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Football => Richmond Rant => Topic started by: Tigeritis™©® on March 26, 2023, 08:45:25 AM
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Still a work in progress
Three talls looked amazing until that third quarter.
Problem also is only Cotchin looked like he knew how to play front and centre of the pack it’s a real worry as we almost never had a crumber willing to position himself at the fall of the ball.
3 tackles in our F50 is woeful.
Dusty, Bolton, MRJ are all capable but they need to provide some heat off the ball. Only Bolton had tackles in our f50.
Short up forward doesn’t work.
Mansell came on kicked a goal and laid a great tackle in our F50 which was great to see but is he the answer up forward?
The dynamic isn’t settled as yet but we need to go back to what made us the greatest and that is forward half pressure.
Dusty just has to apply pressure and not player watch when the ball is in opposition hands. And our big men could also offer some semblance of effort in that department also would be great
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Still a work in progress.
We saw the best and worst of it yesterday .
At least we have time to tinker and get it right by September.
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Have to ask the question as to the development of forward pressure, it was our 1 wood. Clarke surely is the answer but is probably too light. Forward pressure needs to revolve around Maurice but a lot of load for a very inexperienced player.
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We’ve scored 50 more points from 15 less i50’s which would indicate improved system inside 50.
I suspect that is the driver behind less tackles i50 - going for a score every 4 entries to almost 1 every 2 entries would point to less defence required as the offence inside the 50 was far better.
I think the focus for the coaches should be the 3rd qtr fade out from our mids. Got completely obliterated in that qtr which is a concern given our off field recruiting drive.
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We were efficient with scoring from inside 50 entries particularly in first half and in fourth quarter. The third quarter exposed a weakness. The lack of pace when the ball hit ground was exposed. Only Maurice had the pace to make effective chases. In the last quarter Mansell coming on helped redress the balance. Having someone like Cumberland in the forwardline provides a different option to the three talls.
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Big blokes refuse to lead and just choose to flap their arms for a pack mark.
No crumbers when the ball hits the deck.
Terrible forward pressure from all in F50.
Boring lazy and selfish.
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Big blokes refuse to lead and just choose to flap their arms for a pack mark.
No crumbers when the ball hits the deck.
Terrible forward pressure from all in F50.
Boring lazy and selfish.
Yep it was so frustrating no crumbers ever and pies constantly working hard to get back and defend like we used to
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Agree agree. Really poor effort from all our forwards last night. I thought Lynch was really bad in particular.
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Agree agree. Really poor effort from all our forwards last night. I thought Lynch was really bad in particular.
It was horrible last night. Our set shots were terrible. I thought Jack tried to be cute far to often. Tap on etc are usually a good idea when it's wet but things need to be simple not cute.
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Our forward line has been an issue since 2020. Been pathetic and we have no idea how to isolate Lynch. Every other club can do it.
We also have no small quick forwards. List management has been extremely poor. Can't tell me there aren't any quick pressured kids available in the draft late. Other clubs have em in droves copying us but we forgot to continue it.
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We really need that quick / exciting mid sized leading forward that can attract attention from defenders to create space for the KPPs to follow into space. Our game plan has always Bonn it in deep, bring it to ground and kick it in. But, with our lack of pressuring smalls we can meet that criteria any more and the ball rebounds up the other end way too quickly.
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Not working. No cohesion. No plan. No pressure when coming out :banghead
Martin can’t chase or tackle (0 tackles)
Baby giraffe Samson can’t chase or pressure (1 tackle)
Reiwoldt is too old to chase or pressure (2 tackles)
Mansell is supposed to be indigenous :help. Aggression isn’t enough and not often enough. (3 tackles)
Cumberland ✅ (8 tackles)
Reiwoldt ✅ (4 goals and head trauma)
MRJ (3 tackles) great pressure but doesn’t bother the scoreboard
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In 10 quarters this year, we’ve kicked 1 goal or less. That’s 10 out of 20 quarters!
https://twitter.com/merrrnique/status/1646862252132421632
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Stats last night as well as the scoreboard show how inconsistent we are.
