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AFL Round 20
RICHMOND v Melbourne
Sunday, 30th July @ the M.C.G.
Start time: 3:20 pm
https://www.afl.com.au/afl/matches/4953
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Certainly do look beatable atm the demons. Knowing our luck Oliver will be back for the game.
Think we should be playing Vlas fwd otherwise we’ll have may and lever intercepting everything rather than just Sicily.
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AFL Round 20
RICHMOND v Melbourne
Sunday, 30th July @ the M.C.G.
Start time: 3:20 pm
https://www.afl.com.au/afl/matches/4953
What a crap timeslot for us country folk.
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Expecting a crowd of 60k on Sunday according to the AFL website (https://www.afl.com.au/news/987157/huge-crowd-expected-for-blockbuster-between-in-form-rivals).
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No Ben Brown nor Sparrow (injured) for the Dees according to Tom Browne on 7news.
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Sure Ben Brown didn’t get lost during his run up?
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Umpires for Sunday:
Daniel Johanson (6)
Mathew Nicholls (15)
Nathan Toner (25)
Andre Gianfagna (27)
https://www.afl.com.au/afl/matches/4953#line-ups
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Richmond v Melbourne preview
Andrew Slevison
SEN
27 July 2023
This presents as a fairly tasty encounter at the MCG on Sunday.
Richmond is in winning form having saluted six times in seven games, a run that has the club sitting on the edge of the top eight under caretaker Andrew McQualter.
Melbourne has won three on the trot to straighten things up after back-to-back defeats in Rounds 15 and 16.
Simon Goodwin’s side has been fortunate un winning the last two, coming over the top of Brisbane before holding off a fast-finishing Adelaide. Nevertheless, the wins have been banked.
Many would believe the gap between these two sides is monumental, however, only 2.5 wins stands between the Tigers and the Demons. A gap that is not insurmountable.
The Dees have had the Tigers’ measure in recent years, winning three on the trot after they had lost five straight between 2017 and 2020.
The key personnel Melbourne has sidelined - namely Clayton Oliver and Bayley Fritsch - gives the Tigers a sniff. They are playing well under McQualter and a win here would put them in a strong finals position, but their slow starts over the past few weeks could hurt them against a quality opponent.
Goodwin’s Demons are looking to establish a top four slot and with that dangling carrot they should prove too good… but just.
Tip: Melbourne by 8 points.
https://www.sen.com.au/news/2023/07/27/who-will-win-and-why-the-predictions-and-tips-for-round-20-1/
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Tigers or Demons? Richmond vs Melbourne: picks and predictions
Alex Donnelly
Codesports
July 28, 2023
Richmond’s season has some life in it after a massive come from behind victory over Hawthorn last week, but a sterner test comes here against the Demons. Melbourne are looking to lock up their own top four spot heading into finals as the Tigers and Demons clash at the MCG on Sunday July 30.
WHAT WE’RE LOOKING AT
* Richmond has covered the line in seven of its last eight matches against Melbourne.
* Melbourne has won the last three games between the two.
* Seven of the last eight matches between Richmond and Melbourne have gone UNDER the total match points line.
THE MATCH-UP
Top eight and top four aspirations go on the line this Sunday at the iconic MCG between two of the AFL’s traditional clubs as Richmond and Melbourne do battle in prime time.
Richmond came from the clouds last weekend to beat Hawthorn by a point and keep its slim finals chances alive thanks to the three game win streak the Tigers kept alive.
The Demons have also won three straight after a four point win over the Adelaide Crows at the MCG.
The last time these two teams met it was a comfortable 96-78 win for the Demons, who trailed the Tigers by four goals at a point in that game.
The last three between the two have hit the total points under and that trend looks as if it will continue again this weekend.
TOP EIGHT THERE FOR THE SWIPING
Richmond, as it has been for the last few weeks, simply need to keep winning or the season is over. Taking on the Demons at the MCG is as tough as it gets.
In the last three weeks the Tigers have started to score freely, but the wins have come against Sydney, West Coast and Hawthorn with three scores of 88. 96 and 98.
It’s is a completely different ask coming up against a Demons teams that’s the third ranked defensive squad in the AFL currently, with Richmond only ranked 12th for offence.
Tim Taranto and Jacob Hopper came across to Richmond recruits at a massive cost and its paid off for the Tiges. Taranto is high up in the Brownlow betting and has arguably had his best season to date so far. In 2023, Taranto has averaged 30.4 disposals a game and bang on a goal a game as well.
Importantly, Taranto has kicked two or more goals in his last three day games at the MCG, with 30 or more touches in five of his last six Sunday games on top of that.
