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Football => Richmond Rant => Topic started by: MintOnLamb on August 06, 2024, 09:18:08 PM
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If we made all 7 trades we would come in with a massive draft hand.
Dan Rioli at least 1st rounder and a second rounder
Bolton at least 1 first Rounder and a second rounder
Baker possible first rounder and at least a second rounder
Short second rounder
Graham, Broad, K Mac who knows.
Package that lot up hit the draft hard before expansion year??
Any other players we could trade?
Who knows….
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KMac, Graham are both unrestricted free agents so there is no trade
Just compo
Personally I just pdnt think we can get rid of all of them
I'd trade Short and Bolton in a heartbeat
Would not be trading Rioli or Broad
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Don’t see there being that many changes. Would ensure a north like stint at the bottom of the ladder
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If you could get anything for Broad you'd take it.
Graham, Kmac and Short I'm happy to see go regardless of the return.
Baker for the right price but would prefer to see Bolton stay.
Bring a few experienced blokes on board next year that still have legs left to help our kids so we're not getting reamed every single weekend.
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Every chance all of the following retire.
Pickett 33, McIntosh 31, Dusty 32, Grimes 33, Naismith 32.
Leaving 30 plus year olds, Broad 32, Lynch 32, Vlastuin 31, Prestia 32, Nankervis 30.The last 5 actually still have roles to play.
Likely delistings imo Cumberland, Colina, Dow well they may not but should.Coulthard,
We wont be trading all three of Bolton, Baker and Rioli.
Most likely it seems is Baker out of contract and Rioli, dimma sniffing.Both are replaceable with their roles.
Bolton is contracted until 2028. He is a quality small forward he is our only quality small fwd hence he is required.
Short contracted until 2027 and he won't be putting his hand up for trade.
Graham may want out and he may get us some compo depending on how silly clubs are and what they may pay him.
We are kidding ourselves if we think any club is going to trade for 31yo battler McIntosh.
That is nine retirements and delisting and three trades/compo,Graham Baker and Rioli turning over 11.
A possible outcome with a bundling of late picks for a first rounder could end up something like this.
1, 6, 12, 19,20,21,25, 40, 41 72.
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Only keepers for me are D Rioli, Baker and Broad. All for leadership and probably the small two for ability.
Yet if they wanna go we just have to get something back.
For the FA/UFA blokes I just ticked yes if I'm prepared not to matchbsknwe get compo.
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Baker is totally expendable - would be utter stupidity & shortsightedness not to trade him while he's at peak value....a mistake we've made far too often over the years (see Graham for the most recent example)....:shh
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Every chance all of the following retire.
Pickett 33, McIntosh 31, Dusty 32, Grimes 33, Naismith 32.
Leaving 30 plus year olds, Broad 32, Lynch 32, Vlastuin 31, Prestia 32, Nankervis 30.The last 5 actually still have roles to play.
Likely delistings imo Cumberland, Colina, Dow well they may not but should.Coulthard,
We wont be trading all three of Bolton, Baker and Rioli.
Most likely it seems is Baker out of contract and Rioli, dimma sniffing.Both are replaceable with their roles.
Bolton is contracted until 2028. He is a quality small forward he is our only quality small fwd hence he is required.
Short contracted until 2027 and he won't be putting his hand up for trade.
Graham may want out and he may get us some compo depending on how silly clubs are and what they may pay him.
We are kidding ourselves if we think any club is going to trade for 31yo battler McIntosh.
That is nine retirements and delisting and three trades/compo,Graham Baker and Rioli turning over 11.
A possible outcome with a bundling of late picks for a first rounder could end up something like this.
1, 6, 12, 19,20,21,25, 40, 41 72.
Claw that would be some trade hand, unsure about Coultard, I think he will go ok
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Should have added Lynch to the poll..... :shh
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Should have added Lynch to the poll..... :shh
Good idea, can’t see how to though
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Bolton only quality goalkicking small forward we have.
Lynch our only quality kpf and a player others can learn from. Imo is very much needed short term
Vlastuin is probably our best defender and only decent proven medium defender we have.
