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Football => Richmond Rant => Topic started by: one-eyed on December 15, 2022, 02:31:10 PM
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Current co-captains: Dylan Grimes and Toby Nankervis
The Tigers only made a captaincy change earlier this year with Dylan Grimes and Toby Nankervis taking over following Trent Cotchin’s success-laden era as skipper.
That is likely to be the captaincy setup for a few more seasons at least.
Nick Vlastuin is considered a future captain and could one day hold down the role if the Tigers make a change in the coming years.
https://www.sen.com.au/news/2022/12/14/the-captaincy-status-of-all-18-afl-clubs/
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I’ve never been a fan of co-captains. Always preferred the traditional setup of 1 captain, 1 vice captain and 1 deputy vice with another couple to round out the leadership group of desired.
In saying that I think grimes and nank will get another season at least.
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In the tail end of the season when grimes was injured I felt our team looked better with just Nank solo captain. I think there should only be 1 captain
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I am not a fan of co-captains. For the majority of 2022 I don't believe it worked for us at all. Think both players struggled with it.
Agree with Lamington, when Grimes was out Nank looked more comfortable as Captain and the team looked better
Having said that I don't expect it to change in 2023 unless one of both decided to step away from it
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100% change based on last year... Nankervis struggled in the role in my view. Either way I will back the club and captains regardless.
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Was never a fan of us having co-captains but don't see the point when they fail to stand up and they make crucial schoolboy errors. Experienced players should know better about how to play wet conditions.
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Was never a fan of us having co-captains but don't see the point when they fail to stand up and they make crucial schoolboy errors. Experienced players should know better about how to play wet conditions.
Agree. Change.
Not sure who should take over though. I feel strongly about putting a line through Baker as he has no respect for the football and shouldn't be setting an example to anyone about how to possess it.
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No one stands out more than Graham. Heart and soul player
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No one stands out more than Graham. Heart and soul player
I agree but he's not a good enough footballer to lead the team.
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This is an easy one and should have been changed this season. Tom Lynch. I don't want any replies.
I am very concerned at the lack of leadership bring developed. Maybe it's Jayden Short, maybe it's Vlastuin it Graham but are any in any leadership group?
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We don’t have a standout skipper atm
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Daniel Rioli the closest thing to being a good enough footballer to be captain + his never give up run and attitude from down back is class. No idea how he speaks to the group or if he has any actual leadership qualities but..
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Never been a fan of co-captains and despite what the club says or suggest IMHO it doesn't work for us
I am very concerned at the lack of leadership bring developed. Maybe it's Jayden Short, maybe it's Vlastuin it Graham but are any in any leadership group?
I've banged on about this a bit but I wish the Club would tell us who are "emerging" leaders are. Going by what's been reported and the crickets out of the Club we don't actually have a leadership group. We just have the 2 co-captains. Which is staggering to me if accurate
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Agree WP, we had a very clear leadership group across all the lines. Do we have a vice captain?
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Agree WP, we had a very clear leadership group across all the lines. Do we have a vice captain?
No we don't have a VC
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Change. One captain a better model.
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As soon as rance went down our leadership structure went with him. The only thing that held it together was the great man cotch. Now that he’s stepped down from the role, I don’t see many options like the rest of you, but like one other said I would have gone for Lynchy. He’s our best player, already does plenty of media, is vocal on the field and has captaincy experience already.
But yeah, we had a clear captain + 2 vice captain structure. 1 of the vice captains went down and then retired and they just thought oh well he doesn’t need replacing. Even worse, once one of if not the greatest captain out club has ever had stepped down, you’d think they’d bolster up the leadership group and provide a clear structure. Instead they went for the crap co-captain model without any other appointed leaders. Not going to say the initial choice of captains was wrong because at the end of the day this is something we know very little of other than the 2-3hours of game play we see weekly. However at this stage it’s almost certainly looking like we’ll need to change this for next season. On field leadership is severely lacking and both players forms (especially grimes) has dropped since being appointed.
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Kane Cornes tonight on Footy Classified questioned whether we would make a change to the captaincy at the end of the season. He said that Liam Baker is the clear next captain of the Richmond Football Club as he's tough, plays wherever you need him and influences the game down back, through the middle and up forward. Cornes loves the way Baker plays.
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"I think he would be an outstanding captain of the Richmond footy club."
Why @kanecornes believes the Tigers should back in Liam Baker as their skipper from next year.
