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VFL Round 8
Box Hill Hawks (3-3, 10th) vs RICHMOND (4-2, 8th)
Sunday, 15th May @ Box Hill City Oval
Start time: 12:00 pm ......... (new time)
Broadcast: AFL website & AFL app.
https://www.afl.com.au/vfl/matches/4226
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Round 8 time change! 🚨
Our clash with the Box Hill Hawks this Sunday will now kick off at 12.00pm.
https://twitter.com/RichmondVFL/status/1524321068412211201
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In: Ralphsmith, Edwards, Stack, Ryan, Collier-Dawkins, Hicks
Out: Nyuon, Sexton, Johnson, Guiney, Oakes, Lefau
Richmond VFL's Round 8 team
B: B Miller R Tarrant L Street
HB: W Martyn H Ralphsmith T Brown
C: M Parker J Ross S Banks
HF: J Aarts J Clarke N Cumberland
F: S Edwards S Stack T Young
R: S Ryan T Dow T Sonsie
INT: R Collier-Dawkins, A Johnson, B Henderson, A Hicks, S Tucker
23rd Player: S Tucker
EMG: N Guiney, C Olden, J Sexton
https://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/1124448/vfl-tigers-name-side-to-face-hawks
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Bump.
Note the new start time is Noon today.
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Bump.
Note the new start time is Noon today.
And on Ch7
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Thoughts on Angus Hicks number 52.
Everytime I see him play he is very ordinary. So many errors.
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Half-time
Richmond 3.4 7.5-47
Hawthorn 1.1 4.9-33
Goals: Cumberland, Aarts, Ross, Parker, Miller, Clarke, Henderson
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Stats to HT:
RCD 15 .... @ 93% eff. .... 5 score involvements, 5 marks, 2 tackles
Ross 14
Miller 13
Dow 12 ....... 6 clearances, 4 inside 50s
Banks 11
Martyn 10
Hugo 10
Ryan 10
Tarrant 10
Stack 9
Parker 8
Sonsie 8
Aarts 7
Clarke 6
Cumberland 6
Brown 4
Team stats:
Disposals: 185 - 170
Marks: 42 - 48
Clearances: 15 - 14
Inside 50s: 26 - 27
Tackles: 9 - 16
Hitouts: 16 - 7
Frees: 5 - 15
https://www.afl.com.au/vfl/matches/4226#player-stats
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Stack's thumping tackle :clapping
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FSxJuMMaUAAFgvo?format=jpg&name=medium) (https://twitter.com/7AFL/status/1525662968159301632)
https://twitter.com/7AFL/status/1525662968159301632
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2 points up. Very ordinary start to 3rd they just want it more. Their big forwards clunking them.
Were kicking with the wind hasn't been part half way much after 10 min
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Umpiring also very one sided. Funnily enough, some decisions just mind boggling
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Umpiring also very one sided. Funnily enough, some decisions just mind boggling
18-5 against
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Started the 3rd quarter half asleep but we finally get the ball forward for a goal to Young.
Rich 8.6-54
BH 6.10-46
Sonsie copped one to the midrift in a marking contest and has gone off.
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Cumberland from the boundary puts it through :gotigers.
Rich 9.9-63
BH 7.11-53
Sonsie ok. Back on.
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Another soft free kick 30 mtres out for them. He misses.
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Wind has died down by the looks
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Hawks getting rewarded for one touch tackles while our solid tackles get nothing (see Stack tackle above). There really seem to be two sets of rules out there …
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That was 15 from Dow.
Clarke copped it high not paid.
These umps are woeful. Cost us a clear goal.
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Dow beautiful kick in board (went 20) mark not paid play on. Ball up.
10 points up 3 qtr time
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3/4 time
Richmond 3.4 7.5 9.10-64
Hawthorn 1.1 4.9 7.12-54
Goals: Cumberland 2, Aarts, Ross, Parker, Miller, Clarke, Henderson, Young.
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Seriously what is going on with the umpiring.
It's infuriating
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Hungriest team will win this game. We need a forward to light it up in the last.
