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AFL Round 17
Fremantle vs Richmond
Saturday, 6th July @ Optus Stadium
Start time: 6:10 PM WST (8:10 PM EST)
Odds: (Sportsbet)
Richmond $8.50
Fremantle $1.07
https://www.afl.com.au/afl/matches/6032
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Fremantle v Richmond Preview
Andrew Slevison
SEN
4 July 2024
Fresh off a one-point giant-killing win over pace setters Sydney, Fremantle hosts lowly Richmond at Optus Stadium on Saturday night.
The Dockers are in fairly good nick right now having won three of their last four ahead of their clash with a side they saw off by 54 points in Melbourne in Round 8.
Justin Longmuir’s side is 4-2-1 at Optus this season while the Tigers lost to the Eagles by 39 points the last time they were in Perth in Round 5, so the home comforts should suit Freo again.
But don’t expect a shoot-out as Freo v Tigers games in recent times have generally been low-scoring. The last five meetings have averaged a total match points of 120.
The Tigers are battling to find any consistency up forward and are yet to score above 100 this season. You’d think they would need to score at least 85 to put any scoreboard pressure on the Dockers and that is a threshold they’ve passed just once this year.
Freo currently sit third on the ladder and this is a great chance for them to establish themselves in the top four.
They’ve been criticised in the past for letting such opportunities slip but they should pass this test with flying colours.
Tip: Fremantle by 32 points.
https://www.sen.com.au/news/2024/07/04/who-will-win-and-why-the-tips-and-predictions-for-afl-round-17/
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Ah the only saving grace atm where we all get the chance to pick who should play.
This week out with all the underperformers yay. Whats that i here we won't have the numbers to pick a team Bugger!!!
How about this then.
Vlastuin - Miller - Bauer
Brown - Blight - Smith
Rioli - McAuliffe - Trezise
Nankervis - Taranto - Baker.
Campbell - Balta - Mansell
Bolton - Kossie - Gray
Hopper - Broad - Ralphsmith - Prestia
Im open to suggestions. Just no more Short Graham Dow and co enough is enough.
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Richmond Tigers flag physical approach to handle Jye Amiss as possible WA match-up looms
Jackson Barrett
The West Australian
6 July 2024
Fremantle forward Jye Amiss can expect the same rough approach Richmond took against him earlier this season when they meet at Optus Stadium on Saturday night.
The Dockers’ win over the Tigers at the MCG in round eight triggered calls from coach Justin Longmuir for umpires to keep a closer eye on off-the-ball treatment of his young forward.
Paywall: https://thewest.com.au/sport/fremantle-dockers/richmond-tigers-flag-physical-approach-to-handle-jye-amiss-as-possible-wa-match-up-looms-c-15255571
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Apparently a bit wet
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Apparently a bit wet
Perth forecast
Forecast for the rest of Saturday
Summary
Max 18
Showers developing.
Possible rainfall: 1 to 7 mm
Chance of any rain: 90%
Perth area:
Partly cloudy. Very high chance of showers, most likely in the late afternoon and evening. Winds northeasterly 25 to 40 km/h turning northerly 25 to 35 km/h during the afternoon and evening.
http://www.bom.gov.au/wa/forecasts/perth.shtml
Radar loop (Perth): http://www.bom.gov.au/products/IDR702.loop.shtml#skip
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Good spoil by Kosi in the middle causes the turnover. Bolton on the end gets the goal :gotigers
6 - 0
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Hugo at HB to Balta at HF (free) to Nank 40 out. Goal! :gotigers
Rich 2.0-12
Freo 0.0-0
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Funny tonight, pick 1 is important but gee I'd like a win
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Don't know what Kmac was thinking then. Just give it to your free teammate all by himself. The turnover costs us a goal.
12 - 6
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Terrible by Kmac no excuse not taking thwt mark, and after dropping it the HB to a team-mate was on and he just bombs a kick instead
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How is that not HTB? ::)
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We are now the experts at gifting the opposition goals from our terrible turnovers :facepalm.
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I know it's wet but again the fumble at the crucial moment in the middle gifts lets the opposition in and they get another goal.
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Terrible by Kmac no excuse not taking thwt mark, and after dropping it the HB to a team-mate was on and he just bombs a kick instead
You get the feeling every time he goes near it he's going to stuff up
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Probably nice guys but Treacy & Amiss look like wankers
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Of course we get pinged for HTB with barely prior opportunity ::).
