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AFL Round 19
RICHMOND vs Hawthorn
Saturday, 22nd July @ the M.C.G.
Start time: 1:45 pm
Odds (Sportsbet):
Richmond $1.35
Hawthorn $3.23
https://www.afl.com.au/afl/matches/4943
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Straight up having gone to the tiges v eagles game im tipping the Hawks.
The simple fact is we no longer dominate sides and even games against cellar dwellars are troublesome.
Fmd our two biggest wins are against wce twice and while most other good sides were thumping them we can only win by 46 and 38 points.
We are yet to play NM and i shudder to think of the reaction if we manage to lose to them.
Ok a different perspective. We lose 5 in a row and look horrible but aint timing everything we get the most depleted side in the comp if not history injury wise in the eagles and can only win by 46 points.
We then get Geelong at home who are also reeling from injury and manage a win. Yep timing aint it grand.
Then a dream time loss followed by what i would call a very good effort against port at home. so far we aint beating too many teams that arent injured or above us.
We then beat GWS in a game that could have gone either way. Then Fremantle in Perth which was not great given where the dockers are now.
Then a win against StKilda as they hit a bad patch. Then finally we hit a top 4 team with out injury and we get belted.
Coming off this back to timing. We then get Sydney at home a team who had also been struggling with injuries and it was on the line with less than two minutes remaining.
Then lucky us we get the eagles again and yep we struggle and cannot get a much needed big percentage boost.
Now before everyone carries on like pork chops as usual, im playing devils advocate here and just giving the other perspective.
Yes our 5 game losing streak coincided with injuries but fmd our fwd line has become a laughing stock with just the loss of one player.
That has to tell supporters that all is not well surely.
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I think your assessment of our wins is poor.
Beating Geelong is never easy.
GWS are a good team under Kingsley. That's was a tough win on the road against a competitive side.
Freo not as tough but on the road second game in a row too.
Saints are top 6 and although they choke they're definitely not worse than us IMO.
Swans yeah they're not great either but hardly cellar dwellers too, more of a 10-14 side I think.
The port loss was close and the only hiding we've got was from Brisbane at the Gabba, fit and healthy and always wanting to prove a point to us.
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Straight up having gone to the tiges v eagles game im tipping the Hawks.
We will win
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Straight up having gone to the tiges v eagles game im tipping the Hawks.
The simple fact is we no longer dominate sides and even games against cellar dwellars are troublesome.
Fmd our two biggest wins are against wce twice and while most other good sides were thumping them we can only win by 46 and 38 points.
We are yet to play NM and i shudder to think of the reaction if we manage to lose to them.
Ok a different perspective. We lose 5 in a row and look horrible but aint timing everything we get the most depleted side in the comp if not history injury wise in the eagles and can only win by 46 points.
We then get Geelong at home who are also reeling from injury and manage a win. Yep timing aint it grand.
Then a dream time loss followed by what i would call a very good effort against port at home. so far we aint beating too many teams that arent injured or above us.
We then beat GWS in a game that could have gone either way. Then Fremantle in Perth which was not great given where the dockers are now.
Then a win against StKilda as they hit a bad patch. Then finally we hit a top 4 team with out injury and we get belted.
Coming off this back to timing. We then get Sydney at home a team who had also been struggling with injuries and it was on the line with less than two minutes remaining.
Then lucky us we get the eagles again and yep we struggle and cannot get a much needed big percentage boost.
Now before everyone carries on like pork chops as usual, im playing devils advocate here and just giving the other perspective.
Yes our 5 game losing streak coincided with injuries but fmd our fwd line has become a laughing stock with just the loss of one player.
That has to tell supporters that all is not well surely.
Have a look at the Hawks/North game, it was no great game of football either. North were insipid.
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I think your assessment of our wins is poor.
Beating Geelong is never easy.
GWS are a good team under Kingsley. That's was a tough win on the road against a competitive side.
Freo not as tough but on the road second game in a row too.
Saints are top 6 and although they choke they're definitely not worse than us IMO.
Swans yeah they're not great either but hardly cellar dwellers too, more of a 10-14 side I think.
The port loss was close and the only hiding we've got was from Brisbane at the Gabba, fit and healthy and always wanting to prove a point to us.
WC were only missing Yeo, Liam Ryan and a 33 year-old Nic Nat. Hardly depleted. out of form. for sure but hardly a second string
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Collingwood only beat the eagles by 60 . Game was tight at 3 quarter time . It’s a folly to assess wins by margin .
