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Football => Richmond Rant => Topic started by: one-eyed on June 08, 2006, 03:45:51 PM
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B: Kellaway, Hall, Raines
H/B: Newman, J Bowden, Polo
C: Tivendale, Coughlan, Johnson
H/F: Pettifer, Pattison, Tambling
F: Brown, Stafford, Deledio
R: Simmonds, Tuck, Hyde
I/C: P Bowden, Foley, Meyer, Krakouer
Emergencies: Gaspar, Knobel, White
In: Brown, Deledio, Krakouer
Out: Gaspar, Knobel, White
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Terry's gone for skill in the backline over height. Gas got through training so it looks as though he's been dropped. I don't have a problem with it as IMO both Gas and Razor can no longer be played in the same backline although it'll be interesting if North now stack their forward line with both big lugs Thompson and Rocca to stretch us for height and size. I'm sure Caro will write another article about Gas being on the outer :whistle.
Surprised Knobel got dropped ahead of Staff. We'll need Staff to help out Simmo in the ruck now. Maybe we're trying to give Staff the 4 games he needs to reach 200.
Krak would be doubtful so I wouldn't be surprised if Whitey comes back into the 22.
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I dont think Gaspar or Knobel should have been dropped, i suppose it gives Knobel the chance to keep his fitness up by playing a full game in the ruck but Stafford was terrible last week.
Gaspar also played ok and i think he would be disappointed to be dropped.
White also stiff, but as you say MT krak appears to be in doubt still so he may come back in.
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i thnk the selections are ok. its difficult to pick ur best 22 when things are looking good.
i think staff is staying because last week he was stiff, he lead well and was on the wrong end of many umpiring decisions. knob i feel is very underated , he has a huge influence when rucking but staff is a better option up fwd.
brown and krak are named so 2 have to go, gas and white were the obv choice, cos we cannot afford to have 50/50 skilled kickers running out of defence, its either chubba hall or gas, and gas is the obv choice.
white, is stiff but if krak is fit, he deserves to get a jumper, his previous month has been fantastic.
im not worried about nths height as much as i used to, as its up to th emidfield to stop easy access to nths fwdline.
we have to watch wells and grant.
im confident that if we play our best footy and are hard at it we can win easy
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I don't agree with the Knobel or Gaspar decisions.
I agree with MT that having both Hall and Gaspar in the back line but I would have dropped Hall before Gaspar. I thought Gas did reasonably OK in what was a bad match up.
We need Knobel's smarts in the ruck IMO. I think he is a mucher better tap ruckman than Simmonds. Look at the goal assists from ruck contest stats and you'll find Knobel's a leader in that = footy smarts
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i agree, wp, but i think its a team balance thing
we cant have knob, patto, staff and simmo in the one team.
i really believe staff is only there to replace richo not knob. as soon as richo is back i bet knob will be too .
hall is prob in the team because he is a better kick than gas and nothing else.
knob is a hard call, i woudl rather him in as a ruck and not staff, but i feel staff isnt in the team for his rucking, just to stand in the square.
i know hale is rucking well for the roos, but they have no one else. its not like the roos have 2 quality rucks so i feel terry is going into this game with one ruck in simmo, and patto and staff as backups
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i agree, wp, but i think its a team balance thing
we cant have knob, patto, staff and simmo in the one team.
Agree with that X and Staff only being in the side because Richo is out but he needs to kick more goals. I've got nothing to back this us but I still feel we're going to help him reach 200 games. I can understand some of the reasoning behind the decision as Knobel wins the hitouts but does nothing else whereas Staff can play forward, kick a few goals and as well at least contest the ruck. But Staff's form hasn't been one of kicking goals or at least enough to warrant a starting spot at FF. I'd rather we went with Sarge if we need a replacement FF but he mustn't be right yet.
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just been thinking about gas,
maybe tw gave him specific roles and goals to achieve in the freo game. we dont really know what th einhouse stuff is, but maybe terry asked him to do something and he didnt thus got the chop. just a thought
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i agree, wp, but i think its a team balance thing
we cant have knob, patto, staff and simmo in the one team.
