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AFL Round 8
RICHMOND vs Fremantle
Sunday, 5th May @ the M.C.G.
Start time: 1:00 PM
Odds: (Sportsbet)
Richmond $2.71
Fremantle $1.47
https://www.afl.com.au/afl/matches/5964
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Richmond v Fremantle Preview
Martin Pegan
afl.com.au
1 May 2024
Last time: Richmond 12.13 (85) d Fremantle 10.10 (70), R13 2023
What it means
Richmond (1-6) has continued to battle hard without quite getting its just reward on the scoreboard, especially when on its home turf at the MCG. The injury-ravaged Tigers will have to call on yet more reinforcements as they look to prove that they can still compete with clubs hovering around the middle of the ladder even while gradually refreshing their own side.
Fremantle (4-3) might have suffered the wake up call it needed two rounds ago against West Coast. The Dockers released the shackles to bounce back from their Western Derby defeat with a victory over Western Bulldogs, but now need to show it was more than just a once off while taking on the Tigers at a venue where they have won three of their past five matches.
Game shapers
Dustin Martin has looked like a ticking time bomb waiting to explode this season as the triple Norm Smith medallist has averaged 18.6 disposals and only booted four goals in five matches. But with onball bull Jacob Hopper the latest addition to the Tigers' lengthy injury list, the time is now for Martin to return to his familiar role at the coalface and take a game by the scruff of the neck.
Nat Fyfe turned back the clock with 37 disposals, including 18 contested, against Western Bulldogs last week. The former Dockers skipper had been building towards having that sort of impact again, and gathered 13 clearances a week earlier against the Eagles, but now looms as a not-so-secret weapon in the midfield that can already turn to its strength around the stoppages.
Early tip: Fremantle by 17 points
https://www.afl.com.au/news/1119570/r8-preview-rivalries-reignited-dees-cats-in-monster-saturday-night-clash
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Richmond v Fremantle Preview
Andrew Slevison
SEN
1 May 2024
Richmond enters this Sunday afternoon fixture off the back of a 43-point loss to Melbourne where they were more than competitive for almost three quarters.
Fremantle got back on there winners’ list by beating the Bulldogs by 24 points in Perth in Round 7. It was a much-needed result after three straight defeats.
The fact that this match is at the MCG would hold no fears for the Dockers who have three of their last five at the venue, including two big wins over Melbourne.
They get a Tigers side that is devoid of a lot of senior players with the likes of Tim Taranto, Jacob Hopper, Dion Prestia, Tom Lynch and Noah Balta, plus a few more, sidelined.
One major issue facing Adem Yze is a somewhat makeshift forward line that has been unable to hit the scoreboard regularly enough across 2024, and in the last three weeks in particular. The Tigers have averaged just 57 points in those three consecutive defeats and are the second lowest scoring side in the AFL so far.
What makes that scenario even more difficult for Richmond is that Freo boasts the third measliest defence (conceding an average of 70 points per game) in the league.
Where do the Tigers get their goals from? Shai Bolton leads the way with 15, so you can pencil him in for one or two, but next on the list is Liam Baker (7), Mykelti Lefau (7) and Maurice Rioli (6). It doesn’t scream a winning score.
The Tigers are also down on quality midfielders so expect the likes of Caleb Serong, Andrew Brayshaw and Nat Fyfe to get busy in the middle and dominate clearance.
It’s hard to trust the Dockers, who have a fondness for swiftly mixing their form, but it’s just hard to see them not being able to stymy Richmond’s undermanned attack.
The expected return of Jye Amiss, plus Josh Treacy, Luke Jackson and co. should create enough headaches for Richmond’s defence, and although the Tigers will likely be competitive for large portions, they just lack the star power.
On the flip side, the Dockers have enough good players playing well enough to see this one out.
Tip: Fremantle by 16 points.
https://www.sen.com.au/news/2024/05/01/who-will-win-and-why-the-tips-and-predictions-for-afl-round-8/
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Yze's presser:
https://www.richmondfc.com.au/video/1544097/we-wanna-play-an-exciting-brand-of-footy-on-offence-yze
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Without Lynch and Balta the Tigers have struggled to produce a competitive score, but Yze said they remained committed to playing attacking, exciting football regardless of personnel or facing strong opposition.
“We have no issue with wanting to play an aggressive brand of footy … we have a go, we want to win the ball back really quickly and take the game on,” he said.