Hopper has played four games back since injury derailed his season after a brilliant start. In 18 games at the MCG in his short career to date, Hopper averages exactly 22 possessions a game. He needs to go beyond that for the Tigers to have a chance.
LOCK IN THAT TOP FOUR SPOT
With a win on Sunday Melbourne will lock up a finish in the top four for the third consecutive year.
With that top four finish comes the all important double chance and the Dees will know that it all goes on the line this Sunday.
Christian Petracca has been doing everything he can to lift Melbourne: un the last five games he has amassed 139 possessions and 9 goals, which is a phenomenal effort and why he’s one of the Brownlow Medal favourites.
Simply said: if Petracca fires, Melbourne win this game.
Max Gawn could dominate this game with Tiger ruckman Toby Nankervis still missing due to suspension. He comes off of two brilliant games against Adelaide and Brisbane.
Gawn has had 42 touches and three goals in his last two games. With a career average of 16.4 disposals a game against the Tigers, this game looks ripe for a big performance from Gawn.
The Demon big man also looks set to be the All-Australian ruckman once again and a dominant performance on Sunday could almost lock that up.
VINEY STANDING UP WHEN NEEDED MOST
Jack Viney has been fantastic for the Dees since the injury to Clayton Oliver. Viney has added goal kicking to his repertoire, something that had been lacking in recent seasons. He has kicked a goal in six of his last seven games at the MCG, alongside having 25 or more disposals in his last six.
THE PICK
It’s the Demons: their form has been much better than that of the Tigers as of late and they should lock up a top four spot with a win on Sunday.
https://www.codesports.com.au/bet/afl/tips/tigers-or-demons-richmond-vs-melbourne-round-20-sunday-betting-tips-odds-picks-and-predictions/
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Likely to be some showers on Sunday.
Melbourne forecast - Sunday 30 July
Summary
Min 11
Max 18
Showers increasing.
Possible rainfall: 0 to 2 mm
Chance of any rain: 80%
Melbourne area
Sunny morning. High chance of showers, most likely in the afternoon and evening. Winds north to northwesterly 15 to 25 km/h increasing to 25 to 35 km/h early in the morning then tending west to northwesterly 15 to 25 km/h in the afternoon.
http://www.bom.gov.au/vic/forecasts/melbourne.shtml
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THE CERTAINTIES FOR ROUND 20 - Richmond versus Melbourne
Andrew Slevison
SEN
29 July 2023
Balta to take 6+ marks, have 4+ rebound 50s
Noah Balta is in some top form in defence for Richmond.
Last week against Hawthorn he took 14 marks and had six rebound 50s, taking his season average to 6.2 and 5.7 in those two categories.
Balta is the key in defence for the Tigers and his efforts will be instrumental if his side is to continue their winning run.
We’re banking on the athletic Balta to take at least six marks while providing at last four rebound 50s at the MCG on Sunday.
Langdon to have 20+ disposals
Ed Langdon has picked up 20 or more disposals in 11 of 18 games for Melbourne this year.
Four of those have come in the last five weeks.
The wingman has a decent record against the Tigers, particularly recently where he has tallied 82 touches across his last three games.
Langdon should again enjoy the vast expanses of the 'G and gather at last 20 touches this weekend.
https://www.sen.com.au/news/2023/07/28/the-16-certainties-for-the-rest-of-round-20-1/
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Looking at the results so far this round, and if Sydney keeps up the lead, this makes the game v Melbourne more crucial. Need to make a statement and win. Our destiny is in our hands
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Conspiracy theory time - will Melbourne want to win ?? Finishing 4th and not leaving Victoria may be preferable to playing Brisbane/ port interstate.
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Been a round of upsets. If we want it bad enough we will win. Cannot kick the ball long especially into forward 50. Have to make a dirty ground ball game and bring our premiership pressure to the table. If. We play our forward at all costs running game and not bomb it in long we will win.
If we play stupid long down the line crap they will slaughter us
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Hopefully it’s raining otherwise I still think we should play vlas fwd. their lineup looks like JVR is their only tall fwd with melksham their only other marking target. Would expect petracca to spend a lot of time fwd but even so surely balta, young, grimes and broad can handle those 2/3 between them.
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Conspiracy theory time - will Melbourne want to win ?? Finishing 4th and not leaving Victoria may be preferable to playing Brisbane/ port interstate.
If they win they’ll be 1 win off second and not having to leave the G all the way to a flag. They way port and Brisbane are going I wouldn’t put it passed them either.
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I wonder how chopped up the ground is after the rugby last night?
