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Football => Richmond Rant => Topic started by: the claw on September 17, 2024, 09:10:27 PM

Title: Finals when do we return to them.
Post by: the claw on September 17, 2024, 09:10:27 PM
Pretty simple really what year do we play finals again?
For me if everything goes well we draft and trade well, develop well and manage the list well then maybe 2029. Premiership 2031.
Get these areas wrong then it will be longer.
Title: Re: Finals when do we return to them.
Post by: WilliamPowell on September 17, 2024, 09:21:38 PM
2026
Title: Re: Finals when do we return to them.
Post by: Damo on September 17, 2024, 09:26:08 PM
2026

As in the 2026 the season after next ?

It’s like the old “I didn’t know there was a 5 in the morning”

Just want to make sure I have the year correct

How on earth do we play finals in 2026? How is it possible. I’d love to know the WP blueprint to that timeline. I can’t see how it’s even remotely possible.

We need to finish last next year and jam a heap of games into the kids, draft well again. Then slowly improve

2028 seems optimistic
2029 realistic if we draft well this year and next
Title: Re: Finals when do we return to them.
Post by: Diocletian on September 17, 2024, 10:22:50 PM
Next year #quickbounce :shh
Title: Re: Finals when do we return to them.
Post by: WilliamPowell on September 17, 2024, 10:24:09 PM
2026

As in the 2026 the season after next ?


Yes

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How on earth do we play finals in 2026? How is it possible. I’d love to know the WP blueprint to that timeline. I can’t see how it’s even remotely possible.


no blueprint just a gut feel
Title: Re: Finals when do we return to them.
Post by: Andyy on September 18, 2024, 08:43:48 AM
2030

Just my guess
Title: Re: Finals when do we return to them.
Post by: mat073 on September 18, 2024, 09:58:46 AM
2028 , but we’ll be competitive and tease the 8 before that .
Title: Re: Finals when do we return to them.
Post by: mat073 on September 18, 2024, 10:17:50 AM
I see 2025 as ground zero of our rebuild- similar to 2010 but worse .

Back then at least we had players on the list who would become generational champions.

The next couple of years will be spent stockpiling elite talent.

Probably the worse thing that could happen now is for Lynch to play 20 games next year and we win 10 games and end up in no man’s land.

Title: Re: Finals when do we return to them.
Post by: Andyy on September 18, 2024, 10:41:24 AM
I see 2025 as ground zero of our rebuild- similar to 2010 but worse .

Back then at least we had players on the list who would become generational champions.

The next couple of years will be spent stockpiling elite talent.

Probably the worse thing that could happen now is for Lynch to play 20 games next year and we win 10 games and end up in no man’s land.



So, what would you do if a suitor came along for Lynch?

What sort of trade would it take to get him out of RFC for you?
Title: Re: Finals when do we return to them.
Post by: mat073 on September 18, 2024, 11:21:32 AM
I see 2025 as ground zero of our rebuild- similar to 2010 but worse .

Back then at least we had players on the list who would become generational champions.

The next couple of years will be spent stockpiling elite talent.

Probably the worse thing that could happen now is for Lynch to play 20 games next year and we win 10 games and end up in no man’s land.



So, what would you do if a suitor came along for Lynch?

What sort of trade would it take to get him out of RFC for you?

For a guy who’s played 8 games in 2 years - any pick under 30 is a win .
Title: Re: Finals when do we return to them.
Post by: Andyy on September 18, 2024, 02:11:34 PM
I don't see us playing finals for years.

I can see blokes like Taranto and Hopper being the Geez Newmans of the team and just playing some crappy finals in their twilight.

The list is currently quite poo.

If we clean up in the draft over 24-25 and bring in 6+ players who can help us become a finals team again that won't happen for close to 5 years.
Title: Re: Finals when do we return to them.
Post by: Gigantor on September 18, 2024, 03:41:55 PM
Nothing shocks me in football
With correct planning and development of the youth I can’t see why we can’t turn it around very quickly
However poor recruiting and development could see us take forever once again
Title: Re: Finals when do we return to them.
Post by: Simonator on September 18, 2024, 05:02:13 PM
I’d say 4-5 years, I don’t really care though. I want another dynasty and making finals doesn’t necessarily mean that. We made finals for 3-4 years before missing out in 2016 which obviously was the start of our dynasty
Title: Re: Finals when do we return to them.
Post by: Hard Roar Tiger on September 18, 2024, 10:59:47 PM
Last time we were in this position, it took 4 years but we had a nice base of generational talent with Dusty, Cotch, Shedda, Jack and Rance all establishing themselves.
This time we have a solid core of senior experienced players but very little youth. I can see a bounce in a year or two before we drop as Nank, Vlas, Broad, Lynch and even Meatie retire. We’re gonna need some mature bods to replace that core.
Title: Re: Finals when do we return to them.
Post by: cub on September 21, 2024, 09:23:06 AM
hopeful 2026
Realistic lets give us 3-4 years I'm thinking 2028
But you know what ?
Nothing will ever match 2017 in my eyes, dynasty's are very rare also
Another flag would be nice though
Title: Re: Finals when do we return to them.
Post by: Go Richo 12 on September 21, 2024, 09:43:29 AM
I’m not sure but I am actually looking forward to watching games with little expectations of a win but enjoying watching some kids develop and getting some pride back.
Title: Re: Finals when do we return to them.
Post by: camboon on September 21, 2024, 08:10:54 PM
Both, life on life’s terms , we need to be patient
Title: Re: Finals when do we return to them.
Post by: mightytiges on September 22, 2024, 03:36:00 PM
Maybe will get accused of being too pessimistic but I don't see us returning to finals until the next decade. Losing the likes of Bolton, Rioli and Baker in their prime years means we're going to have to effectively rebuild from scratch as we did from the 2006 draft onwards. In hindsight, it took us 6-7 years to become a finals side and a decade to win the first flag of our dynasty. We're in for a rough couple of years as a supporter base before it turns around even if we do most things right again.
Title: Re: Finals when do we return to them.
Post by: Francois Jackson on September 22, 2024, 10:30:52 PM
i wonder if claw can do an analysis on hawks list prior to picking up ginni, choil vrs our list say next year once we lose baker, dan and bolton.