Broady similar to Vlastuin his experience is going to be needed.
Prestia well as far as mids go we have so few and he remains a needed commodity until we can either get a few kids up to speed or get a decent mature recruit in. As amature player i think he has plenty to give as a teacher.
Nankervis well at the very least any kids we play will stand taller with him in the team. He continues to be head and shoulders above any other ruckman we have. Still very much required.
All five are required over the short term or next few seasons.
The other 5 30 plus year olds are superfluous to needs imo.
Pickett and McIntosh no longer required given the options we have for running roles. Naismith sad story but he has to go. His role is covered we signed Ryan for three years well maybe its time for him to step up. Nank Ryan and OHB and we draft a young ruckman for development.
Grimes retired already along with Dusty.
Coulthard have not seen a lot of him he will be 23 and a small fwd and for me he just has not done enough to warrant a spot at his age and type.
If he survives i really hope he can take the step up.
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What happens to Maurice if Daniel is reunited with Dimma ??
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I'm happy with a big cleanout within reason - we need to get the next era up and moving
sad its over so goddamn happy it happened
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Prestia well as far as mids go we have so few and he remains a needed commodity until we can either get a few kids up to speed or get a decent mature recruit in. As amature player i think he has plenty to give as a teacher.
All five are required over the short term or next few seasons.
he will be lucky to play five games per year
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What happens to Maurice if Daniel is reunited with Dimma ??
He's had a contract extension I the table since before he got injured (media reports) and still hasn't signed
if Dan goes Uncle MRJ will probably want out too
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Its not as if MRJ has set the world on fire. If he wants to go as the steak knives for Daniels trade then let him go with something coming back our way.
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I can't believe everyone is just willing to let everyone go. Has anyone seen north's list and what happened when they let go of those senior players around 2016?
To let 2 riolis go would be absolutely crazy, despite MRJ not playing a constant brand of football yet.
There is culling and then there is being stupid.
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I can't believe everyone is just willing to let everyone go. Has anyone seen north's list and what happened when they let go of those senior players around 2016?
To let 2 riolis go would be absolutely crazy, despite MRJ not playing a constant brand of football yet.
There is culling and then there is being stupid.
I don't want to let them all go.
Tbh if we could keep them all I would only remove Bolton, Graham, Broad if he wants to go to North etc.
Bolton I think will get us 2 1st round picks. If we trade our other picks up I don't see why we can't end up with 4x 1st rounders.
Baker and D Rioli are proper leaders.
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Oh and Short.
I'd trade him too.
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Baker is uncontracted and appears gone, so that's a definite trade
I'd trade Bolton, agree you'd get 2 first rounders for him.
Graham is unrestricted FA so if he wants to go, then he's gone. Just a case of what the compo pick is
Ditto KMac
Broad wants to stay and we need his leadership so he stays
Dan Rioli is the one I'd dig my heals in over. He's contracted end of story for me
What peeves me with these blokes supposedly wanting out is they had no issues in signing long term deals whe things were great, no we've hit the down patch they want out. I know it is simplistic for fans but to me it's poor form
Look at Baker as an an example, he was a rookie pick. No other Club wanted him but we took a Punt on him and he's a premiership player. Now he wants out.
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I can't believe everyone is just willing to let everyone go. Has anyone seen north's list and what happened when they let go of those senior players around 2016?
To let 2 riolis go would be absolutely crazy, despite MRJ not playing a constant brand of football yet.
There is culling and then there is being stupid.
Brilliant post Frankie :clapping
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I don't see any trade value in KMac (or Graham for that matter) hence I'm not including KMac since there's no whispers, unlike Graham.
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I agree and have said so many times, history shows if you let all your experience and older players go / leave together , you end up down the bottom just rotating kids in and out the door , why do you think it took 37 years to win a premiership at our club
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I agree and have said so many times, history shows if you let all your experience and older players go / leave together , you end up down the bottom just rotating kids in and out the door , why do you think it took 37 years to win a premiership at our club
Not for that reason
North cut a bunch of blokes who were all still best 22 in a finals outfit
We are talking about a lot of older blokes struggling in a team that's won 2 stuffing games.
