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Title: Official R6 team vs Demons
Post by: one-eyed on April 20, 2023, 07:45:20 PM
In: Ross, Short, Bauer

No outs yet.

Maurice into the starting 18.

https://twitter.com/Richmond_FC/status/1648964993235435520
Title: Re: Official R6 team vs Demons
Post by: one-eyed on April 20, 2023, 07:47:14 PM
RICHMOND

B: N.Balta          D.Grimes          T.Young

HB: L.Baker       N.Vlastuin          D.Rioli

C: K.McIntosh    T.Taranto          M.Pickett

HF: M.Rioli         D.Martin           R.Mansell

F:   B.Miller     N.Cumberland      J.Riewoldt

R:  S.Ryan     S.Bolton        J.Hopper

I/C (FROM): J.Short, D.Prestia, T.Cotchin, J.Clarke, T.Sonsie, H.Ralphsmith, J.Bauer, J.Ross



Richmond will confirm its Round 6 team on Saturday night at 5.00pm AEST.

The Club will then name its substitute 60 minutes prior to the first bounce on Monday.

https://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/1312032
Title: Re: Official R6 team vs Demons
Post by: mightytiges on April 20, 2023, 08:18:54 PM
Prestia and Cotch both named on the extended bench. To be rested so they are fresh for more winnable games against the Suns & Eagles?

Title: Re: Official R6 team vs Demons
Post by: lamington on April 20, 2023, 08:26:39 PM
Wait isn’t broads suspension over? What’s up with that?
Title: Re: Official R6 team vs Demons
Post by: mightytiges on April 20, 2023, 08:30:22 PM
Wait isn’t broads suspension over? What’s up with that?
Broady's got one more week. Back for the Suns game.
Title: Re: Official R6 team vs Demons
Post by: one-eyed on April 20, 2023, 08:31:17 PM
Melbourne's team for those interested.

B: H.Petty, S.May, T.Rivers

HB: K.Chandler, J.Lever, E.Langdon

C: A.Brayshaw, C.Oliver, L.Hunter

HF: J.McVee, T.McDonald, A.Neal-Bullen

F: K.Pickett, J.van Rooyen, B.Fritsch

FOLL: M.Gawn - C, J.Viney, C.Petracca

I/C (FROM): B.Grundy, M.Hibberd, B.Laurie, J.Bowey, J.Jordon, L.Dunstan, T.Sparrow, D.Turner



IN: J.Lever, M.Gawn, M.Hibberd, B.Laurie, L.Dunstan, D.Turner

OUT: A.Tomlinson, J.Melksham (both omitted), C.Spargo (injured)

https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/afl-teams-round-6-2023-team-news-lineups-full-squads-ins-and-outs-changes-injuries-fixture-games-latest/news-story/893a7eebb24566babe9fc8860fc64322
Title: Re: Official R6 team vs Demons
Post by: WilliamPowell on April 21, 2023, 08:28:50 AM
Normally excited for this game. But after the last few weeks I'm a bit numb to it all.

Hope Bauer gets his chance but doubt he will
Title: Re: Official R6 team vs Demons
Post by: the claw on April 22, 2023, 09:35:31 AM
No idea of who is still injured

B Grimes - Young - Vlastuin . Grimes and Vlastuin on short notice.
HB Mansell - Balta - Rioli.. If MRJ is playing fwd then we dont need another pure negating fwd in mansell. Pop him back to his natural position.

C  Pickett - Martin - Banks.
R  Ryan - Taranto - Sonsie.

HF  Clarke - Riewoldt - Cumberland. Went Clarke instead of MRJ
F  Bolton - Bauer - Miller.  Gotta play with structure with Bauer. Miller provides cover in defnse if needed against Gawn or Grundy plus the stuff role.

Hopper - Baker - McIntosh - Cotchin - Prestia.

Just like the balance with seven of the youngish blokes Bauer, Miller, Clarke, Cumberland, Banks, Sonsie, Ryan who dont have a lot of games to their name with a good mix of senior players around them.

Plenty of natural fwds and plenty of natural defenders  plenty of mids with good height and size thru the team.
Title: Re: Official R6 team vs Demons
Post by: WilliamPowell on April 22, 2023, 01:15:00 PM
If Bauer plays it won't be as a forward, he would start as a defender IMHO

But cannot see him getting a game
Title: Re: Official R6 team vs Demons
Post by: the claw on April 22, 2023, 05:19:28 PM
That is typical of the club. Bereft of tall fwds plenty of tall defenders but hey lets play one of the only two tall fwds we have in defense.
Why aren't people sick to death of this kind of thing. Yet the silence is deathening.
Title: Re: Official R6 team vs Demons
Post by: TigerLand on April 22, 2023, 05:26:14 PM
Sonsie dropped is ridiculous
Title: Re: Official R6 team vs Demons
Post by: TigerLand on April 22, 2023, 05:32:55 PM
So Hugo or Sonsie will be sub. I personally think Cotch should be sub every game. I can't think of a better sub, injct some leadership and wisdom when things get close.

