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Football => Richmond Rant => Topic started by: one-eyed on July 18, 2023, 03:27:50 PM
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Morning VFL curtain-raiser at Punt Rd prior to the AFL match at the 'G.
VFL Round 18
RICHMOND (8-5-1, 8th) vs Box Hill Hawks (11-3, 4th)
Saturday, 22nd July @ the Swinburne Centre, Punt Road Oval.
Start time: 10:05 am
Broadcast: AFL website & AFL app.
https://www.afl.com.au/vfl/matches/5252
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In: Seth Campbell, Samson Ryan, Hugo Ralphsmith, Maurice Rioli
Out: Rhyan Mansell, Matt Coulthard, Luke Teal, Garrett McDonagh
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RICHMOND VFL team
B: Lachlan Street Tom Brindley Mutaz El Nour
HB: Hugo Ralphsmith Tom Brown James Trezise
C: Seth Campbell Thomson Dow Brad Melville
HF: Noah Cumberland Steely Green Judson Clarke
F: Bigoa Nyuon Maurice Rioli Kaelan Bradtke
R: Samson Ryan Cam Olden Tyler Sonsie
Int: Austin Johnson Mykelti Lefau Will Bravo Angus Hicks Mohammed Yassine
23rd player: Mohammed Yassine
Emg: Joel Nathan Archie May Luke Teal
https://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/1385007/
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Just about to start.
Live stream: https://www.afl.com.au/afl-tv/stream?streamId=State%20League%20CH7&player=arILJvH9PY
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Ryan, Sonsie, Dow & Maurice starting in the centre square.
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Clarke bounces along the wing. Goes to Biggy who is tackled but Clarke runs on, gathers and hits up Campbell 30 out. Misses.
1 - 0
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Cumberland looking lively early. We need this guy to get it together
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Street intercepts and goes inside 50 where Cumberland marks 40 out by the boundary. Gets it. Goal! :gotigers
Rich 1.1-7
BH 0.0-0
7 min Q1
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Turnover kick out of D50. BH rebound and goal.
7 - 6
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I like Maurice in the middle. He just needs to get some touches to get some momentum
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Cumberland off one step from 45 and it sails through :gotigers.
Rich 2.1-13
BH 1.1-7
13 min Q1
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Really good by Yassine along the wing. His wheels just blew away the BH player. Nice kick to Bradtke 35 out. Goal! :gotigers
Rich 3.1-19
BH 1.2-8
17 min Q1
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Nice transition out of defence. Cumberland around his body kicks his 3rd :gotigers
Rich 4.1-25
BH 1.3-9
20 min Q1
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Rioli and Cumberland looking too good for vfl imo. Dow playing well too. What’s happened to sonesie
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Rioli and Cumberland looking too good for vfl imo. Dow playing well too. What’s happened to sonesie
Yep- they are up and about :clapping
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Throw-in 45 out. Maurice with the clearance and his kick is marked by Lefau 25 out. Sprays it and misses.
26 - 9
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Cumberland doing the chasing and smothering too. That's what Mini wants to see.
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Our kick-in up the middle towards a flat-footed El Nour is intercepted by BH 50 out. Gifts them a goal :scream.
26 - 16
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Quarter time
Richmond 4.2-26
Box Hill 2.5-17
Goals: Cumberland 3, Bradtke.
Mostly good. Very open game by both sides. Not for a few fumbles at crucial moments it would've been even better.
Dow, Maurice and Cumberland our best so far. Helps to have a proper ruckman in our VFL team with Samson (6 hitouts).
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Stats to QT:
Dow 10
Maurice 8
Trezise 5
Green 5
Clarke 5
Cumberland 4 plus 3 goals.
Campbell 3
Brown 3
Sonsie 2
Hugo 2
Bradtke 2
Ryan 1
Biggie 0 .... playing FF but hasn't touched the ball.