Ok, so who are we keeping? It seems like the only ones we have a choice on are the contracted blokes which would be Rioli, Bolton and...Broad? I think I'm the only bloke on this board who wants to keep Shai. Broady is 30 odd and with the exception of the last 2 weeks has battled majorly the last 2 years. We also get Gibcus back next season. Dan Rioli I'd want to keep.
The rest? Thanks for your service
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Broad was contracted for 2025 but has just re-signed until the end of 2026 :clapping
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Amateur hour
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2025
Vlastuin - Balta - Miller
D.Rioli - Gibcus - Brown
Gray, Blight, Young as tall depth. Yep, better sign Nathan Broad until he's 33 asap
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2025
Vlastuin - Balta - Miller
D.Rioli - Gibcus - Brown
Gray, Blight, Young as tall depth. Yep, better sign Nathan Broad until he's 33 asap
Your assumption is Dan Rioli is staying
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2025
Vlastuin - Balta - Miller
D.Rioli - Gibcus - Brown
Gray, Blight, Young as tall depth. Yep, better sign Nathan Broad until he's 33 asap
Your assumption is Dan Rioli is staying
No, it's a rough draft of a potential backline for 2025. You yourself have said it's up to the club whether or not they let Rioli go. I've said I'd keep him
Not sure what the stuff he has to do with Nathan Broad who doesn't play as a running half back flanker
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2025
Vlastuin - Balta - Miller
D.Rioli - Gibcus - Brown
Gray, Blight, Young as tall depth. Yep, better sign Nathan Broad until he's 33 asap
Brown forward for me. Gray too.
Not sure to do with Gibcus or if he'll ever be fit and healthy again.
It's good to have Blight and Young. I reckon Blight should be pushing for a starting defender role.
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Would keep Rioli and Bolton. Both contracted. Would love Baker to stay but believe he wants to go. KMAC should retire. I maybe wrong but think Graham wants to leave the club and will go.
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Love Dan Rioli, he probably has 2 more years in him, trade him now, he may get another flag somewhere and we get 2 picks somewhere in first 25. Win win
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We need to hit the next 2-3 drafts as hard as possible due to Tassie coming in ...slow & steady's not going win the race....rather be doing it now and be shyte for the next three years than be at rock bottom & trying to play catch up during the expansion...been there, done that got the smashed tv......and at least Yze might play the kids if that's all we have.... :shh.
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I don’t know how anyone watching the first quarter against the Hawks could not want to burn the joint down and start from scratch.
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I don’t know how anyone watching the first quarter against the Hawks could not want to burn the joint down and start from scratch.
I empathise with you, but take the 3 flags (and it should have been 4, ty Mason Cox) and we are where we are, let’s burn the lot and move on with a large brigade of talent
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Would keep Rioli and Bolton. Both contracted. Would love Baker to stay but believe he wants to go. KMAC should retire. I maybe wrong but think Graham wants to leave the club and will go.
They aren’t indispensable. They have real worth for building clubs - who have collateral in the draft.
Keeping them won’t make a huge difference to our ladder position in the next 2-years.
They have long contracts - which adds value to their trade worth and free up our salary cap space.
We have 3 years to get young talent through the draft.
Let’s do it.
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Trade anyone. We need to bank selections before Tassie.
I'd add anyone that is tradable.
Balta Nankervis Vlaustin included.
It is what it is.
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If you watched the game today, without all the players that on the list to be traded we wouldn’t beat even the best VFL sides. Get ready for a long slow ride.
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Trade anyone. We need to bank selections before Tassie.
I'd add anyone that is tradable.
Balta Nankervis Vlaustin included.
It is what it is.
Nah
Those 3 gotta stay
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Correct. A “will drop pants for food” approach makes no sense. We have 8-10 players who are experienced enough to help the transition of new kids. Will need to trade and pick up free agents or rookies to support that over the next few years.
Otherwise - we’ll be like the hapless roos
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Trade anyone. We need to bank selections before Tassie.