Q1-2 Q3
Score per inside 50 39% 50%
Kick inside 50 retained 5% 40%
Shot at goal accuracy 27% 88%
Source: Fox Footy
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No surprise but we're last in the League for forward efficiency at just 39% according to Fox Footy.
Yesterday, we were even worse than that at just 34% :help.
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we certainly had our chances.. 19 inside 50s for 2 goals is just appalling when we’ve got the momentum. (Not that the other 3 quarters were any better (https://abs-0.twimg.com/emoji/v2/svg/1f612.svg)).
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FvAfFyfagAADlgQ?format=jpg&name=large)
https://twitter.com/merrrnique/status/1652855254738960384
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"Their forward line is a mess at the moment."
Matthew Lloyd says the Tigers need to find another method up forward, after a wasteful night in attack.
#9AFLSFS | @Channel9
WATCH HERE: https://twitter.com/FootyonNine/status/1660077222680743936
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Total goals: 265 (equal 5th lowest)
Jack Riewoldt (32) - 12.1% of Richmond's goals.
Shai Bolton (31) - 11.6%
Dustin Martin (25) - 9.4%
Tim Taranto (19) - 7.1%
Liam Baker (12) - 4.5%
Samson Ryan (12) - 4.5%
https://www.sen.com.au/news/2023/08/29/each-afl-clubs-highest-individual-goal-percentages-of-2023/
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Terrible return for the year
Really shows how poor our forward line was without Lynch etc
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To rely on a smaller key forward forward on his last legs going up against 2 or 3 opposition talls each week is better result than I would have thought, we all know Lynch has suffered his share of injuries so it’s a bit sad our recruiters weren’t thinking this could happen a couple of years ago
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Richmond has scoured the market for another key forward but at this stage is unprepared to offer up significant money to drag a second-string forward out of another club.
It means the Tigers will be desperate for star forward Tom Lynch to return to play out a full season after twin surgeries for a metatarsal fracture in his foot.
The Tigers will also be open to playing Noah Balta forward again after trialling him in attack late in the season.
The club’s top 10 pick of 2022, Josh Gibcus, is another player who could be trialled in attack.
Richmond’s Jacob Bauer played four games late in the year as a forward and will get more chances, as will mid-sized pair Judson Clark and Noah Cumberland.
https://www.codesports.com.au/afl/moneyball-the-latest-contract-updates-and-trade-news-in-the-afl/news-story/1909099736fd49d29520874e638bc573
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Richmond has scoured the market for another key forward but at this stage is unprepared to offer up significant money to drag a second-string forward out of another club.
https://www.codesports.com.au/afl/moneyball-the-latest-contract-updates-and-trade-news-in-the-afl/news-story/1909099736fd49d29520874e638bc573
good to hear
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We have completely stuffed our forward line up.
Lynch will be in 2024, what Jack was this year if he plays a full year :shh
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Lynch
Balta
Bauer
This will be the forward tall set up for the 2024 season :shh
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I just don’t see Balta as a forward. I don’t think he has the killer instinct someone like Jack or Lynch has. I find he is more reactionary which makes him great as a defender but for all his athletic gifts he doesn’t burn his opponents enough when he’s forward of centre
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Lynch
Balta
Bauer
This will be the forward tall set up for the 2024 season :shh
If things go our way, these blokes could combine for 30 next year!
:yo
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Lynch
Balta
Bauer
This will be the forward tall set up for the 2024 season :shh
If things go our way, these blokes could combine for 30 next year!
:yo
:lol
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Lynch
Balta
Bauer
This will be the forward tall set up for the 2024 season :shh
If things go our way, these blokes could combine for 30 next year!
:yo
:lol
:lol :lol
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If Melbourne had Tom Lynch fully fit they'd win the premiership.
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Have said this multiple times.
Dee's will go straight sets or be thumped by Lions.
They will trade Grundy and have. War chest to afford Lynch. They'll be desperate and give their first rounder for him. Would be a huge win for us IMO with Lynch injury record and the fact we aren't challenging for flag for a few years until we replace what we have lost.
