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Football => Richmond Rant => Topic started by: TigerLand on October 19, 2024, 01:26:46 PM
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Tigerlands Mock Draft Picks 1-24:
Taken me a while, done my best to have a bit of a study of what club needs and their draft history. Watched a fair bit of the Under 18s and studying the combine, just an opinion. Feel free to weigh in. Just up to Pick 24, lets be honest what ever is after is irrelevant. I'm not bothing with the F/S and Academy players as they don't impact the draft selections so to speak.
Pick 1: Richmond
Finn O'SULLIVAN
182cm, Midfielder, Oakleigh, Vic Metro
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For a long time I rated Smillie and pick 1, and Mr Consistent Jagga Smith was next in line. Smith is the safe bet, but so is O'Sullivan but with a bigger ceiling on my opinion. I think in a way I prefer Jagga to handle the Pick 1 pressure as he's so consistent and won't cop criticism for poor games, but may not have blinders. Building to be the best team again I think O'Sullivan is our man. Lalor, really has only been in discussions as pick 1 post games and him getting injured has weirdly elevated him as a Pick 1 contender. He has attributes to be the best player in the draft, but unsure that happens with Pick 1 tag, especially off a bad hammy. Sadly I don't think we take the risk on him.
Reminds me of.. Scott Pendlebury
Pick 2: North Melbourne
Josh SMILLIE
194cm, Midfielder, Eastern Ranges, Vic Metro
Looking at their draft profile he just fits. Langford does too but I don't think Langford is a 1. There is a risk with Smillie in that he dropped away a bit and not making All Aus side was a huge red flag. North needs are down back, they could do a smokey and pick Trainor but I highly doubt at Pick 2. Their midfield is filled with classy users, they need a bull. Smillie is that. They could pick Lalor but I think Smillie is a better fit. Jagga Smith is a chance but he's very similar to LDU and Wardlow and with McKercher now getting midfield time with Daniel being drafted I think Jagga is same same for North. Smillie fit perfectly and in a way probably undeservedly goes Pick 2. Real smokey here is Alix Taura. North defense is rubbish and needs attention. List management wise they either have a few FA in mind over next 2-3 years to join them but stocks are so poor at the moment they could go Trainor and Tauru at 2. Lots of talk that they can get them later in the draft and could see them have our pick 10 for either of them and another pick so this pick will be fascinating to watch come draft night.
Reminds me of... Patrick Cripps
Pick 3: Carlton
Sam Lalor
187cm, Midfielder, Rebels, Vic Country
Blues wanted pick 3 for either Lalor or FOS. In a way hope they are both taken at pick 1 and 2. Lalor fills that whole that is now opened up from Kennedy leaving and improves them sadly. If Lalor and FOS are both taken before pick 3, can see them going for Smillie or Langord, think they also pass on Jagga as they have Cerra and Walsh who play that same role already.
Reminds me of... (sigh) I guess Dusty..
Pick 4: Adelaide
Sid Draper
180cm, Midfielder, South Adelaide, SA
This kid is a jet, has got absolutely zero media apart from the weird rumour he didn't want to go to Adelaide because of Rachele treatment. I'd be fine with him at Richmond next year even at 1. Can not see Adelaide passing up the home boy especially when hes come out and said he'd be happy to go to Adelaide. They'll have watched him closer than anyone and in a dodgy midfield he plays round 1.
Reminds me of... Patrick Dangerfield
Pick 5: Melbourne
Harry Armstrong
195cm, Forward, Sandringham, Vic Metro
The hardest draft pick to predict. Melb are still in premiership window, they have bull of a midfield although under performing. They have absolutely zero forwardline and now Ben Brown has retired and have absolutely nothing Free agency wise to help them. I'm very nervous that Melbourne take Armstrong at 6. List wise, I can't see how they don't. They have absolutely no key forwards apart from Van Rooyen. I can't do a serious draft and look at lists without picking Armstrong at 6. We may come into play and do a pick swap to try and get Armstrong but I predict that Dees will really want Armstrong.
Reminds me of... Josh Kennedy
Pick 6: Richmond
Jagga Smith
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181cm, Midfielder, Oakley, Vic Metro
I feel like I've stuffed this already with Jagga floating out to 6 but looking at list analysis, apart from us and Adelaide, none are in a market for a consistent accumulator, so somehow he may get to pick 6 which we chomp that off at the bit. Jagga gets to Tiges at 6 and we get our FOS and Jagga combo.
Reminds me of.. Lachie Neale
Pick 7: St. Kilda
Harvey Langford
190cm, Midfielder, Dandenong, Vic Country
Saints midfield is so poor, I can see them drafting 2 midfielders at 7 and 8 to help Steele. Langford is that bigger body to help Steele more and at Pick 8, I see them taking Reid who is class and Nick Dal Santo mould.