I'd add anyone that is tradable.
Balta Nankervis Vlaustin included.
It is what it is.
If they pay overs we'd be silly not to consider
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Should we pick up experienced campaigners for a year to ease the transition as we seem to be losing a lot of players. We were too skinny this year next will be worse. Seb Ross anyone for 1 year
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Should we pick up experienced campaigners for a year to ease the transition as we seem to be losing a lot of players. We were too skinny this year next will be worse. Seb Ross anyone for 1 year
Garner from our VFL side is an obvious option that will cost us nothing, ex-AFL, smart player, leadership qualities, still only in his mid-20's , upgrade on the likes of Dow... wouldn't bring in anyone else unless it was for a token late pick or as a d.f.a.....if we can walk a half decent player into the PSD it would be a bonus...I'd imagine we'll also leave a spot or two open for the SSP and try a few blokes out over the pre-season.... :shh
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Should we pick up experienced campaigners for a year to ease the transition as we seem to be losing a lot of players. We were too skinny this year next will be worse. Seb Ross anyone for 1 year
No for me, draft with regards to giving KMac 2 a fair go? Tiger Cubs for 2 years then bang
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Should we pick up experienced campaigners for a year to ease the transition as we seem to be losing a lot of players. We were too skinny this year next will be worse. Seb Ross anyone for 1 year
Not Seb Ross, but open to some experienced stop-gaps.
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What are Brad miller, Ricky Pettard and Aaron Edwards up to these days?
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Yeah am only talking players who are free effectively who could fill holes for a bit. Otherwise and probably even with these types we are going to get our arses whomped each week next season.
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Nah I reckon just go the kids. We have enough mature bodies.
Lynch, Lefau, Kosi. Mansell.
Broad, Balta, Young, Miller, Vlastuin.
Hopper, Prestia, Taranto, Nank.
Kmac.
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Should we pick up experienced campaigners for a year to ease the transition as we seem to be losing a lot of players. We were too skinny this year next will be worse. Seb Ross anyone for 1 year
Not Seb Ross / I’d consider getting an experienced key forward to give Tom Lynch a chop out and help support Gibcus. Other than that, we have enough experience across the other lines.
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Nah I reckon just go the kids. We have enough mature bodies.
Lynch, Lefau, Kosi. Mansell.
Broad, Balta, Young, Miller, Vlastuin.
Hopper, Prestia, Taranto, Nank.
Kmac.
Add Ross to that list
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Nah I reckon just go the kids. We have enough mature bodies.
Lynch, Lefau, Kosi. Mansell.
Broad, Balta, Young, Miller, Vlastuin.
Hopper, Prestia, Taranto, Nank.
Kmac.
The talls are the problem there - Lefau & Young still "kids" in AFL terms and the latters a dud IMO, Kosi is flat out out crap....Miller's useless as a 1 on 1 defender....Broad's aging and is either in the bests or worsts with no in between...would consider rookie-ing Brindley for experienced depth ...not a world beater but would give us solid coverage and a hardened body right down the spine....would rookie El Nour but he'll still basically be just another inexperienced kid....as I said reckon Garner's enough to add to the depth of experince in the guts....shouldn't be doing stupid crap like giving up picks for the likes of Phillips ,Hobbs , Binns or Tsatas or worse let Freo chuck us some spud like Brodie as steak knives instead of another good pick.... :help
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Nah I reckon just go the kids. We have enough mature bodies.
Lynch, Lefau, Kosi. Mansell.
Broad, Balta, Young, Miller, Vlastuin.
Hopper, Prestia, Taranto, Nank.
Kmac.
Add Ross to that list
Yep agreed. Was just a quick thought but there may be more on the list I've forgotten
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Nah I reckon just go the kids. We have enough mature bodies.
Lynch, Lefau, Kosi. Mansell.
Broad, Balta, Young, Miller, Vlastuin.
Hopper, Prestia, Taranto, Nank.
Kmac.