Help Balta/Gibcus develop fwd craft, get Buku,maybe Cumberland clicks and go and get a gun forward via FA in 2 years when we start competing for flag again.
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Didn't mean it in that way. There's no way Lynch is leaving us.
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Right now, Melbourne would give us 3 first rounders for Lynch. :rollin
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I'd do it, it'd be an enormous win for us, not to downplay how great Lynch is for us. But the Dees would give up the world.
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Right now, Melbourne would give us 3 first rounders for Lynch. :rollin
Rubbish
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Right now, Melbourne would give us 3 first rounders for Lynch. :rollin
Rubbish
Agree Damo
Reckon it would be 4 first rounders minimum
:jump
:sarcasm2
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Right now, Melbourne would give us 3 first rounders for Lynch. :rollin
Rubbish
Agree Damo
Reckon it would be 4 first rounders minimum
:jump
:sarcasm2
Yep WP
I heard it was 12 first rounders and a partridge in a pear tree
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Right now, Melbourne would give us 3 first rounders for Lynch. :rollin
Rubbish
Agree Damo
Reckon it would be 4 first rounders minimum
:jump
:sarcasm2
Yep WP
I heard it was 12 first rounders and a partridge in a pear tree
:clapping :clapping
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I would trade Lynch to the Dees for a top ten pick.
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Given he'll be 31 and likely to only get on the park for half a season if that from here on in you'd take that and run.... :shh
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Right now, Melbourne would give us 3 first rounders for Lynch. :rollin
Rubbish
Did you think I was serious?
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Anyway I hear it would be 19 first rounders
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Deledio was a year younger than Lynch is now when he was traded to GWS for a 1st and 3rd round pick. Agree to pay some of Lynch wages, and send back out pick 25 and that is absolutely a fair deal.
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I’d keep Lynch. He’s a gun.
Reckon we can have him play another 3-4 years.
Unlike most, I think we can regenerate over the next couple.
Still see our back 6 as being quite strong.
With our crop of draft picks from 2021, I have hope for our mids and wingers.
Would love to see Cumberland and MRJ as the support cast for a Lynch, Balta and Bolton forward line.
Is not all bad.
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And not to forget Dusty for a touch of class.
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And not to forget Dusty for a touch of class.
Yep, can swap with Bolton but I just love Dusty in the guts - he’s field kicking is extraordinary
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I’d keep Lynch. He’s a gun.
Reckon we can have him play another 3-4 years.
Unlike most, I think we can regenerate over the next couple.
Still see our back 6 as being quite strong.
With our crop of draft picks from 2021, I have hope for our mids and wingers.
Would love to see Cumberland and MRJ as the support cast for a Lynch, Balta and Bolton forward line.
Is not all bad.
Doesn't seem bad if you're aiming to finish mid table. :shh
This ain't a premiership list, and the best coach in our generation thought the same when he walked.
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Everyone said the same thing about Collingwood’s list when Macrae took over.
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Jon Ralph must be reading OER.
The targets Melbourne should aim for in the trade and free agency market
It’s time for the Demons to make a splash, writes Jon Ralph. From the Hail Mary play to the Godfather offer, these are the names who might be on Melbourne’s trade hit list.
Jon Ralph
HeraldSun
September 18, 2023 - 4:03PM
The Demons have two first-round picks (5, 13), Fremantle’s and their own selection, improved by a straight sets defeat.
They will trade Brodie Grundy and if they can get Adam Tomlinson and James Harmes off their books they will clear another $1 million in cap space.
The Josh Schache experiment didn’t work and Ben Brown’s knee is so banged up at 30 they might have a conversation about whether he is fit to play the last year of his deal.
For a top-four finisher, having nearly $2 million in available cap space is a luxury.
HAIL MARYS (UNLIKELY BUT YOU NEVER KNOW)
1. Oscar Allen (West Coast)
2. Ben King (Gold Coast)
3. Tom Lynch (Richmond)
He is about to turn 31 and is due more than a million a year for the next two seasons.
But Richmond is intent on competing, not rebuilding, even though it seems stuck in the middle reaches of the eight.