WATCH HERE: https://twitter.com/FootyonNine/status/1678376894608072705
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Should 100% change at seasons end. The sharing of the captaincy and the 2 who were appointed it just haven’t worked. 2024 - new coach, new captain, new leadership group.
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For once I agree with Karen.... :chuck
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For once I agree with Cornes.. Baker should be captain. Plays hard and tough within the rules and has soul
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Liam Baker should be the next Richmond captain
Kane Cornes
SEN
11 July 2023
“With a new coach and a changing of the guard at the Tigers, with (Dylan) Grimes not impacting like he has, and Nank’s (Toby Nankervis) discipline is an issue.
“I watch Baker play, he is everything you’d want as a captain.
“I don’t know how he carries himself off the field, but he plays wherever you want, team-first, does all the selfless things, is so skilful and is able to impact as big captains do in big moments.
“The suggestion wasn’t from me, it was from a caller. Credit to you, it was an excellent observation.”
https://www.sen.com.au/news/2023/07/11/kane-cornes-seven-observations-from-round-17-of-the-2023-afl-season/
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How about Captain Dusty for a flag tilt :shh
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How about Captain Dusty for a flag tilt :shh
If he didn't have to do all the media crap I'm sure he would cherish being captain
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Dimma will make him captain next year.... :shh
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Dimma will make him captain next year.... :shh
LMAO 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
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Dimma will make him captain next year.... :shh
LMAO 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
New rumour??🫣
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Dimma will make him captain next year.... :shh
LMAO 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
New rumour??🫣
Don't know, did you start it!
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Bin x 2 captains
Stupid concept.
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Bin x 2 captains
Stupid concept.
:yep
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A topic could be who do you think should be our captain .
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Before the announcement of grimes and nank, I legit wanted Vlastuin to be captain. I still hold firm on that. Although baker is a closer second.
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Stick with the current arrangement for one more year, and then Taranto.
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How does this get decided? Is it voted by the playing group? Decided by the coaches? By the footy department? A combo of all?
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Playin
Stick with the current arrangement for one more year, and then Taranto.
Why wait a whole 'nother year? Apart from the fact it's a crap concept to start with, Grimes is half-cooked and Nank is far too undisciplined for the role and arguably on the decline as well. :shh
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How does this get decided? Is it voted by the playing group? Decided by the coaches? By the footy department? A combo of all?
All of the above with input from a few others eg CEO and then the recommendation is presented to the board to be ratified
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PlayinStick with the current arrangement for one more year, and then Taranto.
Why wait a whole 'nother year? Apart from the fact it's a crap concept to start with, Grimes is half-cooked and Nank is far too undisciplined for the role and arguably on the decline as well. :shh
OMG we are on the same page. Impossible we agree on this . I'm shocked
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PlayinStick with the current arrangement for one more year, and then Taranto.
Why wait a whole 'nother year? Apart from the fact it's a crap concept to start with, Grimes is half-cooked and Nank is far too undisciplined for the role and arguably on the decline as well. :shh
Maybe, but just seems a bit disrespectful to ditch two of our long term champs with a bloke who's been here for one year. Just my opinion.
Actually wouldn't be shocked if Nank stepped down from the role at the end of this year. I reckon he might have realised he's not suited to captaincy and is better off as the enforcer. Hard to be both these days.
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How does this get decided? Is it voted by the playing group? Decided by the coaches? By the footy department? A combo of all?
All of the above with input from a few others eg CEO and then the recommendation is presented to the board to be ratified
I swear since maybe the 3 man team was selected in 2017 the club has been a lot less transparent on this process and the leadership group. Feel like they used to be more open about who was captain, vice captain, deputy vice, who else was in the leadership team, there was even like a young leadership team from memory.
Anyway there isn’t really a standout pick to be captain from our current team imo which is a problem in its own right. Lynch would be my pick but he’s inevitably gonna miss too many games. Taranto is our best player and hasn’t missed a game although I’m still unsure of his leadership qualities since he’s only been with us for 9 or so months. Hopper gives off leadership vibes in his interviews however he has his own injury issues in the past couple of seasons. Baker displays strong leadership qualities on field, putting his body on the line and doing the team things but does also seem like the goofy/prankster/immature type so not sure how he’d go with all the off field stuff.
I think the player which gives you the best balance of performance, durability, on field leadership, off field leadership is vlastuin. Only thing is he is 29 so would be another short term appointment although maybe that’s not such a bad thing. Take over until another natural young leader emerges.