The talls are the problem there - Lefau & Young still "kids" in AFL terms and the latters a dud IMO, Kosi is flat out out crap....Miller's useless as a 1 on 1 defender....Broad's aging and is either in the bests or worsts with no in between...would consider rookie-ing Brindley for experienced depth ...not a world beater but would give us solid coverage and a hardened body right down the spine....would rookie El Nour but he'll still basically be just another inexperienced kid....as I said reckon Garner's enough to add to the depth of experince in the guts....shouldn't be doing stupid crap like giving up picks for the likes of Phillips ,Hobbs , Binns or Tsatas or worse let Freo chuck us some spud like Brodie as steak knives instead of another good pick.... :help
Looking at mature bodies, not AA squad players. Just need to protect the new draft haul.
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The problem with 12 or 13 bigger bodies is some will be injured so we will have 10 and some of those will Be out of form there is no backup. We had that problem this year, if you play 10 kids you get reamed and none of them learn anything from 15 minutes of contested footy and 65 minutes of junk time.
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The problem with 12 or 13 bigger bodies is some will be injured so we will have 10 and some of those will Be out of form there is no backup. We had that problem this year, if you play 10 kids you get reamed and none of them learn anything from 15 minutes of contested footy and 65 minutes of junk time.
There are also players who will mature in the next few years before this big haul does.
Bauer, Gibcus, Ryan, Hugo, Green, Campbell, Banks, Brown, Clarke, Smith, MRJ, Trezise.
You get the idea. They all have 1-3 or so years in the system now so we just need to survive another 2-5 years before this haul comes good if they ever so.
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At the end of the day….if we can finish 18th with Baker , Rioli and Bolton in our best 22 , we can certainly manage that without them.
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At the end of the day….if we can finish 18th with Baker , Rioli and Bolton in our best 22 , we can certainly manage that without them.
Hopefully...Dyson Sharp the Harley Reid of the 2025 draft.... :shh
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“Blow it up”: Cam Mooney’s advice for Richmond ahead of 2024 trade period
By Lachlan Geleit
SEN
28 Aug 2024
Geelong great Cameron Mooney has some simple advice for Richmond and their current list predicament. Blow it up.
Mooney’s comments come after the Tigers finished 18th in the 2024 AFL season, landing them the No. 1 pick in the upcoming draft.
As well as having the top pick, Mooney thinks that the Tigers should trade out anyone with high trade value – including Daniel Rioli, Shai Bolton and Liam Baker among others – to load up at the draft in the next couple of years.
Mooney thinks it’s imperative that Richmond hit the draft hard now with Tasmania joining the competition in 2028 given the number of picks they’ll have at the top of upcoming drafts to build their list from scratch.
“Blow it up, I reckon get rid of anybody who is worth a pick,” Mooney told SEN WA Breakfast.
“Otherwise, they're going to spend a long, long time down there because with Tasmania coming in we know the story there and what happens there with those picks coming up.
“So, you've got to get as much young talent through the door or 22-to 25-year-olds through the door in the next couple of years of as quickly as you can.
“If you've got a player that is worth particularly a first-round pick, you move him on and that's just the brutal mentality of what football has become.”
Mooney also thinks that it’s important for Adem Yze that Richmond’s youngsters and draftees start showing signs in the next couple of years so that he remains in the top job going forward.
“They've been a great club, they've been great servants, they've been premiership players, but these players don't want to hang around either and spend the last few years of their career, winning three or four games,” Mooney said.
“If they're lucky, they want to move on and you do that, you're bringing all this young talent in because Adam Yze probably has only two more years.
“If they don't look like they're improving, he might be out the door and that's his last chance.”
https://www.sen.com.au/news/2024/08/28/blow-it-up-cam-mooneys-advice-for-richmond-ahead-of-2024-trade-period/
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“Blow it up”: Cam Mooney’s advice for Richmond ahead of 2024 trade period
By Lachlan Geleit
SEN
28 Aug 2024
Geelong great Cameron Mooney has some simple advice for Richmond and their current list predicament. Blow it up.
Mooney’s comments come after the Tigers finished 18th in the 2024 AFL season, landing them the No. 1 pick in the upcoming draft.