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Straight up having gone to the tiges v eagles game im tipping the Hawks.
No need to state this. We all know you will be tipping/barracking for the opposition every week.
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Straight up gone to the Hawks.
e.f.a. :shh
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Straight up having gone to the tiges v eagles game im tipping the Hawks.
We will win
I think he should do the old Louy the Lip dare “if the tigers win, I’ll belt myself in the face with my flogger”
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Whilst finals are well and truly out of the question for Hawthorn, Richmond coach Andrew McQualter didn't doubt how competitive his upcoming opponents can be.
"We know that their best footy can be really, really dangerous. They can be fast and attack, they defend really well. So that's what we're preparing for," McQualter told reporters at Punt Road on Thursday.
"We think we've got lots of room to grow, so we're enjoying the challenge at the moment. We're still conceding too many entries against us."
https://www.zerohanger.com/richmond-aware-of-hawthorn-threat-as-mitchell-eyes-perfect-opportunity-to-impact-finals-race-140114/
Hawthorn coach Sam Mitchell is eager for his team to "take a chunk" out of its higher-placed rivals during the final six rounds, and Richmond is first on the hit list.
"Richmond is a perfect opportunity for us to see if we can start to beat some teams who are in front of us on the ladder."
https://www.afl.com.au/news/982707/hawks-targeting-bigger-scalps-in-tough-run-home
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Richmond v Hawthorn Preview
Andrew Slevison
SEN
20 July 2023
Despite winning five of seven under caretaker coach Andrew McQualter, Richmond has entered ‘must-win’ territory this season.
The Tigers, who sit 11th on the ladder and two points outside the eight, were made to work hard for their 38-point victory over West Coast in Perth last weekend.
They take on Hawthorn who occupies 16th position on the back of an inaccurate 48-point win over North Melbourne having dropped their previous three matches.
Richmond has seen an uptick in form from the likes of Dustin Martin, Shai Bolton and Dion Prestia over the last month with the likes of Tim Taranto, Dan Rioli, Nick Vlastuin and Liam Baker keeping on as their most consistent performers.
Sam Mitchell’s Hawks have been served well by their improving midfield unit consisting of Jai Newcombe, James Worpel, Will Day and Conor Nash, while Karl Amon has also found form of late. They will get Rising Star nominee Seamus Mitchell back for this.
Noah Balta appears a good matchup for the dangerous Mitch Lewis down one end, while Luke Breust is a constant source of goals for the Hawks and will draw a decent defender in the form of Dylan Grimes or Nathan Broad.
At the other end, the Tigers have not been reliant on a particular forward by frequently sharing the load and having midfielders get in on the goal kicking act.
With more on the line, their stars in good form and a better head to head record of late (winning three of the last four including a draw), the Tigers have enough in their favour to see off the Hawks in Saturday’s first game.
But it won’t be easy.
Tip: Richmond by 14 points.
https://www.sen.com.au/news/2023/07/20/who-will-win-and-why-the-predictions-and-tips-for-round-19-1/
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Hawthorn consider Finn Maginness for Dustin Martin tag
https://www.perthnow.com.au/sport/afl/hawthorn-consider-finn-maginness-for-dustin-martin-tag-c-11346717
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THE CERTAINTIES FOR ROUND 19
Andrew Slevison
SEN
22 July 2023
Richmond versus Hawthorn
Martin to have 20+ disposals, kick 1+ goal
Dustin Martin has a nice record against Hawthorn over the years.
Over 14 career games against the Hawks, he has averaged 27 disposals and kicked 13.10.
In his last four outings, ‘Dusty’ has been showing signs of his very best. He has averaged 29 touches and kicked 3.5 in that time.
We’re backing the 32-year-old to gather at least 20 disposals and kick at least one goal this weekend.
Breust to kick 2+ goals
Luke Breust always seems to bob up against Richmond.
He has kicked 11.5 in his last five outings against the Tigers and has a career tally of 30.9 in 14 games.
The 32-year-old has kicked 31 goals this year at an average of more than two per game, leading the way for the Hawks.
Breust has booted two or more in nine of 15 games this year and looks primed to return at least a pair at the MCG on Saturday afternoon.
https://www.sen.com.au/news/2023/07/22/the-16-certainties-for-the-rest-of-round-19-1/
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NO LATE CHANGES
SUBSTITUTES
Richmond: Matthew Coulthard
Hawthorn: Ned Long
https://www.afl.com.au/news/982388/final-teams-locked-in-for-tigers-hawks-live-from-1-45pm-aest
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Clean gather by Baker at pace but Graham butchers the shot.