Disposals 79 - 109
Marks: 21 - 29
Clearances: 8 - 7
Inside 50s: 13 - 14
Tackles: 4 - 8
Hitouts: 8 - 7
Frees: 3 - 6
https://www.afl.com.au/vfl/matches/5252#team-stats
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Hugo at HB to Sonsie on the wing to Green who goes inside 50 to Samson who wins front position and marks 35 out. Misses.
27 - 18
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Maurice almost stuffed it fumbling when he was wide open to run into goal. He fights on so we get it back. Hugo finds Biggie 30 out. Goal!
Rich 5.3-33
BH 2.6-18
4 min Q2
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El Nour off HB Nice kick to Hugo on the wing who finds Samson 60 out. Goes long. Ball-up 15 out. Ball gets rushed through.
34 - 18
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Brown switches nicely to Hicks to Clarke who runs away and finds Maurice 45 out. Sets it up to the square. A couple of Ball-ups 15 out. We go backwards and Dow finds Biggie 45 out. Big kick but it misses.
35 - 18
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Too cute by Maurice on wing when the bread and butter handball was on and causes the turnover. BH get a goal.
35 - 24
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Last 5 mins we're just doing dumb things. Trying to be too cute rather than playing the percentages.
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MRJ still butchers it every time he touches it
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It's why Maurice is in the ressies. Crucial fumbles. Just mishandling the ball. This one 45 out. BH are able to break out and run it down the ground for a goal.
35 - 30
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Richmond players don't have heads/necks. Clear free to Clarke 25 out not paid ::).
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Johnson intercepts the quick defensive BH kick on 50. Misses/touched anyway.
36 - 30
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BH getting on top in the stoppages/contests as well as being cleaner.
36 all.
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Terrible last 10-15 mins.
36 - 37
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Biggie :facepalm.
Gifts BH another goal.
36 - 43
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Half-time
Richmond 4.2 5.6-36
Box Hill 2.5 6.7-43
Goals: Cumberland 3, Bradtke, Nyuon
The last 15 mins was soft U10s stuff :banghead. Lazy and undisciplined in the sense of being too casual and cute with the bread and butter basics of the game both offensively and defensively :banghead. Morris needs to give them an old school blast during the break.
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Stats to HT:
Dow 17 disposals
Sonsie 14
Maurice 13
Hugo 11
Green 10
Trezise 8
Clarke 8
Ryan 7
Biggie 5
Cumberland 5
Campbell 5
Bradtke 2
Disposals: 168 - 181
Marks: 47 - 49
Clearances: 14- 17
Inside 50s: 21 - 26
Tackles: 21 - 17 .... low tackling game slingshot game.
Hitouts: 17 - 15
Frees: 7 - 8
https://www.afl.com.au/vfl/matches/5252#team-stats
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Disgusting performance in that qtr. Woeful
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Hugo to Samson 60 out. Finds Bradtke in the pocket. Misses.
37 - 43
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Street nice vision out to Clarke. He runs and bounces inside 50 but his banana shot sprays OOTF. Had Melville free too.
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Two Hawks spoil each other up forward. Allows us to rebound off HB via Street and gets to Biggie to Cumberland who gets on the end of it for a goal :gotigers.
Rich 6.7-43
BH 6.7-43
5 min Q3
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Free and goal to BH.
43 - 49
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Bravo to Bradtke up the ground who hits up Cumberland in the pocket. Gets it. Goal! :gotigers
5 to Noah,
Rich 7.7-49
BH 7.7-49
14 min Q3
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That was soft. Mistackle after mistackle.
49 - 55
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Long kick-in straight to a BH player. Ball goes back over our heads.
49 - 62
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Yassine over the top towards Bradtke. It bounces high 5m out and Bradtke can't put it through as he is tackled. Miss.
BH run it down the other end for goal.
50 - 68
A disorganised rabble :banghead.
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Finally get a centre clearance (Maurice). Contest at HF. Cumberland gathers and finds Clarke 35 out. Goal! :gotigers
Rich 8.8-56
BH 10.8-68
30 min Q3
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Can we get a proper tackling coach? ::)
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3/4 time
Richmond 4.2 5.6 8.8-56
Box Hill 2.5 6.7 10.9-69
Goals: Cumberland 5, Bradtke, Nyuon, Clarke
Not going to win unless we start hardening up in the contests to win the ball as well as to tackle properly :scream. Times in that quarter our structure and gameplan completely fell away. Lucky to be still close enough on the scoreboard.