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Stats to 3/4 time
Miller 19
Ross 19
RCD 17
Dow 17
Hugo 17
Banks 14
Martyn 13
Parker 13
Ryan 11
Sonsie 11
Stack 10
Tarrant 10 .... didn't notice him out there in the 3rd qtr.
Aarts 9
Clarke 9
Cumberland 9
Brown 5
https://www.afl.com.au/vfl/matches/4226#player-stats
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Seriously what is going on with the umpiring.
It's infuriating
The standard of umpiring is in crisis and it's not due to "dissent". There's too many stupid new rules that they get so many basic decisions wrong.
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Goal them after 20 seconds
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Getting smashed out of the centrebounces since HT. Our mids reactive, flat-footed and ballwatching.
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Dumb Cumberland. Have the set shot.
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Dumb dumb dumb.
64 - 66
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Hicks again, ordinary kick turnover then Cumberland gives away 50. Dumb.
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9 points down now.
They're hungriest and have all the run.
Would help to get a free kick sometimes
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Just gifting the Hawks the ball.
64 - 73
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Witches hats this qtr. Pathetic!
64 - 79
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15 points now. Our mids are getting absolutely smashed all round the ground.
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We've just surrendered this.
64 - 85
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Tarrant obviously playing next week, didn't come out after half time.
Shocking last quarter. 27 points down.
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For those who can't see the game (lucky you), we are just being pushed aside in this last quarter. We either can't get our hands on the footy and when we do we just meekly cough it up. The ball hasn't passed the centre. Very very soft! :thumbsdown
64 - 97
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33 down. Ball clearly bounced prior to taking the mark so don't blame the players for giving away 50 there.
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Oooooffff may aswell have not come out after 3 qtr time. Result wouldn’t be much different.
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0-6 free kicks this quarter, just saying.
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Looks like BH have put the cue in the rack. We got an easy transition goal (nice finish by Cumberland).
Rich 10.10-70
BH 14.14-98
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0-6 free kicks this quarter, just saying.
Frees: 9 - 28
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That summed up our last quarter. Training drill from coast to coast for Box Hill with our players left behind in their wake not willing to chase and pressure.
71 - 105
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Final Score
Richmond 3.4 7.5 9.10 10.13-73
Hawthorn 1.1 4.9 7.12 15.16-106
Goals: Cumberland 3, Aarts, Ross, Parker, Miller, Clarke, Henderson, Young.
Pitiful last quarter. As bad as anything you'll see. Soft as! :thumbsdown
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No talk forwards, can’t hold a tackle and just gave up in the last. Disappointing
I’m not sure the kids are as good as we thought
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Stats kind of meaningless when you surrender the game as meekly as that but here they are:
Individual possies:
Miller 23
Dow 22
Ross 21
RCD 20
Ralphsmith 20
Parker 17
Ryan 15
Banks 14
Martyn 14
Clarke 13
Aarts 12
Cumberland 12
Stack 12
Tarrant 10 .... only played first half.
Brown 5
Team stats:
Disposals: 325 - 336
Marks: 82 - 87
Inside 50s: 47 - 62
Clearances: 31 - 40
Tackles: 22 - 48 ...... 9 Tigers didn't lay even a single tackle :help.
Hitouts: 44 - 22
Frees: 9 - 29 ...... Umps up to their usual poor standard ::)
https://www.afl.com.au/vfl/matches/4226#player-stats
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Watched and decided to leave making any comments until the game was over
Disgraceful, pathetic and non competitive (take your pick) in the last
Game was gone at the start of the last after the Box Hill bloke took the ball away in the first 10 seconds and goaled
Ross was his direct opponent at the bounce. Aarts did chase but Ross just jogged. Unacceptable. At that point I thought game over, zero pressure right there
Why did Morris not start Ryan in the middle? That's just poor coaching
I’m not sure the kids are as good as we thought
I think that's incredibly harsh bordering on foolish.