“With an even shorter turnaround from the end of Saturday’s night’s match to gates opening for Sunday’s game between Richmond and Melbourne of just 15 hours.’’
https://www.codesports.com.au/afl/how-mcg-pulled-off-bledisloe-miracle-transformation/news-story/e40e0fa511bee64fec60810ca7ba7c1a
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(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F2QRg7hawAAbmo0?format=jpg&name=large)
https://twitter.com/P_T_Ager/status/1685491427172892672
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NO LATE CHANGES
SUBSTITUTES
Richmond: Matthew Coulthard
Melbourne: Joel Smith
https://www.afl.com.au/news/987255/tigers-demons-lock-in-final-teams-for-crunch-clash-follow-live-from-3-20pm-aest
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Weather change is here.
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F2QnkLybsAAlGdl?format=jpg&name=large)
https://twitter.com/GoldenViews00/status/1685515676184932352
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Just crack in thats all I want
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Clueless - Prestia on Pickett is already a disaster
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Who’s on Kozzy?
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Soldo just bumped Gawn out of the way in the ruck and snapped a goal :gotigers.
Rich 1.0-6
Mel 1.2-8
Lucky to be so close. Been all Dees so far in general play.
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Soldo tap to Dusty lace out out of the centre to Jack 40 out. Goal! :gotigers
Rich 2.0-12
Mel 1.2-8
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Pickett to the hot spot. Gawn spoiled by Ross and Kmac in the goalsquare goals :gotigers
Rich 3.0-18
Mel 1.2-8
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That's crap defending. How can you not spoil that and allow Petty to mark :banghead.
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Bolton bounces out of the centre but his shot on the run hits the post.
19 - 14
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How did Tomlinson get rid of that, ump? ::)
Bolton snap misses.
20 - 14
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Whoever is new coach is needs to teach our smalls/mids to get front and square on the defensive side of marking contests :banghead.
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Jack Graham is so poo
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Twice caught ballwatching :banghead. First on the wing where the Dees missed the target yet got away with it and then 4 Tigers watching Petty take an uncontested mark in their forward line :banghead.
Schoolboy stuff, Tiges! :banghead
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Petty is bathing Balta.
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Can't miss those on the run, Daniel.
21 - 22
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Great tackle Mansell on the wing but again all Dees front and square and no Tiges at that contest. Lucky we got away with it.
Taranto kick forward off the ground. We get out into space and Ross kicks to Dusty alone in the square = Goal! :gotigers
Rich 4.3-27
Mel 3.4-22
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Dusty's kick along the ground from a tight angle is touched on the line.
28 - 22
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Good pressure at HF forces the turnover. Dusty finds Bakes 25 out. Goal! :gotigers
Rich 5.4-34
Mel 3.4-22
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Floss needs to change his stops. Second time he's slipped over.
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Quarter time
Richmond 5.4-34
Melbourne 3.5-23
Goals: Riewoldt, Martin, Soldo, Baker, McIntosh.
Best our midfield-forward line connection has looked all year. Soldo matching up well so far on Gawn.
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Vintage dusty that Q1. Soldo playing very well on Gawn.
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Stats to 1/4 time:
Disposals: 85 - 79 .... ( contested possies: 31 - 33 )
Marks: 23 - 22
Clearances: 9 - 8 .... ( centre: 5 - 3 )
Inside 50s: 11 - 17 .... we're going at 90% efficiency :o.
Tackles: 9 - 18
Hitouts: 8 - 7
Frees: 3 - 0
Dusty 7 possies
Taranto 7
Bolton 6
Prestia 6
Floss 6
https://www.afl.com.au/afl/matches/4953#player-stats
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Dusty from 50 misses.
35 - 23
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Seriously. Grimes and vlastuin both dropping sitters. What has gotten into these two
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Two leaders (Floss and Grimes) dropping sitters and then Young's kick backwards misses :facepalm
U10s errors letting us down again. Sums up the past two years :banghead.
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Scrappy but we get it back via Bolton's soccer.
Rich 6.5-41
Mel 5.5-35
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Prestia good hands to Dusty who laces out to Jack in the pocket. Across the face and rushed.
42 - 35
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Why handball 20m when you could kick it and get the mark rather than put your teammate under pressure?
Use your brains, Tigers!
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Another goal to them via our stupid brainfades! :banghead
Richmond vs Richmondy this quarter :banghead.
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Sub Grimes.
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It’s our basic skill errors that just kill us week in week out. We could
Be dominating if we just executed basic skills
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Vlas and Grimes having nightmares. Vlas back to his early season form, grimes unfortunately this is his level now.
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Grimes is killing us.
He is an absolute panic merchant these days.