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Stats to 3/4 time:
Dow 23 disposals
Sonsie 19
Hugo 18
Maurice 17
Trezise 15
Clarke 12
Green 11
Ryan 9
Cumberland 9
Brown 9
Biggie 7
Bradtke 6
Campbell 5
Disposals: 255 - 281
Marks: 69 - 68
Clearances: 22 - 29
Inside 50s: 30 - 45
Tackles: 32 - 24
Hitouts: 28 - 27
Frees: 9 - 11
https://www.afl.com.au/vfl/matches/5252#team-stats
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At both levels, whoever our new coach is needs to re-teach our players to be front and square at contests :banghead.
Hugo kicks inside 50 to Cumberland who is out-numbers 1-vs-3. He does well to bring it down but no one is front and square and
BH rebound easily off HB for the first goal of the last :banghead.
56 - 75
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We go forward. Hicks to Biggie on the goal-line. For some reason gives off to Green :huh who gets the goal back :gotigers.
Rich 9.8-62
BH 11.9-75
4 min Q4
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That's why we stuff up. Trezise had to go to Brown who was free not longer to little Yassine and cause the turnover.
BH get another free and goal.
62 - 82
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We get the goal back via Cumberland paddling away from goal and hooking around his body for his 6th :gotigers.
Rich 10.8-68
BH 12.10-82
8 min Q4
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Playing his way back into the 1s. Great goal just there.
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Geez we have some thick players :facepalm.
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Get in bloody front Bradtke or get off.
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That's HTB! BH player spun out of the first tackle and then got tackled again ::).
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BH deliberate. Gets to Brindley in the pocket. Shot floats through = Goal!
Rich 11.8-74
BH 12.12-84
21 min Q4
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Sonsie goal :gotigers
Rich 12.8-80
BH 12.12-84
24 min Q4
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Green long and it's rushed.
81 - 84
29 min Q4
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Lost by 3.
Only got ourselves to blame.
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Good of them to get back into it but after getting to within a kick, let the hawks kill too much time chipping it around before they finally manned up.
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Final Score
Richmond 4.2 5.6 8.8 12.9-81
Box Hill 2.5 6.7 10.9 12.12-84
Goals: Cumberland 6, Bradtke, Nyuon, Clarke, Sonsie, Green, Brindley
Paid for our lack of intensity from the midway point of the 2nd quarter to 3/4 time. Where was that effort and desperation in the last quarter in the previous 1.5 quarters? Add poor skills and decision making and it's a game we could've but didn't win. Just not good enough.
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Cumberland should be in the senior side
End of story
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Stats:
Dow 25 disposals ( 8k, 17h), 3 marks, 1 tackle , 4 clearances.
Ralphsmith 23 disposals (11k, 12h), 3 marks, 3 tackles, - , 2 inside 50s.
M.Rioli 23 disposals (11k, 12h), 1 mark , 7 tackles, 6 clearances, 3 inside 50s.
Sonsie 23 disposals (12k, 11h), 6 marks, 1 tackle , 5 clearances, 1 inside 50 , - , 1 goal.
Clarke 19 disposals (16k, 3h), 8 marks, 3 tackles, 1 clearance , 6 inside 50s, - , 1 goal.
Green 16 disposals ( 8k, 8h), 6 marks, 2 tackles, 1 clearance , 4 inside 50s, - , 1 goal.
Brown 15 disposals ( 9k, 6h), 2 marks, 3 tackles.
Trezise 15 disposals (10k, 5h), 3 marks, 3 tackles, 2 clearances.
Cumberland 14 disposals (10k, 4h), 5 marks, 1 tackle , - , 1 inside 50 , - , 6 goals.
Nyuon 11 disposals ( 7k, 4h), 6 marks, 1 tackle , 1 clearance , 2 inside 50s, 4 hitouts, 1 goal , 1 behind.