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Baker strikes me as a Tony Shaw type captain - cheeky little mongrel who leads from the front and gets under the oppos skin and goads them into giving away frees. Can just see him stirring up flogs like Danger, Sicily & Andrews at the coin toss and laughing at 'em like Shaw did to Spud Frawley all those years ago. Him & Greene at the toss would be interesting. :shh
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Baker strikes me as a Tony Shaw type captain - cheeky little mongrel who leads from the front and gets under the oppos skin and goads them into giving away frees. Can just see him stirring up flogs like Danger, Sicily & Andrews at the coin toss and laughing at 'em like Shaw did to Spud Frawley all those years ago. Him & Greene at the toss would be interesting. :shh
Not good, we agree again. This is becoming to common
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I swear since maybe the 3 man team was selected in 2017 the club has been a lot less transparent on this process and the leadership group. Feel like they used to be more open about who was captain, vice captain, deputy vice, who else was in the leadership team, there was even like a young leadership team from memory.
Totally agree
Actually in 2017 through to 2021 we just had a captain and vice captain's. Didn't have a leadership group per se. Club spoke of an "emerging leadership group" but never told us who they were or who made-up the group.
During that time when Cotch, Jack and Rance were injured they made the most senior blokes captain eg Shedda or Dusty
When they appointed the co-captains they said no vice captains but we had a a leadership group behind them but despite saying they announced it due course we got crickets
And here we are in 2023 and we still have crickets around any leadership group.
It's frustrating and reckon we deserve better.
If nothing else it would make for one helluva topic to discuss ;D
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One from left field but I also think broady would make a good captain. In the best form of his career, shows strong leadership on field and handles himself well in interviews and press conferences. He’s the wrong side of 30 so would only be a short term 2-3 year captaincy. I think his incident after the 2017 GF would rule him out in the eyes of the higher ups though.
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One from left field but I also think broady would make a good captain. In the best form of his career, shows strong leadership on field and handles himself well in interviews and press conferences. He’s the wrong side of 30 so would only be a short term 2-3 year captaincy. I think his incident after the 2017 GF would rule him out in the eyes of the higher ups though.
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I think his incident after the 2017 GF would rule him out in the eyes of the higher ups though.
They were exceptional higher ups
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I think his incident after the 2017 GF would rule him out in the eyes of the higher ups though.
They were exceptional higher ups
:lol true that brother.
It was a wonderful snap, in my view.
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I think his incident after the 2017 GF would rule him out in the eyes of the higher ups though.
They were exceptional higher ups
:lol true that brother.
It was a wonderful snap, in my view.
Should have gotten another medal for his photography
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Clementine Ford wanted him sacked over that - should've made him captain right then and there. :shh
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Matthew Lloyd on Footy Classified last night said Baker should replace Grimes & Nankervis as captain next year.
Go to 1:00 min mark: https://twitter.com/FootyonNine/status/1689254583640473601
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Matthew Lloyd on Footy Classified last night said Baker should replace Grimes & Nankervis as captain next year.
Go to 1:00 min mark: https://twitter.com/FootyonNine/status/1689254583640473601
Wouldn’t be opposed but I don’t know what he’s like around the club
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Matthew Lloyd on Footy Classified last night said Baker should replace Grimes & Nankervis as captain next year.
Go to 1:00 min mark: https://twitter.com/FootyonNine/status/1689254583640473601
Wouldn’t be opposed but I don’t know what he’s like around the club
Machine - How do you guys find Bakes ?
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Don't mind who it is but co-captaincy was a silly idea.
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Dan Rioli is my pick but I wouldn’t be upset with baker
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I think it should be Liam Baker but I reckon it will be Taranto next year
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Oh also I’ve crapped on about this fantasy before but I think it would be epic if Martin became captain.
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Matthew Lloyd on Footy Classified last night said Baker should replace Grimes & Nankervis as captain next year.
Go to 1:00 min mark: https://twitter.com/FootyonNine/status/1689254583640473601
Wouldn’t be opposed but I don’t know what he’s like around the club
Machine - How do you guys find Bakes ?
Bakes would be the perfect Captain as he does everything right on field, and has developed off field. Personally I would love him to get the gig.
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And I would put Broad and Taranto as the Vice Captains. Broad is well respected :shh
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I’ve never been a fan of co-captains. Always preferred the traditional setup of 1 captain, 1 vice captain and 1 deputy vice with another couple to round out the leadership group of desired.
