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Football => Richmond Rant => Topic started by: one-eyed on October 27, 2024, 07:48:16 PM
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Richmond's Best 23 next year according to Foxsports:
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WE SAY: The first thing worth noting with Richmond’s listed 23 above, is that it will almost certainly have a number of new draftees that find their way into the team come Round 1 — including the No. 1 pick. As we already know, the quartet of Jack Graham, Liam Baker, Daniel Rioli and Shai Bolton hurts their depth significantly; not to mention all of their premiership experience. That said, Punt Road have well and truly committed to a rebuild given their draft hand this off-season, which will hopefully bring the club plenty of much-needed energy. The likes of Kane McAuliffe, Judson Clarke and Jacob Blight will all be hoping to start the season in the senior side, having been exposed at various points in 2024. McAuliffe and Clarke just missed out, while Tom Brown got the start ahead of the uncontracted Kamdyn McIntosh. We also went for Mykelti Lefau — who’ll be returning from an ACL rupture — over Jacob Koschitzke, despite the latter’s solid finish to the 2024 season. A healthy year out of Tom Lynch will clearly make a world of difference, so too Tim Taranto, Dion Prestia and Jacob Hopper, while Josh Gibcus returns from an ACL injury.
https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/afl-204-every-clubs-best-23-for-2024-after-the-trade-period-and-free-agency-lineups-teams-recruits-latest-news/news-story/02eedece027d47b71066ceb139d0de55
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This is redundant given we’ll have a handful of draftees lining up
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This is redundant given we’ll have a handful of draftees lining up
Will we though?. Have a look at our recruiting the last 5 or 6 seasons and we just tragically lost the bloke who was to fix this up.
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Good lord man, it’s like you just pick a day each week where you come through and just post negative comments on 5-10 threads.
It’s the off-season, we’ve got a draft coming up with our best hand in many years. can you not let the rest of us be optimistic without calling us idiots or yes men or blinded by our Richmond coloured goggles.
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I have Lefau, Nankervis, Hopper, ,Lynch and Prestia playing only about half the year before they are injured. So there will be plenty of spots for kids.
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For me, it’s not about playing our best 23 each week, it’s about playing who we think will be in our best 23 in 12-24 months time.
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B: Broad Balta Vlastin
HB: Short Gibcus Brown
C: HRS Smillie Ross
HF: Lalor Bauer Hotton
F: Rioli Lynch Faull
R: Nank Taranto Prestia
Int: Hopper Sonsie McAulife Trainor
Play them all. stuff it.
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B: Broad Balta Vlastin
HB: Short Gibcus Brown
C: HRS Smillie Ross
HF: Lalor Bauer Hotton
F: Rioli Lynch Faull
R: Nank Taranto Prestia
Int: Hopper Sonsie McAulife Trainor
Play them all. stuff it.
Alger sub?
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B: Broad Balta Vlastin
HB: Short Gibcus Brown
C: HRS Smillie Ross
HF: Lalor Bauer Hotton
F: Rioli Lynch Faull
R: Nank Taranto Prestia
Int: Hopper Sonsie McAulife Trainor
Play them all. stuff it.
Hotton won't be ready for round 1. Did his ACL in May, 12 month recovery so won't see him to mid season. Which is the right approach IMHO
Ditto, Mykelti.... for anyone thinking he might be a show for round 1.
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B: Broad Balta Vlastin
HB: Short Gibcus Brown
C: HRS Smillie Ross
HF: Lalor Bauer Hotton
F: Rioli Lynch Faull
R: Nank Taranto Prestia
Int: Hopper Sonsie McAulife Trainor
Play them all. stuff it.
Alger sub?
Yep but with Hotton still out ACL, let's chuck him on ground and make Sonsie the sub.
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IMHO
we are blessed with a plethora of riches.
How we progress will depend on rewarding good performance and not making selections based on past performance.
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Snip
While I get the post was in jest, it was still baiting a poster
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It was a work of art, you know what they say about imitation…..
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Broad. Balta. Vlastuin. Gibcus. Brown. Trainor. Short.
I like the look of the backline.
Hopefully short can pull the finger out. Gibcus has got to be due some luck.
Replacing the run of Rioli might be a problem. There are apparently rumors of Clarke going back when he gets fit and banks might be an option?