Reminds me of.. Patrick Cripps
Pick 8: St. Kilda
Murphy Reid
190cm, Midfielder, Dandenong, Vic Country
See above.
Reminds me of.. Nick Dal Santo
Pick 9: Melbourne
Luke Trainor
194cm, Midfielder, Sandingham, Vic Metro
Toss up between him or Tauru for Dees. They are happy to draft a gun kid when they have an experienced head at the club. Eg Jackson drafted when Gawn was there. May is 32 so they need to consider next Key Defender post May and it's a perfect time to draft an elite defender to learn off him and step in after a couple of years to develop nicely. With May injury history could debut in 2025 anyway.
Reminds me of... Jake Lever/Josh Gibcus
Pick 10: Richmond
Jobe Shanahan
194cm, Key Forward, Benigo, Vic Country
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I really rate this kid. Has a bit of Balta about him. Really strong 1 on 1, elite on the lead for a big guy. Set shot accuracy is on point and has a 5 goal haul in the VFL. I'd love Armstrong and Shanahan at 10 and 11 but sadly I can't see Melbourne passing on him with 2 picks before this. Jobe may end up better than him anyway. Could argue he could be there at 18, which he may but with Armstrong gone I wouldn't risk it. We absolutely need 1 of them to start developing. Plus a top 2-3 in the draft key forward next year before Tassie comes in.
Reminds me off.... Joe Daniher (a consistent one)
Pick 11: Richmond
Tony Travaglia
187cm, Running Back, Bendigo, Vic Country
With Rioli gone and Short not really the same player, we have a hole in a running back. Can see TT coming to fill that exact hole and play round 1. Play a bit like McKercher has in his first year at Roos, taking kick ins and behind the ball.
Rmeinds me of... Hayden Young.
Pick 12: WCE
Bo Allen
191cm, Midfielder, Peel, WA
Eagles will be very very luck there stupid trade deals will land them with the player they want. I can see us drafting him over TT but I think our HB need is greater then an extra mid at this stage of the draft.
Reminds me of... Chad Warner
Pick 13: Port Adelaide
Taj Hotton
182cm, Mid/Fwd, Sandringham, Vic Metro
Bit of a hard one this one as Ports strategy has been a bit hard to read. Lost Houston, in a heap of dead wood. Back line is solid, midfield is too. Forwards and running back to replace Houston are areas of focus. Hotton is on the table to partner Rioli up forward. Absolute jet and steal at 13. Can't see him on table at 18 but will cross fingers on draft night. Port will rely on Farrell to fill that Houston spot full time.
Reminds me of.. Shai Bolton
Pick 14: Fremantle
Alix Tauru
193cm, Key Defender, Gippsland, Vic Country
Bit of a bolter but had an elite combine and back end to season. Huge development upside, could be top 10 and i reckon Melbourne would be sniffing. Freo defenders are iffy. Especially with Pearc injury history.
Remidns me of.. Sam De Koning
Pick 15: GWS
Xavier Lindsay
183cm, Midfielder, Gippsland, Vic Country
Classy, injured 2024. Was top 10 even top 5 predicted last year with Moraes, plenty happens in a year and that's not uncommon if form drops away but him sliding is injury based. Great get at 15 by GWS.
Reminds me of.. Zac Merrett
Pick 16: GWS
Jack Whitlock
200cm, Midfielder, Murray, Vic Country
Need a decent partner for Hogan, Jack slots in nicely as a 2nd forward. Could be Faull but I've rated Jack for a while and will take him marginally ahead.
Reminds me of.. Joe Daniher
Pick 17: Bulldogs
Joe Berry
180cm, Small Forward, Murray, Vic Country
Lost midfield depth, can't see them picking a tall forward. Joe Berry is on the table, they do have Coby Weightman so I'm coy to pick him but going off Hawks model having 2 elite small forwards is powerful. Hynes is a chance at this pick but educated guess Dogs may go for fire power and back their mids without Smith and Macrae like they did this year anyway. Sanders needs to break into that midfield as well.
Pick 18: Richmond
Jonty Faull
200cm, Key Forward, GWV, Vic Country
Big boy from the country, has a bit of development in him. Very happy to get 2 very good key forwards in the draft. Allows us to now explore some midfield depth as the picks in the 20s will have a few of these types of players.
Reminds me of... Taylor Walker
Pick 19: Sydney
Matt Whitlock
199cm, Key Back, Murray, Vic Country
unsure if Sydney back stocks stack up. Forwards they don't have anything really elite and Logan McDonald isn't developing and the rest are hit and miss. Backline is aging and with losing Patty McCartin I don't reckon they've really replaced him properly. Matt is a nice pick for them in that he could develop at either end of the ground for them.