In saying that I think grimes and nank will get another season at least.
So if we had called Grimes the vice captain you would not have had a problem
FFS its just a title nothing more.
Every club has its leadership group. Call em all captain it means nothing.
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And I would put Broad and Taranto as the Vice Captains. Broad is well respected :shh
So you arent top four in regards to leadership?
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And I would put Broad and Taranto as the Vice Captains. Broad is well respected :shh
So you arent top four in regards to leadership?
Spiritual leader.... :shh
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And I would put Broad and Taranto as the Vice Captains. Broad is well respected :shh
So you arent top four in regards to leadership?
Spiritual leader.... :shh
The barometer
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Definitely change. Baker 100%
Nankervis is barely playing well enough lately to get picked. Grimes should retire with Cotchin.
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And I would put Broad and Taranto as the Vice Captains. Broad is well respected :shh
So you arent top four in regards to leadership?
Spiritual leader.... :shh
The barometer
Coaches vote grabber
Ticks all the boxes does Machine
Definitely time to consider Fridge for the job
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Baker, Broad or Lynch.
1 captain please. Clear vice captain and leadership group spread across defense midfield and forward.
Captain: Baker
Vice Captain and Forward leadership group: Lynch
Defense Leadership group: Broad
Midfield Leadership group: Taranto
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And I would put Broad and Taranto as the Vice Captains. Broad is well respected :shh
So you arent top four in regards to leadership?
That’s a cheap shot. Move on.
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Whatever you say Mrs. Graham.... :shh
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Whatever you say Mrs. Graham.... :shh
If you think it’s funny, laugh.
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:lol
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:lol :lol
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:lol :lol :lol
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Definitely change the captaincy setup.
It hasn’t worked.
Baker for me.
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From Barrett's 'Sliding Doors' column:
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IF ...
the 2024 season will see a new coach in Adem Yze
THEN ...
I’m tipping as new captain, too. Liam Baker. He’s ready.
https://www.afl.com.au/news/1042374/sliding-doors
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From Barrett's 'Sliding Doors' column:
(https://resources.afl.com.au/photo-resources/2020/11/17/8a4c2df0-2497-41a0-85ac-8cab8feed48a/richmond.jpg?width=952)
IF ...
the 2024 season will see a new coach in Adem Yze
THEN ...
I’m tipping as new captain, too. Liam Baker. He’s ready.
https://www.afl.com.au/news/1042374/sliding-doors
Bloke must be lurking here or in my SMSs
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New captain's and clear leadership structure please.
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Change - duel captains has been a disaster.
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Change - duel captains has been a disaster.
Yep and funny how it links directly to when we started to our downward fall (seasons 2022-23)
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Don’t know if baker is ready tbh. Full shake up of the leadership group would
Be good though. Happy for one of vlastuin, broad or Rioli from the back line.
Lynch and or dusty
And Taranto or baker.
Need guys who don’t miss through injury or suspension like
nank. I know lynch missed the whole year but he’s clearly our most experienced fwd.
Leadership group of Rioli ( or vlastuin or broad ) lynch dusty Taranto and baker with one of those being captain and one being vice would be the best outcome imo.
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I wouldn't be surprised if a player that none of us expects or wants steps up as leader under a new coach
It has been known to happen
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The captain being the player wearing 17 would be awesome
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Agree 17 would make a good captain
Over the years listening to the players and especially the ones retiring number 15 is held in very high regard amongst the playing group if that counts any
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It’s a new era - so I believe Taranto as captain is not that ridiculous. He’s in his prime , has probably has taken the mantle of our best player and here for the long haul .
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How about Jack Graham?
If for other reason than to spice up this forum, it’s frankly getting a little vanilla.
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How about Jack Graham?
If for other reason than to spice up this forum, it’s frankly getting a little vanilla.
Don’t think they would work
Hard enough playing and posting at the same time , let alone also being captain
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No one in their right mind could think this was a great idea then and even now.
What made Dimma or anyone think players would listen to old voices if they don't listen to the same old message.
Get rid of them. I laughed at clubs who went down this stupidity road. It's amateur hour and it's rubbish.
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Never been a fan of co-captains and laughed at Clubs that did it and was proud of our Club because we hadn't done it. Then we did it.
