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Football => Richmond Rant => Topic started by: one-eyed on April 08, 2023, 08:18:43 PM
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Graham a forced out with that hammy.
Fire away with your changes? :help
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Out: Grimes (omit), McIntosh (omit), Graham (inj)
In: Miller, MRJ, Riewoldt
Baker lucky. (Atrocious foot skills.)
Vlastuin..........Miller..........Young
Sonsie............Balta............Rioli
Pickett...........Martin......Ralphsmith
Cumberland.....Lynch........Bolton
MRJ..............Riewoldt......Mansell
Ryan..............Taranto.......Hopper
Nankervis......Prestia......Baker......Clarke
Sub: Cotchin
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Don’t know why Cotch was named as the emergency. Heavy track, struggles to get to contests on a dry day. Never stays in his feet in the contest, can’t extract and dispose the footy anymore.
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Thought Cotch was solid. As he has been all year.
You wonder why we are lacking in clearances when blokes like him are no longer spending as much time in the middle. Look who is in there most
of the time and how many clearances they are generating...
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I think there is something wrong with the coaching in the middle
We seem too defensive
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INS: Riewoldt, MJR
OUTS: Graham, Mansell
*** has to be a question mark on Lynch. Whether that is due to injury or via Chook Lotto (aka MRO). If he doesn't come up then Miller
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Going by Dimma's presser, Lynch will be touch and go (injury, not suspension) and if Prestia is fit, I'll bare my backside in Bourke St. He's a doubtful I would think.
So I reckon:
Out: Lynch, Prestia, Graham.
In: Riewoldt, MRJ, Cotchin, Ross sub.
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MRJ?
In what universe did he play a good game?
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MRJ?
In what universe did he play a good game?
Cumberland played a stinker the week before he got picked. We need some pressure in the forward line, plus someone who can pick the ball up first time.
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For all the strengths MRJ has at this stage, picking the ball up first time is not one of them. Fumbles the footy with the best of them atm.
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For all the strengths MRJ has at this stage, picking the ball up first time is not one of them. Fumbles the footy with the best of them atm.
100% correct.
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For all the strengths MRJ has at this stage, picking the ball up first time is not one of them. Fumbles the footy with the best of them atm.
Then he'll fit right in with the majority ;D
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What's the feeling on Lynch? Does he get suspended?
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Just watched it again. In 2 minds, certainly doesn't get pushed into it. Bit like a mid air bump in a marking contest. Think he will get suspended. 3 weeks down to 2.
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What's the feeling on Lynch? Does he get suspended?
I think he doesn't hafe a case to answer
But knowing Chook Lotto and how it goes he will probably get 3 weeks
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I think he gets a week. If Ryder gets 2 on Will Day last year. It's a lotto.
MRJ needs to play way better than Mansell.
I'd honestly consider dropping Nank for Biggie. Nank is way off, I don't care that he's captain, we have another anyway.
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Biggie was injured yesterday. Hurt his foot don't think he is an option
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Bugger
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What's the feeling on Lynch? Does he get suspended?
Doesn't matter. He's out long term.
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Jack and Miller in for mine. Miller to play second ruck/forward. Ryan to play FF
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Jack and Miller in for mine. Miller to play second ruck/forward. Ryan to play FF
That is what will likely happen. But play Miller key fwd and keep Ryan in the ruck.
Shame Bradtke got hurt they must be now tempted to throw in a natural kpf.
Would also be tempted to play Miller as the third tall allowing Grimes to go to Heeney.
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Unconfirmed injury list#
Nyuon# - foot. kpd
Gibcus - kpd
Tarrant# - hip kpd
Broad - suspension tall defender
Lynch# - foot kpf
Bradtke# - Finger kpf.
Brown - med defender
Smith - sml defender
Short - Sml mid/def. Could be available this week
Graham# - hammy sml mid
Prestia # - I like a few others think he is in strife with some sort of injury.
Soldo - Ruck
Colina - Ruck.
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A forward line of:
Sonsie/Rioli Cumberland Bolton
Martin Riewoldt Ryan
should still be able to cause some problems for opposition defenders. All is not lost.
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Any one like the idea of Grimes playing his old role on a smaller opponent and becoming the intercept player we know he can.
IMO he would be a good fit for Heeney who is a threat in the air and hard to match up on.
Means Miller playing on one of Amarty McDonald or Franklin, Failing that starting him as a key fwd.
Balta has the athleticism to start on Franklin i think. Young probably goes to McDonald.
Also Like the idea of giving Mansell the job on diver ducker Papley. leaves a Vlastuin Haywood matchup.