“We want to play an exciting brand of footy on offence, so we want to bring that out on Sunday.”
https://www.news.com.au/sport/afl/afl-2024-jayden-short-returns-but-richmond-wont-risk-dion-prestia/news-story/9cf982150da653b77955cf7beff725cf
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The certainties for Round 8 - Richmond versus Fremantle
Andrew Slevison
SEN
4 May 2024
D.Rioli to have 20+ disposals
Daniel Rioli has been one of Richmond’s most consistent performers in recent weeks.
He had 23 disposals in last week’s loss to Melbourne, making it the fourth time he has hit the 20-touch mark from seven matches in 2024.
His record against Fremantle over the years isn’t flash (averaging 15.8 disposals), but much of that time was spent as a small forward.
If the Tigers are a chance of winning, Rioli must provide plenty of run and carry so we’re with him to pick up at least 20 touches at the MCG.
Serong to have 25+ disposals, 5+ clearances
Caleb Serong is one of the most prolific midfielders in the AFL in 2024.
He averages over 32 disposals and more than eight clearances, and against the Dogs last weekend he filled up with 37 touches and a remarkable 17 clearances.
He has loved playing against Richmond over the course of his career, averaging 25 touches and over five clearances across four games.
Given the Tigers remain thin in the midfield, Serong could feast at the ‘G on Sunday and we’re with him to get a fair bit of the ball.
The 23-year-old should have at the very least 25 disposals and five clearances, and could quit easily tip over the 30-disposal mark.
https://www.sen.com.au/news/2024/05/03/the-14-certainties-for-the-rest-of-round-8/
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Kmac is the sub. Fyfe is surprisingly Freo's sub (they have a 5-day break apparently).
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NO LATE CHANGES
SUBSTITUTES
Richmond: Kamdyn McIntosh
Fremantle: Nat Fyfe
https://www.afl.com.au/news/1119774/follow-it-live-richmond-tigers-v-fremantle-dockers-western-bulldogs-v-hawthorn-hawks-brisbane-lions-v-gold-coast-suns
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Both Riolis do well on the wing. Dusty nice pass to Lefau. Goal! :gotigers
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Basic errors just kill us :banghead. Cost us goals at one end and gift the opposition soft ones at the other.
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Baker clearly taken high and the fluro muppett pays HTB ::).
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Terrible defending. No one in the space in front of Amiss. Schoolboy stuff.
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Dusty with 3 possies in that coast to coast run. Lefau misses from the pocket.
8 - 15
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Nank misses a gettable one. Got to kick those. No momentum in the kicking action.
9 - 15
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Question- is Fremantle’s tactic to bore opposition teams to death ??
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Terrible miss by Nank, for it to be the Captain makes it a helluva lot worse
Dusty sensational that qtr. Reminded me of 2017
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We are absolutely rubbish. :help
We would be a pretty good VFL team though if the players could learn how to kick and handball correctly, ya know, the fundamentals of the game. :rollin
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Question- is Fremantle’s tactic to bore opposition teams to death ??
Bore opposition supporters to death as well
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Question- is Fremantle’s tactic to bore opposition teams to death ??
Would appear so
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Terrible miss by Nank, for it to be the Captain makes it a helluva lot worse
Dusty sensational that qtr. Reminded me of 2017
Which he has done for a few first quarters this year but fades out badly, hopefully not today.
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Quarter time
Richmond 1.3-9
Fremantle 3.4-22
Goal: Lefau
Same story. Basic skill errors and no decent talls forward hurting us. Samson should be playing ahead of Naismith (who is just a tap ruckman).
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1.6 :facepalm
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And they wonder why we bag the fluro muppets.
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Our team is as soft as that free kick that was given. :help
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Pathetic Tiges. We are the worst team in defending a ball on the goalline. Have been for 3-4 years.
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We are a really s hit team
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Went into this game with high hopes.
Our skills are the worst in the comp, by far.
It's embarrassing how easily the Dockers players are running the ball through the middle.
Wake me up when it's time for the draft.
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Went into this game with high hopes.
Our skills are the worst in the comp, by far.
It's embarrassing how easily the Dockers players are running the ball through the middle.
Wake me up when it's time for the draft.
You had high hopes?
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Went into this game with high hopes.
Our skills are the worst in the comp, by far.
It's embarrassing how easily the Dockers players are running the ball through the middle.
Wake me up when it's time for the draft.
You had high hopes?
Thought we would be competitive
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stuff me we are horrible
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Rabble so far :help.
All 5 Freo goals off our horrid turnovers.
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Our team hasn't a defensive mindset whatsoever. No defensive system and many soft types that don't like the hard stuff at all but offer nothing else to the team in any way shape of form. :help
........but let's complain about Mansell being in the team :rollin
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Another sitter missed ::).
1.7 ::)
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No positives at all. We are poor in every single aspect of the game… big work to do this off season
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Zero intent to attack or take them on. Just chip chip chip…. And turnover!