Agree with that X and Staff only being in the side because Richo is out but he needs to kick more goals. I've got nothing to back this us but I still feel we're going to help him reach 200 games. I can understand some of the reasoning behind the decision as Knobel wins the hitouts but does nothing else whereas Staff can play forward, kick a few goals and as well at least contest the ruck. But Staff's form hasn't been one of kicking goals or at least enough to warrant a starting spot at FF. I'd rather we went with Sarge if we need a replacement FF but he mustn't be right yet.
i agree mt, i heard whispers that jay is ok but pulled up sore thus hasnt been selected. im sure he will play next week esp if staff does not kick at least 4
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just been thinking about gas,
maybe tw gave him specific roles and goals to achieve in the freo game. we dont really know what th einhouse stuff is, but maybe terry asked him to do something and he didnt thus got the chop. just a thought
As stoppers you couldn't blame any of our backmen last week. None of the Freo forwards got away. I think Pavlich got 3 but he hardly had a influential impact on the result. I think Terry knows we've been burnt off withb pace by the Roos midfielders in the past - Simpson, Grant, Harris (not so much Wells). So this week go with more skilled by foot runners both in the midfield and rebounding out defence. Gas then becomes the obvious casualty.
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i agree mt, i heard whispers that jay is ok but pulled up sore thus hasnt been selected. im sure he will play next week esp if staff does not kick at least 4
Thanks X. Fair enough then about Sarge not playing.
Staff not only needs to kick a few himself but drag some Roo defenders with him in one direction to leave space open for our other forwards to lead and mark. Last week especially in the first half we went inside 50 heaps of times but the final pass was continually spoiled.
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North side and changes:
B: Sinclair Brown Makepeace
HB: Pratt Watt Archer
C: Green Harris Simpson
HF: Ch.Jones Thompson Grant
F: Harvey J.Rawlings Co.Jones
R: Hale Wells B.Rawlings
Int: Petrie, Sansbury, Gibson, Firrito
Emerg: Harding, Thurley, Schwarze
IN: Firrito, Ch Jones, Sansbury
OUT: McIntosh, Thurley, Swallow
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No McIntosh means North have gone with one designated ruckman also in Hale. They'll need Petrie to chip in now. Either our club spies have done well lol or Laidley has just copied Wallace. Glad Sav wasn't brought in either.
I hope Terry chucks Blingers and Lids forward during the game and we get the ball inside forward 50 quickly. That North backline has some big bodies but looks slow!
:gotigers
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. Glad Sav wasn't brought in either.
me too! we will win no doubt now. thompson and rawlings wont kick enough combined to win. thommo is capable of a bag but he wont do it alone like he did v the hawks
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Either our club spies have done well lol or Laidley has just copied Wallace. Glad Sav wasn't brought in either.
Do we have a club spy? :shh
Aaahhh, is that sauce? :shh :lol
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True X. We won't be putting someone like poor skinny Zac Dawson on Thompson like Clarkson did.
Either our club spies have done well lol or Laidley has just copied Wallace. Glad Sav wasn't brought in either.
Do we have a club spy? :shh
Aaahhh, is that sauce? :shh :lol
:lol
Sauce said North are crap lol.
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i am not sure if krak will get up for this game.
If he doesnt come up look for White to come in for him ;)
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i am not sure if krak will get up for this game.
If he doesnt come up look for White to come in for him ;)
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i am not sure if krak will get up for this game.
If he doesnt come up look for White to come in for him ;)
i heard that too!
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i am not sure if krak will get up for this game.
If he doesnt come up look for White to come in for him ;)
i heard that too! :lol
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are you guys auditioning for ASIO or something :lol
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are you guys auditioning for ASIO or something :lol
i cant answer that, u have to understand why :lol :rollin
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Well you could, but then you'd have to kill him.