Dusty on Parker head to head in the guts. Taranto goes head to head with Mills.
Start on ball with Nankervis Taranto and Bolton.
Maybe start Ralphsmith on McIntoshs wing.
Three pacey skilled small fwds starting in Sonsie, Cumberland, and Clarke. to go with possibly Miller Riewoldt and Ryan as the ruck/fwd.
Just throwing things up any thoughts.
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I think grimes is a bit slow now which is really sad to see. At his best he could run with and was absolutely dominating Charlie Cameron. I actually don’t know who he matches against so he doesn’t get exposed.
You’re on the money with Balta vs Franklin. Balta (round 3 version) would absolutely pants Franklin
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Any one like the idea of Grimes playing his old role on a smaller opponent and becoming the intercept player we know he can.
IMO he would be a good fit for Heeney who is a threat in the air and hard to match up on.
Means Miller playing on one of Amarty McDonald or Franklin, Failing that starting him as a key fwd.
Balta has the athleticism to start on Franklin i think. Young probably goes to McDonald.
Also Like the idea of giving Mansell the job on diver ducker Papley. leaves a Vlastuin Haywood matchup.
Dusty on Parker head to head in the guts. Taranto goes head to head with Mills.
Start on ball with Nankervis Taranto and Bolton.
Maybe start Ralphsmith on McIntoshs wing.
Three pacey skilled small fwds starting in Sonsie, Cumberland, and Clarke. to go with possibly Miller Riewoldt and Ryan as the ruck/fwd.
Just throwing things up any thoughts.
Just on this, i wouldn’t mind playing Pickett as our leading FF leaving Ryan FP as the tall. Pickett plays tall and has the pace on the lead. He also provides a contest in the air and would create a matchup problem for the Swans.
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Sonesie and Cumberland need to play every game. Probably include Clarke there too.
We’re just gonna have to suck it up and have a proper crack. If our intent is there we can still win despite injuries. I know Miller isn’t a forward but he might just have to play there anyway. Id consider dropping Ryan for Miller.. Ryan just doesn’t show enough intent imo.
In: Miller, Ross, Riewoldt
Out: Graham, Lynch, Ryan
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Anyone else heard that meatball and Nank not well.
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Sonesie and Cumberland need to play every game. Probably include Clarke there too.
We’re just gonna have to suck it up and have a proper crack. If our intent is there we can still win despite injuries. I know Miller isn’t a forward but he might just have to play there anyway. Id consider dropping Ryan for Miller.. Ryan just doesn’t show enough intent imo.
In: Miller, Ross, Riewoldt
Out: Graham, Lynch, Ryan
I would still give Ryan more games. The first one he played this year was ok but the next two have been in the wet which doesn't really suit tall forwards Hard to judge on those two games. He also seems to be quite good as a ruck chop out for Nank.
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Out
Graham
Lynch
In
Jack
Cotchin
Someone else to sub
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Nank out medium term now with an ankle injury.
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Blessing in disguise.
Play Ryan and Miller and go smaller in the forward line.
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Balta Grimes Young
Baker Vlastuin Rioli
McIntosh Prestia Ralpsmith
Bolton Riewoldt Mansell
Martin Pickett Ryan
Miller Taranto Hopper
Cumberland Clarke Sonsie Cotchin
M Rioli
This team is capable :shh
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Pickett to full forward with Cumberland on the bench is the most laughable thing I've ever seen.
I'd be more inclined to use Marlion as 2nd ruck this coming week until we find someone at the club who can tap it to a yellow and black shirt
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Pickett to full forward with Cumberland on the bench is the most laughable thing I've ever seen.
I'd be more inclined to use Marlion as 2nd ruck this coming week until we find someone at the club who can tap it to a yellow and black shirt
Ok- the forward line as follows:
Cumberland Cumberland Cumberland
Cumberland Cumberland Cumberland
Happy?
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Soldo out Injured still not even a recognised ruck we have available Colina what's going on with him been Injured all preseason.
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INS: Riewoldt, MJR
OUTS: Graham, Mansell
*** has to be a question mark on Lynch. Whether that is due to injury or via Chook Lotto (aka MRO). If he doesn't come up then Miller
Well better update ;D
INS: Riewoldt, MJR, Miller,
OUTS: Graham, Lynch, Nankervis
SUB: Ross
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With an eye to the future, providing he is right to play, I’d give Biggie a game as second ruck. Ryan moves up to main man, Miller as sub for some extra cover ….
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With an eye to the future, providing he is right to play, I’d give Biggie a game as second ruck. Ryan moves up to main man, Miller as sub for some extra cover ….
Biggie is injured.