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Kosi OOTF from 25 out :P.
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Umps sure are wearing purple tonight ::).
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Can someone remind me how Mansell gets a game. He offers very little.
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Umps sure are wearing purple tonight ::).
All their complaining this week is paying dividends
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Umps sure are wearing purple tonight ::).
All their complaining this week is paying dividends
Yep. Frees: 6 - 1 ::)
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Broady, why run back towards the side where the traffic is? The obvious was to come out of the defence on the fat side.
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Geez we are being so easily pushed aside in the 1-on-1 contest tonight.
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Campbell you're a small forward. You don't leap into the contest and spoil your teammate leaving us with no one at ground level :facepalm.
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First 15 minutes very good
Next 15 crap
Sums up our season and yet again it's the senior blokes stuffing up with poor skills and stupid decisions
And talk about painful watching and putting up with incredibly biased commentary
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Quarter time
Richmond 2.0-12
Fremantle 4.3-27
Goals: Bolton, Nankervis.
We are our own worst enemy. Once again the failure to do the simple footy basics is so frustrating to watch :facepalm :scream :banghead.
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Our midfield is playing like an Auskick game. All running into the honeypot leaving Freo players free on the outside of the contest to waltz out of the centre :facepalm.
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Great tackle by Nank.
Doesn't make Freo pay though with a very gettable shot.
27 - 14
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What was thwt not a free ot McAuliffe?
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Another crap kick by KMac :banghead
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Stupid by Sonsie
We get the free and he takes advantage :banghead
Bloody stupid
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Were just crap. Ball use and decision making are so poor. Dominate possession for half the quarter, they goal.
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Sonsie two brainfades. First the 50 and then playing on when it was our free and turning it over.
JUST DO THE BASICS TIGERS!!! :banghead
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All the play and a pathetic decision and kick by Sonsie costs us a goal
:banghead :banghead
And just an aside Mansell better make sure Aish doesn't lose his headband we know what happened last time :whistle
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Selfish by Hugo
Lower the eyes son :banghead
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Were just crap. Ball use and decision making are so poor. Dominate possession for half the quarter, they goal.
We are definitely crap but it is the brainless stupidity not doing the basics that does my head in.
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As per usual our goalkicking is amateurish ::).
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Seth Campbell just does not get enough of the footy. Nowhere near it.
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Brown's disposal has been woeful so far
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Seth Campbell just does not get enough of the footy. Nowhere near it.
Could say the same about Bolton tonight
Very harsh
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As per usual our goalkicking is amateurish ::).
Yep they go down and just slot 'em with ease
We are beating ourselves tonight
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Exit out of D50 = long bomb = turnover.
Entry into F50 = long bomb = turnover.
We are so clueless as a side. We definitely aren't a connected "team".
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Seth Campbell just does not get enough of the footy. Nowhere near it.
Could say the same about Bolton tonight
Very harsh
He's had one disposable but runs around a lot is all I meant.
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The only way we look like scoring. Getting out the back on transition. Bolton goal.
Rich 3.5-23
Freo 6.5-41
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Another basic skill error turnover gifts them another goal :banghead.
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Nice one captain :banghead
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Only we could win a free kick with 30 secs left turn it over in the same spot and give up a goal.
Absolutely pathetic.
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You're the captain Nank and your a senior player, leader Dan Rioli and dish up that pathetic play
Hang your heads in shame
We battle to get back in the game and you do that :banghead
Any chance we had however small is gone after that
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Nank :banghead
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Can anyone explain what purpose Jayden Short has in the team. Zero run, zero defensive presence or pressure, cannot be the designated kicker / quarterback. May as well play 1 short every week!
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Can anyone explain what purpose Jayden Short has in the team. Zero run, zero defensive presence or pressure, cannot be the designated kicker / quarterback. May as well play 1 short every week!
One Short is the problem we need to play zero Shorts... :banghead
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Half-time
Richmond 2.0 3.5-23
Fremantle 4.3 7.5-47
Goals: Bolton 2, Nankervis.
Just 3 goals in a half of footy from 25 inside 50s. Then add pretty much every Freo goal has come off our dumb basic skill turnovers. Totally clueless and embarrassing :facepalm.
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If Hackintosh gets another year.... :banghead
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Seth Campbell just does not get enough of the footy. Nowhere near it.