Personally I am not that high on young and I think miller is better as depth
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Key Backs:
Balta, Gibcus, Trainor, Miller, Blight, Young
Med Sized Backs:
Broad, Vlastiun, Brown
Running Backs:
Short, Banks, Trecize, Banks
Contested Mids
Taranto, Hopper, Lalor, Smillie, McAullife, Dow
Outside Mids:
Prestia, Ross (both a bit contested), HRS, Sonsie, Hotton, McInstosh
Small Forwards
M.Rioli, Clarke, Campbell, Alger, Green
Medium Fwds
Lefau, Bauer
Key Fwds
Lynch, Faull, Armstrong, Fawcett, Ryan, Kossi, Gray
I've probably missed someone. Looking at the list I love that our backline is solid and bolstered with quality youth that will be around for a while. Balta, Gibcus and Trainor will all be together for 5 years+
I'm concerned at our running backs, but Short may pull a finger out and this position can easily be replaced with 1st year draftees as North have shown with McKercher and Sheezal being very effective in this role in first year.
Contested Mids are stacked but our outside mids definitely needs work in next 2 years of drafting, trade or FA.
Reckon we let go 3 of Bauer, Lefau, Kossi, Ryan and Gray very soon, maybe even 4.
Lovely list building.
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Banks so good he’s named twice as a running back :lol. Just chuck in smithy to replace 1 of him.
Also defs need to list Prestia as an inside mid.
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I reckon balta will play forward all year in the inevitable absence of lynch due to tweaking his fingernail. I foresee some new kids being played in the backline to give them games after they realise miller is a spud and our backline leaking like a sieve.
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Your club's best 22 in 2025
- Josh Gabelich
afl.com.au
2 Dec 2024
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No team will look more different than Richmond in 2025. The Tigers lost some of their best players – Daniel Rioli, Shai Bolton, Liam Baker and Jack Graham – to other clubs, plus Dustin Martin and Dylan Grimes to retirement. It meant Richmond had six first-round picks in November's Telstra AFL Draft. Sam Lalor, Josh Smillie, Jonty Faull, Luke Trainor and Harry Armstrong are all expected to get plenty of opportunities in Adem Yze's second season in charge, while Taj Hotton is recovering from a knee reconstruction. Judson Clarke, Mykelti Lefau, Tylar Young and Josh Gibcus are all still recovering from ACL tears.
B: Nathan Broad Noah Balta Nick Vlastuin
HB: Jayden Short Josh Gibcus Tom Brown
C: Jack Ross Tim Taranto Hugo Ralphsmith
HF: Rhyan Mansell Harry Armstrong Sam Lalor
F: Maurice Rioli jnr Tom Lynch Seth Campbell
Foll: Toby Nankervis Dion Prestia Jacob Hopper
I/C: Josh Smillie Ben Miller Steely Green Jonty Faull
Emg: Sam Banks James Trezise Luke Trainor Thomson Dow
https://www.afl.com.au/news/1260580/your-clubs-best-22-in-2025-whos-in-whos-out-whos-new
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It's a bit sad Thompson Dow only makes the emergencies given we are playing how many 0 game newbies in that lineup.
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It's a bit sad Thompson Dow only makes the emergencies given we are playing how many 0 game newbies in that lineup.
Nah what was sad was seeing him get games ahead of a guy like McAuliffe last year and it will be sad AF if he gets games above either Lalor or Smillie in '25.
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It's a bit sad Thompson Dow makes the emergencies should be playing 0 games.
efa :shh
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Your club's best 22 in 2025
- Josh Gabelich
afl.com.au
2 Dec 2024
(https://resources.afl.com.au/photo-resources/2020/11/17/8a4c2df0-2497-41a0-85ac-8cab8feed48a/richmond.jpg?width=1511)
No team will look more different than Richmond in 2025. The Tigers lost some of their best players – Daniel Rioli, Shai Bolton, Liam Baker and Jack Graham – to other clubs, plus Dustin Martin and Dylan Grimes to retirement. It meant Richmond had six first-round picks in November's Telstra AFL Draft. Sam Lalor, Josh Smillie, Jonty Faull, Luke Trainor and Harry Armstrong are all expected to get plenty of opportunities in Adem Yze's second season in charge, while Taj Hotton is recovering from a knee reconstruction. Judson Clarke, Mykelti Lefau, Tylar Young and Josh Gibcus are all still recovering from ACL tears.