Even if the Demons offered the world, it would leave the Richmond forward line bereft of options. But could his great mate Steven May make a pitch to reunite them again?
https://www.codesports.com.au/afl/wreck-it-ralph-the-targets-melbourne-should-aim-for-in-the-trade-and-free-agency-market/news-story/0a34d0a0e4aff0a8d41090dcc974b5c5
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I’d keep Lynch. He’s a gun.
Reckon we can have him play another 3-4 years.
Unlike most, I think we can regenerate over the next couple.
Still see our back 6 as being quite strong.
With our crop of draft picks from 2021, I have hope for our mids and wingers.
Would love to see Cumberland and MRJ as the support cast for a Lynch, Balta and Bolton forward line.
Is not all bad.
Doesn't seem bad if you're aiming to finish mid table. :shh
This ain't a premiership list, and the best coach in our generation thought the same when he walked.
Absolutely right fj. What are people thinking our better players remain mostly older blokes who are not going to get better but most likely continue to decline.
Our middle tier are not capable of taking over from the oldies and are mostly ordinary.
The club is badly wanting for quality YOUNG players as there is only Gibcus who looked like being quality in his first year.
We dont really know what we have with him as he has been there 5 minutes and people already have him pencilled in as the best kpd in the land.
The club has one thing to get right atm. Determine where we are at and act accordingly. For three years now i keep hearing we are in a window when nothing could be further from the truth. Results back this up. We are not replacing quality players with quality players. nope the system has done its job.
Imho we could finish bottom 4 quite easily simply because we just have not had access to quality picks and players.
Lets say we go again aiming for god knows what a top 4 finish if i join the rose coloured crowd, which is not going to happen and we then continue to deny ourselves access to what we need most and thats quality.
Premierships are built on sustainability and we just don't have it.They are built over a long Period of time.Time to get out of fantasy land thinking it will take 5 years. Next year is year 4, time fly's don't it.
I am happy to do a HONEST break down of the list and the quality we have coming thru but people won't like it.
The truth is we are not winning another flag for a fair while we have to wake up and start doing the hard yards.
Would not be counting on kids either apart from Gibcus you can honestly say there is no other a grader on the list going by what has happened so far.
A big shake up is required and it is needed now.
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Except you think a "shake up" involves bringing in 30 year-old duds like Taberner. :shh
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Everyone said the same thing about Collingwood’s list when Macrae took over.
everyone?
gee i would have thought a team who played off in a GF in 2018, and then played finals in years after wasnt too bad.
The blemish they had was when the club was all over the place a few years ago, hence buckley leaving his post.
They identified some list needs (Hill) and played peanuts to get him.
They also unleashed a generational talent in daicos :shh A luxury we dont have at the moment with our list as dusty is still our best player IMO. Our best hope will be brown, banks and ryan. Sonsie and Clarke look average to me from that draft. They are 3 years away from dominating if they indeed do at all.
Do you honestly think this team, esp our midfield can win a flag without adding some real a grade talent? What happens if Lynch doesnt give us a full year?
Lets take out grimes, prestia and anyone else over 31 as they wont be around much longer and even when they do play can we rely on them to take us to the promised land? I dont think so. We simply have players who are not capable to do the things that other teams can do now.
I hope the next coach doesnt think we can just keep topping up, getting rid of top picks, without finding real talent or its a trip back to the dark days of frawley and wallace.
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Except you think a "shake up" involves bringing in 30 year-old duds like Taberner. :shh
Lol i would take any actual kpf we can get our hands on. Last time i looked there was only Lynch and he is turning what 32.
Taberner any old kpf had to be better than just JR.
Sliding door moment we reuctantly as usual and belatedly as usual take a genuine 18 yo kpf in the draft. What you think we can play him straight away thats fairy land stuff.
To me a shake means prioritising kids its long overdue. But maintaining structure and a semblence of experience so they can develop where ever they need to.
If we played Taberner at ff and we got him for next to nothing, By the way he was not the only kpf i thought we should get the last few seasons, Lynch at chf and Bauer third tall then that would be better than what we had most of this year.