Ryan 10 disposals ( 6k, 4h), 5 marks, 4 tackles, - , 2 inside 50s, 33 hitouts, - , 1 behind.
Bradtke 6 disposals ( 6k, 0h), 5 marks, 2 tackles, - , 2 inside 50s, - , 1 goal , 2 behinds.
Campbell 5 disposals ( 3k, 2h), 3 marks, - , 1 clearance , - , - , - , 1 behind.
VFL-listers:
Street 21 disposals
Hicks 19
Brindley 17
El Nour 17
Melville 12
Olden 10
Johnson 9
Lefau 8
Yassine 8
Bravo 7
Disposals: 333 - 364
Kicks: 199 - 215
Handballs: 134 - 149
Marks: 89 - 103
Clearances: 32 - 38
Inside 50s: 43 - 57
Tackles: 47 - 35
Hitouts: 37 - 40
Frees: 12 - 18
https://www.afl.com.au/vfl/matches/5252#team-stats
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Everyone into MRJ for fumbling which is true but his role in the seniors has him nowhere near the ball most of the time which doesn’t help his development. It happened to Dan Rioli and that role crucifies young players.
Belongs with more mature goers like Mansell.
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Spot on, the more he gets his hands on the ball the less mistakes he should make. He will gain confidence from today accumulating a lot of possessions.
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Maurice - can't question his effort today and his last quarter in the middle gave us back the momentum which got us so close. His handling skills are the missing piece. Some of it is clearly confidence.
Dow - Game matched the team's. Strong first 1.5 quarters and his last was decent. But we got beaten up in the middle in between that.
Sonsie - quiet first quarter. Got more into the game in the second and his last was good. He was in and out of the game. As a centre square player like Dow, went missing when Box Hill got on top at the stoppages mid-2nd to 3/4 time.
Hugo - finished the game strongly. If only he could be a reliable kick.
Clarke - probably our cleanest albeit he's an outside player so you'd expect that. In and out of the game as well.
Green - first 1.5 quarters was noticeable until drifting out of the game. His poor footskills are what is going to stop him becoming an AFL footballer.
Brown and Trezise - lower possession games from both of them than usual. They've both had better and more influential ganes.
Cumberland - our only winning forward on the ground and he made the most of his chances. You can't ask for much more when he kicks half the team's goal. Thought his attitude and effort off the ball was good too.
Samson and Biggie - our talls were beaten today. Samson at least competed well in the ruck. Biggie either has a blinder or a mare (not much in between) and today was the latter.
Bradtke - don't see him at Punt Rd next year.
Campbell - must have only played a half as I didn't notice him after half-time. First game back from a long lay off.
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Criminal Cumberland our best medium forward in the vfl .
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Our forwardline is disfunctional with only genuine target is Ben Miller. Cumberland must play.
We don't score enough with and without momentum swings.
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Criminal Cumberland our best medium forward in the vfl .
Disagree, he needed a game like this in the ressies. What would be criminal is not rewarding him with a senior game next week.
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I missed that one, what makes him a criminal
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VFL Tigers push Hawks all the way
By Brenton Mann
Richmond Media
22 July 2023
RICH 4.2 5.6 8.8 12.9 (81)
BOX 2.5 6.7 10.9 12.12 (84)
Goal Kickers:
Richmond: Cumberland (6), Sonsie, Nyuon, Green, Clarke, Brindley, Bradtke
Best Players: Cumberland, Clarke, Dow, Sonsie, Rioli, Trezise
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Bleary eyed Richmond faithful, fresh from consuming the Northern hemisphere sporting smorgasbord, made their way to Punt Road Oval for a morning clash between the Tigers and Box Hill.
In a high-octane, end-to-end game with not many stoppages, it was Box Hill that snuck its nose past the winning post by three points, the final score reading, 12.12 (84) to 12.9 (81).
Noah Cumberland gave the attending Tiger Army a reason to cheer with a productive start in attack.