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Soldo out Injured still not even a recognised ruck we have available Colina what's going on with him been Injured all preseason.
Colina has had a back complaint since the beginning of preseason. He's hardly trained for at least the past six months. Given he's still got a lot to learn to play the game at VFL level let alone play at AFL level, Mate sadly looks like becoming a category B rookie write off.
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Out
Graham
Lynch
In
Jack
Cotchin
Someone else to sub
Well let's make that:
Out
Graham
Lynch
Nank
Any hope of success in 2023
In
Jack
Cotchin
Miller
Someone else to sub
A high draft pick (oh wait we don't have one)
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Pickett to full forward with Cumberland on the bench is the most laughable thing I've ever seen.
I'd be more inclined to use Marlion as 2nd ruck this coming week until we find someone at the club who can tap it to a yellow and black shirt
Ok- the forward line as follows:
Cumberland Cumberland Cumberland
Cumberland Cumberland Cumberland
Happy?
6 forwards is a start. First good idea you’ve ever had right here
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:lol
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Well better update ;D
INS: Riewoldt, MJR, Miller
OUTS: Graham, Lynch, Nankervis
SUB: Ross
Agree WP. That's the way I think we will go as well.
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INS: Riewoldt, MJR
OUTS: Graham, Mansell
*** has to be a question mark on Lynch. Whether that is due to injury or via Chook Lotto (aka MRO). If he doesn't come up then Miller
Well better update ;D
INS: Riewoldt, MJR, Miller,
OUTS: Graham, Lynch, Nankervis
SUB: Ross
Agree but hoping Dow is the sub. Dow is fit to play according to website.
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We have enough quality in the team to beat Sydney. Their FB and CHB will both be out so a small forward line is not so much of an issue.
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B: Balta Grimes Young
HB: Baker Vlastuin Rioli
C McIntosh Prestia Pickett
HB: Bolton Martin Cumberland
HF: Mansell Riewoldt Rioli
F: Ryan Taranto Hopper
Into: Hugo Clarke Sonsie Cotchin
Sub Ross
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What a fantastic opportunity to play one of our young tall fwds alongside JR.
Would love to see them play Bradtke ready or not. with Ryan having to ruck by himself id be play Miller as the stuff giving Ryan a good chop out.
Would be over the moon to see a fwd set up of
HF Sonsie - Bradtke - Cumberland
FF Miller - Riewoldt - Clarke
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What a fantastic opportunity to play one of our young tall fwds alongside JR.
Would love to see them play Bradtke ready or not. with Ryan having to ruck by himself id be play Miller as the stuff giving Ryan a good chop out.
Would be over the moon to see a fwd set up of
HF Sonsie - Bradtke - Cumberland
FF Miller - Riewoldt - Clarke
Bradtke had surgery to his broken hand so out for a while. Will have to Bauer.
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What a fantastic opportunity to play one of our young tall fwds alongside JR.
Would love to see them play Bradtke ready or not. with Ryan having to ruck by himself id be play Miller as the stuff giving Ryan a good chop out.
Would be over the moon to see a fwd set up of
HF Sonsie - Bradtke - Cumberland
FF Miller - Riewoldt - Clarke
Bradtke had surgery to his broken hand so out for a while. Will have to Bauer.
Could be good to have Bauer mentored by Jack. Might become more of a team player.
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What a fantastic opportunity to play one of our young tall fwds alongside JR.
Would love to see them play Bradtke ready or not. with Ryan having to ruck by himself id be play Miller as the stuff giving Ryan a good chop out.
Would be over the moon to see a fwd set up of
HF Sonsie - Bradtke - Cumberland
FF Miller - Riewoldt - Clarke
Bradtke had surgery to his broken hand so out for a while. Will have to Bauer.
Could be good to have Bauer mentored by Jack. Might become more of a team player.
Ah, so Bauer isn't a team player at the moment.
You heard it here first.
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What a fantastic opportunity to play one of our young tall fwds alongside JR.
Would love to see them play Bradtke ready or not. with Ryan having to ruck by himself id be play Miller as the stuff giving Ryan a good chop out.
Would be over the moon to see a fwd set up of
HF Sonsie - Bradtke - Cumberland
FF Miller - Riewoldt - Clarke
Bradtke had surgery to his broken hand so out for a while. Will have to Bauer.
Ah shiikes i thought it was just a dislocated finger.
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Could be good to have Bauer mentored by Jack. Might become more of a team player.
And you say Bauer isn't a team player because?
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Could be good to have Bauer mentored by Jack. Might become more of a team player.
And you say Bauer isn't a team player because?
