought Banks looked ok and composed too.
Nyuon was ok but had a couple of brain fades turning the ball over at couple of times.
Martyn was very disappointing and turned it over quite a bit and got beaten one on one a few times.
Soldo dominated ruck all game but I think he needs to work more on his tapping to advantage. No use winning the tap if it’s not going to anyone.
Aarts showed why he is way above this level played in the guts and did a very good job in there his pressure was elite and clearance work was very good.
Sonsie has a lesson today playing on Hayes so didn’t have such a great game but I’m sure learnt a lot.
Good to see MRJ get some minutes at the centre bounces and did very well when given the opportunity because he creates mayhem with his pressure too.
Stack had his best game this year and also took some centre bounces but both boys were excellent with their forward pressure the whole game. Stack getting some reward on the score board for his hard work especially off ball.
Lambert was solid for the minutes he played and looked to be cruising.
Clarke is a live wire up forward and his an opportunist
I’m not convinced by Samson as a ruckman but he’s pretty young I guess and he’s still learning.
RCD had his best game of the year. Was involved in the contest his pressure was very good and his hands under pressure was elite. I also think he should kick it more especially inside 50 because he makes good decisions under pressure. If he continues to play to this level I’m sure an AFL game isn’t far away.
So how would Aarts go in the guts at AFL level? Have we ever played him there??
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Aarts is an in-betweener. Always in the bests at VFL level but his limited skills and decision making are not AFL standard.
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So how would Aarts go in the guts at AFL level? Have we ever played him there??
Yes, round 1, round 2 and round 3
Was a turn over king = liability.
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The VFL isn’t as fast so players like Aarts will shine when playing in there.
That’s why it’s so important players aren’t prone to panic when the heat is on. One of the first things I look for in a newbie is how composed and calm he is under pressure. In my opinion it’s these panic merchants are normally the ones that don’t make it at AFL level.
Of coarse there’s always exceptions to that rule.
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Richmond VFL coach Steve Morris provides a summary of how the Tigers’ players performed in Sunday's win over Carlton at Ikon Park.
Jake Aarts (32 disposals, 10 tackles, seven clearances, one goal)
"'Aartsy' was brilliant on the weekend. He tackled hard, won the ball for us, and put great pressure on the opposition in a very well-rounded game."
Kane Lambert (25 disposals, six marks, two goals)
"Kane had another great game. He found plenty of the footy and played his role to perfection in another step forward for him."
Riley Collier-Dawkins (25 disposals, four tackles, four clearances)
"It was a real step forward for Riley in terms of his hunt for the footy. He's based his game heavily on defence lately, but it was good to see him get a lot more offensively involved."
Rhyan Mansell (25 disposals, 11 marks, four inside-50s)
"Rhyan had a sensational game across half-back. In particular, his last quarter was outstanding with five marks from opposition possession. He attacked the ball and man hard all day."
Will Martyn (24 disposals, eight marks, six rebound-50s)
"It was great reward for Will to get more involved on offence on the weekend. He will take some great learnings out of the game in his transition to half-back."
Sydney Stack (23 disposals, six marks, three goals)
"Sydney was great in offence and defence on the weekend. He hunted the ball and had one particular contest in the centre of the ground which stood out, but he also impacted on the scoreboard as well."
Sam Banks (22 disposals, nine marks, six rebound-50s)
"He's progressing really nicely. He really works hard and the bigger ground at Carlton certainly suited him. It was great to see him not only get involved offensively but get down back and help out our back six as well.
Maurice Rioli Jnr (21 disposals, seven tackles, four clearances)
"He's in sensational form at the moment. Once again, his tackle pressure was second to none and he's improving at his centre bounce work which is also great to see and exciting for Tigers supporters."
Tyler Sonsie (18 disposals, four clearances, four inside-50s)
"He was a little quieter on the weekend. He still had an influence on the game but probably lacked a little engagement at stoppage, which is when he plays his best footy."
Ivan Soldo (16 disposals, 41 hit-outs, five tackles, two goals)
"Ivan was really pivotal for us. He attacks the ruck contest and helped us get dominance around the footy. He finished with two goals but could have easily kicked four or five."
Judson Clarke (16 disposals, three inside-50s, two goals)
"Judson played his role well. He is positioning himself really well and had a couple of classy finishes on the day also."
Bigoa Nyuon (11 disposals, seven marks, two tackles)
"'Biggie' had another solid game. He got involved offensively and his spread and run to create is something that really stands out, as well as a couple of really desperate efforts in defence."
Samson Ryan (10 disposals, 14 hit-outs, two goals)
"He is really close to having a breakout game. He's doing a great job for a young player competing against two and three in the air at times and bringing the ball to ground. Hopefully, a few more of his marks stick in the coming weeks."
Josh Caddy (one disposal, one tackle)
"Was injured in the first quarter but was absolutely fantastic on the bench coaching our young forwards throughout the day, which was really pleasing to see."
https://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/1106828/vfl-report-round-4