I've always seen it as a cop out, Clubs not willing to make a decision and taking the easy way out
To see how Grimes' form has tapered off since he's been captain is sad. Nank has improved in the role but seems better at it when he's sole captain
But IMHO it is time to appoint a younger captain, someone who can do it for an extended period of time just like we did with Cotch.
New Coach, new captain new chapter for the RFC
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For mine - Taranto captain now. Don't like the dual skipper set up for a start, but Grimes is fading fast as a player and may not be best 23 next season, and Nank needs to concentrate on playing good football.
Should add that both Nank and Grimes need to be nursed through preseasons these days, which isn't ideal for showing leadership over the summer.
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I like Taranto or Rioli. Baker a vice with one of Taz or Rioli
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It's time to move on from the co-captain thing. New coach coming in, its time for a new captain too. Go with youth - Baker has shown plenty in many ways. From rookie to captain sets an example to all.
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Never ever been a fan of co captains.
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It behind a paywall so I can't view the article but guessing from the pic it appears the HeraldSun is suggesting Taranto should be our next captain.
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Captain’s pick: Who will be next skipper at all 18 clubs?
There was a captaincy frenzy heading into 2023, with 11 new skippers appointed, including one who would win the flag. Which clubs are locked in to their captains and who will make change?
Paywall: https://www.codesports.com.au/afl/afl-2024-new-captain-choices-at-port-adelaide-west-coast-as-other-clubs-ponder-change/news-story/cef4ce1e9af510b44549f1cbea068ad4
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Who does Cornwit think should be captain of our club
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Who does Cornwit think should be captain of our club
Baker.
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Who does Cornwit think should be captain of our club
Baker.
Sorry I was being facetious
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Co captains are and always will be ridiculous
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Time for change . Co captains really encapsulates the end of the Dimma era . Highly undisciplined.
New Richmond . New Coach ….it’s time for a change of leadership.
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Captain Rioli in the 17!!!
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If Richmond were to consider a change in leadership for 2024, would Tim Taranto be frontrunner?
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https://www.facebook.com/supercoach/posts/pfbid02dheHN3WJmH8foKz7vjFPF6KYNCHw45AoHhhW3HyMNNCuNxdy8Kh5erJogShhuXf6l
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I thought it was a good idea to spread the load across 2 players after Cotchin - particularly with Cotchin being there as a player.
Hindsight being hindsight, it’s been a disaster with Nank being injured or undisciplined as an on field leader and Grimes not playing well enough to warrant a spot on the team.
We would have been better off keeping Cotchin as captain - now we have 2 captains that can’t really be relied upon in that role and no back up from Cotchin or Jack.
We now have the same leadership void that we had Cotchin fill 10 years ago when he came into the role which is a pickle.
The leadership that we do have in place from that era is off field so this becomes a crucial decision for Benny, Balmey and Tim Livingstone to make - with Yze.
It, in my view, is as big a decision as the one to replace the coach as it will set up our next 5 years.
For this reason, it really has to be Taranto with some experience in the support leadership roles which is where I’d get a Broad and a Lynch to support
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The feeling amongst the playing group is that Nankervis will be the sole captain heading into 2024.
https://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/next-captain.1371008/post-81769604
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Richmond will start its leadership process this week and continue it when the Tigers head to Inverloch next week for a pre-season camp.
The Tigers appointed Dylan Grimes and Toby Nankervis as the club's first ever co-captains at the start of 2022, replacing three-time premiership skipper Trent Cotchin.
Yze said any captaincy decision won't be his alone, it will involve the current leaders and the wider football club.
"It won't just be my decision; it will be a footy club decision. There will be a process around selecting the leadership group, then we will work out from there," he said.
"That process will start this week. We go on a camp next week which will be important. It will be a club decision and realistically the guys that are in our leadership group are going to have a fair say in that decision as well. That information will come out in the next few weeks."
Source: RFC website (https://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/1471562/key-tigers-duo-on-track-for-strong-start-to-2024).
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The feeling amongst the playing group is that Nankervis will be the sole captain heading into 2024.
https://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/next-captain.1371008/post-81769604
As long as we have the guts to still drop him if plays like shyte or gives away a bunch of stupid frees & 50's every other game....which on the last two year's form is a fair chance... :shh
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The feeling amongst the playing group is that Nankervis will be the sole captain heading into 2024.
https://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/next-captain.1371008/post-81769604
As long as we have the guts to still drop him if plays like shyte or gives away a bunch of stupid frees & 50's every other game....which on the last two year's form is a fair chance... :shh
I’d moreso say that if we have a captain that has the potential to be dropped due to poor form, then we’ve got the wrong captain.