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OMG!
Baker goal :gotigers but geez we are clueless out there this quarter (that handball to Soldo's feet :P)
Rich 7.6-48
Mel 6.5-41
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That would have been paid "insufficient intent" if we did that ::).
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What a goal!
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Dusty good underground handball. Nice fakes by Hopper. Rioli snaps the goal :gotigers.
Rich 8.6-54
Mel 6.5-41
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Bolton gets the better of Petracca. Chips to Bakes inside 50 who chips again inboard to Prestia . Goal! :gotigers
Rich 9.7-61
Mel 6.5-41
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The fix is in. Disgusting how these pencil pushers have ruined our game.
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Oh I course we get pinged for HTB when Melbourne have been getting away with the exact same dropping of the ball ::) :thumbsdown.
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Joke of a decision. Gifted them a goal
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stuff just exit the league and start a new one. This is poo.
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But they say umps don't change the momentum of games ::).
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But they say umps don't change the momentum of games ::).
Exactly. And no one ever seems to care? Good football hasn't made this a better game. poo umpiring has made it a closer game. But that's not better.
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Another dumb play from soldo. Macintosh manning the marking and soldo comes and stands next to him?
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Half-time
Richmond 5.4 9.7-61
Melbourne/Umps 3.5 8.5-53
Goals: Baker 2, Riewoldt, Martin, Soldo, Prestia, McIntosh, Bolton, D.Rioli
Umps had to get the Dees back into the game :thumbsdown.
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Oh I course we get pinged for HTB when Melbourne have been getting away with the exact same dropping of the ball ::) :thumbsdown.
Millers had 2 on Tomlinson alone with no reward.
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Honestly, a couple of very poor skill errors/decisions aside, I thought we were bloody brilliant. Not bombing it long into the fwd line at every opportunity and even when we do we are bringing it to ground. Think lever + may have only had 3 intercept marks combined. Tackling and pressuring is immense too. Play like that second half and I’m confident we’ll get the 4 point :gotigers
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Interesting the mic picked up Jack talking to umpire Nicholls.
If you have to see it again Nicholls to know for sure what happened then why did you pay HTB against Hopper? If it's not clear then you don't guess and pay it then penalise us further with a 50 :thumbsdown.
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stuff u umpires - dumb pricks stuffed us big time
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Stats to HT:
Disposals: 190 - 165 ..... ( contested: 68 - 66 )
Marks: 50 - 41
Clearances: 17 - 22 .... ( centre: 8 - 9 )
Inside 50s: 28 - 32
Tackles: 30 - 33
Hitouts: 12 - 22
Frees: 5 - 2 .... doesn't include the two freebie 50m penalties Melbourne got ::).
Taranto 14 possies
Martin 13
Prestia 13
Vlastuin 13
Ross 11
Young 11
Banks 10
Pickett 10
D.Rioli 10
Baker 9
Balta 9
Graham 9
Mansell 9
Bolton 8
Hopper 8
Kmac 6
Miller 6
Broad 5
Cotch 5
Riewoldt 5
Soldo 4
Grimes 2
Coulthard 0 .... sub not used yet.
https://www.afl.com.au/afl/matches/4953#player-stats
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Enough is enough. Sick and tired of the umpires totally trying to destroy us. F me, 2 sets of rules as always and they always manage to change momentum. Richmond show some balls and F the fines. Go public and bring all the evidence with you. There's thousands of evidence. I'm glad Jack had a word to the umpires but they don't gaf
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Hats off to Mansell. Our only player that tackles with intensity and to hurt. Only of we had more with his tackling attitude
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Good rebound. Ross to Bolton who finds Dusty 25 out. Goal! :gotigers
Rich 10.7-67
Mel 8.5-53
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Ross is easily our MIP. I thought he was done for, but he has been excellent the second half
Of this season
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OMG we actually a HTB in our favour in F50! :o
Hunting F50 pressure from the stoppage and Taranto with the tackle. Goal! :gotigers
Rich 11.7-73
Mel 8.5-53
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Bloody schoolboy errors :banghead. What were Floss and Balta thinking and doing there? :scream
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Dusty receives and bursts out of the middle to get it straight back :gotigers.
Rich 12.7-79
Mel 9.5-59
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Spoil at HF, not go for the contested mark in the wet and fumble :banghead.
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They have to retire Grimes surely..
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Defenders really keeping Melbourne in this. Balta or vlas either just needed to punch it through for the first and grimes just drops a chest mark after he did all the hard work.
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Nice tap by Soldo to Cotch but the snap misses.
80 - 65
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Is balta the dumbest player in the afl?