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Not sure what happened but that last play sums up our relationship with the umpires
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Get ready for Kelli Underwood to be calling more Richmond games . We are going to be off Broadway for a while.
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It's plain obvious results mean nothing for YZE.. The players happiness is what's important. Rock up to training, smiles, poos and giggles. Pure enjoyment. Get paid very well just to rock up and smile. Participation ribbons are what's important, as long as you're happy.
FFS BRING TOM HAFEY BACK!!! Any witches or wizards here ?!?! This is so much worse than when dimma started, he has nothing to work with .
Apparently they practise how to be happy at training but skills never get any practise.. north Melbourne have better skills than us . It's embarrassing
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Grimes must never play again, same as Pickett and Short. Short 17 useless possessions.
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Not sure what happened but that last play sums up our relationship with the umpires
No idea what the free was for ::) but the 50 was for Dow dropping the ball to the ground after he heard the siren rather than giving the ball back.
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Get ready for Kelli Underwood to be calling more Richmond games . We are going to be off Broadway for a while.
They'll use our games for work experience umpires
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Half time
Richmond 1.3 1.7-13
Fremantle 3.4 6.8-44
Goal: Lefau
Rabble! Don't do the basics right you get what you deserve. Starts with missing open targets by hand and foot under no pressure and our pathetic goalkicking. Most of our shots have been directly in front. Schoolboy stuff :banghead.
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Get ready for Kelli Underwood to be calling more Richmond games . We are going to be off Broadway for a while.
They'll use our games for work experience umpires
I thought they already do.
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Naismith
Mansell
3 possessions.
Well done boys. Naismith using us to top his super because my word he is bloody useless
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Gee the umpires has been sensational
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Even dusty, as soon as he looks like he is back, he kicks the ball like a bucket of poo
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Naismith
Mansell
3 possessions.
Well done boys. Naismith using us to top his super because my word he is bloody useless
Blame the match committee. Nank and Naismith are too alike and neither can play as a forward. They shouldn't be in the same side. Should be getting games into Samson who is in decent form in the VFL and at least has some forward craft.
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Wooden spoon is on the cards
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Hooray! We finally kicked one straight (Hugo).
Rich 2.7-19
Freo 7.8-50
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OMG! Two in a row :o. Goal to Sonsie.
Rich 3.8-26
Freo 7.8-50
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Why Tylar kick it to a 1-v-3 where the one is a small in Seth Campbell? :huh3
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Geez Pickett is atrocious
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Been impressed with lefaus growth. One positive from a shocking season. Looks like a footballer !
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Baker stepping up. Nice run and pass by Dan.
Lefau goal :gotigers
Rich 4.8-32
Freo 7.9-51
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Short falls over the proceeds to jog along side frei player with the ball. No pressure at all. He can stuff off
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Kmac subbed on for Naismith.
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We make the easy look so difficult :P.
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Been impressed with lefaus growth. One positive from a shocking season. Looks like a footballer !
:clapping
Short falls over the proceeds to jog along side frei player with the ball. No pressure at all. He can stuff off
:clapping
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3/4 time
Richmond 1.3 1.7 4.11-35
Fremantle 3.4 6.8 8.11-59
Goal: Lefau 2, Ralphsmith, Sonsie.
At least showed some urgency and fight that quarter.
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Short falls over the proceeds to jog along side frei player with the ball. No pressure at all. He can stuff off
He's been pathetic today
And I'm a Short fan generally
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Yeah let's punish the ballwinner you clueless fluro muppet ::).
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No numbers forward, then no numbers in the middle or in defense and cough up an easy goal.
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We are just so bad to watch. Can’t execute BASIC skills. No pressure. Senior players looking like vfl players. Just hard to watch
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Our tall defenders are such pussies and even with a purely defensive mindset, still can’t impact a simple 1-1 spoil.
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Grimes :help :banghead
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Goal Mansell.
Rich 5.11-41
Freo 10.12-72
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Our tackling is below standard and probably half are over classified as legitimate tackles when I wouldn't have labelled them as such.
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Can anyone explain to me why our players can't even just simply stick a tackle..
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Midfield smashed again.
Naismith, mansell, Campbell can all have a rest in the 2’s
Ryan, Cumberland, coulthard deserve a chance and we clearly need to mix it up a bit.
Look slow and stale
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All you sonsie lovers, forget him . He's just a VFL player. Trade him
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These umps are a joke. HTB every day of the week.
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Geez Dusty has to be on his retirement tour.
Miller isn’t up to it.
Grimes is a liability
Macintosh as sub… sheesh!