I would gladly have bought in Findlayson and a few others as long as we also drafted some genuine kpfs with half decent picks. But alas we continued to almost totally ignore the most glaring need we have had on the list for years.
Its funny people like you bemoaning all year that JR had to do it all on his own and now expect Lynch to do the same.
People here bemoan pplaying and persevering with Balta as a fwd when there is no one else and others we could have played in defense.
Given no team is giving away good kpf's and definately not young ones at that and we have no real means of trading for one then a kid in the draft is just about the only option we have. We need another kpf even if its only for a season or two come on down your Taberner types.
I really thought this would be quite obvios to everyone but it seems not to be the case. :shh
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Everyone said the same thing about Collingwood’s list when Macrae took over.
everyone?
gee i would have thought a team who played off in a GF in 2018, and then played finals in years after wasnt too bad.
The blemish they had was when the club was all over the place a few years ago, hence buckley leaving his post.
They identified some list needs (Hill) and played peanuts to get him.
They also unleashed a generational talent in daicos :shh A luxury we dont have at the moment with our list as dusty is still our best player IMO. Our best hope will be brown, banks and ryan. Sonsie and Clarke look average to me from that draft. They are 3 years away from dominating if they indeed do at all.
Do you honestly think this team, esp our midfield can win a flag without adding some real a grade talent? What happens if Lynch doesnt give us a full year?
Lets take out grimes, prestia and anyone else over 31 as they wont be around much longer and even when they do play can we rely on them to take us to the promised land? I dont think so. We simply have players who are not capable to do the things that other teams can do now.
I hope the next coach doesnt think we can just keep topping up, getting rid of top picks, without finding real talent or its a trip back to the dark days of frawley and wallace.
Yep.
Everyone.
They screwed their cap and had to offload 3 of their better players and the world wrote them off.
12 months later and they were a goalpost off a grand final.
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Everyone said the same thing about Collingwood’s list when Macrae took over.
everyone?
gee i would have thought a team who played off in a GF in 2018, and then played finals in years after wasnt too bad.
The blemish they had was when the club was all over the place a few years ago, hence buckley leaving his post.
They identified some list needs (Hill) and played peanuts to get him.
They also unleashed a generational talent in daicos :shh A luxury we dont have at the moment with our list as dusty is still our best player IMO. Our best hope will be brown, banks and ryan. Sonsie and Clarke look average to me from that draft. They are 3 years away from dominating if they indeed do at all.
Do you honestly think this team, esp our midfield can win a flag without adding some real a grade talent? What happens if Lynch doesnt give us a full year?
Lets take out grimes, prestia and anyone else over 31 as they wont be around much longer and even when they do play can we rely on them to take us to the promised land? I dont think so. We simply have players who are not capable to do the things that other teams can do now.
I hope the next coach doesnt think we can just keep topping up, getting rid of top picks, without finding real talent or its a trip back to the dark days of frawley and wallace.
Yep.
Everyone.
They screwed their cap and had to offload 3 of their better players and the world wrote them off.
12 months later and they were a goalpost off a grand final.
I never wrote them off. So not everyone. I did write WCE off after winning the thing though.
I think a simple rephrase Most people wrote Collingwood off and just a few idiots like me wrote The Eagles off.
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Everyone said the same thing about Collingwood’s list when Macrae took over.
everyone?
gee i would have thought a team who played off in a GF in 2018, and then played finals in years after wasnt too bad.
The blemish they had was when the club was all over the place a few years ago, hence buckley leaving his post.
They identified some list needs (Hill) and played peanuts to get him.
They also unleashed a generational talent in daicos :shh A luxury we dont have at the moment with our list as dusty is still our best player IMO. Our best hope will be brown, banks and ryan. Sonsie and Clarke look average to me from that draft. They are 3 years away from dominating if they indeed do at all.
Do you honestly think this team, esp our midfield can win a flag without adding some real a grade talent? What happens if Lynch doesnt give us a full year?
Lets take out grimes, prestia and anyone else over 31 as they wont be around much longer and even when they do play can we rely on them to take us to the promised land? I dont think so. We simply have players who are not capable to do the things that other teams can do now.