B: Nathan Broad Noah Balta Nick Vlastuin
HB: Jayden Short Josh Gibcus Tom Brown
C: Jack Ross Tim Taranto Hugo Ralphsmith
HF: Rhyan Mansell Harry Armstrong Sam Lalor
F: Maurice Rioli jnr Tom Lynch Seth Campbell
Foll: Toby Nankervis Dion Prestia Jacob Hopper
I/C: Josh Smillie Ben Miller Steely Green Jonty Faull
Emg: Sam Banks James Trezise Luke Trainor Thomson Dow
https://www.afl.com.au/news/1260580/your-clubs-best-22-in-2025-whos-in-whos-out-whos-new
I'm glad you have Banks as an emergency as he is a momentum killer. Whenever he gets a mark or free kick he often takes too long to decide where to kick the ball, by then all options are closed and he has to kick it
long to a pack. Our coaching staff need to coach him to to move the ball quickly even if the option is only 20 mt. away. (this presumes that he hasn't been instructed to hold it up).
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Your club's best 22 in 2025
- Josh Gabelich
afl.com.au
2 Dec 2024
(https://resources.afl.com.au/photo-resources/2020/11/17/8a4c2df0-2497-41a0-85ac-8cab8feed48a/richmond.jpg?width=1511)
No team will look more different than Richmond in 2025. The Tigers lost some of their best players – Daniel Rioli, Shai Bolton, Liam Baker and Jack Graham – to other clubs, plus Dustin Martin and Dylan Grimes to retirement. It meant Richmond had six first-round picks in November's Telstra AFL Draft. Sam Lalor, Josh Smillie, Jonty Faull, Luke Trainor and Harry Armstrong are all expected to get plenty of opportunities in Adem Yze's second season in charge, while Taj Hotton is recovering from a knee reconstruction. Judson Clarke, Mykelti Lefau, Tylar Young and Josh Gibcus are all still recovering from ACL tears.
B: Nathan Broad Noah Balta Nick Vlastuin
HB: Jayden Short Josh Gibcus Tom Brown
C: Jack Ross Tim Taranto Hugo Ralphsmith
HF: Rhyan Mansell Harry Armstrong Sam Lalor
F: Maurice Rioli jnr Tom Lynch Seth Campbell
Foll: Toby Nankervis Dion Prestia Jacob Hopper
I/C: Josh Smillie Ben Miller Steely Green Jonty Faull
Emg: Sam Banks James Trezise Luke Trainor Thomson Dow
https://www.afl.com.au/news/1260580/your-clubs-best-22-in-2025-whos-in-whos-out-whos-new
I'm glad you have Banks as an emergency as he is a momentum killer. Whenever he gets a mark or free kick he often takes too long to decide where to kick the ball, by then all options are closed and he has to kick it
long to a pack. Our coaching staff need to coach him to to move the ball quickly even if the option is only 20 mt. away. (this presumes that he hasn't been instructed to hold it up).
I attended a briefing held by Dimma about 5 years ago, he said he would hear the crowd yelling move it on, kick it , etc etc.
He said he'd be in the box saying slow it down, slow it down :)
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I have Lefau, Nankervis, Hopper, ,Lynch and Prestia playing only about half the year before they are injured. So there will be plenty of spots for kids.
Actually think we will start without all of Gibcus, Young, Lefau, Clarke to allow full recovery.
Also Lalor, Hotten, Trainor for recovery and Faull, Armstrong, Sims and Alger for physical development. Only Smillie to start.
Brown Balta Short
Banks Blight Vlastuin
McIntosh Taranto Ralphsmith
Mansell Fawcett Smillie
Ryan Lynch Campbell
Nank Hopper Sonsie
Broad Ross McAuliffe Prestia
Over the season I expect Gibcus, Smith, Young, Trainor, Tresize to come into the backline.
Lalor, Hotten, Lefau, Clarke, Green and Smillie into the midfield.
Armstrong, Faull, Sims, Alger and any of the above into the forward line.
May well only have one or two wins by mid-season when we get a good look at all our players but no problem, 2 more gun mids in 2025.
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Can't remember which news service it was (Ch7 perhaps) said Lalor is starting in the rehab group as the
Cub wants to manage him after his injury issues in 2024
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Gibcus should be good to go surely. Did his ACL in round 1. I don’t think playing 12 months later is rushing him back.
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Agreed
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Lalor looks like such a tank already
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I wonder what he weighs… oh, that’s right. ::)
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I wonder what he weighs… oh, that’s right. ::)
Yup 👍
Can’t be going there
One day they will ban height as well
Offensive to dwarfs and anyone identifying as a hobbit worldwide
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It’s infuriating
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Went looking and found this before the woke censorship.
https://www.afl.com.au/news/1059777/eye-on-the-future-10-draft-prospects-to-watch-in-2024
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Went looking and found this before the woke censorship.
https://www.afl.com.au/news/1059777/eye-on-the-future-10-draft-prospects-to-watch-in-2024
Wow, now that's an eye opener! Lalor at 88 & Smillie at 92 have some real promise, but Jagga & FOS at 70 each makes it obvious why we passed on them.