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Why the poor discipline?
Gifting them goals with stupid 50's
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Another 50 gifts them a goal ::).
Gawn dived ::).
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Our defence to their slow high ball has been freaking ordinary today.
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Balta and young no where near petty. WTF are they doing down there ? Where’s the leadership ? Meant to be coming from grimes
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Writing is on the wall here
. Dumb errors.
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I’m not what Balta is going out there to be honest.
Costing us goal at the minute
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Balta and young no where near petty. WTF are they doing down there ? Where’s the leadership ? Meant to be coming from grimes
Balta was his man. Was with him for the first 2-3 leads then just gave up on it.
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May just drops the ball and no free >:(.
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If we lose you can blame it squarely on balta at this stage.
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Balta has given up. Terrible. :help
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Give us a HTB decision. This is ridiculous
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Are you stiffen serious grimes ????? Handball it through for a point. So so so dumb
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Another defensive brainfade.
Sub time Mini. Get Coulthard on.
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Our backline has gone to water seriously
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Balta just watched another contest and didn’t give grimes any assistance at all.
He’s a liability now.
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Get grimes off.
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Sub time Mini. Get Coulthard on.
Right on time :gotigers
Rich 13.8-86
Mel 14.5-89
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3/4 time
Richmond 5.4 9.7 13.8-86
Melbourne/Umps 3.5 8.5 14.5-89
Goals: Martin 3, Baker 2, Riewoldt, Soldo, Prestia, McIntosh, Bolton, D.Rioli, Taranto, Coulthard.
Melbourne willing the territory battle in the last 15 mins. We need a huge lift to turn it around from our mids.
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Stats to 3QT:
Disposals: 265 - 273 ..... ( contested: 104 - 108 )
Marks: 58 - 61 .... we took just 8 marks that 3rd qtr.
Clearances: 33 - 33 .... ( centre: 14 - 14 )
Inside 50s: 39 - 52
Tackles: 46 - 48
Hitouts: 27 - 36
Frees: 8 - 5
Taranto 20 possies
Bolton 19
Prestia 19
Martin 17
Floss 16
Young 16
https://www.afl.com.au/afl/matches/4953#player-stats
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If we lose you can blame it squarely on balta at this stage.
More like squarely on the entire key position defender brigade. Gifting them goals it’s Christmas. If we lose it’s all on grimes, balta, vlas, young and broad.
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Pin the arm Tiges :banghead/
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Lever left Dusty on his own at the HF stoppage. Dusty to Soldo chips to Kmac 30 out. Goal! :gotigers
Scores level.
Rich 14.8-92
Mel 14.8-92
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Bolton out of the middle. Balta moved forward, too strong and goals :gotigers.
Hold on they want a review to find an excuse not to give it ::).
It was a clear goal you idiots!
Rich 15.8-98
Mel 14.8-92
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Umps again doing Melbourne a favour just as we take the lead :thumbsdown.
Two HTB interpretations today >:(.
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Not a fan of that call htb against Taranto fmd
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When was the last time 3 players kicked 4+ on us
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Melksham and Petty. VFL like forward line. Backline been inipid today.
Plenty of winner but far out defense need a bath.
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Mansell high = no free
Ross high = no free
::)
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Every Melbourne goal has either come from the umps or our defensive schoolboy brainfades :facepalm.
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Petty, melksham and van rooyen = Ablett snr, Lockett and Dunstan to our defenders apparently.
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Broad taken high and then gets pinged for HTB. Disgraceful umpiring >:(.
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Flat out on our feet and with our brains.
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Only themselves to blame for this loss
Backline has been weak as pee
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Fatigue has set in and we've got nothing left. Making mistakes galore now.
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What a shame. A great performance from Bolton, Martin. Our defence was absolutely disgraceful. The worse I can recall. Yet again shows we just aren’t good enough
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Pathetic last qtr
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Hard to see our defence be so easily decimated. Was our strength for so many. years. Balta, as brilliant as he can be, just might lack the intelligence and mental toughness to be a great defender. He gave up today. Grimes is a shell of himself and young just isnt that good. Vlastuin makes more mistakes than ever and is slipping over like no one else. With our only promising defender coming through being gibcus ( and even he has barely played so who knows where he sits now ) we start to look pretty bare down there.
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What a shame. A great performance from Bolton, Martin. Our defence was absolutely disgraceful. The worse I can recall. Yet again shows we just aren’t good enough
Umpires take the steam out of us and we are done. Beaten by a better team though.
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Pathetic last qtr
Just not good enough. Don’t deserve to play finals. They killed us since midway through the third. Reality check against a good side. Mini has got us wins against mediocre teams.