As well as having the top pick, Mooney thinks that the Tigers should trade out anyone with high trade value – including Daniel Rioli, Shai Bolton and Liam Baker among others – to load up at the draft in the next couple of years.
Mooney thinks it’s imperative that Richmond hit the draft hard now with Tasmania joining the competition in 2028 given the number of picks they’ll have at the top of upcoming drafts to build their list from scratch.
“Blow it up, I reckon get rid of anybody who is worth a pick,” Mooney told SEN WA Breakfast.
“Otherwise, they're going to spend a long, long time down there because with Tasmania coming in we know the story there and what happens there with those picks coming up.
“So, you've got to get as much young talent through the door or 22-to 25-year-olds through the door in the next couple of years of as quickly as you can.
“If you've got a player that is worth particularly a first-round pick, you move him on and that's just the brutal mentality of what football has become.”
Mooney also thinks that it’s important for Adem Yze that Richmond’s youngsters and draftees start showing signs in the next couple of years so that he remains in the top job going forward.
“They've been a great club, they've been great servants, they've been premiership players, but these players don't want to hang around either and spend the last few years of their career, winning three or four games,” Mooney said.
“If they're lucky, they want to move on and you do that, you're bringing all this young talent in because Adam Yze probably has only two more years.
“If they don't look like they're improving, he might be out the door and that's his last chance.”
https://www.sen.com.au/news/2024/08/28/blow-it-up-cam-mooneys-advice-for-richmond-ahead-of-2024-trade-period/
what exactly happens there Mooney? Clubs dont win flags because the interstate clubs win them all? :banghead
FMD people have short memories we had 2 of them in the last decade.
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“Blow it up”: Cam Mooney’s advice for Richmond ahead of 2024 trade period
By Lachlan Geleit
SEN
28 Aug 2024
Geelong great Cameron Mooney has some simple advice for Richmond and their current list predicament. Blow it up.
Mooney’s comments come after the Tigers finished 18th in the 2024 AFL season, landing them the No. 1 pick in the upcoming draft.
As well as having the top pick, Mooney thinks that the Tigers should trade out anyone with high trade value – including Daniel Rioli, Shai Bolton and Liam Baker among others – to load up at the draft in the next couple of years.
Mooney thinks it’s imperative that Richmond hit the draft hard now with Tasmania joining the competition in 2028 given the number of picks they’ll have at the top of upcoming drafts to build their list from scratch.
“Blow it up, I reckon get rid of anybody who is worth a pick,” Mooney told SEN WA Breakfast.
“Otherwise, they're going to spend a long, long time down there because with Tasmania coming in we know the story there and what happens there with those picks coming up.
“So, you've got to get as much young talent through the door or 22-to 25-year-olds through the door in the next couple of years of as quickly as you can.
“If you've got a player that is worth particularly a first-round pick, you move him on and that's just the brutal mentality of what football has become.”
Mooney also thinks that it’s important for Adem Yze that Richmond’s youngsters and draftees start showing signs in the next couple of years so that he remains in the top job going forward.
“They've been a great club, they've been great servants, they've been premiership players, but these players don't want to hang around either and spend the last few years of their career, winning three or four games,” Mooney said.
“If they're lucky, they want to move on and you do that, you're bringing all this young talent in because Adam Yze probably has only two more years.
“If they don't look like they're improving, he might be out the door and that's his last chance.”
https://www.sen.com.au/news/2024/08/28/blow-it-up-cam-mooneys-advice-for-richmond-ahead-of-2024-trade-period/
what exactly happens there Mooney? Clubs dont win flags because the interstate clubs win them all? :banghead
FMD people have short memories we had 2 of them in the last decade.
Very short memories Frankie
You forgot one :lol :lol :lol
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What worries me is there is no guarantee that the draft picks will be as good as those players who have been traded and further even if they are as good there is no guarantee they will stay long term. Horne Francis is the perfect example. A struggling club struggles to retain talented youth and to attract talented free agents. I hope my fears are baseless
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Yeah I'm a fan of building through the middle like sydney not tanking like Melbourne or Hawthorn. I think tanking is risky you build a culture of failure.