Height & weight with power ... trusted weaponry ... :clapping
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Can Richmond Avoid the Wooden Spoon with this line up?
(https://i.ytimg.com/vi/GvQzkjJteso/maxresdefault.jpg) (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GvQzkjJteso)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GvQzkjJteso
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Went looking and found this before the woke censorship.
https://www.afl.com.au/news/1059777/eye-on-the-future-10-draft-prospects-to-watch-in-2024
Wow, now that's an eye opener! Lalor at 88 & Smillie at 92 have some real promise, but Jagga & FOS at 70 each makes it obvious why we passed on them.
Height & weight with power ... trusted weaponry ... :clapping
Great draft weights.
Ready to go.
I'm excited.
And stuff the wokeness. It's because of the AFLW IMO.
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Went looking and found this before the woke censorship.
https://www.afl.com.au/news/1059777/eye-on-the-future-10-draft-prospects-to-watch-in-2024
Wow, now that's an eye opener! Lalor at 88 & Smillie at 92 have some real promise, but Jagga & FOS at 70 each makes it obvious why we passed on them.
Height & weight with power ... trusted weaponry ... :clapping
Great draft weights.
Ready to go.
I'm excited.
And stuff the wokeness. It's because of the AFLW IMO.
LMAO. Of course it’s because of the AFLW.
Couple of extremely unfit players were far shamed and this is the result.
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Went looking and found this before the woke censorship.
https://www.afl.com.au/news/1059777/eye-on-the-future-10-draft-prospects-to-watch-in-2024
Wow, now that's an eye opener! Lalor at 88 & Smillie at 92 have some real promise, but Jagga & FOS at 70 each makes it obvious why we passed on them.
Height & weight with power ... trusted weaponry ... :clapping
Great draft weights.
Ready to go.
I'm excited.
And stuff the wokeness. It's because of the AFLW IMO.
LMAO. Of course it’s because of the AFLW.
Couple of extremely unfit players were far shamed and this is the result.
I am not going to get into this debate again
I don't agree with the decison that weights are no longer published for either comps
But I understand why ... if only the term "unfit" was used rather than some of the other derogatory terms then perhaps it wouldn't have become an issue.
I'll leave it there
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Except some of them weren't just merely unfit they were objectively & grossly overweight. :shh
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https://withinhealth.com/learn/articles/fat-is-not-a-bad-word
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Every AFL team’s best 23 for 2025: Richmond Tigers
How many draftees walk in to Richmond’s best 23?
Callum Farquhar
zerohanger.com
January 16, 2025
The Tigers are uniquely positioned after a mass exodus of premiership stars in the free agency and trade period last year, followed by a strategic plan to land as much first-round draft talent as possible, making seven selections in the first 28 picks.
These selections include Pick 1 Sam Lalor and Pick 8 Josh Smillie, who was tipped to be selected first overall in the early stages of last year.
Richmond are short-priced favourites to claim the wooden spoon in 2025, with a year of blooding their youth expected. It leaves a curious dilemma for Adam Yze to tackle, as Richmond will be aiming to find a balance between utilising veteran leadership and providing invaluable matches early in the careers of their promising youngsters to ensure they are at least somewhat competitive.
Across all three lines of the field, we've assessed Richmond's best options for 2025, creating a 23-man side that best balances experience and youth.
Our Best 23 for 2025 series will include players unavailable for the start of the season, except for those expected to miss most or all of the season through injury or suspension.
1. Defenders
From a veteran standpoint, Nick Vlaustin will undoubtedly command his position in the backline again in 2025, especially after a near-career-best season at 30 years old.
28-year-old Jayden Short will likely link up with Vlaustin in defence, as will Nathan Broad to close out the experienced leaders in the backline.
Should Josh Gibcus make a healthy return he may be in the running for a walk-up selection due to his sky-high potential seen in his debut season, while Sam Banks could slot in to fill the void of Liam Baker and Daniel Rioli. Following his suspension, Noah Balta could join the mix, with the longly-contracted star best suited to continue his role in defence rather than head the forward line.
Tom Brown had a breakout season in 2024 with his elite foot skills brought to light. Ben Miller, James Trezise and Tylar Young present as depth options at this stage, while draftee Luke Trainor could contend for an inclusion following some VFL development.
2. Midfielders
Following the draft, Richmond has an abundance of youthful talent knocking on the door of a spot in the midfield. However, Tim Taranto and Jacob Hopper are likely to hold their spots come Round 1.