Watch last weeks VFL match.
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Could be good to have Bauer mentored by Jack. Might become more of a team player.
And you say Bauer isn't a team player because?
Did not say he isn't a team player FFS.
I said he might become more of a team player. Lots to learn from someone like Jack R
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Lots of our talls injured.
Not sure how people view Ryan but imo he is first and foremost a ruckman. I know the club view him as a fwd first second ruck and imo that is wrong. he does not have the speed or agility for a fwd.
He still lacks physically imo and thats why he gets to play fwd and second ruck ATM.
For mine at 206/103 he is the logical player to take over from Nankervis given the injuries. He does need a back up though crazy to expect him to carry the ruck on his own at this stage of development enter Miller.
Bauer given all other tall fwds are injured not that we have many anyway i would just throw into the deep end for a few weeks and see what sort of return we get. Nothing to lose now.
Team this week to go something like this
Vlastuin - Young - Grimes
Mansell - Balta - Rioli
Ralphsmith - Martin - Pickett
Ryan - Taranto - Bolton
Sonsie - Riewoldt - Cumberland
Miller - Bauer - Clarke
Cotchin - Hopper - Prestia - Baker - McIntosh
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Could be good to have Bauer mentored by Jack. Might become more of a team player.
And you say Bauer isn't a team player because?
Did not say he isn't a team player FFS.
I said he might become more of a team player. Lots to learn from someone like Jack R
We saw what you wrote. There is no credibility to it :shh
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Given the swans will be missing both McCartin brothers as well as both Buddy and Reid, wouldn’t be against lining up smaller for Friday night.
In the fwd line, Jack as FF and Dusty/Cumbo as the CHF. Ryan can rotate through there when given a spell from ruck duties.
In the back line just roll with the same guys in Balta, Young and Grimes.
Would probably include Miller as a utility to just help out on whatever line is needed - ruck, def, fwd.
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Team Tips:
Two big injury blows to Tom Lynch and Toby Nankervis leave key voids at the Tigers, while Jack Graham suffered hamstring setback, too. Jack Riewoldt and Trent Cotchin should come straight back in, while Jayden Short is still at least another week away with a calf issue.Richmond is likely to turn to Ben Miller, who had 14 disposals, one goal and 32 hit-outs in the VFL,for ruck/key forward support alongside Samson Ryan.
https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/afl-news-2023-round-5-team-tips-squads-predictions-ins-and-outs-injuries-dropped-players-supercoach/news-story/1b769d6833373e55f3e85b785e52f4d6
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Any OERites keen to strap on the boots? :-\
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The injury ravaged Tigers have 15 players on their injury list and face the prospect this week of having no Richmond-listed player playing in their VFL team.
There are presently likely to be four fit players outside the starting 22 selected to take on Sydney on Friday night in Adelaide.
The AFL team would typically take four travelling emergencies for an interstate game and with the Richmond VFL side playing at the same time as the AFL team the Tigers might not have any players left for their VFL team which will be fully reliant on top up players. There might be one AFL player at best.
Jack Riewoldt, who was rested from the weekend’s loss, will come straight back in at full-forward to replace Lynch.
Maurice Rioli jnr is likely to make a quick return to the senior team after being dropped last week. Jack Ross and Thomson Dow have had reasonable form in the VFL and will be in contention to be picked.
With Nankervis out, the Tigers will look at a range of options from 206cm stuff Samson Ryan the obvious first choice. But Richmond have always been inventive with their rucks, with Marlion Pickett often being used as a second ruck.
Ben Miller and Noah Balta have both been used in the ruck in the past as well.
Key backman Josh Gibcus is closing on a return to playing, possibly after the Melbourne game in round six, but given he has not played football it would be a question of how soon he is brought into the senior team.
Nathan Broad is two weeks into his four match ban for a sling tackle so will be available after the Melbourne game.
Source: The Age (https://www.theage.com.au/sport/afl/worse-than-feared-tom-lynch-out-for-up-to-12-weeks-buddy-franklin-to-miss-tigers-clash-20230411-p5czlh.html)
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Given the swans will be missing both McCartin brothers as well as both Buddy and Reid, wouldn’t be against lining up smaller for Friday night.
In the fwd line, Jack as FF and Dusty/Cumbo as the CHF. Ryan can rotate through there when given a spell from ruck duties.
In the back line just roll with the same guys in Balta, Young and Grimes.
Would probably include Miller as a utility to just help out on whatever line is needed - ruck, def, fwd.
We lose just Lynchy and look at where it leaves us. What an opportunity this week at least to get games into our younger talls in Ryan ruck, Miller stuff and say young Bauer high fwd against a team lacking tall defenders.