Could say the same about Bolton tonight
Very harsh
He's had one disposable but runs around a lot is all I meant.
Campbell is continually out of position running to the wrong places on the ground. If he just stuck to being front and square at the contest like a good small forward should, he would be in and influence the play more and get his hands on the pill in dangerous positions. Just another example of a Tigers player not doing the simple U12s stuff. Is it Campbell or the coaching staff telling him to run around like a lost dog?
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Fremantle scored from 33% of 33 inside 50s, to Richmond's 20% from 25. The Dockers have scored 5.3 to 3.3 from intercepts, and 5.3 to 1.1 from set shots.
The Tigers have conceded six unanswered goals eight times this season - ranked 17th in the competition defensively - and they did so once more in that first half after scoring the first two goals of the match.
Stats to HT:
D.Rioli 16 disposals
Hopper 14
Floss 14
Miller 13
Short 13
Brown 11
Nank 11
Taranto 11
Blight 9
Baker 7
Kosi 7
Hugo 7
Bolton 6
Broad 6
Graham 6
Kmac 6
Sonsie 6
McAuliffe 5
Balta 4
Cumberland 3
Mansell 3
Campbell 1
Banks 0 .... sub not used yet.
Disposals: 179 - 193 .... ( contested: 65 - 75 )
Efficiency%: 71 - 67
Turnovers: 40 - 38
Marks: 43 - 40
Tackles: 30 - 26
Clearances: 20 - 20 .... ( centre: 4 - 6 )
Inside 50s: 25 - 33
In50 eff.% 40 - 39
In50 marks: 5 - 3
Hitouts: 25 - 16
Frees: 10 - 10
https://www.afl.com.au/afl/matches/6032#team-stats
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Longmuir just said the 2nd qtr was Freo's worst for the year. And we scored just 1 goal from it. Sums us up at how useless we have been :P.
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Darcy subbed out with concussion.
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2 more years of Dudsell...... :joker :propeller :facepalm
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So you can tackle Rioli without the ball hey ump? ::)
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The goals are between the two big stick Tiges.
Hugo sends a nothing chip OOTF.
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OMG we actually found and hit a target inside F50.
Balta off to Bolton for his 3rd :gotigers
Rich 4.5-29
Freo 7.5-47
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Where's the sweeper holding his defensive position at the centrebounce so the opposition ruckman doesn't just run it out so easily and set up an easy goal?
This is basic stuff! :banghead
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Longmuir just said the 2nd qtr was Freo's worst for the year. And we scored just 1 goal from it. Sums us up at how useless we have been :P.
I actually thought it showed a total disrespect to the opposition. One of the reason they were so bad was because for 3/4 of the 2nd qtr they didn't cope with the pressure.
Yes we are a very average side but for periods we were good. So by extension we dragged Freo down to our level.
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Bolton is on tonight. Leaps to mark over two Dockers and kicks his 4th :gotigers.
Another assist from Balta.
Rich 5.5-35
Freo 8.5-53
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Another Freo goal rebounding out of our F50 because we not building a wall and protecting the defensive side across HF :banghead.
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Sonsie gets his head knocked off, no free kick.
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Blatant forearm to the head, nothing to see here…..
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Great by Sonsie
But why wasn't it a free., head high contact
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Hopefully those on here saying Sonsie is soft will acknowledge that effort
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Ball punched out of hands after mark has been paid, nothing to see here…..
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Time to sub Kmac out and bring in Banks
Huge liability tonight (more than normal)
Game done now
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Time to sub Kmac out and bring in Banks
Huge liability tonight (more than normal)
Game done now
Time to drop kmac.
There fixed it for you
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Let's not protect the defensive side again Tiges ::).
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Very poor by Brown
Dare I say it ?.
Soft, had to attack the constant and stood back, unacceptable
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Always interesting to see the difference in a player's game when they are played in their right position or a position they are best suited to
:shh
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Here we go again
Same old, same old
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Another Freo goal was always going to happen when we repeatedly allow the ball over the back of the pack :facepalm.
More schoolboy errors :banghead.
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Bolton sprays the shot.
37 - 72.
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SHocking's stupid rules on display once again. That first 50 wasn't there ::).
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If a Freo player was in the protected area ump then why wasn't it 50?
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3/4 time
Richmond 2.0 3.5 5.8-38
Fremantle 4.3 7.5 13.6-84
Goals: Bolton 4, Nankervis.