I hope the next coach doesnt think we can just keep topping up, getting rid of top picks, without finding real talent or its a trip back to the dark days of frawley and wallace.
Yep.
Everyone.
They screwed their cap and had to offload 3 of their better players and the world wrote them off.
12 months later and they were a goalpost off a grand final.
fly come on board at the end of 2021, These issues were around before that, possibly 2 or3 years. I wouldnt say everyone called it when fly "took over" I thought it was a great pick up, personally and equally as effective was the recruit of Leppa.
getting back to my original point of our list playing off in a GF. When do you think its coming?
I think i have said if we get it right its still 5 years away ,so depends how full or empty you are looking at the glass now. Plenty of retirements still to come and they need to be replaced.
you or others may think its a success just finishing mid table with the odd finals appearance, i dont.
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All I’m saying is that is happens quicker than we all might think if we get the off field stuff right. Seemingly players that are no good can thrive when given roles that suit their strengths and others can just make that leap forward in a season or two.
We’ve already seen it once. It can happen again.
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i agree but for some 5 years plus is a long time for a club that went out and gave away first round picks. Its those types of stupid mistakes that set you back further. I think Dow could have replaced Hopper all year and we would still finish where we did, which is why i hope we offload him in years to come if we are struggling, similar to what the pies and hawks did (treloar, jaegar, mitchell)
You also have to remember if we dont trade it into this draft somehow, and dont nail those 21 draftees it could be a long time before any top end talent has come into our side. I classify TT as a talent and a need due to his age, but look where those 2 got us? mid table.
I also think we in 2 years we wont have Grimes, Nank, Broady, Lynch, Dusty, Shorty will be gone or well over 30. These guys need to be replaced with equally talented players, not to mention the guys we have just lost.
The good news IMO is i see hope in our back 6. If gibcus and brown come on we should be fine. Its the mids and forward i see real issues. I see blokes like hill and bedford roaming around for other clubs for peanuts, and then question what were the idiots at the RFC thinking trying blokes like pickett, and other duds in our f50.
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If Harry McKay can win the coleman that tells me that coaching can go a really long way. Considering how inaccurate we were this year (we kicked a stupid amount of behinds vs goals in most games) plus our poor i50 ball movement was how many goals did we leave on the table?
I think if we get this right our forward line will instantly look a lot better
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We were no more inaccurate than most sides. 8 teams kicked more behinds than us leaving us mid table in that category. Surprise surprise we finished mid table.
What is scary is when you look at how many goals our PERMANENT FWDS KICKED.
Only JR kicking any decent amount and he is now retired. A very heavy reliance on mids who go fwd were next, trouble is we dont have two dusty,s or Bolton,s and they are needed in the midield.The Midfield looks absolutely pedestrian and devoid of class when they are not in there.
Jr 32 for the year the only permanent fwd who kicked a reasonable amount of goals.
Bolton 31 a more a mid and he kicked plenty of those goals as a mid.
Dusty 25 goals same as Bolton
Taranto 19 goals.
Where are the permanent fwds.
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We were no more inaccurate than most sides. 8 teams kicked more behinds than us leaving us mid table in that category. Surprise surprise we finished mid table.
What is scary is when you look at how many goals our PERMANENT FWDS KICKED.
Only JR kicking any decent amount and he is now retired. A very heavy reliance on mids who go fwd were next, trouble is we dont have two dusty,s or Bolton,s and they are needed in the midield.The Midfield looks absolutely pedestrian and devoid of class when they are not in there.
Jr 32 for the year the only permanent fwd who kicked a reasonable amount of goals.
Bolton 31 a more a mid and he kicked plenty of those goals as a mid.
Dusty 25 goals same as Bolton
Taranto 19 goals.
Where are the permanent fwds.
In a moon boot till recently
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We were no more inaccurate than most sides. 8 teams kicked more behinds than us leaving us mid table in that category. Surprise surprise we finished mid table.
What is scary is when you look at how many goals our PERMANENT FWDS KICKED.