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Sydney have an academy that gifts them talented players.
It’s not a fair comparison.
Most clubs need to bottom out to secure elite talent.
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Yeah I'm a fan of building through the middle like sydney not tanking like Melbourne or Hawthorn. I think tanking is risky you build a culture of failure.
I am certain we haven’t tanked and based on the exodus won’t need to tank over the next 2 years.
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Yeah I'm a fan of building through the middle like sydney not tanking like Melbourne or Hawthorn. I think tanking is risky you build a culture of failure.
I am certain we haven’t tanked and based on the exodus won’t need to tank over the next 2 years.
I agree. We didn’t tank, we just suck. Talent wise I still think our list was far better than what we finished with but the boatload of injuries plus what I’d call a lack of motivation from the senior players won us the spoon. Don’t think it will get worse, because how much worse can you get than a 2 win season, but looking like bottom 4 at a couple of years, then with good drafting we should start to gradually make our way back up :pray
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I like that your onto if we draft well, I heard our recruiting manger is very sick, I wish him the best if he is, but hope he is being covered - for Richmonds sake and for his recovery.
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Should Richmond fans be up in arms about a raft of players departing?
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GYsPQ2mb0AAZGO-?format=jpg&name=small)
https://x.com/traderadio/status/1840602722023940387
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Tiger premiership players who will depart this year alone - Dusty Martin, Liam Baker, Jack Graham, Marlion Pickett, Dylan Grimes, Shai Bolton, Daniel Rioli. 1204 games of experience. With Kamdyn McIntosh still awaiting a contract call. Just eight left from 2020 flag
https://x.com/RalphyHeraldSun/status/1840583810960019699
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Should Richmond fans be up in arms about a raft of players departing?
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GYsPQ2mb0AAZGO-?format=jpg&name=small)
https://x.com/traderadio/status/1840602722023940387
Scary but I am with Cornes on this one
What will be, will be of course
But I am peeved at those wanting out, especially Dan Rioli and Shai Bolton. Both signed huge contracts when the going was great and now things are crap they want out. They and the media can use any excuse they like but to me at least it's a poor reflection on them.
I get that it is a business but they are, to me at least taking the easy way out.
But seeing they don't want to be there, don't let the door hit you on the way out
And will say it again going to be an interesting night at the B&F
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Should Richmond fans be up in arms about a raft of players departing?
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GYsPQ2mb0AAZGO-?format=jpg&name=small)
https://x.com/traderadio/status/1840602722023940387
Scary but I am with Cornes on this one
What will be, will be of course
But I am peeved at those wanting out, especially Dan Rioli and Shai Bolton. Both signed huge contracts when the going was great and now things are crap they want out. They and the media can use any excuse they like but to me at least it's a poor reflection on them.
I get that it is a business but they are, to me at least taking the easy way out.
But seeing they don't want to be there, don't let the door hit you on the way out
And will say it again going to be an interesting night at the B&F
💯 get your point , but whoever is not in see ya later no one bigger then.the club.
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I have absolutely no issues with the players.
The game has changed. I'm glad they are contracted and have decent currency. Look at Jack Macrae. Genuine top 10 player in the comp. Currency is shot now. Clayton Oliver the same, currency is shot. a number of salary dump trades to make way for lost management decisions. These boys are leaving when we are 18th with them and their current is at it's highest. We are very lucky here and need to make most of it.
Yes the draft has risk but what is almost certainly is keeping these guys and them leaving for FA for less or being traded for peanuts like Jack Macrae in a few years. The stroke rate is so much better now days though, not many first rounders don't end up playing a decent amount of footy. Our missed in our dynasty era, we forget those players couldn't get a game in best 22 to develop, won't be an issue for 2024 crop.
Let the first rounders rain.
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Rioli is the big loss from a rebuild perspective. Baker too.
Both can be forced to honour their contracts though, similar to Papley.
As for the games leaving the club, well Dusty + Pickett + Grimes all retired and Graham IMO kinda sucks. The only 3 are the ones trading out.
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Jack Macrae for peanuts sounds good to me. What do we give up?
