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Football => Richmond Rant => Topic started by: one-eyed on July 10, 2022, 12:56:31 AM

Title: Our Second Half Fadeouts
Post by: one-eyed on July 10, 2022, 12:56:31 AM
Looking back over the past decade, second half fadeouts has been something that's repeatedly occurred out of interest.

We couldn't fix it in 2013 (hello Elim Final)  :help.

We fixed it in 2017 obviously.

Can we fix it or not this year?

Dimma last night blamed us having more inexperienced players in the team than usual and so we needed to educate how to handle situations when opposition sides desperately throw caution to the wind and use it to push back and take advantage of it.


May 2013

(http://images.theage.com.au/2013/05/10/4260279/art-353-richmond-graph-300x0.jpg)
http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/cotchin-out-but-tigers-recall-foley-20130509-2jaju.html#ixzz2SooPtmUZ
http://oneeyed-richmond.com/forum/index.php?topic=17828.0


June 2017

The stark stat that shows why Tiger supporters can never relax

In its five losses so far in 2017, Richmond has kicked 222 points to 190 in the first half.

In second halves, they have managed just 133 points while conceding 260.

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2017-06-20/the-stats-files-fireworks-season-delivers-again
http://oneeyed-richmond.com/forum/index.php?topic=26420.0


July 2022

2022 Quarter Statistics

Quarter     W   D   L   For   Against   %
1st           11   0   5   57.40 (382)   39.50 (284)   134.51
2nd          12   1   3   68.39 (447)   43.42 (300)   149.00
3rd            9   0   7   54.48 (372)   49.56 (350)   106.29
4th            8   0   8   49.48 (342)   58.44 (392)   87.24
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Total        40   1   23   228.175 (1543)   189.192 (1326)   116.37

https://finalsiren.com/Fixture.asp?TeamID=8
Title: Re: Our Second Half Fadeouts
Post by: WilliamPowell on July 10, 2022, 06:43:09 AM
Too many inexperienced players?

What a cop out

The panic, lack of composure was headed by our senior players and a lack of leadership  = Grimes, Castagna,  Short, Edwards etc

That we lead by 10 points with 2 mins to go and didn't play (switch to) some temp footy to run down the clock is a leadership issue IMHO. That we get the ball and tried to go back through the corridor rather than killing time I put on the leaders, senior guys

And just further to that I hope that this loss has burned Nick Vlastuin as much as those who played. His brain fade the previous week helped in costing us this game massively
Title: Re: Our Second Half Fadeouts
Post by: georgies31 on July 10, 2022, 08:49:35 AM
Too many inexperienced players?

What a cop out

The panic, lack of composure was headed by our senior players and a lack of leadership  = Grimes, Castagna,  Short, Edwards etc

That we lead by 10 points with 2 mins to go and didn't play (switch to) some temp footy to run down the clock is a leadership issue IMHO. That we get the ball and tried to go back through the corridor rather than killing time I put on the leaders, senior guys

And just further to that I hope that this loss has burned Nick Vlastuin as much as those who played. His brain fade the previous week helped in costing us this game massively

💯 spot on the loses have not been on the youngsters hands it's experienced heads and some 3 time premiership players same thing happened last happened against cats.
Title: Re: Our Second Half Fadeouts
Post by: pmac21 on July 10, 2022, 09:52:07 AM
Need to look at the fitness Staff.  Hammy issues recurring plus lack of fitness. 
Title: Re: Our Second Half Fadeouts
Post by: Rampsation on July 10, 2022, 09:58:57 AM
Dimma is becoming sheedyesque in his protection of his favorites. Its actually a problem because hes got yes men in the coaches box now like from 2016 and before and he needs to be held to account for these decisions on players and no one has the balls to do it
Title: Re: Our Second Half Fadeouts
Post by: eliminator on July 10, 2022, 01:10:18 PM
Too many inexperienced players?

What a cop out

The panic, lack of composure was headed by our senior players and a lack of leadership  = Grimes, Castagna,  Short, Edwards etc

That we lead by 10 points with 2 mins to go and didn't play (switch to) some temp footy to run down the clock is a leadership issue IMHO. That we get the ball and tried to go back through the corridor rather than killing time I put on the leaders, senior guys

And just further to that I hope that this loss has burned Nick Vlastuin as much as those who played. His brain fade the previous week helped in costing us this game massively

I can see your point. The lack of leadership is a real issue but I fear it is also an inability to handle pressure. We have this year coughed up too many leads when the going gets tough.
Title: Re: Our Second Half Fadeouts
Post by: Tigeritis™©® on July 10, 2022, 01:50:07 PM
Dimma is becoming sheedyesque in his protection of his favorites. Its actually a problem because hes got yes men in the coaches box now like from 2016 and before and he needs to be held to account for these decisions on players and no one has the balls to do it

Like there’s a list of blokes in the VFL that are banging down the door by dominating VFL.  :shh :rollin
Title: Re: Our Second Half Fadeouts
Post by: Tiger Khosh on July 10, 2022, 03:46:08 PM
Essendon just handled the pressure a hell of a lot better than we did and against a better side too.
Title: Re: Our Second Half Fadeouts
Post by: mightytiges on July 10, 2022, 04:27:18 PM
Essendon just handled the pressure a hell of a lot better than we did and against a better side too.
Essendon had nothing to lose. More an indictment on them that they start performing once their season is gone and the pressure of expectation is off them. Very similar to us in the 90s.

Brisbane just shows teams become vulnerable once they reach a tipping point in terms of missing personnel. IIRC the Lions had 9 out today. We're now in the same boat with all our injuries  :help.

All up it's just another reason to be totally ticked off by our choke yesterday. Had we won we'd only be a game outside the top 4 with destiny in our owns hands given we play Brisbane at the 'G. Of course 11 points (our 3 narrow losses combined) more and we'd be entrenched in the top 4. Instead it's all would've, could've, should've but didn't!  :banghead
Title: Re: Our Second Half Fadeouts
Post by: one-eyed on July 11, 2022, 02:49:42 AM
Even when winning we have coughed up big leads in almost every game. As we saw yesterday that's not sustainable. We need to get better at closing out games #GoTiges

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