1 - 0
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Great goal saving chase by Rioli.
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LOL @ being called deliberate ::)
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We may not kick a goal today playing like this.
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Sicily already a problem. Maybe move vlastuin fwd to atleast keep siciliy from intercepting everything.
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No pressure so far. We're just bombing it towards Jack and allowing the Hawks to just rebound through the corridor. Our team defence is in no man's land. Not pressing up nor falling back.
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Kmac to Jack to Graham. Set shot goal :gotigers
Rich 1.1-7
Haw 1.2-8
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Damn
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Wingard the hack has had 8 disposals. Same with Gaff last week.
Zero pressure out there.
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The Hawks are more desperate so far.
They had Frost for goodness sake rucking at the centrebounce and they still won an easy clearance :facepalm.
Need to switch on.
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Need to stop kicking it to Jack with Sciliy constantly marking
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Not surprised after last week. Hopefully they can show some effort
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Why do we bother.
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Can't win if Sicily is not tagged
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Hope Soldo is okay. Hawk player going to get a forced holiday for that.
Lovely pass by Banks to Baker. Misses.
8 - 26
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Cotch to Dusty = goal :gotigers
Rich 2.2-14
Haw 4.2-26
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Why is our pressure so bad? :help ::banghead
We aren’t going to win unless we pull out the fingers and start applying pressure
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Hawks playing that flood back slingshot crap that seems to expose our lack of pace these days
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Hopper goal on the siren :gotigers
Quarter time
Richmond 3.2-20
Hawthorn 4.2-26
Goals: Martin, Hopper, Graham.
Horrible start but we're able to control possession in the last 5 minutes. No Sicily on the ground helps. Fortunate to be only a goal down.
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Slowmo in the ruck at a throw in 50 meters out from our goal southern side of the ground he has a hawk player in front of the contest and he has Dusty standing on his own to his right and he palms in into the arms of the hawthorn player right in front on him :banghead :banghead
What’s the point of a Ruckman? :help
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Stats to 1/4 time:
Disposals: 98 - 94 .... ( contested: 34 - 30 )
Marks: 29 - 25
Clearances: 10 - 10
Inside 50s: 12 - 16
Tackles: 18 - 10
Hitouts: 11 - 9
Frees: 3 - 2
Prestia 10
Floss 8
Baker 7
Ross 7
Dusty 6
Taranto 6
Broad 6
Banks 6
Soldo 5
Hopper 5
https://www.afl.com.au/afl/matches/4943#player-stats
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Free SOldo. Bolts out of the middle and Dusty marks 3rd in the row. Sprays it to the pocket but Miller takes a flyer. Bends it through too. Goal! :gotigers
Rich 4.2-26
Haw 4.2-26
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Great burst by Bolts out of the stoppage.
Taranto goals :gotigers.
We're in front!
Rich 5.2-32
Haw 4.2-26
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Pickett two hands at the mark.
Good desperation at ground level. Bolt snap misses though.
33 - 26
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Why Miller why? :P
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Nathan Broad.
Pathetic. Sub him off for that.
Idiot
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On top in the game and then a suddenly series of brainfades cost us a goal and then gifts them on :banghead.
Idiots! :banghead
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Absolutely dominating. Broad stuffs up. We are now behind.
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Get Banks off Wingard.
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Does anyone else get sick of this jeckle & Hyde form of ours.
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Our midfield needs a rocket, getting well beaten.
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Clearances hurting us
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All that effort to get to get back and on top in general play and then we throw it away so easily with our own stupidity :banghead.
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Stop trying to kick it to Jack. Jack should be a decoy
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Jack is being embarrassed by Sicily today.
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In big trouble
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Jack is being embarrassed by Sicily today.
He is but that was a clear free to Jack not paid.
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I just want to know what was discussed in the opposition analysis meeting or whatever they call it during the week. Hawks are tagging Rioli, what did we implement to stifle them or did we just as per usual arrogantly think playing our game alone would be enough?
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Two different HTB rules out there ::).
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They just want it more.
This game is over as is our season.
It was anyway.
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We’re Bill Bucked
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When Wingard is kicking easy goals you know that we aren’t playing well.
Is an embarrassment
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I bet Cotchin isn't laughing like he was after missing that sitter earlier from Miller that would have put us up by 14 points.