We complain about a dearth of tall forwards and the lack of games they have yet a genuine opportunity comes to give em a go and no lets play small. Fair dinkum are we that short sighted.It seems there will never be a right time to play some players and stick to our structure while we are at it.
At some stage we just have to play as many kids as we can with enough good players around them they may just surprise people.
Bauer has kicked goals is a reasonable size 192cm a strong mark, quick on the lead athletic there is nothing to lose by playing him.
Most likely he play against a sydney second stringer who would not normally get a game.
Seems logical to me if they are now lacking size and height in their defensive half exploit it. Most of all at least try and stick to our preffered structure of two tall fwds and a stuff.
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Hear hear clawski.
Would love to see exactly that setup of talls but what's the best we just play a small forward line. They'll come up with something about too many changes to F50
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About 60,000 fans will travel across the border from rival states including 20,000 from Victoria with Carlton fans having bought the most tickets of non-SA fans ahead of Collingwood, Geelong and Richmond.
https://www.codesports.com.au/afl/afl-2023-all-the-latest-news-ahead-of-gather-round/news-story/d8b0980e359e2a10551583dd212c4c5e
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In the Mix: Round 5
Martin Smith
afl.com.au
12 April 2023
(https://resources.afl.com.au/photo-resources/2020/11/17/8a4c2df0-2497-41a0-85ac-8cab8feed48a/richmond.jpg?width=952)
Richmond will be forced to make even more changes this weekend after its horror run of injuries continued on Saturday. Jack Riewoldt will be back to lead the forward line in the absence of Tom Lynch, Jack Ross continued his good form in the VFL and could be the man to replace Jack Graham, while Richmond's talls crisis should see Ben Miller return in place of injured co-captain Toby Nankervis. Trent Cotchin, who was the sub against the Bulldogs, could come back into the 22, while Maurice Rioli managed just seven touches in the VFL after being dropped from the senior side. In addition to the absence of Lynch and Nankervis, Robbie Tarrant, Ivan Soldo and rookies Bigoa Nyuon and Kaelan Bradtke are all injured, meaning Damien Hardwick's tall stocks are stretched thin.
https://www.afl.com.au/news/901214/in-the-mix-r5-who-s-under-the-pump-pushing-for-selection-
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Bauer trained with the backs today as did Balta. So, it doesn't look like we're going to try anything new on the key forward front this week.
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I don't understand why players are recruited because they excel in a certain position, only for us to then try to turn them into something else - like this backline business with Bauer.
Can somebody more footy savvy explain it to me, please?
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I don't understand why players are recruited because they excel in a certain position, only for us to then try to turn them into something else - like this backline business with Bauer.
Can somebody more footy savvy explain it to me, please?
Needs to work on his defensive pressure :rollin
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I don't understand why players are recruited because they excel in a certain position, only for us to then try to turn them into something else - like this backline business with Bauer.
Can somebody more footy savvy explain it to me, please?
He got called out by the coach after the Coburg game about needing to get involved more. Played behind the ball on Saturday vs the Doggies and was way more involved. Attacked the ball and delivered well to the forward line.
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I don't understand why players are recruited because they excel in a certain position, only for us to then try to turn them into something else - like this backline business with Bauer.
Can somebody more footy savvy explain it to me, please?
He got called out by the coach after the Coburg game about needing to get involved more. Played behind the ball on Saturday vs the Doggies and was way more involved. Attacked the ball and delivered well to the forward line.
Could he be a replacement for an aging Grimes and or Broad?
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I don't understand why players are recruited because they excel in a certain position, only for us to then try to turn them into something else - like this backline business with Bauer.
Can somebody more footy savvy explain it to me, please?
He got called out by the coach after the Coburg game about needing to get involved more. Played behind the ball on Saturday vs the Doggies and was way more involved. Attacked the ball and delivered well to the forward line.
Could he be a replacement for an aging Grimes and or Broad?
The way he played on Saturday, possibly. He's actually good 1 on 1 and strong defensively.
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Miller on the flight with the team.
https://twitter.com/Richmond_FC/status/1646350211458166786
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Maurice there too at the Captain's Run in Glenelg.
https://twitter.com/Richmond_FC/status/1646402002409369601
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Ross over there training as well.
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FtlBQHMaIAAdFxa?format=jpg&name=medium)
https://twitter.com/Richmond_FC/status/1646418894536704005
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Dimma said Samson and Miller are playing ruck (Dimma said 1st ruck after mentioning Miller).
Jack and Cotch in too.
Balta won't play forward. Tried that experiment and we now like him down back.