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Well you could, but then you'd have to kill him.
shhhhhhhhh!
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True X. We won't be putting someone like poor skinny Zac Dawson on Thompson like Clarkson did.
Either our club spies have done well lol or Laidley has just copied Wallace. Glad Sav wasn't brought in either.
Do we have a club spy? :shh
Aaahhh, is that sauce? :shh :lol
is the sauce Kikkoman?
:lol
Sauce said North are crap lol.
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is the sauce Kikkoman?
:lol
The Roos soy him at Arden St :outtahere
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is the sauce Kikkoman?
:lol
The Roos soy him at Arden St :outtahere
:clapping :rollin
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From The Age
Andrew Stafford
June 10, 2006
Richmond star Nathan Brown's much-anticipated return to senior football after seven weeks on the sidelines comes after a light training session at Punt Road yesterday.
The 28-year-old did some individual skills work and goalkicking practice, while the rest of the squad, including Brett Deledio and Andrew Krakouer, who also return from injury, put in a solid 40-minute session including running and long-kicking drills.
Assistant coach David King said that the day before a match, Brown "generally doesn't do the whole session" and that he was "feeling fantastic" ahead of today's game against the Kangaroos.
"Nathan's been through his patch, we've given him a rest and he's right to go," King said.
The return of Deledio and Krakouer gives the Tigers added pace, at the expense of Darren Gaspar, Trent Knobel and Matthew White.
http://www.realfooty.theage.com.au/realfooty/articles/2006/06/09/1149815318308.html
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Brown to monitor comeback
The Australian
June 10, 2006
RICHMOND forward Nathan Brown has been given the green light to coach himself on his much-anticipated return today against the Kangaroos.
Brown hasn't played since the round three match against West Coast, battling soreness related to the horrific leg fracture sustained in round 10 last season.
He will make his second comeback against the Kangaroos at the MCG, with Brett Deledio and Andrew Krakouer also back from knee injuries to bolster the Tigers.
Brown sat out some of the contact drills at training yesterday, but assistant coach David King said he was ready to play.
"He's keen, he's desperate to play," King said.
"It's been a tragedy what's happened over the last 12 months but he's right to play. The day before the game he generally doesn't do the whole session but he's feeling fantastic, his body's right and we hope he has an impact on (today's) game."
King said the 28-year-old would mostly dictate his return to the Tigers forward line.
"There will be some sort of reduced scale in terms of minutes played but I think he'll dictate how many minutes he plays," King said.
"There'll be times when he goes up and plays high in the midfield and he'll probably play a little bit deep forward as well.
"It's whatever his body allows. It's up to him, he will let us know how he's going throughout the game."
Meanwhile, King said the return of the speedy trio, as well as the difficulty matching up against Kangaroos spearhead Nathan Thompson, was behind veteran defender Darren Gaspar's omission from the team.
He said it did not herald the beginning of the end for the former All-Australian, who has been sidelined recently with a hamstring injury.
"We've gone for pace. Darren probably got a game ahead of schedule last week. He's played one game in six weeks and we had a few out last week and he was rushed back in," King said.
"He's probably not at match fitness yet and playing full-back you need to be 100 per cent right and have everything going for you to hold down a player like Nathan Thompson, so we probably thought he wasn't there yet."
After falling to Fremantle last weekend, Richmond needs a win to keep in touch with the eight, while the Kangaroos came achingly close to a much-needed victory before being overrun by the Swans.
"It would be nice to keep things going. We've had a pretty good month of footy and if we can keep our form right we should go along way towards winning," said King, who played 241 games with the Kangaroos before joining the Tigers' coaching ranks in 2004.
"The Kangas are in pretty good form.
"They have played a lot of top sides in the last six weeks and they played well last Sunday and probably should have won, so we don't go in with any disrespect for the Kangas. They're a quality outfit."
http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,20867,19421239-36035,00.html
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Truth is it's only a matter of time befor he fuchs his leg again.
Career is pretty much over.