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Soldo is rubbish
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Gift the opposition the momentum via our own stupidity then we've only got ourselves to blame. They've kicked the last 6 goals from just 9 inside 50s :help. Killed all over the park in the last 10 mins.
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Our midfield is getting their pants pulled down
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Bolton missing sitters again.
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I bet Cotchin isn't laughing like he was after missing that sitter earlier from Miller that would have put us up by 14 points.
Yup deserves more blame than Miller imo for even calling for that pass. He was 5m from goal just leave him to take the set shot.
That plus the broad poor kick -> Rioli one handed mark attempt -> broad not taking the easy handball and being caught htb, completely changed momentum.
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Soldo in the goal square :rollin :lol :help :banghead
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Talk about a lack of workrate. Bad turnover like that should mean we have free players everywhere yet there's a 3-on-1 on Dusty and no other free players forward to go to.
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We should all have worried after last week's game. Blues are 58 points up at quarter time
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Sub jack off.
Looks horrible
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We should all have worried after last week's game. Blues are 58 points up at quarter time
Yep
Last week was horrific
What has happened to Rioli? Injured ?
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Graham did well a couple of times there. Baker goal with 30 secs to go.
Rich 6.6-42
Haw 10.2-62
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Agree Jack is done. So hard to watch one of my favourites of all time.
Sub Pickett off he's had 1 touch and has shirked 2 contests.
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Making Wingard look like Eddie Betts ::) :facepalm.
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Too many poo players getting gifted games
Miller
Ross
Jack G
Jack R
Broad is getting flogged. Weak as pee since he signed his contract
Bolton - when was the last time he kicked a set shot? Not worth $5 let alone 800k
Taranto and Hopper - expensive duds
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Duds like Wingard, Worpel Nash murdering us.
Show some fight.
Said this many times.
How is Pickett still getting a game?
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Half-time
Richmond 3.2 6.6-42
Hawthorn 4.2 10.3-63
Goals: Martin, Hopper, Graham, Taranto, Miller, Baker.
We and especially our mids need a rocket at half-time. FFS, they are playing a stuff in Frost as 2nd ruck and they still win the centre clearance.
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Too many poo players getting gifted games
Miller
Ross
Jack G
Jack R
Broad is getting flogged. Weak as pee since he signed his contract
Bolton - when was the last time he kicked a set shot? Not worth $5 let alone 800k
Taranto and Hopper - expensive duds
Idiotic post
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Stats to HT:
Disposals: 179 - 185 .... ( contested: 67 - 64 )
Marks: 54 - 43
Clearances: 19 - 22 .... ( centre: 6 - 11 ) ... Newcombe and Worpel have had 7 CCs :help.
Inside 50s: 24 - 28
Tackles: 31 - 29
Hitouts: 21 - 19
Frees: 5 - 6
Prestia 16 disposals
Taranto 14
Bolton 12
Ross 12
Graham 11
Floss 11
Baker 10
Dusty 10
Balta 9
Cotch 9
Broad 8
D.Rioli 8
Hopper 7
Soldo 7
Kmac 5
Young 5
Grimes 4
Miller 4
Riewoldt 4
Mansell 3
Pickett 2
Coulthard 0 ... sub not used yet.
https://www.afl.com.au/afl/matches/4943#player-stats
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Embarrassing
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Pathetic effort from vlas and grimes there.
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Who’s on Wingard?
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Pathetic effort from vlas and grimes there.
Vlas looked really bad there
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Who’s on Wingard?
Nobody
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Taranto spearing goal from 50 :gotigers.
Rich 7.6-48
Haw 11.3-69
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How's the smiling out there. Like were 50 points up and season isn't over.
Defence has been pathetic today.
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Our turnovers :facepalm
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Put vlastuin on Sicily. He’s having a nightmare in defence anyway. :banghead
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Broad doesn't even look where he handballs half the time
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Thought we might come out firing. The opposite has occurred.
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Yep, we're so lethargic and reactive and then we panic :P.
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Get Cotchin off after that.
How do you miss that.
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Cotch clips the post from 15m out. Sums up our pathetic day :P.
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The lack of scoring threat in this side is absolutely local footy standard.
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Lot of players don't look like they give a stuff out there.
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Cotch clips the post from 15m out. Sums up our pathetic day :P.
Worst kick from a player I’ve seen under absolute no pressure at all.
Absolutely hopeless leadership from Cotchin.