Only JR kicking any decent amount and he is now retired. A very heavy reliance on mids who go fwd were next, trouble is we dont have two dusty,s or Bolton,s and they are needed in the midield.The Midfield looks absolutely pedestrian and devoid of class when they are not in there.
Jr 32 for the year the only permanent fwd who kicked a reasonable amount of goals.
Bolton 31 a more a mid and he kicked plenty of those goals as a mid.
Dusty 25 goals same as Bolton
Taranto 19 goals.
Where are the permanent fwds.
In a moon boot till recently
That's the worry just one proven permanent fwd. With the retirement of JR we are in exactly the same boat as this year. A huge reliance on one player to kick goals regularly.
Our midfield actually demands we use Martin and Bolton in the midfield most of the time for much needed pace and class along With just about the only prolific big inside ball winner we have in Taranto.
A lot of people blaming poor delivery inside 50 for our woes and while it can be better the real issue are those inside 50 who are not natural fwds knowing where and when to go to make it easy for the mids delivering inside 50.
I actually think if we did not recruit Taranto last year we would have gone very close a spoon this year but that is another topic altogether.
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No claw its the same topic. Without TT we are bottom 2 next year. Imagine an injury to he and a few more to dusty.
Said it many times but the older players are just making up the numbers now till they finish up. We need to find replacements and fast.
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Ok this is going to sound heretical but I don't think it's the list that matters so much. I actually think it's coaching. I think it's what the coaches can get out of your existing list that matters. Of course you do need some talent in the list but all the lists have some talent. The coaches must maximise the results from the players. I hope Yze is relentlessly positive in his outlook, like Fly, and not one of those horrible negative people like Mark Neeld.
I'll give you judgement on Yze once I hear him speak.
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List analysis: Which club has the most goalkicking firepower?
By Dejan Kalinic
afl.com.au
17 December 2023
(https://resources.afl.com.au/photo-resources/2020/11/17/8a4c2df0-2497-41a0-85ac-8cab8feed48a/richmond.jpg?width=1511)
Most goals: Tom Lynch (456)
Players with 100-plus career goals: 4 (Tom Lynch, Dustin Martin, Shai Bolton, Daniel Rioli)
Players with 50-plus goal seasons: 1 (Tom Lynch - 3 times)
Leading goalkicker in 2023: Jack Riewoldt (32)
Average goals kicked in 2023: 11.5 (equal 13th most)
Players with 20-plus goals in 2023: 3 (Jack Riewoldt, Shai Bolton, Dustin Martin)
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No. of players with
100-plus career goals
Collingwood 9
Brisbane, Melbourne 8
Geelong, Greater Western Sydney 6
Carlton, Essendon, Gold Coast, Port Adelaide, St Kilda, Sydney 5
Hawthorn, Richmond, West Coast, Western Bulldogs 4
Adelaide, Fremantle, North Melbourne 3
No. of players who have
kicked 50-plus goals in a season
Essendon, Geelong, Hawthorn, Melbourne 3
Brisbane, Carlton, West Coast 2
Adelaide, Greater Western Sydney, North Melbourne,
Richmond, St Kilda, Western Bulldogs 1
Collingwood, Fremantle, Gold Coast, Port Adelaide, Sydney 0
No. of players who kicked
20-plus goals in 2023
Brisbane, Sydney 7
Adelaide, Melbourne, Port Adelaide 6
Collingwood, Fremantle, Geelong, St Kilda 5
Carlton, Gold Coast, Greater Western Sydney, Western Bulldogs 4
Essendon, North Melbourne, Richmond 3
Hawthorn, West Coast 2
Average goals kicked in 2023
Adelaide 13.9
Brisbane 13.8
Collingwood, Geelong 13.3
Port Adelaide 13.2
Melbourne, Sydney 12.8
Greater Western Sydney 12.7
Western Bulldogs 12.0
Carlton, Fremantle 11.8
Essendon 11.6
Gold Coast, Richmond 11.5
St Kilda 11.3
Hawthorn, North Melbourne 10.6
West Coast 8.9
https://www.afl.com.au/news/1070544/list-analysis-which-club-has-the-most-goalkicking-firepower