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The feeling amongst the playing group is that Nankervis will be the sole captain heading into 2024.
https://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/next-captain.1371008/post-81769604
As long as we have the guts to still drop him if plays like shyte or gives away a bunch of stupid frees & 50's every other game....which on the last two year's form is a fair chance... :shh
I’d moreso say that if we have a captain that has the potential to be dropped due to poor form, then we’ve got the wrong captain.
:shh
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The feeling amongst the playing group is that Nankervis will be the sole captain heading into 2024.
https://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/next-captain.1371008/post-81769604
As long as we have the guts to still drop him if plays like shyte or gives away a bunch of stupid frees & 50's every other game....which on the last two year's form is a fair chance... :shh
I’d moreso say that if we have a captain that has the potential to be dropped due to poor form, then we’ve got the wrong captain.
I agree but season just gone one of our co-captains form was so bad you could made a case for him to be dropped. He wasn't
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The feeling amongst the playing group is that Nankervis will be the sole captain heading into 2024.
https://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/next-captain.1371008/post-81769604
As long as we have the guts to still drop him if plays like shyte or gives away a bunch of stupid frees & 50's every other game....which on the last two year's form is a fair chance... :shh
I’d moreso say that if we have a captain that has the potential to be dropped due to poor form, then we’ve got the wrong captain.
I agree but season just gone one of our co-captains form was so bad you could made a case for him to be dropped. He wasn't
I agree which is why I don’t think he’s the right choice as captain.
Don’t think nank is either but atleast he’s a lock in our 22.
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I agree which is why I don’t think he’s the right choice as captain.
Don’t think nank is either but atleast he’s a lock in our 22.
Agree
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Nank's been going rapidly downhill for the last two years...maybe not as badly as Grimes but it's still pretty obvious.... :shh
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Still far and away our first choice ruck. Unless something has changed over the summer with Ryan and he can now be competitive in marking contests and at ground level, then nanks still our guy.
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Still far and away our first choice ruck. Unless something has changed over the summer with Ryan and he can now be competitive in marking contests and at ground level, then nanks still our guy.
don't agree, our mids and clearance work was much better everytime Samson rucked. Nank has become insignificant so relies on playing rough and tough.
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If we aren't brave enough to go a younger captain, think it's obviously should be Broad.
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Out of Taranto, Baker, and Broad.
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Taranto time, if Dusty doesn't want it. Personally I'd love to see Dusty finish his career as skipper, but understand if it isn't his thing.
Baker is a great gutsy little player but I'm not sure that makes him a skipper.
Grimes and Nank are done as captains I reckon, and I've never liked the co-captain model, especially when both are injury prone and down on form. Sometimes the co-captain thing works when an older skipper is mentoring a younger one, but I don't see the point otherwise.
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Grimes and Nank are done as captains I reckon, and I've never liked the co-captain model, especially when both are injury prone and down on form. Sometimes the co-captain thing works when an older skipper is mentoring a younger one, but I don't see the point otherwise.
Reckon your last comment is spot on.
If the club was intent on co-captains then a senior bloke mentoring a young bloke would have made more sense and likely worked better than what we've seen the last 2 years
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I probably would have gone vlas when cotch finished up. Was in that right age bracket of being in his mid 20s, triple premiership player, shows leadership on field and speaks well off it. In the couple seasons gone past his form has dropped like all of his defensive team mates although to a lesser extent.
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SEN predicting captains in 5 years time :huh3.
WHO IS YOUR SIDE’S NEXT SKIPPER? PREDICTING THE CAPTAINS OF ALL 18 AFL CLUBS IN 2028
Lachlan Geleit
SEN
5 December 2023
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Liam Baker (30)
Richmond’s current co-captains Dylan Grimes and Toby Nankervis will be in their mid-30s by 2028 and either retired or nearing the end, so a captaincy change won’t be too far away.
Liam Baker is one player who inspires his teammates on the field, and he’ll be recently turned 30 and in his prime by 2028.
Another good option is Tim Taranto, who will also be (30) and sets the standard in all facets for the Tigers.