Our kids have been good most of this season. One poor quarter doesn't mean they aren't any good
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Not the best day for Morris in the box :whistle
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Have to say I watched Cumberland with interest today
And I can now see why The Machine has said he won't make
First word that comes to mind right now is selfish
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We have good kids. We have some talent issues with our VFL listed players. Theyre not good enough.
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Unfortunately the young mids in RCD, Dow, Ross, Martyn have some major flaws that looks like they will never be overcome.
However, they're still young enough to come good.
Cumberland looks good at times but he does some ridiculous things out there. Bit like Castagna.
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One thing stood out today - there wasn't a whole lot of leadership out there! The oldest head was Tarrant & he only played the first half, then ... there was nothing! Nobody stood up & set an example, plenty tried hard but they were mostly putting up losing efforts - the almost mark, the kick that just missed, the handball that went nowhere ... then the umpires had two rule books ...
Its not anybodies fault in particular, its more about our list getting very young & very thin in the VFL.
All we can do is keep working on it ...
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Unfortunately the young mids in RCD, Dow, Ross, Martyn have some major flaws that looks like they will never be overcome.
However, they're still young enough to come good.
Cumberland looks good at times but he does some ridiculous things out there. Bit like Castagna.
Don't agree on Dow his shown it at afl level the rest maybe.
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What’s foolish is when you bag our kids that’s ok but have an issue when others suggest they may be a good as / we thought. You don’t even know which ones I was referring to. Who made you captain of the world
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What’s foolish is when you bag our kids that’s ok but have an issue when others suggest they may be a good as / we thought. You don’t even know which ones I was referring to. Who made you captain of the world
I'm assuming the above is directed at me?
So if it was...
Correct I have no idea who you were referring to because you used the collective term "the kids".
And please do tell me outside of Ross and Cumberland today, who of "the kids" have have I bagged? I've actually been bagged for defending some of our younger players this season
So I have to ask who actually makes up the collective of "the kids"?
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WP you jumped in too quickly methinks. Check out JP Tiger's post.
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What’s foolish is when you bag our kids that’s ok but have an issue when others suggest they may be a good as / we thought. You don’t even know which ones I was referring to. Who made you captain of the world
I'm assuming the above is directed at me?
So if it was...
Correct I have no idea who you were referring to because you used the collective term "the kids".
And please do tell me outside of Ross and Cumberland today, who of "the kids" have have I bagged? I've actually been bagged for defending some of our younger players this season
So I have to ask who actually makes up the collective of "the kids"?
Ross deserves to be bagged. Disappeared after halftime and refused to put his body on the line in the last qtr.
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Have to say I watched Cumberland with interest today
And I can now see why The Machine has said he won't make
First word that comes to mind right now is selfish
Selfish indeed WP. He burns so many it is not funny and he needs to stop drinking his own bathwater.
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Unfortunately the young mids in RCD, Dow, Ross, Martyn have some major flaws that looks like they will never be overcome.
However, they're still young enough to come good.
Cumberland looks good at times but he does some ridiculous things out there. Bit like Castagna.
Don't agree on Dow his shown it at afl level the rest maybe.
Lets just say he's not an elite kick and dump kicks it a fair bit. Give him time though
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You basically agreed with me by naming kids that you thought needed to be bagged . You/ we are entitled to our opinion without the rudeness .
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Did Sonsie play?
This was a very disappointing result for us.
RCD, Dow, Ross, Ralphsmith, Stack all should've dominated this match and to produce this below average performance is very disappointing for our future.
You can't help but question this.
Disappointing!
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Did Sonsie play?
This was a very disappointing result for us.
RCD, Dow, Ross, Ralphsmith, Stack all should've dominated this match and to produce this below average performance is very disappointing for our future.
You can't help but question this.
Disappointing!
Stack was stuck playing in the forward line, the ball simply didn’t get there in the second half. Morris should have thrown him in the middle when we were getting monstered.
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You basically agreed with me by naming kids that you thought needed to be bagged . You/ we are entitled to our opinion without the rudeness .
Again I am assuming this is directed at me.
