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Football => Richmond Rant => Topic started by: one-eyed on October 17, 2024, 06:37:31 PM
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Richmond
Draft picks: 1, 6, 10, 11, 18, 20, 23, 24
Traded in:
Traded out: Liam Baker, Shai Bolton, Jack Graham (FA), Daniel Rioli
List changes: Dylan Grimes (ret), Dustin Martin (ret), Marlion Pickett (ret), Sam Naismith (ret)
Verdict: On face value, losing four of your better players looks like a trade disaster. But the Tigers, fresh off the wooden spoon, are firmly in rebuild mode and these trades should accelerate that. While it will be tough for fans to see Baker, Bolton and Rioli depart, the club is now armed with eight picks inside the top 24 in this year’s super draft, which should set them up for future success.
Rating: 9/10
https://7news.com.au/sport/afl/2024-afl-trade-periods-winners-and-losers-we-rank-your-club-c-16399518
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RICHMOND
Leigh Montagna says: “I think they can do really nicely out of it if they just sit and hold tight. With that many picks, they can balance it out – they can get the best mids early, some key forwards, key defenders and really have a nice balance that they can build on in the next three to four years.”
David King says: “I’ll be surprised if they take that patch of current draft picks into this draft … (they could) stack over two years, rather than take the gamble on this draft being absolutely nailed.”
Sarah Jones says: “They’ve lost three out of their top five in the best-and-fairest, so it’s going to be tough going for a little while there.”
Foxfooty.com.au’s trade grade: A-
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https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/department-of-trade/afl-trade-grades-and-report-card-2024-every-afl-teams-trade-period-graded-and-analysed-best-and-worst-moves-analysis-latest-news/news-story/d5d173738a1750d8c3263f23fad8da03
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mIBbdUcpfBQ&t=823s
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(http://oneeyed-richmond.com/images/draft/2024TradePeriodSEN.png) (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ncSSwtvsQCE&t=1459s)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ncSSwtvsQCE&t=1459s
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9/10 for me.
Think we did about as good as we could
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8/10 for me
Didn’t really like this one (gave up one pick too many)
10. Brisbane trade its 2024 Round 1 selection (currently 20) to Richmond for two 2024 Round 2 selections (currently 32 and 42) and two 2024 Round 3 selections (currently 43 and 45) in the 2024 Telstra AFL Draft.
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Think we achieved what we ste put to achieve
Would have liked to to see us trade in a player from another Club just to see the reaction and discussion :rollin
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I think we did exactly what we planned for - to hit the draft hard! On that front our trade week was a massive success! So glad we didn't trade for some half arsed retread with a bung head (Oliver ... Stringer ... the list goes on ...).
Having traded out players to collect draft picks the next part of the plan comes soon. Who we draft with this haul of first round picks will make or break our approach to trade week.
Please no retreads ... a haul of young guns will make me very happy! :thumbsup
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I'll say a 10/10.
I can't think of a better trade window for where we are at apart from 2016 window when we got Nank, Caddy and Prestia. Could argue FA when we got Lynch. But I am ecstatic at the result.
Simply put Baker, Rioli and Bolton don't see success with us if we successfully rebuild and win a flag in 6 years. Hawks have done it very quickly, yet last time they played finals was a failed 2018 attempt, similar to our 2021. So 6 years on they made finals and may win a flag in next 2-3 years. That's getting close to 10 years from 2018-2028. Meaning our next window can be expected to be 2031 onwards.
In 2031 the 6 first rounders we have on our list will be 24 years old. Bolton Bakes and Rioli will all be retired. Meaning shifting our currency of these players worth into elite 18yo was absolutely imperative to becoming the best again. The alternative is keeping them and being an Essendon for next 10 years.
All the deals look to be successful for what they were worth. Bolton maybe the only one we could have isolated picks 10, 11 but the difference is pick 14 vs pick 18.
I'm very very happy, first part of the job is done for rebuild the next is nailing these picks with 2 elite mids, 2 best key forwards and some running half backs to compliment the Balta, Gibcus spine.
Go you bloody Tigers.
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RFC invest in the draft, its a proven formula to provide a premiership base.
2024, 2025 & 2026 hit the draft.
Development in 2027 + 2028.
Trade & Free Agency for top-up need in 2028/29.
Top 4 in 2029.
Top 2 in 2030.
Plan & Execute because premierships are bloody hard to win.
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9.5 / 10 .
Draft night is going to be like the best Christmas ever .
If we nail 5 of the 8 picks - we could set ourselves up for an exciting future.
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Went for picks, didn't target any spuds, I gave an 8
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Best time to rebuild before Tassie gets all the best talent.