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Could have won it. Should have won it. Real shame. Agree just not good enough
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It was looking like being a great contest until the umpires pulled together to kill it …. :-\
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The umps didn’t lose this for us.
Gawn and their midfield destroyed our mids in the last q.
There’s ya game.
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7 of the last 8 free kicks to Melbourne, the anointed ones.
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Final Score
Richmond 5.4 9.7 13.8 15.8-98
Melbourne 3.5 8.5 14.5 20.10-130
Goals: Martin 3, Baker 2, Riewoldt, Soldo, Prestia, McIntosh, Bolton, D.Rioli, Taranto, Coulthard.
The last 20 minutes was 6.2 to nothing :help. Had no answer to Gawn. Once that dodgy HTB free went against Taranto and Melbourne got level we didn't give another yelp.
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Laughable Grimes stayed and Miller subbed. On that decision alone I don't want Mini to get the job. He keeps choosing old blokes instead of the future.
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Laughable Grimes stayed and Miller subbed. On that decision alone I don't want Mini to get the job. He keeps choosing old blokes instead of the future.
Can you say that in any more threads
How about posting it in the sack mini thread
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It was disappointing to say the least considering what was on the line and how we were in a position to complete upset round.
Our defence was bizarrely out of sorts today. I get players can have bad games but for Balta and grimes to be out of sorts and Vlastuin being a liability in the first half, we don’t have enough talent to cover that.
It’s such a shame because Martin wound the clock back and the midfield had great ascendancy for large patches of the game
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How can you let Petty kick 6, Melsksham 4 & Van Rooyen 4.
Grimes, Balta Broad & Young all trounced today.
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Few take aways.
Melbourne are best team in the comp. With Oliver, Fritsch to come back in. Load up.
Our best is still excellent. Unfortunately a lot has to go right for that to happen. When Dusty and Bolton are firing, we are top tier.
Defense who have been very good all year, were off today. Broad, Balta and Vlastuin all dropped in form massively. Grimes who has been average all year stayed average. Young did OK at times.
Ultimately, we aren't a top 4 team and went very close to beating them.
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Laughable Grimes stayed and Miller subbed. On that decision alone I don't want Mini to get the job. He keeps choosing old blokes instead of the future.
Just for Chucky
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The game followed the same pattern as the Anzac game earlier in the season. We lead for most of it, but Melbourne got on top in the guts after half-time via Gawn and they suffocated and overran us.
Petty and Melksham kicking 10 goals between them is an indictment of how poorly our backline played :facepalm.
Van Rooyen also says hi again to Matt Clarke for overlooking him. That's 7 goals he has kicked against us this year.
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Lot of doom and gloom on here but I thought we were miles better this week than last week, and Gawn & Petracca took over in the last and we couldn't go with them. They are a premiership contender and we clearly are not, but this wasn't our worst performance by a long shot. Riewoldt and Cotchin will announce their retirements very soon, finals are out of the question. Let's get games into a couple of kids that deserve a genuine chance: Bauer, Brown and maybe get Sonsie in.
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Melbourne went up a gear and we just couldn’t follow . Our endeavour was great .
The one thing that stood out for me today was our fumbling . Great players like Grines, Floss, Prestia , Broad, fumbled at crucial times. I wonder if being a yard slower now forces panic on them
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Time to make hard decisions on our champions none of this bs I'll leave it up to them like mini said put the club first.
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Max gawn had something like 13 possessions in the last quarter? He went up a gear that very few can match. Unlike the Anzac match where I think the score flattered us I think we had a solid dip for 3 quarters. We absolutely got over ran by the talent of a top 4 side
The only negative for me is Balta had his colours lowered bad.
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Massive opportunity to make our move to in the top 8 and we let it slip
20 points up in the 3rd and we gifted then some soft goals
The Grimes deliberate was a game changer. He should be embarrassed by that.
However, the final qtr was ruined by the umpires... we didn't stand a chance the moment they pinged us for 3 HTBs in a row
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Yet you defend them WP by repeatedly telling us it's a hard game to officiate. :shh
I laugh when people defend those scum bags, and how our games get treated compared to others. Kosi Pickett goal, those other stupid decisions in the last, Tom lynch last year. I could name 1000 examples and unless you're blind then those rats cannot be defended in any way.
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Such a big game this week but surely Cotch is omitted. Playing one down with him in the team currently. The champ is past it :shh
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You were even worse. :shh
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Probably the best we have looked all year ….just not good enough.
Our defence which has been very good all year let us down today.