Please if you want to whack me go ahead but at least confirm that the whack is directed at me; just add in a WP so it's clear :thumbsup
I don't think I was rude. But clearly you did; fair enough
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The point being we should be able to have an opinion without it being personal
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Hawks streak past VFL Tigers
By Brenton Mann
Richmond Media
16 May 2022
Late Autumn balmy and blustery conditions at Box Hill City Oval greeted Richmond VFL as it took its show on the road for the second week in a row to battle the Box Hill Hawks.
The Tigers started strongly before the Hawks turned the tide in the third quarter, before overwhelming their visitors with an eight-goal-to-one final term to seal a come-from-behind 33-point win.
Richmond was plucky late but to no avail, the scoreboard reading 15.16 (106) to 10.13 (73) as the final siren sounded.
The dimensions of the ground and conditions at Box Hill can take some time to get used to and that was the case for the Tigers.
Richmond found its groove from midway through the first quarter after the Hawks kicked the opening goal of the game.
The Tigers had the first shot at kicking with the wind which was kickstarted by Noah Cumberland through a long-range shot that floated through.
Cumberland’s goal was on the back of midfield turnover by Jake Aarts, who picked up where he left off last week with his thirst for the contest.
The enigmatic forward kicked a team-high three goals and was threatening when the ball was in his domain.
Aarts slotted the Tigers’ following goal as he marked Ben Miller's pass, who provided electric overlap run that injected life into Richmond’s ball movement.
Jack Ross was another who built on his form from the previous week. He pushed himself from contest-to-contest, capping off a productive opening term with a stunning goal from the paint of 50.
Ross’ goal extended Richmond’s lead to 15 points, which was the same margin at quarter time.
Samson Ryan’s return was welcomed by the Yellow and Black midfield cohort, as the big man showed his proficiency in getting his hand to the ball first, feeding the hungry onballers at his feet.
Ryan’s capacity to remain engaged in the defensive aspects of his role as a ruckman also shone bright, as he pushed hard to provide an aerial presence in the back-half.
Riley Collier-Dawkins missed last week’s win over Port Melbourne but was back to at his bustling best, collecting 11 disposals in the first quarter. He showcased his ability to put his head down and push himself from contest to contest.
The dynamism of Matthew Parker got the Tigers off on the right note in the second term, after he snuck through his set-shot after being hemmed in on the boundary.
Ryan then plucked a forward-50 intercept and handed the ball to Miller, who slid around behind him and pierced the Sherrin through the teeth of the wind and nailed his first goal of the day.
Miller’s goal put the Tigers up by 17 points before the Hawks started to change the flow of the game.
Bailey Henderson is somewhat of a Mr. Fixit for Richmond. He started on the wing and then shifted forward before being deployed down back as Robbie Tarrant was rested in the second half.
Henderson marked strongly on the lead and kicked truly in the second term as the Hawks were mounting a challenge.
Box Hill answered back swiftly, before Judson Clarke streaked past a host of Hawks finding space inside 50 and slotted his lone goal of the game.
Clarke’s goal handed Richmond a 20-point buffer before the Hawks kicked the final goal of the quarter, reducing their margin to 14 points heading into the main break.
The Hawks slammed on two goals in quick succession after half-time, before Tylar Young steadied the ship for the Tigers with a classy set-shot goal from the boundary.
But Richmond couldn’t build on the momentum, as Box Hill once again kept itself within striking distance.
Some Cumberland brilliance in the shadows of three-quarter time held the Hawks at bay, before a final quarter avalanche swamped the Tigers.
It took the Hawks a mere 15 seconds to kick the first goal of the last quarter and they hit the front only minutes after.
Box Hill flexed its muscles at the contest and were unerring in front of goal, kicking 7.1 before Richmond registered a score.
Cumberland’s third goal was just about his best for the day, triggering a mini resurgence by his side.
Richmond recaptured its dash and dare, but couldn’t convert its momentum shift into meaningful pressure on the scoreboard.