Both are solid picks but Baker gets the nod for us.
https://www.sen.com.au/news/2023/12/05/who-is-your-sides-next-skipper-predicting-the-captains-of-all-18-afl-clubs/
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Baker will be captain in 2028.....of Freo or West Coast.... :shh
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Baker will be captain in 2028.....of Freo or West Coast.... :shh
:lol :rollin
:jump :thatsgold
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Just announced at the AGM
Nank will be Sole Captain in 2024
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:facepalm
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We’ve gone solo Captain and just with that I’m happy. Cotchin was always gonna be a hard act to follow. Until someone like gibcus or an emerging midfield star cements their spot I can see why they stuck with nank even if it’s just a stop gap.
But there goes my captain dusty fantasy
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What a missed opportunity to make a statement and launch a new era . Disappointed but happy the duel captain’s fiasco is over .
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What a missed opportunity to make a statement and launch a new era . Disappointed but happy the duel captain’s fiasco is over .
Agree
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What a missed opportunity to make a statement and launch a new era . Disappointed but happy the duel captain’s fiasco is over .
Agree
Just don’t think we have an obvious leader to take over. Someone who you can depend on for form and fitness and who displays natural leadership instincts. But yeah I agree, at least the dual captaincy shambles has been scrapped.
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Not sure we can rely on Nank's form & fitness these days or that all the frees & 50s he gives away displays leadership, not to mention when he gets suspended.... :shh
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Nankervis named sole Richmond captain for 2024
Richmond ruckman Toby Nankervis will be the Club’s sole captain for the first time in 2024, having been endorsed by the Board, his teammates and club staff.
By Richmond Media
3 hrs ago
Richmond ruckman Toby Nankervis will captain the Club for a third season in 2024, having been endorsed by the Board, his teammates and club staff.
The 29-year-old was appointed co-captain with Dylan Grimes in February 2022, a role they shared across the past two years.
Nankervis will be the Club’s sole captain for the first time in 2024, a role he said he felt privileged by.
“Being able to lead this Club and our team is something I will never take for granted, so to be backed in to continue on as captain next year is a privilege,” he said.
“We have some great leaders at the footy club and are united in what we want to achieve going forward on the field and as a high-performance environment, so I am looking forward to the challenge ahead.”
Nankervis has made an excellent impact since being elevated into the role with a career-high Jack Dyer Medal finish in 2022, followed by strong form in 2023.
The hard-nosed big man averaged 16.7 disposals, 32.4 hitouts, and 5.4 tackles per match last year while also driving standard and helping to improve his teammates behind the scenes.
Grimes decided to step down from the captaincy to allow more energy for his own individual game and life balance.
The 32-year-old will remain a sounding board for Nankervis and other leaders within the group.
Richmond General Manager of Football Performance, Tim Livingstone, said Nankervis was a standout choice to lead the group.
“Our players and coaches respect how Toby goes about his football and leadership,” he said.
“He demands high standards, keeps his messaging precise, and always puts the team first with his attitude, which is a trait that Adem (Yze), our staff, and administration particularly admired in making this decision.
“Toby has been an excellent captain across the past two years with Dylan, and he will continue to blossom as an individual and leader with the responsibility that comes with him now being our sole skipper.”
Livingstone added praise for the outgoing Grimes.
“Dylan has been a leader at Richmond for a long period and has decided to take a step back from everything that captaining an AFL club entails,” he explained.
“His experience and guidance will continue to be a great asset for our group, and we thank him very much for his commitment and efforts across the past two years since being appointed as our co-captain.”
Richmond President John O’Rourke announced the appointment of Nankervis as sole captain at tonight’s Richmond Members’ Annual General Meeting.
The Club and the Tiger Army are striving towards reaching 100,000 members for the seventh consecutive season in 2024.
https://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/1476350/nankervis-named-sole-richmond-captain-for-2024
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They (again) said we have str9ng leadership group which is nice to know
But it would be great to know who males up this leadership group
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They (again) said we have str9ng leadership group which is nice to know
But it would be great to know who males up this leadership group
Couldn’t this be asked yesterday?
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They (again) said we have str9ng leadership group which is nice to know
But it would be great to know who males up this leadership group
Couldn’t this be asked yesterday?
Probably.