Put Rioli on ground in Cotch half forward role and put Sonsie on bench.

Hate to agree with Cornes that cotch won't hurt the scoreboard. Forward pressure is important but not at the expense of putting goals on the scoreboard. We are bottom 4 for points scored and this is why.

Miller Riewoldt Cumberland
Cotchin Martin Mansell

Is not a forwarding that suggests goals. Appreciate Lynch is out but it's just not been developed good enough. Especially when our midfield doesn't kick enough goals apart from Bolton. Graham back in here doesn't solve the issue either.
Title: Re: Official R6 team vs Demons
Post by: PoppyTige on April 22, 2023, 05:42:14 PM
That is typical of the club. Bereft of tall fwds plenty of tall defenders but hey lets play one of the only two tall fwds we have in defense.
Why aren't people sick to death of this kind of thing? Yet the silence is deafening.

I was carrying on about it right here the other day. But I'm a newbie, so haven't got much voice yet. ;)
Title: Re: Official R6 team vs Demons
Post by: georgies31 on April 22, 2023, 06:05:32 PM
Puzzling with Sonsie  :banghead.Make the young players the scapegoat for poor team performance. Last chance saloon for some serial experienced undeperformers .
Title: Re: Official R6 team vs Demons
Post by: HKTigerB on April 22, 2023, 06:27:16 PM
That is typical of the club. Bereft of tall fwds plenty of tall defenders but hey lets play one of the only two tall fwds we have in defense.
Why aren't people sick to death of this kind of thing? Yet the silence is deafening.

I was carrying on about it right here the other day. But I'm a newbie, so haven't got much voice yet. ;)
Bauer played his junior career as a back.  Played one season (SANFL and VFL - 2022) as a forward.  Started 2023 as a forward and was not getting involved enough.  An issue that raised itself over summer.  Which was raised by Dimma.  He has now been moved back and is getting way more involved and with his good kicking is helping set us up.
Title: Re: Official R6 team vs Demons
Post by: TigerLand on April 22, 2023, 07:10:25 PM
That is typical of the club. Bereft of tall fwds plenty of tall defenders but hey lets play one of the only two tall fwds we have in defense.
Why aren't people sick to death of this kind of thing. Yet the silence is deathening.

Are you referring to Balta?

I think it's important for him to develop as a defender. We did this last year and it didn't work. He needs to string a few seasons together as a key back.
Title: Re: Official R6 team vs Demons
Post by: Tigeritis™©® on April 22, 2023, 08:41:43 PM
That is typical of the club. Bereft of tall fwds plenty of tall defenders but hey lets play one of the only two tall fwds we have in defense.
Why aren't people sick to death of this kind of thing. Yet the silence is deathening.

Are you referring to Balta?

I think it's important for him to develop as a defender. We did this last year and it didn't work. He needs to string a few seasons together as a key back.

Balta has an enormous amount of attributes but he is just not a smart football player. He clearly doesn’t have natural footy smarts and so IMHO will make a terrible forward.

Keep him in defence and once he finally matures and learns the game (and the rules) he might be able to make a late transition but hopefully we will not ever need him up forward. At this stage of his development he clearly still needs simple commands and cartoon pictures that help him understand the game and his role in it. 
We really should be looking to developing natural young smart forward players either from another club or from the draft that will be with us for the next 10 years.

 
Title: Re: Official R6 team vs Demons
Post by: camboon on April 22, 2023, 09:01:06 PM
He may be referring to Bauer
Title: Re: Official R6 team vs Demons
Post by: torch on April 22, 2023, 09:09:02 PM
why would you drop Sonsie?
Title: Re: Official R6 team vs Demons
Post by: one-eyed on April 22, 2023, 09:18:51 PM
In: Jayden Short
Out: Hugo Ralphsmith (omitted), Tyler Sonsie (omitted)

RICHMOND

B:     Tylar Young       Dylan Grimes         Noah Balta

HB:  Daniel Rioli          Nick Vlastuin       Jayden Short

C: Kamdyn McIntosh    Tim Taranto        Marlion Pickett

HF:  Trent Cotchin       Dustin Martin       Rhyan Mansell

F:     Ben Miller       Noah Cumberland      Jack Riewoldt

R:   Samson Ryan       Jacob Hopper           Shai Bolton

Int:  Liam Baker        Dion Prestia         Judson Clarke        Maurice Rioli

 
Emg:   Tyler Sonsie      Jack Ross      Jacob Bauer        Hugo Ralphsmith

The Tigers will confirm which player steps into the 23 to be the substitute 60 minutes before the opening bounce.

https://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/1313279/short-returns-for-anzac-day-eve
Title: Re: Official R6 team vs Demons
Post by: one-eyed on April 22, 2023, 09:19:48 PM
Ross and Bauer are named in our VFL team. So presumably, the sub will be either Sonsie or Hugo.
Title: Re: Official R6 team vs Demons
Post by: Andyy on April 22, 2023, 11:21:22 PM
I hope sonsie is the sub.