Terrible.
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We’ve had 1 less scoring shots btw. Hitting the post from 10m uncontested directly in front vs the oppo dobbing them straight through the middle from 50.
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Well the every game Soldo kicks a goal we win streak is gonna be tested today.
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Miller centres it to Soldo who gets 50. Goal! :gotigers
Rich 8.8-56
Haw 13.3-81
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Cotchin gives it straight back. :banghead
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Cotchin also embarrassing himself now.
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Handballing behind your teammate who had space in front of him. Since when is that our gameplan :banghead.
That's 9 goals to them off our turnovers :banghead.
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Which team is playing for a finals spot? :help
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Young subbed off for Coulthard.
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Other than moving baker onto Sicily can someone point to one move the coaching staff have made all day to try and change things up?
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1-vs-2 and the one Hawk wins it :facepalm.
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Young subbed off for Coulthard.
I would’ve subbed off Cotchin
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1-vs-2 and the one Hawk wins it :facepalm.
What was Miller doing there?
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1-vs-2 and the one Hawk wins it :facepalm.
What was Miller doing there?
We've been clueless all day.
ps. So have the umps.
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About time Bolton kicked a set shot
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This this is a defining loss.
Disgraceful performance by all involved mostly because our senior players have been awful all game.
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I can’t for life of me work out how that free kick was deliberate :banghead
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Cotchin and Jack have had their moments this year - but they are a shadow of their former selves today .
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3/4 time
Richmond 3.2 6.6 9.9-63
Hawthorn 4.2 10.3 15.3-93
Goals: Taranto 2, Martin, Hopper, Graham, Miller, Baker, Soldo, Bolton
Effectively over unless there's some miracle. Sloppy headless chook footy :scream.
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In hindsight the game changed when Miller fluffed that certain goal
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Stats to 3QT:
Disposals: 282 - 276 .... ( contested: 109 - 99 )
Marks: 80 - 64
Clearances: 30 - 31 .... ( centre: 9 - 15 ) :thumbsdown
In50 eff.%: 54 - 43 :thumbsdown
Tackles: 53 - 41
Hitouts: 33 - 31
Frees: 11 - 11
Prestia 24 disposals
Roos 20
Taranto 19
Dusty 17
Floss 17
Graham 16
Bolton 16
Broad 16
Hopper 15
Balta 15
https://www.afl.com.au/afl/matches/4943#player-stats
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BS ump. If you're going to pay that crap against us then we should get them paid to us too.
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Is number 5 for Hawthorn the second coming of Leigh Matthews. Certainly looks it.
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Wow. What a rubbish kick.
Bolton gave it straight back to hawks Kicking inside 50. Straight down the other end of an almost goal.
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Another turnover going inside 50 :banghead. There's no connection.
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Cotchin and Jack have had their moments this year - but they are a shadow of their former selves today .
Should have been rested before now
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Wow. What a rubbish kick.
Bolton gave it straight back to hawks Kicking inside 50. Straight down the other end of an almost goal.
Not good enough
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Well done Matty :clapping.
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I like the look of Coultard. Nice work :clapping :clapping :clapping
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Goal to Jack :gotigers.
Rich 10.9-69
Haw 15.4-94
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Coutlhard has set up two goals.
Dusty :gotigers.
Rich 11.9-75
Haw 15.4-94
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OMG we actually got a centre clearance :gobdrop
Graham to Mansell. Misses :scream.
76 - 94
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Jack misses a sitter :P.
77 - 94
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Oh. KICK A DROP PUNT!!
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Jack certainly hasn’t aged well with any part of his game. Brutal!
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Taranto :gotigers
Rich 12.11-83
Haw 15.4-94
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Moving Pickett to ruck ha been an excellent move from the coach. :clapping
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Wow, fantastic by Rioli. Jack needs to kick this obviously. Misses :P.
84 - 94
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These umps are a disgrace >:(.
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Now putting Soldo back on the ball has been a terrible decision by the coach :help
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Soldo great tap straight to a hawks player on the wing. :banghead
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Dusty is so lazy at times.
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Kmac :gotigers
Rich 13.12-90
Haw 15.5-95
2 mins to go.
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Baker :gotigers
Rich 14.12-96
Haw 15.5-95
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Make baker captain
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:gotigers
:phew
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Um. What.
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This this is a defining loss.
Disagree
I still think the Hawks get a bit out of today
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Which team is playing for a finals spot? :help
Richmond
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This this is a defining loss.