If I had been there I would have but I viewed on-line and the on-line side of things had a few issues
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Nank spoke to the media earlier today about being sole captain
https://www.richmondfc.com.au/video/1477422/got-great-support-around-me-and-looking-forward-to-it-nankervis?videoId=1477422&modal=true&type=video&publishFrom=1702431405001
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I won't change: Tigers skipper vows to maintain physical approach
Toby Nankervis wants to let his physical style of play set an example for Richmond teammates as he takes over as the club's sole captain
By AAP
7 hrs ago
FLYING solo as captain for the first time, Richmond's Toby Nankervis has vowed to maintain his physical brand of on-field leadership while acknowledging a responsibility to improve his discipline.
Nankervis has taken the reins as sole skipper after former co-captain Dylan Grimes stepped down, with the Tigers seeking a quick rise back up the ladder under new coach Adem Yze in 2024.
The 29-year-old ruckman felt he let his teammates down when his brutal bump on Sydney's Jake Lloyd led to a three-match ban last season.
But it won't affect the way he goes about his football as he attempts to set an example for his teammates.
"I'm never going to change the way I play," Nankervis told reporters on Wednesday.
"I want to improve as a player and probably the discipline side of the game is something I have to get better in.
"I think I have made great improvements in that area but I'll never change the way I want to play.
"Personally I feel like that's the best form of leadership at game time; that's what I really want to be my greatest asset."
Grimes stepped down this week after two seasons as co-captain with Nankervis, citing the need to focus on his own football and life balance.
The veteran defender will remain a supportive voice for premiership teammate Nankervis, who has grown into the captaincy role since triple flag-winning skipper Trent Cotchin handed it over.
"I'm a lot more comfortable in my own skin now," Nankervis said.
"I'm really comfortable with the way I turn up to the footy club every day, the way I want to lead.
"Taking over from Cotch there was a little bit of fear, I suppose, but I can't be Trent Cotchin and I can't be Chris Newman who was before him.
Toby Nankervis and Dylan Grimes lead the team out ahead of the R22 match between Richmond and St Kilda at UTAS Stadium on August 13, 2023. Picture: AFL Photos
"I just want to be myself and the best version of myself. I'm still learning and growing every day and still making mistakes but I'm really loving it."
Newman is back at Richmond as an assistant to Yze alongside former North Melbourne captain Jack Ziebell, with the pair available to pass on their wisdom and experience to Nankervis.
Nankervis is excited about the future following the recent retirement of premiership teammates Cotchin and Jack Riewoldt, as well as Shane Edwards a year earlier, and departure of former coach Damien Hardwick in May.
"We have lost a lot of experience over the last few years but I feel like the group's ready," Nankervis said.
"We've got a great group of core players that are ready to take that next step and the lessons that we've got from these great leaders ... really developed that next phase of leaders coming through.
"It's our turn now to get the club back to where we want to go."
https://www.afl.com.au/news/1071894/never-going-to-change-tigers-skipper-vows-to-maintain-physical-approach
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https://twitter.com/Richmond_FC/status/1735081163885265271
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Thats all good and well but tbh since prior to that final you have turned to poo
you need to change pal and go back to the toby version of 2020.
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It's big news in Nank's hometown.
There was a buzz at George Town pre-season footy training last night as the players discussed how exciting it was to have one of their own as captain of one of the biggest AFL clubs in the land.
https://www.examiner.com.au/story/8456801/george-town-celebrate-toby-nankervis-becoming-richmond-captain/
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On Ch7 news tonight they did a story on our community camp up in Mildura
As part of the story the reporter suggested that Jayden Short could be / is a possibility to be Vice Captain to Nank
Maybe we will get told who makes up our leadership group on 2024 :eyebrow
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KANE CORNES' RANKING OF EVERY AFL CLUB'S CAPTAIN
SEN
15 Feb 2024
15. Toby Nankervis (Richmond)
“Will captain the club solo this year – but it’s a strange choice. Shuns the media spotlight and is too often undisciplined on the field. A real shame Dustin Martin didn’t put his hand up when Trent Cotchin stood down.”
https://www.sen.com.au/news/2024/02/15/kane-cornes-ranking-of-every-afl-clubs-captain/
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States shunning the media spotlight as a reason why nank is a strange choice as captain then immediately states that it’s a shame dusty didn’t put his hand up…. :huh :huh :huh
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States shunning the media spotlight as a reason why nank is a strange choice as captain then immediately states that it’s a shame dusty didn’t put his hand up…. :huh :huh :huh
Hahaha exactly this.
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States shunning the media spotlight as a reason why nank is a strange choice as captain then immediately states that it’s a shame dusty didn’t put his hand up…. :huh :huh :huh
Hahaha exactly this.
:lol :lol