Pick 20: Richmond
Cooper Hynes
190cm, Midfielder, Dandenong, Vic Country
Solid bodied midfielder. Reminds me a lot of Shaun Grigg actually, identical build and playing style. Like him and fits our mould nicely. May be off the table at 20 but certainly a nice pick up with this pick.
Pick 21: Sydney
Jesse Datolli
179cm, Midfielder, Dandenong, Vic Country
I'll confess didn't really impress me, but plenty of media around that he will go top 25. Watch him be a star and ofcourse Swans draft him.
Pick 22: GWS
Alex Dodson
203cm, Ruck, SA
Best ruck in the draft. He could go to us with our ruck stocks. Our history suggest we trade in our rucks instead of develop, going back decades. GWS lost Pruess and don't really have any decent young rucks. Think Dodson finds his way to GWS.
Pick 23: Richmond
Tom Gross
181cm, Key Forward, GWV, Vic Country
We need forwards and Gross is a bit of a Caddy type. With some small forwards coming on and the rookie draft proving helpful in this spot for us. Medium forwards are lacking, especially now Bolton is gone and ofcourse Dusty. I can see Gross playing round 1 as a plucky half forward. Be a tough ask but its certainlty a need on our list and he's a fine player and well worthy of a pick in the low 20s.
Reminds me of... Josh Caddy
Pick 24: Richmond
Christian Morares
183cm, Midfielder, ER, Vic Metro
Was tipped to be top 3 pick after last years draft when he was bottom age. Some were saying pick 1. Not a great sign to slide down by this much, but I'd take the risk at 24. He will go top 30 and could get an absolute player in the 20s that will be hailed as a masterstroke in years to come.
So.. a couple of things I learnt. We need to pray and cross fingers Melb pass 2 picks on Armstrong, if they do I reckon he gets to 10.
Would love Hotton but think too many clubs will have a look at him before our Pick 18. If he's there very very lucky.
Need to hope Whitlock or Faull are there for pick 18 if Armstrong is taken early so we can walk away with 2 key forwards. I'd be amazed if this isn't our strategy at the start of a rebuild.
Other random thoughts are pick 6 could be anything depending on what we do with NM and pick 2, or if they draft who they draft is tricky. Melb first pick is a huge unknown as well so be interesting who that is as that'll shape our picks 10, 11 hugely.
Feel free to pick away at it, just a guess and very likely to be wrong. I'd love to be wrong and somehow find FOS and Lalor with our first 2 picks. Unsure how that happens but be fantastic in my eyes. Would also love Armstrong and Shanahan at 10, 11 and the Hotton late with Hynes and Moraes.
Bring on draft night! :gotigers
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Great job a lot of effort.
I am hoping Smillie slides to 6.
Armstrong to 10.
Regardless we need to target 2 of Armstrong, Shanahan or Faull.
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Great job a lot of effort.
I am hoping Smillie slides to 6.
Armstrong to 10.
Regardless we need to target 2 of Armstrong, Shanahan or Faull.
Agree on the big boys. I'm confident pick 11 and 18 and can get Shanahan and Faull at worst. If Amrstrong is there at 10, and I'm hoping then we have a decision with 11. We could take TT or go earlyish on Hotton and bank on Shanahan being their at 18 if not Faulll I think will.
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1 FOS, 2 Lalor 6 traded for 2 10.Hotton 11 traded for 2 18 Faull 20 trade for F1 & later pick23 Hannaford 24 Hynes later pick from pick 20 trade Charlie Nicholls Rookie: Sam Davidson (not my choice but believe that's what will happen) :shh
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Popelord? Hahaha stuff me how'd I not realise you'd changed your name.
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1 FOS, 2 Lalor 6 traded for 2 10.Hotton 11 traded for 2 18 Faull 20 trade for F1 & later pick23 Hannaford 24 Hynes later pick from pick 20 trade Charlie Nicholls Rookie: Sam Davidson (not my choice but believe that's what will happen) :shh
Really think we need to get more KPF talent than your suggestion here.
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I'm not trading pick 6&11 for 2.
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I'm not trading pick 6&11 for 2.
Hell to the no.
Maybe 10 + 11 at most, but I'd rather not.
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6&18 for pick 2 or keep picks as they are. North are only sliding 4 places and getting a good pick. We should be very happy either way.
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6&18 for pick 2 or keep picks as they are. North are only sliding 4 places and getting a good pick. We should be very happy either way.
Would do that in a flash, sadly I can’t see anyway they would do that. Would they consider it for 6, 18 and one of our picks in the 20s?
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Popelord? Hahaha stuff me how'd I not realise you'd changed your name.
Thought Machine was Popelord - why I used to call him Dopelord.... :facepalm
1 FOS, 2 Lalor 6 traded for 2 10.Hotton 11 traded for 2 18 Faull 20 trade for F1 & later pick23 Hannaford 24 Hynes later pick from pick 20 trade Charlie Nicholls Rookie: Sam Davidson (not my choice but believe that's what will happen) :shh
Really think we need to get more KPF talent than your suggestion here.