Disagree
I still think the Hawks get a bit out of today
Yep definitely, they got a lot out of today from the effing pathetic umpires
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Take the 4 points, keep the season alive and forget those first 3 quarters ever happened lol :gotigers
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Look we played crap from 3 qtrs. We carried on from last week. But gotta hand it to the boys. That last qtr was amazing and would have been better if jack could still play. Granted he deserved a couple or 3 free kicks , but he would have missed them all anyway. He has been pretty much useless
The bonus is we found a kid. Coulthard has it. He is a find .
Big cheer to dan RIOLI. Tried his guts out all day and was rewarded with a match saving last qtr. Absolutely brilliant.
Timmy T, another game to shove up Cornes butt .
Mini , we must say deserves a big cheer. Taking Young off who kept Barass to donuts , 0 possessions, to bring in Coulthard showed brains and courage .
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We are currently in seventh spot on the ladder.
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Final Score
Richmond 3.2 6.6 9.9 14.12-96
Hawthorn 4.2 10.3 15.3 15.5-95
Goals: Taranto 3, Baker 2, Martin 2, Hopper, Graham, Miller, Soldo, Bolton, Riewoldt, McIntosh
unless there's some miracle.
Hellalujah :snidegrin
Got to ask where that fight and desperation was in the first 3 quarters but in the end we got over the line by the skin of our teeth to get the 4 points which is the most important thing. Season still alive.
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Our pressure rating in the last quarter was 213. For the rest of the game, it was 186.
https://www.afl.com.au/afl/matches/4943#timeline
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Turn up in the last, I was wrong , thought we were cooked
Glad I was wrong
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Apparently the third biggest comeback at 3 qtr time in history? Don’t quote me on it, just saw it posted somewhere.
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This inconsistency poos me. I know we’re transitioning but we can go from playing the worst we’ve played in years to coming back 6 goals down all in the one game
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Was very stressful at the game! Played like garbage and came away with the points. Shocked.
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Last two minutes: https://www.richmondfc.com.au/video/1385504/round-19-last-two-mins
All final quarter goals: https://www.richmondfc.com.au/video/1385541/round-19-all-the-4th-quarter-goals
Match highlights: https://www.richmondfc.com.au/video/1385539/round-19-match-highlights
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Make baker captain
If it was for his last qtr I'd probably agree
But his first 3 and in particular his first half were average
I get what he is trying to do but when it starts costing you goals because the knock ons go straight to the opposition, results in turnovers and creates incredibly soft scoring opportunities then I'm doing this :banghead and saying caotain? not for me
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I actually thought Bakes looked like our most dangerous forward in the 1st half.
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I actually thought Bakes looked like our most dangerous forward in the 1st half.
Problem was what he did with it.
He was channelling his inner Cotchin ;)
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Better down back :thumbsup
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Baker forward doesn't work.
At one stage our forward line was
Jack
Baker Cotchin Graham Prestia Pickett
Player in twilight and a heap of midfielders. Gotta ensure we have some forwards on the list next year because you cat play 5 midfielders in forwardline. Crazy
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Don't think Cotch will want to watch the replay
Probably the worst game he's played in a decade
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Don't think Cotch will want to watch the replay
Probably the worst game he's played in a decade
Needs a spell next week, was terrible.
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Don't think Cotch will want to watch the replay
Probably the worst game he's played in a decade
Needs a spell next week, was terrible.
You played well today after stinking it up last week, back Chimp in
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Don't think Cotch will want to watch the replay
Probably the worst game he's played in a decade
Needs a spell next week, was terrible.
You played well today after stinking it up last week, back Chimp in
Cooked.
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Don't think Cotch will want to watch the replay
Probably the worst game he's played in a decade
Needs a spell next week, was terrible.
You played well today after stinking it up last week, back Chimp in
Cooked.
That pass from Miller was dumb. Cotch had a bloke running straight at him so had to kick high/close to the man.
The second miss was terrible.
Jack has a mare too fmd.
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Simple fact is that we had too many slow or old blokes on the field today.
Cotchin
Riewoldt
McIntosh
Pickett
Grimes
Graham
At least one of them has to go next week.