I'd say a 10/10.
What we need is a great development department too. :gotigers
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Blair has already said the goal was to get as many first round picks we can. Now i hope we hang onto what we have.
On how i rate his performance.
i gave him a seven.
No major stuff ups but the bundled pick scenario to Brisvegas was a fail imo.
Bolton imo well we needed a top 5 pick for him i know difficult when the player nominates a club. For me 10 and 11 are unders but okay.
Baker was slight overs and in the ball park
Rioli was about the norm 6 in particular made the trade palatable. 6 and 23 was always going to be about right.
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Matthew Richardson is excited by Richmond’s huge draft haul!
https://x.com/3AWisfootball/status/1847472992168583267
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Blair has already said the goal was to get as many first round picks we can. Now i hope we hang onto what we have.
On how i rate his performance.
i gave him a seven.
No major stuff ups but the bundled pick scenario to Brisvegas was a fail imo.
Bolton imo well we needed a top 5 pick for him i know difficult when the player nominates a club. For me 10 and 11 are unders but okay.
Baker was slight overs and in the ball park
Rioli was about the norm 6 in particular made the trade palatable. 6 and 23 was always going to be about right.
So how to you get to 10/10?
Give less points to Brisbane for P20 / retain 32? Would have been nice but you can bet your nuts other clubs were bidding and we did what we had to, to get that P20. I'm not convinced we could have done a huge amount better here.
Bolton I'd have liked 10 + 11 alone, but we got it done by sliding 14 to 18. Not really that much of a fail except that you think we got unders.
Baker slightly overs we both agree.
Rioli about right we both agree.
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Rioli was major overs. We got lucky that he wanted to go to Gold Coast and that they don’t care about picks.
Look at what the pies gave up for a better player in Houston as a comparison.
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Simple get it all right.
Retain pick 32 and turn it into pick 27 or something. Just like Brissie did with the pick
We gave up a whopping 1714 points for a pick worth 912.
The four picks we gave up would be worth gold on draft night.
Even if we gave up 42,43, 45, and 51 we would still be giving away 1379 points.
On many levels i think this deal was a fail.
To not get a very early pick for Shai was a miss imo.To lose pick 14 well lets just say not happy.
In all trades we got a decent outcome but it could have been damn better. Hence only 7 out of ten for me.
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Rioli was major overs. We got lucky that he wanted to go to Gold Coast and that they don’t care about picks.
Look at what the pies gave up for a better player in Houston as a comparison.
This is just horse poo. Carlton gave up pick 8 for Saad.
Houston probably had the better year marginally but for god sakes swap jumpers and watch him then.
Reality is that Suns got about what they should’ve for a player that fills a specific need at the top of his game. He will be an absolute superstar in that team.
Yes, Collingwood got unders and Port were shafted. That’s the reality. But Rioli is at least Houston’s peer
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Houston is superior to Rioli imo regardless of what team he plays for, he’s just the better player.
Saad was traded to carlton for pick 8 which I’ll also classify that as overs and that’s still noticeably less than what we got Rioli for being pick 6 and 23.
Again we got lucky that it was the suns, no other club is making a deal like that. I mean they gave up pick 2 for Lachie Weller for goodness sakes.
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I reckon the 23 was cancelled out by all the late picks they got for academy players. In was in effect pick 6. I don’t really get the Houston pr, he’s a high half back, good player lovely kick but would struggle in a bottom 3 team. One position player, non defensive - easiest place on the park to get a kick.
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agree HRT. I thought i was the only person in the country who doesnt buy his worth. FMD since when did he become the best player in the afl?
Rioli remember is a premiership player who has performed in grand finals.
stuff i hope the pies stuff this right up
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Those late picks when put together still only combine to be the equivalent of pick 40 so can’t say that cancels out the additional pick 23 that we got.
I think it all comes down to my perception that half back flankers just aren’t worth top10 picks. Whether that’s Rioli, Saad or Houston.
Houston to me is the best of the 3. Best kick, best mark and best contested player of the 3. Defensively none of them are great but that’s not really the job of a half back flanker these days.
Anyway more than happy to get overs on that one.
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Houston's a poor man's Dawson. :shh
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I reckon the 23 was cancelled out by all the late picks they got for academy players. In was in effect pick 6. I don’t really get the Houston pr, he’s a high half back, good player lovely kick but would struggle in a bottom 3 team. One position player, non defensive - easiest place on the park to get a kick.
Such a shame the honest appraisal of Houston was not applied to Rioli.
Not having a go when it comes to their own players most supporters of all clubs are blinkered.
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The appraisal was a comparison. As stated, I don’t get the pr on Houston