Short is a liability
Pickett is a liability
Naismith is stealing a paycheck
Baker goes hard but… he has limited talent
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Geez Dusty has to be on his retirement tour.
Miller isn’t up to it.
Grimes is a liability
Macintosh as sub… sheesh!
Short is a liability
Pickett is a liability
Naismith is stealing a paycheck
Baker goes hard but… he has limited talent
Agree with everyone except Miller and Baker.
Miller is a versatile tall and a handy player and has good skills for his size.
Baker is a workhorse and has proven beyond doubt his value despite his unfortunate height.
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Juke time.
Kmac goal.
Rich 6.13-49
Freo 12.12-84
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Would like to see a bit more of a defensive style game plan from yze since we are so bad with skills etc
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The umps absolutely lost the plot towards the end of the game not paying obvious free kicks.
No wonder the players got frustrated
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Sorry but this is blatant by the umps >:(.
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Miller got whacked over the shoulder and then dragged to the ground. Then somehow with 2 Freo guys wrestling him, Freo gets the free…
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Don't blame the umpires.. Richmond Became their bitch over a decade ago, and the club gracefully allowed it to carry on
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Final Score
Richmond 1.3 1.7 4.11 6.13-49
Fremantle 3.4 6.8 8.11 15.13-103
Goal: Lefau 2, Ralphsmith, Sonsie, McIntosh, Mansell.
Aside from a patch during the 3rd qtr, we were as woeful as the pathetic umps. Hard to find a positive from today. We got smashed pretty much all over the park.
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Final Score
Richmond 1.3 1.7 4.11 6.13-49
Fremantle 3.4 6.8 8.11 15.13-103
Goal: Lefau 2, Ralphsmith, Sonsie, McIntosh, Mansell.
Aside from a patch during the 3rd qtr, we were as woeful as the pathetic umps. Hard to find a positive from today. We got smashed pretty much all over the park.
That's patch we had was thanks to Freo for taking a breather. Nothing to do with us
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Team selections guaranteed freo a win.
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Lefau is the only reason I look forward the the footy at the moment.
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The Dockers midfielders lead the charge. In the contest, the Dockers won clearances 36-16, contested possessions 112-97 and scored 34 points to 11 from clearance chains.
Team stats:
Disposals 322 - 403 ..... ( contested: 97 - 112 ; uncontested: 220 - 280 ) :help
Efficiency% 76 - 77
Kicks 191 - 237
Handballs 131 - 166
Turnovers 58 - 65
Marks 97 - 130 :help .... ( contested mark: 5 - 6 )
Tackles 40 - 60 :P
Clearances 16 - 36 ..... ( centre: 5 - 14 ; stoppages: 11 - 22 ) :help :help :help
Inside 50s 38 - 59 :help
In50 eff.% 45 - 51
In50 marks 9 - 18 :help
In50 tackles 8 - 14
Hitouts 35 - 24
Bounces 13 - 10
One %ers 41 - 28
Frees 11 - 20 :thumbsdown
Individual possies:
Short 28
Dusty 23
D.Rioli 22
Floss 22
Baker 18
Sonsie 18
Broad 17
Brown 17
Dow 15
Pickett 15
Hugo 14
Young 14
Banks 13
Bolton 13
Miller 11
Nank 11
Grimes 10
Campbell 9
Lefau 8
Mansell 8
M.Rioli 8
Naismith 6 .... subbed off 3rd qtr.
Kmac 2 .... subbed on 3rd qtr.
https://www.afl.com.au/afl/matches/5964#player-stats
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Dirty match for us …
burn this …
Yze needs to spray them for their poor pressure in 2nd and 4th …
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Agree but he needs to take some of the responsibility for his questionable selections & poor tactics....even a bush coach knows when your 4-5 down with a depleted side and only quarter to play you man up....though most coaches would work out far earlier than that you need to at least tighten things up when your oppos taking uncontested marks just for fun... allowing 124 uncontested marks for the match is inexcusable.... :banghead
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Couldn't see many positives other than getting games into the kids. The wing kick to fwd 50 is our Achilles heel. Alot is due to having eff all tall fwds to kick it to. You can't expect us to be winning games when our goals are generated from small fwds and/or first year players. Lefau has a real crack but there's nothing else for the opposition to.worry about other than dusty. Ryan/Pearce looked like Rance/grimes of 2017.
We really need to nail these next 2 drafts with some quality and/or recruit some bigger bodies because the current crop get pushed around and bullied way too easily.
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Worst place to be in the current game is a forward for the Tigers. The delivery is atrocious :thumbsdown
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Gez our skills and kicking is pathetic and I'm talking this coming from premiership players to.