This is painful to watch :help.
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Banks in
Blight subbed out :banghead
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If a Freo player was in the protected area ump then why wasn't it 50?
Exactly, a 50m penalty I thought is awarded if a player enters the protected area, only when you wear a yellow and black jumper apparently.
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If a Freo player was in the protected area ump then why wasn't it 50?
It’s ridiculous. Should have been a 50.
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I was pretty proud of the effort until the last 10 minutes
But yet again a lack of discipline coupled with dumb footy and I'm gutted again
I get we are an average side but I hate sitting watching whether it be live or the TV and questioning effort. Yet again I'm questioning the effort
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Our forward entries are the worst in the comp.
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If a Freo player was in the protected area ump then why wasn't it 50?
It’s ridiculous. Should have been a 50.
Nothing to see here
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Barely a player who has done well tonight. Brown has looked really bad tonight imo. He has been trending this way for a while.. has had a lot of praise for his kicking be he needs to work on everything else.. Ben Lennon II
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If a Freo player was in the protected area ump then why wasn't it 50?
It’s ridiculous. Should have been a 50.
Nothing to see here
The game has never been umpired better
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Our forward entries are the worst in the comp.
Plan A: Long aimless bomb
Plan B: Long aimless bomb
Plan C: Long aimless bomb
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Plan Z: Hope the opposition makes a bad turnover while attacking and we can get out the back.
:help
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Blight subbed is an awful decision.
We are getting killed by Treacy.
Our small fwds have 5 touches between them. Cum 3 and Campbell 2.
Why are we taking a key back off lol
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Surprise surprise another easy miss (Mansell).
Amateur hour.
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Short 🤯🤯🤯
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Dan Rioli you've been pathetic
You shouldn't be seen laughing with your opponent especially after he's just kicked a goal
Disgusting..embarrassing
Hang you head
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We have had some bad losses this year, but tonight I can’t find a single positive. All the young guys were shocking. McAuliffe out of his depth unfortunately. Older guys were bad too… can we end the season now ?
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Mansell goal.
46 - 92
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We have had some bad losses this year, but tonight I can’t find a single positive. All the young guys were shocking. McAuliffe out of his depth unfortunately. Older guys were bad too… can we end the season now ?
We're playing like a side that just wants the season to end. Amateur standard and just going through the motions.
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Since Round 13, the Tigers have scored from 11.8% of its centre bounce clearances, ranked 18th in the competition. They have scored from 30% of centre bounce clearances tonight, but only for a scoreline of 0.3 (3).
https://www.afl.com.au/afl/matches/6032#timeline
Yes we are crap.
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Can hardly wait to hear the presser tonight
The last 10 minutes of the 3rd and this last qtr has been insipid...AGAIN :banghead
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We have had some bad losses this year, but tonight I can’t find a single positive. All the young guys were shocking. McAuliffe out of his depth unfortunately. Older guys were bad too… can we end the season now ?
I would argue Kosi has been a positive
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What’s the least amount of wins by a team in the AFL era? Surely we’re at risk of it at this point.
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Another goal assist to Nank
That's what? 3 for Freo tonight
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If it was the other way around and we did that it would be paid deliberate rushed behind.
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Thank God that's over
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If it was the other way around and we did that it would be paid deliberate rushed behind.
Nothing to see here
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:lol Cumberland, must be the worst player in recent years to pull on our jumper. :shh
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17 players on the injured list so there is a high number of guys getting an extended look at the big time. Unfortunately, we lack talent, smarts and ticker up and down the list.
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Since the win over the Swans, we've only passed 10 goals once (12 vs Adelaide which we won). Tonight's our fifth game where we've kicked just 6 goals. We also scored just 5 vs Dees. Hardly exciting stuff :sleep.
Edit: We reached 7 with Taranto's goal just before the siren.
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The only positive is we won clearances and contested possessions but our forward entries are so diabolical we have no chance.
We get scored against far too easily when the oppo Coast to coast
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Broad is falling of a cliff. Almost time for Trezise to replace him.
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We are either become seriously CRAP.. OR SERIOUSLY GOOD at tanking
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What’s the least amount of wins by a team in the AFL era? Surely we’re at risk of it at this point.
Never mind, few teams have gone a full season with only 1 win, Swans in 93, Fitzroy in 96, giants in 13.