He had the hot hand early, nailing the opening goal of the game from a tricky spot, then drilling his second from beyond the arc.
The dynamic and enigmatic forward starred with six majors, showcasing his potency and power in the air and at ground level.
Whilst the goals showcased his talent, Cumberland’s altruistic acts to bring his teammates into the game would have warmed the hearts of the coaching hierarchy and his piers.
Both sides looked to move the ball at speed in transition, which invited excitement and anxiety as the ball pinged between the arcs.
One play epitomized the trend of the game, as Mohammed Yassine tucked the ball under the arm, burnt off a chasing Hawk and placed the ball expertly to Kaelan Bradtke.
Bradtke’s set-shot stayed the left side of the right post, extending Richmond’s lead beyond two goals.
Cumberland’s first quarter went from good to great, as his quickfire snap sailed through, his third, in an electric start to the game.
Box Hill hit back late, as Richmond held a nine-point lead at the first change.
The Tigers looked sharp early in the second term, as Tyler Sonsie, Angus Hicks, Maurice Rioli and Hugo Ralphsmith propelled the ball forward with speed and skill.
Bigoa Nyuon slotted Richmond’s fifth major, holding his position deep in attack and judging the flight of the ball superbly.
The Hawks hit back with back-to-back goals, cutting the margin to five points.
Richmond had a chance to extend its lead further as Austin Johnson plucked at forward-half intercept, his set shot from the paint of 50 just drifting right of the goal post.
Jacob Koschitzke saluted as soon as the ball left his boot, levelling up the scores minutes before halftime.
Koschitzke made it four-on-the-bounce for the Hawks, sliding through back-to-back goals, handing his side the lead for the first time of the morning.
Box Hill clinched a seven-point lead with a four-goal-to-one second quarter.
The Tigers owned the territory early in the third quarter, with Cumberland capitalizing with his fourth major on the back of fingertip defence from skipper, Lachlan Street.
The game turned into a shootout between Cumberland and Koschitzke, as the Hawk eased through his third, handing Box Hill back the lead.
Hicks set-up Cumberland’s fifth, surging in from the fat-side wing to spoil a squaring ball, igniting the Tigers down the outer wing, with Bradtke finding Cumberland on the lead.
The dynamic forward’s fifth was near identical to his first, sliding through a set-shot from the Richmond Station pocket.
Box Hill once again regained the lead with back-to-back goals as Sam Butler and Koschitzke showed their class inside 50.
The Hawks pushed their lead to three goals before Cumberland swooped on a loose ball, swung onto his left boot, and pierced the ball onto the chest of Judson Clarke.
Clarke steeled himself and launched the ball over the goal umpire’s hat, cutting the margin to two goals and celebrated with customary energy and exuberance.
The Hawks kicked the opening goal of the last quarter, however Cumberland’s fingertip smother led to the Tigers’ ninth major with Nyuon marking on the goal line and handing it to Steely Green.
Box Hill struck back swiftly before the man of the moment, Cumberland swooped onto a centre clearance from Mykelti Lefau and snapped his sixth goal.
Tom Brindley’s acute set-shot tightened the margin and Sonsie cooly brought the game within a straight kick.
Richmond fought, scrapped and clawed to the line, ultimately falling just short.
https://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/1385439/vfl-tigers-push-hawks-all-the-way
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I suppose things could be worse
From yesterday
Northern Bullants (aka Preston from the VFA days) 0.4.4
We're defeated by
Footscray 24.17.161
:gobdrop
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Everyone into MRJ for fumbling which is true but his role in the seniors has him nowhere near the ball most of the time which doesn’t help his development. It happened to Dan Rioli and that role crucifies young players.
Belongs with more mature goers like Mansell.
Cannot disagree more.
There is no role for players who only chase and apply pressure.
Every fwd should be expected to chase and harass but they should also have a hurt factor as well.
The Riolis copped it and so did Castagna and Mansell does as well.
They cop it because the definition of the role is all wrong.
Defenders continue to rebound it out of defense with gay abandon weather the so called pressure fwds are there or not.