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Team stats:
Disposals: 378 - 359 .... ( contested: 142 - 128 ; uncontested: 240 - 224 )
Efficiency%: 73 - 72
Kicks: 232 - 198
Handballs: 146 - 161
Turnover: 70 - 77
Marks: 115 - 89 .... ( contested marks: 21 - 11 )
Tackles: 73 - 52
Clearances: 37 - 40 .... ( centre: 10 - 19 ; stoppages: 27 - 21 )
Inside 50s: 51 - 55
In50 eff.%: 57 - 38
In50 marks: 24 - 10
In50 tackles: 12 - 4
Hitouts: 39 - 42
Bounces: 14 - 17
One %ers: 43 - 32
Frees: 14 - 16
Individual possies:
Prestia 28
Ross 27
Martin 24
Taranto 23
Broad 21
Graham 21
Baker 20
D.Rioli 20
Vlastuin 20
Balta 19
Bolton 19
Banks 18
Cotchin 18
Hopper 18
McIntosh 15
Riewoldt 12
Soldo 12
Mansell 10
Coulthard 7 .... ( subbed on in the 3rd quarter )
Grimes 7
Pickett 7
Young 7 .... ( subbed off in the 3rd quarter )
Miller 5
https://www.afl.com.au/afl/matches/4943#player-stats
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(http://oneeyed-richmond.com/images/richmond/RichmondBiggest3QTcomebacks.png)
https://www.afl.com.au/video/985636/trsf-port-pies-instant-classic-tiger-matchwinner-unpacked
Biggest Richmond comeback from 3Q time in the AFL era:
30pts v HAWTHORN 2023
25pts v Brisbane 2008
23pts v Fremantle 1997
22pts v Fitzroy 1995
21pts v Hawthorn 1998
https://twitter.com/_tigertime/status/1682702313348296705
Winning by 1 pt when trailing by 30+ at 3QT
1940 R06 sth v nth
1944 R05 nth v sth
1944 R13 nth v rich
1960 R08 fitz v sth
1972 R20 geel v coll
1989 R05 fitz v geel
1992 R06 ess v melb
1994 R07 stk v syd
2000 R09 wbd v stk
2004 R06 wbd v nth
2023 R19 RICH v HAW
https://twitter.com/sirswampthing/status/1682640997652774918
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Ohh yeahhh! It feels great to paper over our crack! :clapping
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Better than just having a crack.
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Expected scores had us winning by 6 goals :o.
Hawthorn's super-accuracy combined with our missed sitters made the game what it was.
We were also at only a 10% chance of winning twice in the last quarter. The last two minutes saw us go from 10% up to 100% winners.
#AFLTigersHawks Final xScores:
RICH 95 from expected 102.9 (+1 rushed)
HAW 95 from expected 67.1 (+0 rushed)
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F1rSqkBaYAAJteI?format=jpg&name=medium)
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F1rSrTqaMAAzUoR?format=png&name=900x900)
https://twitter.com/AFLxScore/status/1682889055988744192
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AFL Report Card: Round 19
Ben Cotton, Ben Waterworth, Catherine Healey
Foxsports
24 July 2023
RICHMOND
How did they do that? The Tigers on Saturday pulled off the most remarkable barnstorming finish to keep their season alive, fighting back from a 36-point deficit in the shadows of three-quarter time to break Hawthorn hearts in a spectacular case of highway robbery. After being largely outplayed in the opening three quarters, Richmond in the fourth term flicked the switch in devastating fashion and kicked the last six goals to overpower the Hawks with a one-point win. It was the Tigers’ equal-greatest comeback from three-quarter time after being down by 30 points at the final change. Their charge towards the top eight remains on course.
In the votes
Tim Taranto produced another match-winning performance that featured 23 disposals, 11 contested possessions, eight tackles and three goals, while Dustin Martin was also crucial in racking up 24 touches, seven marks and two goals. Jack Ross (27 disposals) and Jack Graham (21) were also influential. But leading the charge late were Liam Baker and Daniel Rioli, who had eight touches for the final term alone, while debutant Matt Coulthard had an enormous impact coming on as the sub, having seven disposals, two inside 50s and going at 100 per cent by foot.
Room for improvement
As good as their final-term blitz was, the Tigers were outplayed by Hawthorn for the first three quarters, with their backline struggling to fire. At three quarter-time, the Hawks had kicked 15 goals from 44 inside 50s, compared to Richmond’s nine from 39. Fox Footy’s David King said at one stage in the second term: “They’re a rabble down back at the moment the Tigers … I haven’t seen them look like this down back for a while.” Elsewhere, Trent Cotchin kicked 0.2 and went at 30 per cent by foot.