Kid looks like class every time
Title: Re: Official R6 team vs Demons
Post by: one-eyed on April 23, 2023, 03:33:21 AM
Melbourne's finalised team for those interested.

IN: J.Lever, M.Gawn, M.Hibberd

OUT: A.Tomlinson (omitted), J.Melksham (omitted), C.Spargo (injured), T.McDonald (omitted)

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B: H.Petty, S.May, T.Rivers

HB: K.Chandler, J.Lever, E.Langdon

C: A.Brayshaw, C.Oliver, L.Hunter

HF: J.McVee, B.Grundy, A.Neal-Bullen

F: K.Pickett, J.van Rooyen, B.Fritsch

FOLL: M.Gawn – C, J.Viney, C.Petracca

I/C: M.Hibberd, J.Bowey, J.Jordon, T.Sparrow


EMG: Laurie, Schache, Dunstan, D.Turner.

https://www.codesports.com.au/afl/afl-round-6-teams-news-max-gawn-and-jayden-short-return-for-monday-nights-clash/news-story/479daf3e130410c3f028951d1cbda81d
Title: Re: Official R6 team vs Demons
Post by: mightytiges on April 23, 2023, 03:44:49 AM
why would you drop Sonsie?
Because the MC brought Sonsie in in the first place as a "forward" rather than as a mid. So, as a small "forward" he makes way for Maurice. Likewise, Hugo being dropped is a supposed like-for-like for Short returning.
Title: Re: Official R6 team vs Demons
Post by: MintOnLamb on April 23, 2023, 04:05:14 AM
Cotchin out, Sonsie in as sub as early as possible
Title: Re: Official R6 team vs Demons
Post by: the claw on April 23, 2023, 08:39:24 PM
That is typical of the club. Bereft of tall fwds plenty of tall defenders but hey lets play one of the only two tall fwds we have in defense.
Why aren't people sick to death of this kind of thing? Yet the silence is deafening.

I was carrying on about it right here the other day. But I'm a newbie, so haven't got much voice yet. ;)
Bauer played his junior career as a back.  Played one season (SANFL and VFL - 2022) as a forward.  Started 2023 as a forward and was not getting involved enough.  An issue that raised itself over summer.  Which was raised by Dimma.  He has now been moved back and is getting way more involved and with his good kicking is helping set us up.

Oh cmon that is stretching it. He was drafted as a tall fwd because we had none and  based on his sanfl and vfl form as a fwd.

Fwds in a lot of games struggle to impact in lots of games. It happens.

Yes he has showed he can play back as well as fwd but we don't need tall defenders we DESPERATELY need to play and develop what young genuine tall fwds we have in the fwd line. And make no mistake he has looked promising as a fwd.

I understand this week we have a crippling run of injuries to both our tall defenders and two tall fwds. Not helped by the injury to another young tall defender in el nour today. So they played him in defence in recent weeks because of this. I get it but imo  it is a mistake . Players will come back from injuries and then we have no tall fwds even in the vfl that have played there.

We just have to look past this week and take a proper view of the long term.

Would not have hesitated to play young Jacob as a tall fwd this week in the seniors because the situation demands it its something that should happen for the good of the list and team.
Although going by his game in defence today you would not think so.

Gunna say i for one because i advocated we take him so strongly will be looking closely at Jacob Van Rooyen tommorrow.
Title: Re: Official R6 team vs Demons
Post by: the claw on April 23, 2023, 08:41:59 PM
why would you drop Sonsie?

Ah this as well why would you. As usual old favorites dont have to account for bad games and the kids cop it in the neck.

Sonsie should play on ball this week as  a big part of midfield rotations.
Title: Re: Official R6 team vs Demons
Post by: one-eyed on April 24, 2023, 06:34:19 PM
Hugo is the sub.

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No late changes for #AFLDeesTigers.

Substitutes:
@melbournefc - Bailey Laurie
@Richmond_FC - Hugo Ralphsmith

https://twitter.com/AFL/status/1650416875942326272
Title: Re: Official R6 team vs Demons
Post by: eliminator on April 24, 2023, 06:36:09 PM
Sonsie should have been the sub. Poor selection.
Title: Re: Official R6 team vs Demons
Post by: FooffooValve on April 24, 2023, 07:15:17 PM
Sonsie should have been the sub. Poor selection.

HRS leads Sonsie on just about every stat you care to name. Sonsie hasn't exactly been setting the world on fire, though he perhaps has more 'potential'. But, as they say, potential + $4.50 still equals a flat white.
Title: Re: Official R6 team vs Demons
Post by: mightytiges on April 24, 2023, 11:27:31 PM
Most were poor the previous week. Sonsie is/will be a ballwinner (even Ross is for that matter). Playing all three of Clarke, Mansell and Hugo ahead of them against Melbourne with their bigger bodies in the contest was an odd call.

Subbing Miller off when we were short across the park as it was, was another perplexing decision.

Title: Re: Official R6 team vs Demons
Post by: TigerLand on April 24, 2023, 11:35:26 PM
Agree MT. I though Mansell needed to be subbed. Or in hindsight Maurice who looked gassed in 3rd qtr.