Happy for Rioli Bolton Baker and Graham to go because we are not playing finals even if they stay. Whats the point of a mid table finishnext year and we dont have a shedload of top 20 picks.
These blokes going at this point in time is perfect for us we should thank them. There is only one proviso it will be very painful if we do not get our picks right 2004 all over again.
Their curency at their age is only going to decline and we are with or without them going to have low finishes for the next 3 or 4 seasons.
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Jack Macrae for peanuts sounds good to me. What do we give up?
Happy for Rioli Bolton Baker and Graham to go because we are not playing finals even if they stay. Whats the point of a mid table finishnext year and we dont have a shedload of top 20 picks.
These blokes going at this point in time is perfect for us we should thank them. There is only one proviso it will be very painful if we do not get our picks right 2004 all over again.
Their curency at their age is only going to decline and we are with or without them going to have low finishes for the next 3 or 4 seasons.
bingo
but no thanks on macrae
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Jack Macrae for peanuts sounds good to me. What do we give up?
Happy for Rioli Bolton Baker and Graham to go because we are not playing finals even if they stay. Whats the point of a mid table finishnext year and we dont have a shedload of top 20 picks.
These blokes going at this point in time is perfect for us we should thank them. There is only one proviso it will be very painful if we do not get our picks right 2004 all over again.
Their curency at their age is only going to decline and we are with or without them going to have low finishes for the next 3 or 4 seasons.
bingo
but no thanks on macrae
Great bloke good player but will stop development, pass
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I’d go for anyone 23-26 years old as that’s the age demographic we look like is going to be a gap. It’s not a huge priority right now but will be in 2-3 years.
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Jack Macrae for peanuts sounds good to me. What do we give up?
Happy for Rioli Bolton Baker and Graham to go because we are not playing finals even if they stay. Whats the point of a mid table finishnext year and we dont have a shedload of top 20 picks.
These blokes going at this point in time is perfect for us we should thank them. There is only one proviso it will be very painful if we do not get our picks right 2004 all over again.
Their curency at their age is only going to decline and we are with or without them going to have low finishes for the next 3 or 4 seasons.
bingo
but no thanks on macrae
Great bloke good player but will stop development, pass
Always thought he wasn't an overly damaging player IMO, just an accumulator.
Also very much out of our demographic need.
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Strong stance from @Richmond_FC legend @KevinBartlett29 in wanting to see the club hold Shai Bolton & Daniel Rioli to their contracts
Hear the full chat: https://open.spotify.com/episode/7F9fencZt1lk9poJVH1AOd?si=VpNhQAVoQlmxcNbM4BIN4w
https://x.com/JoeyPigz/status/1841727929912533193
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Love KB but he also wanted Dusty suspended for 12 months over "chopstickgate".....part of the old (Graeme) Richmond mentality that kept us in the shytter for the best part of four decades... :shh
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I know it might not seem to be the case now but with a little luck and a lot of shrewd recruiting, this draft could well be the start of our next era.
Let the Swans and Cats eat their finals cake.
I would rather have mine in premiership layers. :shh
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It's a five year deal for Bolton. Gets an extra year given he was contracted to 2028. Tigers wanted to keep Bolton-Rioli-Baker. But within 24 hours have wiped $2.5 million off their wage bill. Dusty's $1.3m salary is off the books. Lynch one more year on $1.5m back-ended.
https://x.com/RalphyHeraldSun/status/1846369294743183649
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Richmond with one of the best draft hands of all time.
All they had to do was lose their most talented player, their B&F winner, a crazy brave fan favourite who can play anywhere (very well), and an elite gut runner.
And finish last.
Why isn't everyone doing it!
https://x.com/al_superfooty/status/1846402379350151640
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So after today only 8 premiership tigers left:
Broad (17, 19, 20)
Nank (17, 19, 20)
Prestia (17, 19, 20)
Vlas (17, 19, 20)
Kmac* (17, 20)
Short (19, 20)
Lynch (19, 20)
Balta (20)
*Could become 7 if they don’t give Kamdyn another contract.