Grade
B+
https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/afl-news-2023-round-19-report-card-highlights-grades-every-club-reviewed-best-and-worst-video-stats-coach-press-conferences/news-story/08275db481a105476e3a93eb44e32815
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Coaching highlighted in the dying stages of Richmond v Hawthorn
Nathan Buckley
SEN
24 July 2023
“I saw a cracking game, Richmond v Hawthorn on the Saturday and I was taken by the last 10 minutes and the coaching within it.
“You've got (Andrew) McQualter who's trying to earn a senior role and you've got Sam Mitchell who's coaching for the future.
“They both had to consider different scenarios, less than a goal up, less than a goal down.
“It became a point of discussion in the post-match.
“So, Will Day went back with seven minutes to go, Richmond had kicked a couple and they were only two goals away from getting there.
“They were 13 points up I think Hawthorn, but all the momentum was with Richmond.
“There must have been some scenario training to say, ok, ‘Will Day goes back as a seventh (defender) when we want to slow the opposition down’.
“But Nick (Vlaustin) went as a seventh forward which asked the question (of Day).
“Then there was still four minutes to go, and Richmond are still two goals down and then (Karl) Amon off the wing, came back and played as an eighth defender.
“Will Day and (Jack) Scrimshaw were two v one against Jack Riewoldt who had a couple of real key contests.
“I thought the coaching was brilliant on both sides and it was a close game as a response.
“I thought both would come out of that with positives.”
https://www.sen.com.au/news/2023/07/23/the-buck-stops-here-elliott-repeating-history-the-heavyweight-clash-and/
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Coaches' votes: (McQualter & Mitchell)
Richmond v Hawthorn
10 James Sicily (HAW)
6 Jack Graham (RICH)
4 Noah Balta (RICH)
3 Jai Newcombe (HAW)
3 Dion Prestia (RICH)
3 James Worpel (HAW)
1 Tim Taranto (RICH)
https://www.afl.com.au/news/986968/coaches-votes-r19-bont-makes-a-move-two-perfect-10s-in-defeat
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AFL WINNERS AND LOSERS: THE RESULTS FROM ROUND 19 AND WHO IT SAYS MORE ABOUT
BY SEN
24 July 2023
Richmond (96) vs Hawthorn (95)
Buckley: “It speaks volumes about Andrew McQualter and his impact on this Richmond team.
“His captain Dylan Grimes said during the week that he had his vote, and I thought that Sam Mitchell and Hawthorn actually asked Richmond a real coaching challenge and the questions that were asked were answered really well.
“The coaches box responded and reacted really well and the scenarios piece that we discussed was there for all to see and it was a stirring win.
“A great game of footy. Both sets of fans would have gone home pretty impressed with the game and the occasion that they witnessed because it was a great win by the Tigers, but the Hawks weren't disappointed.”
https://www.sen.com.au/news/2023/07/24/afl-winners-and-losers-the-results-from-round-19-and-who-it-says-more-about/
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I think Sicily’s 10 votes is further amplified by Jack spraying his shots. Had he nailed his very gettablr shots do they give 10 pts to someone whose direct opponent kicks 3+ goals?
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I think Sicily’s 10 votes is further amplified by Jack spraying his shots. Had he nailed his very gettablr shots do they give 10 pts to someone whose direct opponent kicks 3+ goals?
And doesn't augur well for this week's game. May, Lever and Gawn will have a picnic if we bomb the ball long down the line and inside 50 with only Jack down there. We did that constantly for the first 3 quarters and Sicily gobbled it up. I think we'll see us take a few more risks with ball in hand this week. Might get ugly when it breaks down tho.
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I think Sicily’s 10 votes is further amplified by Jack spraying his shots. Had he nailed his very gettablr shots do they give 10 pts to someone whose direct opponent kicks 3+ goals?
And doesn't augur well for this week's game. May, Lever and Gawn will have a picnic if we bomb the ball long down the line and inside 50 with only Jack down there. We did that constantly for the first 3 quarters and Sicily gobbled it up. I think we'll see us take a few more risks with ball in hand this week. Might get ugly when it breaks down tho.
Play vlas fwd. help keep may and lever honest while actually being a very strong mark and beautiful kick.
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I think Sicily’s 10 votes is further amplified by Jack spraying his shots. Had he nailed his very gettablr shots do they give 10 pts to someone whose direct opponent kicks 3+ goals?
Not to mention the 3 or 4 direct shove in the backs he did when taking some of those intercept marks.