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You were even worse. :shh
:shh :shh :shh
Don’t talk to Fridge like that
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Team stats:
Disposals: 334 - 363 .... ( contested: 139 - 144 ; uncontested: 183 - 213 )
Efficiency%: 67 - 71
Kicks: 204 - 227
Handballs: 130 - 136
Turnovers: 70 - 68
Marks: 70 - 95 .... ( contested marks: 6 - 13 ) :P
Tackles: 63 - 62
Clearances: 40 - 49 .... ( centre: 15 - 18 ; stoppages: 25 - 31 ) :help
Inside 50s: 47 - 73 :help
In50 eff.%: 45 - 52 ...... halved from 90% in the first quarter.
In50 marks: 10 - 20 :help
In50 tackles: 10 - 14
Hitouts: 34 - 48
Bounces: 7 - 3
One %ers: 60 - 41
Frees: 9 - 11 ::)
Individual possessions:
Bolton 25
Taranto 24
Hopper 23
Martin 21
Prestia 21
Vlastuin 20
Young 19
Graham 17
Ross 17
D.Rioli 16
Banks 15
Pickett 15
Balta 13
Mansell 13
Broad 12
Baker 11
McIntosh 10
Soldo 10
Cotchin 9
Riewoldt 8
Grimes 6
Miller 6 ..... ( subbed off late third quarter )
Coulthard 3 .... ( subbed on late third quarter )
https://www.afl.com.au/afl/matches/4953#player-stats
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CLEARANCE SHOOT-OUT
Mark Robinson
HeraldSun
31 July 2023
It was a wonderful game of Australian Rules at the MCG on Sunday, although not sure the coaches will look fondly at the clearance impact. This was two midfields with a super aggressive attitude which means they weren’t always super keen to work defensively. The Tigers gave up 12 goals from clearance which is more than double the AFL average. Their next worst result this year was seven goals in Round 2 versus Adelaide. They might have been unlucky on the back of Max Gawn’s dominance, but they also might’ve been too kick-chasing instead of defending better. Melbourne also gave up nine goals from clearance and although they won the battle on Sunday, those sorts of numbers won’t win them the war in September. When the final margin was five goals, three-goal differential was far too much leeway from the Tigers.
https://www.codesports.com.au/afl/the-tackle-mark-robinsons-likes-and-dislikes-from-round-20/news-story/b9938614c6b91f24638e040fe8790345
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43 to 75 inside tells a story. It didn't feel like that watching.
Our mids should be horrified by that stat.
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AFL Report Card: Round 20
Ben Cotton, Ben Waterworth, David Zita and Catherine Healey
Foxsports
31 July 2023
RICHMOND
The Tigers would beat most sides with the level they showed on Sunday, but unfortunately faced a Melbourne side that is clicking into gear at the right time of year. There’ll be positives to take out for aspiring senior coach Andrew McQualter, but the final quarter was a stark reminder there is a gap between Richmond and the top sides in the competition, even though they’re still in the hunt for a finals berth. The Western Bulldogs are up next and that will be a fascinating contest in the context of the top eight race.
In the votes
Dustin Martin kicked three goals, had chances at more and was in sparkling form. He looms large in the final few weeks of the Tigers’ home and away campaign. Shai Bolton also offered plenty and Dion Prestia flew the flag in the middle.
Room for improvement
Ivan Soldo did his best but ultimately was run ragged by Max Gawn. The Tigers desperately missed the suspended Toby Nankervis given the task Gawn presents. The final quarter saw them left in the dust by the Dees, managing two goals but conceding 6.4.
Grade
B
https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/afl-news-2023-round-20-report-card-highlights-grades-analysis-every-club-reviewed-best-and-worst-players-video-stats/news-story/c7d9105bbf70af4fc99d8814cf53effa
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Coaches' votes (McQualter & Goodwin)
Richmond v Melbourne
10 Max Gawn (MELB)
8 Harrison Petty (MELB)
6 Jack Viney (MELB)
4 Dustin Martin (RICH)
2 Christian Petracca (MELB)
https://www.afl.com.au/news/992402/coaches-votes-r20-greene-makes-a-move-six-perfect-10s
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You were even worse. :shh
:shh :shh :shh
Don’t talk to Fridge like that
MC told me i played my role well :shh
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You were even worse. :shh
:shh :shh :shh
Don’t talk to Fridge like that
MC told me i played my role well :shh
You always do mate
That’s been told to us all on this site many a time
Did take you almost a year and a half to secure more coaches votes , but you got there mate .. kudos
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CLEARANCE SHOOT-OUT
Mark Robinson
HeraldSun
31 July 2023
It was a wonderful game of Australian Rules at the MCG on Sunday, although not sure the coaches will look fondly at the clearance impact. This was two midfields with a super aggressive attitude which means they weren’t always super keen to work defensively. The Tigers gave up 12 goals from clearance which is more than double the AFL average. Their next worst result this year was seven goals in Round 2 versus Adelaide. They might have been unlucky on the back of Max Gawn’s dominance, but they also might’ve been too kick-chasing instead of defending better. Melbourne also gave up nine goals from clearance and although they won the battle on Sunday, those sorts of numbers won’t win them the war in September. When the final margin was five goals, three-goal differential was far too much leeway from the Tigers.