They play loose and dont give a poo about the likes of mrj because they are not being hurt, they are not getting goals kicked against them or having goals created goals for others.
We take credit for the manic fwd pressure of three small fwds but Hawthorn also won three flags based on the same sort of thing with the big difference their small fwds were far better rounded than ours.
All three chased and Harassed with only really Puopolo more a specialist pressure player. The other two cyril and Bruest hurt teams offensively as well and had to be minded.They all actually laid good strong tackles and plenty of them.
I say enough of this glass half full they only need to be pressure players and bring on the glass full well rounded small fwds who do it all. After all it is no longer 2017 - 2019 where you could get away with just pressure in the right system unfortunately those days are long gone. Nothing but a pressure fwd nowadays really has become a liability.
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I missed that one, what makes him a criminal
Not following team rules apparently... :police::shh
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VFL Report: Round 18
Richmond VFL coach Steve Morris provides a summary of how the Tigers’ players performed in last Saturday's loss to Hawthorn at the Swinburne Centre.
Thomson Dow (25 disposals, 12 contested possessions, four clearances)
"Had another really good game in and around the contest. He was one of our leading possession getters and had high numbers in contested possessions. He's in really good form."
Maurice Rioli (23 disposals, 13 contested possessions, seven tackles, six clearances)
"He led us for contested possessions, tackles and clearances. He played on ball for the majority of the day and provided us with plenty of pressure in and around the footy. It was great to see him show his strengths further up the field."
Hugo Ralphsmith (23 disposals, four rebound-50s, three tackles)
"He was very good on the day. Offensively, he provided us a lot of rebound and defensively, he was very sound. Loved the way he approached the game after coming in from AFL level."
Tyler Sonsie (23 disposals, six marks, five clearances, one goal)
"Had a reasonably good day as a part of our on-ball mix. He had five clearances, was able to hit the scoreboard, and he continues his good form."
Judson Clarke (19 disposals, eight marks, six inside-50s, one goal)
"Looked like he was going to make something happen every time he went near the footy. He played well both up forward and on a wing, and continued his good form."
Steely Green (16 disposals, six round marks, four inside-50s, one goal)
"His game was a good one. He got himself into some really good spots and is improving each and every week as a player. He uses the ball beautifully and has really leant into our program."
Tom Brown (15 disposals, three tackles, three rebound-50s)
"Probably didn't have quite the game that he's had over the past month. He's been in some ripping form and was once again solid on the weekend. We'd like the ball in his hands a little bit more, as we saw his decision-making is exceptional."
James Trezise (15 disposals, three marks, three rebound-50s)
"Another very good game from him. He was solid in the contest and used the ball well. We're encouraging him to be more attacking and take the game on. But he is tracking really well and we're really pleased with his progress."
Noah Cumberland (14 disposals, five marks, six goals)
"Almost the complete game from Noah. He used the ball really well, hit the scoreboard heavily, and put some really good pressure on as well. He was pretty crook at half-time and still hit the scoreboard in the second half, so very pleased with the way Noah went about it."
Bigoa Nyuon (11 disposals, six marks, one goal)
"Had another reasonable game. He was able to hit the scoreboard and gave another off that he probably should have kicked himself. I'm looking forward to seeing him really rip a game apart in the next couple of weeks because it's something he know can do."
Samson Ryan (10 disposals, 33 hit-outs, five marks)
"It was a fantastic opportunity for Samson to come up against an experience ruckman who Hawthorn have high hopes for. He battled away really well, attacked the footy, and was very close to ripping the game apart himself."
Kaelan Bradtke (six disposals, five marks, one goal)
"He's continued to improve in recent weeks. It probably wasn't his best game on the weekend, but he showed some really positive signs once again and hopefully he can continue progressing in the coming weeks."
Seth Campbell (five disposals, three marks, one clearance)
"It's just fantastic to have Seth back. He's such an exciting player for our footy Club and we're very lucky to have him. I was just pleased to see him get through the first half unscathed, as there are big things in store for him."
https://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/1387188/vfl-report-round-18