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:banghead
SNIP
I'm in a foul mood so any baiting and trolling will be removed
And keep it up and I'll be handing out stirkes
Yes I am that peeved
Report posts and then abuse mods for not removing stuff, then this what you get
As I said the other day be careful what you wish for you may not like the final result
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:banghead
SNIP
I'm in a foul mood so any baiting and trolling will be removed
And keep it up and I'll be handing out stirkes
Yes I am that peeved
Report posts and then abuse mods for not removing stuff, then this what you get
As I said the other day be careful what you wish for you may not like the final result
I’ll start by saying , I have NEVER reported a post in all my years on the forum .. typical woke sooking 2024 Aussie behaviour .. the country is fried and to say it’s gone soft is an understatement
The posts of mine that were reported obviously and therefore removed , I stand by every single word . It wasn’t trolling or baiting , I meant them and wish I could repost
Maybe it’s time to walk away for a bit , because for me , if someone is willing to give it, but can’t cop it back and sooks it up and acts like an 8yo dibber dobber , then stuff that .. and I know which sook continuously reports my posts like a slow witted infant
So I’ll save you the hassle WP
And for those abusing the mods , weak stuffing dogs
If you don’t appreciate the efforts then stuff off
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Worst place to be in the current game is a forward for the Tigers. The delivery is atrocious :thumbsdown
The only question i have here is what forwards.
Poor entry or not if we just had some goal kicking natural forwards actually playing we would be much better.
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With no tall fwds for the moment we need more speed to burst into the 50arc and stop kicking long to no one. We will probably have more of a chance kicking a goal from 40 - 50 out than actually getting a deep mark.
Maybe move short fwd stuff to actually use that long leg he has??
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Maybe move short to the VFL for good
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Will be a long kick if he is kicking from the VFL....just hope he is accurate :banghead
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Effort is what counts
I think what disappointed me most about Richmond this game was simply their lack of pressure. They were a team very happy to run hard when they had momentum, but they largely allowed the Dockers to do what they wanted with the ball. They tried to match the style of controlling possession, but when you’re not winning the ball in the middle or not putting pressure on the kicker – you’re not going to generate enough possession for this style to work.
At the end of the game, Fremantle finished with 60 tackles to go with their 112 contested possessions and 36 clearances. When you compare that to Richmond’s 40 tackles, 16 clearances and 98 contested possessions, their lack of effort is exposed more than anything.
With where the club is at, I think coach Yze could excuse any number of mistakes, but even if everything else goes wrong, you can still control the effort you put in to get your hands on the ball first or, if you can’t, make life as difficult as possible for the opposition.
Full article and match review here: https://themongrelpunt.com/afl-season-2024/2024/05/05/r8-fremantle-v-richmond-the-mongrel-review/
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Richmond great Matthew Richardson has given his quick thoughts on the Tigers’ heavy defeat at the hands of Fremantle at the MCG.
Richo addressed the “big personnel issues” for the Tigers, saying they got “smashed in the midfield”.
AUDIO: https://www.3aw.com.au/matthew-richardson-sums-up-richmonds-heavy-defeat-to-fremantle/
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No reason for lack of effort, pressure and tackling added to that poor skills and not hitting targets basic fundamentals of footy anyone not capable of that shouldn't be in the side.
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Richo is on the money - we have Dow and Sonsie currently in our starting midfield up against an established outfit in Fremantle. It’s going to end up a horror show .
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Did sonsie even playing that much midfield though? Seems like he didn’t but I could be wrong
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Noticed the overall size difference between the teams yesterday. Not talking height, talking weight/bulk. Freo across the lines are so much stronger which was evident to the eye. The coaching group need to ensure we get size on the list either with existing players or new players to the club.
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Noticed the overall size difference between the teams yesterday. Not talking height, talking weight/bulk. Freo across the lines are so much stronger which was evident to the eye. The coaching group need to ensure we get size on the list either with existing players or new players to the club.
Dow is like a stick man.
We just keep drafting skinny kids, pitiful
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Despite knowing the strength of the freo midfield and despite knowing we would not have Hopper and Graham they refused to bring in McAuliffe.
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I agree we were smashed but our contested ball numbers were quite good before we lost Hopper, Taranto and Prestia.
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Noticed the overall size difference between the teams yesterday. Not talking height, talking weight/bulk. Freo across the lines are so much stronger which was evident to the eye. The coaching group need to ensure we get size on the list either with existing players or new players to the club.
Dow is like a stick man.
We just keep drafting skinny kids, pitiful
he looks like an alter boy/girl
absolute shambles this drafting has been.