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Unfortunately the list is in a complete shambles after our dynasty era.
Will be interested to see which way we go with list changes, retirements, delistings.
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What’s the least amount of wins by a team in the AFL era? Surely we’re at risk of it at this point.
GWS won just 1 game in 2013 (their 2nd year in the comp).
I think the last time we won just 2 games in a season was back in 1960 but there were only 18 rounds back then.
ps. Fox Footy just said this is the first time we've finished a round in 18th spot.
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Broad is falling of a cliff. Almost time for Trezise to replace him.
Broady really struggling not playing with super players and having that extra responsibility.
Decision making not his strong suit
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Final Score
Richmond 2.0 3.5 5.8 7.12-54
Fremantle 4.3 7.5 13.6 16.9-105
Goals: Bolton 4, Nankervis, Mansell, Taranto.
Bring on the draft!
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Broad is falling of a cliff. Almost time for Trezise to replace him.
Broad can stuff off to the GC with Dusty and Rioli. stuffen useless
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Broad is falling of a cliff. Almost time for Trezise to replace him.
Broad can stuff off to the GC with Dusty and Rioli. stuffen useless
Just leave him at the airport , he's got a house there.... :shh
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Dusty's 300th was our GF. And we somehow managed to play it the week before and not rock up.
Since then and I think for rest of year we will be awful. Almost similar feel to when Jade Rains was our captain and we were just counting down the wild till the end. I don't recall another season like that, except this one.
Directionless and lack of growth is hard to watch. It will come but allot of change is needed. Hard watch right now
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Dusty's 300th was our GF. And we somehow managed to play it the week before and not rock up.
Since then and I think for rest of year we will be awful. Almost similar feel to when Jade Rains was our captain and we were just counting down the wild till the end. I don't recall another season like that, except this one.
Directionless and lack of growth is hard to watch. It will come but allot of change is needed. Hard watch right now
Who? Jade Rains? Captain?
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Clearly auto correct WP
But it’s a good question
Kane Johnson?
Jeff Hogg?
Tony Free?
Mark Lee?
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I went to the game , it was not pretty and the weather was like Antartica .
We are clearly the worst team in the competition. Bolton will look good in purple.
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Clearly auto correct WP
But it’s a good question
Kane Johnson?
Jeff Hogg?
Tony Free?
Mark Lee?
Don't you remember when Geoff Raines' other son Jade was our captain? :shh
Unless he meant "Jade Rawlings" and "coach" not captain... :shh :shh
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The question for me what happens from here and end of year super important. Do we go back in the wilderness for another 37 years or we act like one of the big boys ?.
Our president needs to stand up basically not existent for me , while our CEO role is a super important. Not in favour of hiring within we made that mistake previously. The footy department needs to be held accountable to Livingstone and Blair lift their game to many poor decisions of late. Super important review for me.
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Coaches' votes (Yze & Longmuir)
Fremantle v Richmond
9 Andrew Brayshaw (FRE)
9 Toby Nankervis (RICH)
5 Josh Treacy (FRE)
5 Hayden Young (FRE)
2 Shai Bolton (RICH)
https://www.afl.com.au/news/1167915/coaches-votes-r17-contenders-make-a-move-eight-perfect-10s
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Tigers competitive between the arcs, bang average elsewhere
Andrew Slevison
SEN
8 July 2024
Richmond played well early and in patches throughout the game, but ultimately weren’t good enough as has been the case for much of the season.
The Tigers were very competitive between the arcs, beating Freo at clearance (43-37) and for contested possessions (135-133).
However, they struggled inside both attacking and defensive 50 which is essentially where the game was won and lost.
Adem Yze’s side ended up with just 7.12 from 47 inside 50s which just isn’t going to win you many games of footy. They had just as many inside 50 marks (12) as the Dockers but were unable to test the home side with scoreboard pressure.
Down the other end, the Tigers allowed the Dockers too much time and space around forward 50 which resulted in Josh Treacy booting five and the likes of Michael Walters, Michael Frederick and Hayden Young contributing two each.
It felt like the Tigers scrapped and fought in the clinches but were broken up on the outside, at times making life easy for their opponents.
They currently hold Pick 1 in the 2024 draft though…
https://www.sen.com.au/news/2024/07/08/what-they-got-right-and-wrong-the-wins-and-woes-from-round-17/