I think we will mirror the hawks and not play finals until 2029. This would have been 2026 if Dimma left a year early and didnt pick up hopper.

Title: Re: Finals when do we return to them.
Post by: Tiger Khosh on September 23, 2024, 01:10:21 AM
Cmon FJ, I know you despise the trade but giving up pick 31 in the 2022 draft (Toby McMullin) and pick 6 in the 2023 draft, hasn’t set the rebuild back 3 years. The players that went at those picks are Toby McMullin and Daniel Curtin who I don’t think are pegged for superstardom quite yet.
Title: Re: Finals when do we return to them.
Post by: Francois Jackson on September 23, 2024, 06:42:22 AM
Cmon FJ, I know you despise the trade but giving up pick 31 in the 2022 draft (Toby McMullin) and pick 6 in the 2023 draft, hasn’t set the rebuild back 3 years. The players that went at those picks are Toby McMullin and Daniel Curtin who I don’t think are pegged for superstardom quite yet.

Yes I believe it has. Who says we were going to grab curtain. Who says it wouldn't have been Nate Caddy  :shh

We copied the hawks and like them with omeara,  Mitchell etc  will set us back.
Title: Re: Finals when do we return to them.
Post by: Tiger Khosh on September 23, 2024, 09:02:57 AM
Cmon FJ, I know you despise the trade but giving up pick 31 in the 2022 draft (Toby McMullin) and pick 6 in the 2023 draft, hasn’t set the rebuild back 3 years. The players that went at those picks are Toby McMullin and Daniel Curtin who I don’t think are pegged for superstardom quite yet.

Yes I believe it has. Who says we were going to grab curtain. Who says it wouldn't have been Nate Caddy  :shh

We copied the hawks and like them with omeara,  Mitchell etc  will set us back.

It has certainly set us back, there can be no 2-ways about it now that it’s clear we are in full rebuild mode, but 3 years is an exaggeration imo.

Now if your talking the TT and Hopper trade then your probably closer to the money although I’d argue that we’ll need 1 if not both to protect the kids coming through from not getting absolutely smashed physically each week.
Title: Re: Finals when do we return to them.
Post by: MintOnLamb on September 23, 2024, 11:19:06 AM
Looking at the midfielders in this upcoming draft, I would think KMAC 2 would be nervous
Title: Re: Finals when do we return to them.
Post by: one-eyed on September 23, 2024, 10:24:28 PM
"There’s still so many great people there…I’m bullish about how quickly they can bounce back"

 – Trent Cotchin on Richmonds 2025 prospects

https://x.com/DwaynesWorldSEN/status/1838078121565987044
Title: Re: Finals when do we return to them.
Post by: Francois Jackson on September 24, 2024, 07:25:36 AM
"There’s still so many great people there…I’m bullish about how quickly they can bounce back"

 – Trent Cotchin on Richmonds 2025 prospects

https://x.com/DwaynesWorldSEN/status/1838078121565987044

Who exactly would that be Trent?  We haven't even got a s&c coach as the blues decided to pay more than us, as we don't think over spending on elite talent is important.

Title: Re: Finals when do we return to them.
Post by: Diocletian on September 24, 2024, 01:41:14 PM
"There’s still so many great people there…I’m bullish about how quickly they can bounce back"

 – Trent Cotchin on Richmonds 2025 prospects

https://x.com/DwaynesWorldSEN/status/1838078121565987044

Who exactly would that be Trent?  We haven't even got a s&c coach as the blues decided to pay more than us, who don't think over spending on elite talent is important.

Heard we're getting a masseuse from the brothel Capper just sold...only 5 dollar she rub you long time..... :shh
Title: Re: Finals when do we return to them.
Post by: eliminator on September 25, 2024, 07:47:27 AM
Maybe will get accused of being too pessimistic but I don't see us returning to finals until the next decade. Losing the likes of Bolton, Rioli and Baker in their prime years means we're going to have to effectively rebuild from scratch as we did from the 2006 draft onwards. In hindsight, it took us 6-7 years to become a finals side and a decade to win the first flag of our dynasty. We're in for a rough couple of years as a supporter base before it turns around even if we do most things right again.

I hope I am I am wrong but I agree with your view. Not only are we losing players in their prime years but we are losing players that have the x-factor who can change the course of a game and who are quick and skillful. We need to obtain a quality ruckman, quality midfielders and a quality forward which is going to take time. As to when we can return to finals will depend on good drafting and being able to attract good players to come to the club.