https://www.codesports.com.au/afl/the-tackle-mark-robinsons-likes-and-dislikes-from-round-20/news-story/b9938614c6b91f24638e040fe8790345
Scary to think they won the battle without their best clearance contested ball winner in oliver. They get him back and fit for finals and they are gunna take some stopping.
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OVERREACTIONS, POSITIVES & NEGATIVES FOR ROUND 20
Andrew Slevison
SEN
1 August 2023
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The Key Takeaway: Good enough, but not for long enough
Richmond played well on Sunday.
Their best was pretty good, but it just wasn’t for long enough.
They allowed Melbourne to continually drive the ball inside 50 in the second half and eventually the dam wall burst.
The inside-50 count in the second half read 41-17 in favour of the Demons, including 21-6 in the final quarter. Those numbers proved costly for the Tigers in the end.
Andrew McQualter’s side was great in the first half, and decent for part of the third term, but it all finally came to a head and resulted in a 32-point loss.
The Positive: Ability to match it with a top-four team
Despite the defeat, the Tigers did match it with a team at the pointy end of the ladder.
The result probably shows where they are at - around five goals worse than the top four - but the performance for much of the game suggests they can still play a role in the finals, provided they make it.
Richmond’s best footy is pretty solid and it led to a 20-point lead early in the third term.
McQualter will take plenty away from the defeat but there is not much time to think about things with a season-defining fixture against the Western Bulldogs at Marvel Stadium on Friday night.
If they can sneak into the eight they could possibly do some damage. If they lose that, then it’s going to be awfully difficult and the ability to match it with a team inside the four will be null and void.
The Negative: Defence outplayed, midfield beaten
The Tigers’ defence has been their bedrock in recent years, but on Sunday it was badly shown up.
Harrison Petty, Jake Melksham and Jacob Van Rooyen formed somewhat of a makeshift forward line in the absence of injured duo Bayley Fritsch and Tom McDonald, and with Ben Brown and Brodie Grundy out of the side.
Petty had kicked 4.1 for the year prior to his career-best bag of six straight, Melksham had kicked 11 for the season and no more than two in a game in 2023, while Van Rooyen hadn’t kicked multiple goals in a game since Round 6.
That trio combined for 14.0 in a remarkable showing of forward line execution, dominating the Richmond defence of Noah Balta, Nathan Broad, Tylar Young and co.
As mentioned earlier, the inside 50s kept coming made possible by Melbourne’s dominance around the contest in kicking 76 of their 120 points from clearances.
The Tigers lost clearances 49-40 in the end with the Dees doing most of their damage late in the game once they had broken the backs of their opponents.
https://www.sen.com.au/news/2023/07/31/overreactions-positives-negatives-and-undroppables-for-all-18-afl-teams-in-20/
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MELBOURNE V RICHMOND REVIEW – A DIFFERENT LENS
https://themongrelpunt.com/afl-season-2023/2023/08/01/melbourne-v-richmond-a-different-lens/
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Kane Cornes hits out at Richmond's midfield after their last quarter performance against Melbourne.
LISTEN HERE: https://twitter.com/1116sen/status/1686606501245255680
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Kane Cornes hits out at Richmond's midfield after their last quarter performance against Melbourne.
LISTEN HERE: https://twitter.com/1116sen/status/1686606501245255680
Fair enough imo they were dreadful
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Melbourne looking pretty ordinary under Norf Melbourne pressure. If only we could have produced that last week.
35-8 at qtr time
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Melbourne looking pretty ordinary under Norf Melbourne pressure. If only we could have produced that last week.
35-8 at qtr time
The Melbourne loss cost us finals IMHO
Not Friday night's insipid display
We match up much better against Melb. Should not have lost that game
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..Melbourne looking pretty ordinary under Norf Melbourne pressure. If only we could have produced that last week.
35-8 at qtr time
The Melbourne loss cost us finals IMHO
Get what you mean, but Round 1, Dreamtime and the first loss to Dogs cost us finals. Plus losing Lynch.