HAWK 1.1 4.9 7.12 15.16 (106)
RICH 3.4 7.5 9.10 10.13 (73)
Goal Kickers:
Richmond: Cumberland (3), Aarts, Clarke, Henderson, Miller, Parker, Ross, Young
https://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/1127024/hawks-streak-past-vfl-tigers
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Did Sonsie play?
This was a very disappointing result for us.
RCD, Dow, Ross, Ralphsmith, Stack all should've dominated this match and to produce this below average performance is very disappointing for our future.
You can't help but question this.
Disappointing!
Sonsie it seems had a quit game. This will mean he now has to start all over again and string 10 good games together before they look at him again.
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Richmond VFL coach Steve Morris provides a summary of how the Tigers’ players performed in Sunday's Round 8 match against the Box Hill Hawks.
Thomson Dow (23 disposals, 11 clearances, seven inside-50s)
"Stood out in his clearance work. He probably needs to use his feet a little bit more, but it was a solid game from him."
Ben Miller (23 disposals, six marks, seven rebound-50s, one goal)
"It was sensational to see Ben really start to demand the footy, and we saw how well he uses it. He had a great first half on the day."
Jack Ross (22 disposals, four clearances, four rebound-50s, one goal)
"I thought Jack's attack on the contest was a standout on the day. He was the one who really set the tone in this space."
Hugo Ralphsmith (22 disposals, five rebound-50s, two inside-50s)
"His run and carry was very good at times. Our back six were a bit loose on their opponents so we'll look to tighten that up this weekend."
Riley Collier-Dawkins (19 disposals, six marks, six tackles)
"Had a sensational first half, in particular his first quarter. I thought he led the way with his tackle pressure, and it was great to see him drive his legs and take the opposition on throughout the day."
William Martyn (18 disposals, five marks, four rebound-50s)
"I thought he won the footy back well for us, we'll just be looking for him to improve the defensive side of his game down back. But the day will prove to be a really good learning experience for him."
Matt Parker (18 disposals, five marks, four tackles, one goal)
"Tried his backside off. I thought he supported our defence really well on the wing and he kicked a really nice goal as well."
Samson Ryan (16 disposals, 37 hit-outs, five clearances)
"Battled really hard on the day and led the hit-outs quite convincingly. He needs to tidy up some of his free kicks through technique, but he's progressing really well as a ruckman against some tough opposition of late."
Sam Banks (15 disposals, two inside-50s, two marks)
"We love to see him take the game on. He probably didn't get quite as many opportunities on the weekend on the smaller ground but his speed does stand out."
Tyler Sonsie (14 disposals, five marks, three inside-50s)
"A really great opportunity for Tyler to learn. He was given a fair bit of attention from the opposition and it was important to see him work through that. He didn't have a huge influence on the day but we'll be looking for him to bounce back."
Judson Clarke (14 disposals, four inside-50s, three clearances)
"I thought Judson's ball use on the day really stood out. He continues to play his role well. His field kicking was brilliant and he had another solid game."
Jake Aarts (13 disposals, five marks, three inside-50s, one goal)
"He was a real focal point for us up forward, he looked really dangerous up there. He copped a heavy collision and fought through that to come back on and play his role for the team."
Noah Cumberland (13 disposals, four marks, three goals)
"Another player that was involved in a strong collision. Offensively, he was very good on the day, he can do things that many players can't. I'm really looking forward to seeing a strong improvement in the defensive side of his game, which we know he's capable of."
Sydney Stack (12 disposals, three marks, two inside-50s)
"Probably didn't have his best day, but I'd be looking for him to bounce back strongly because he's been in good form as of late."
Robbie Tarrant (10 disposals, two marks, two rebound-50s)
"He had a really different mindset in terms of his ball use and that helped our offense. He was a really solid contributor down back in the first half, but finished up at half-time in preparation for coming weeks."
Tom Brown (six disposals, two marks)
"He didn't have his best day but we have all seen what he is capable of doing and I'm really confident that he will bounce back this weekend and have a great impact for us."
https://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/1128730/vfl-report-round-8