The KPF talent ain't that good this year....next year widely regarded as better.... :shh
I'm not trading pick 6&11 for 2.
If we want FoS & Lalor as is widely believed, then that's what it will take.... :shh :shh
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Popelord? Hahaha stuff me how'd I not realise you'd changed your name.
Thought Machine was Popelord - why I used to call him Dopelord.... :facepalm
1 FOS, 2 Lalor 6 traded for 2 10.Hotton 11 traded for 2 18 Faull 20 trade for F1 & later pick23 Hannaford 24 Hynes later pick from pick 20 trade Charlie Nicholls Rookie: Sam Davidson (not my choice but believe that's what will happen) :shh
Really think we need to get more KPF talent than your suggestion here.
The KPF talent ain't that good this year....next year widely regarded as better.... :shh
I'm not trading pick 6&11 for 2.
If we want FoS & Lalor as is widely believed, then that's what it will take.... :shh :shh
You’ve got rocks in your head if you think we’ll trade 6 & 11 for 2…NO CHANCE
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Popelord? Hahaha stuff me how'd I not realise you'd changed your name.
Thought Machine was Popelord - why I used to call him Dopelord.... :facepalm
1 FOS, 2 Lalor 6 traded for 2 10.Hotton 11 traded for 2 18 Faull 20 trade for F1 & later pick23 Hannaford 24 Hynes later pick from pick 20 trade Charlie Nicholls Rookie: Sam Davidson (not my choice but believe that's what will happen) :shh
Really think we need to get more KPF talent than your suggestion here.
The KPF talent ain't that good this year....next year widely regarded as better.... :shh
I'm not trading pick 6&11 for 2.
If we want FoS & Lalor as is widely believed, then that's what it will take.... :shh :shh
You’ve got rocks in your head if you think we’ll trade 6 & 11 for 2…NO CHANCE
Hey, we agree on something.
I'm sure clubs talk to one another when it comes to the top 10 picks or so. Who's gonna draft who etc.
If we desperately wanted the top 2 picks I would consider training 10+11 for 2, and I think Carlton/WCE set the precedent/price with the P3 trade recently.
But I would only do that if I knew the guys we want around 10-11 are likely not to be there (Armstrong, for example).
I'd love FOS + Lalor and then for Smillie to slide to 6. But if it's going to cost us options like Armstrong and Shanahan around 10-11 I don't know if we should do it.
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11 and 14 would have been close for 2 IMO, thus retaining 6 and 10....
Ooh hang out we dont have 14. :banghead
There will be no chance armstrong is left on the board IMO, though it depends how much freo, gws, eagles need a forward from Melbourne. They all stand in the way before our pick 18. I very much doubt Buldogs will be picking a forward at 17.
I think dees will grab him with that bombers pick
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11 and 14 would have been close for 2 IMO, thus retaining 6 and 10....
Ooh hang out we dont have 14. :banghead
There will be no chance armstrong is left on the board IMO, though it depends how much freo, gws, eagles need a forward from Melbourne. They all stand in the way before our pick 18. I very much doubt Buldogs will be picking a forward at 17.
I think dees will grab him with that bombers pick
If not I reckon we have a go at 10 for sure
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Great work TigerLand. Great insight, much appreciated well done. :clapping :clapping
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I don't mind trading 10 and 11 for 2, if this means we get Armstrong at 6.
A scenario that I really like is. 10, 11 for 2.
1. FOS
2. Lalor
6. Armstrong
18. Shanahan
If we could get those 4 that way it'd be enormous.
Trading 6 id only entertain if it was 6 and 23/24.
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Admittedly I've only seen the. You tube highlights of Armstrong but it doesn't excite me that much.
But what do I know, nothing really
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Admittedly I've only seen the. You tube highlights of Armstrong but it doesn't excite me that much.
But what do I know, nothing really
Kid can clunk a mark despite what you may read. He also has very good agility and is not slow.
For me Armstrong is one of two who i would consider at 11.The other is one im going to keep my powder dry. Anyway i Have liked this kid from a long way out.
My biggest concern is judging him properly because in a lot of games its been a bit of men against boys. What alleviates those concerns is his attributes for the level.
Every single thing points to the draft being so even. So im against going for pick two, I think some kids are being undervalued in all the hype about the top 5 - 7. For me finding a way to get more picks in the twenties or early thirties was the way to go. If there are sliders and there will be a few we currently have no way to have a crack at them. This draft id be happy with ten picks and the talk is to reduce the 8 we currently have by trading for pick two.
I'm not sure how we do that now.
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SNIP
Enough with the trolling and baiting
Stick to the topic :banghead
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WA key forward Gerryn is very good prospect.
https://central.rookieme.com/afl/player/kayle-gerreyn/