Dion Prestia is another veteran set to resume his role in the midfield, with the youth taking spots on the wings. Hugo Ralphsmith, Seth Campbell, and Jack Ross should be the leading challengers for the outside running position, as Kamdyn McIntosh reaches the twilight stages of his career.
Kane McCaullife is another youngster set to make his case for a midfield spot, as will draftees Lalor and Smillie. Taj Hotton will bide his time recovering from an ACL injury for the majority of the season before earning a spot in the team.
Toby Nankervis is set to own the ruck role again, with Samson Ryan the likely second option.
3. Forwards
In the forward line, a healthy Tom Lynch will be the key target, with hopes he can finally stay consistently on the park in 2025. Likewise, Mykelti Lefau should be an immediate inclusion following his ACL recovery as he was a shining light in a dark 2024 season for Richmond, kicking 14 goals in 10 games.
Maurice Rioli takes a spot as an agile small, likely to be joined by the likes of Ryhan Mansell, Jacob Bauer, Steely Green and Seth Campbell.
Lalor could be eased into AFL level by playing as a physical half-forward in a similar role that Dustin Martin played in the latter stages of his career. Harry Armstrong and Jonty Faull are other draftees that could warrant an early season debut, while Jasper Alger is more likely to develop in the VFL.
4. Best 23
B: Nick Vlastuin, Josh Gibcus, Nathan Broad
HB: Jayden Short, Noah Balta, Tom Brown
C: Hugo Ralphsmith, Dion Prestia, Jack Ross
HF: Sam Lalor, Mykelti Lefau, Rhyan Mansell
F: Maurice Rioli, Tom Lynch, Seth Campbell
R: Toby Nankervis, Tim Taranto, Jacob Hopper
I/C: Josh Smillie, Steely Green, Kane McAuliffe, Jacob Bauer
SUB: Sam Banks
Others to consider: Samson Ryan, Jacob Koschitzke, Taj Hotton, Harry Armstrong, Jonty Faull, Luke Trainor, Tylar Young
https://www.zerohanger.com/every-afl-teams-best-23-for-2025-richmond-tigers-157822/4/
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I hate that people keep putting Gibbo in our best 23 at fullback straight away.
1) He hasn't proven that he is a consistent AFL standard full back as yet. Played only a handful of games and some up forward.
2) He is coming back from two long term injuries...
3) Disrespectful to Miller, Blight and Balta to suggest his is our lock for fullback.
We need to release the pressure on this kid. Let him ease back slowly through the VFL to see if he can still compete at the level.
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It's ridiculous that he is considered best 23. He may not be up to it anymore. The kid does not need the extra stress from this either. The last thing we need is for him to take risks and get injured trying to live up to these expectations. Any expectations for Gibbo should be hopeful he can return at best.
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Richmond Tigers best 22 for 2025: Predicted team for next AFL season
Kieran Francis
Sporting News
10 February, 2025
Richmond won the wooden spoon in 2024 and it looks like more of the same with their developing list this season.
The Tigers have added a stack of first-round draft picks, but have lost the likes of Dustin Martin, Daniel Rioli and Liam Baker.
Can Adem Yze's side buck the prediction of finishing bottom once again?
The Sporting News analyses the best 22 for the Tigers in 2025.
Richmond Tigers best 22 for 2025 AFL season
FB Nathan Broad Noah Balta Tom Brown
HB Jayden Short Josh Gibcus Nick Vlastuin
C Hugo Ralphsmith Jacob Hopper Jack Ross
HF Sam Lalor Tom Lynch Seth Campbell
FF Maurice Rioli Jr. Jacob Bauer Rhyan Mansell
R Toby Nankervis Tim Taranto Dion Prestia
INT Sam Banks Josh Smillie Kamdyn McIntosh Samson Ryan
SUB Tyler Sonsie
Analysis
With Noah Balta suspended and Josh Gibcus likely injured, there will be early opportunities for the likes of Ben Miller and Jacob Koschitzke in defence.
Tylar Young will also likely come back into the defence during the season once he recovers from an ACL injury.
The first choice midfield looks solid with Tim Taranto, Dion Prestia and Jacob Hopper all highly capable at the feet of Toby Nankervis.
Tom Lynch will be hoping for an injury-free campaign, while Jacob Bauer could get a crack at a forward position while Mykelti Lefau is out with a long-term knee issue.
Sam Lalor and Josh Smillie will be pushing for selection in Round 1, but the likes of Luke Trainor, Jonty Faull and Harry Armstrong are unknown quantities.
Notable players to miss out
Ben Miller, Jacob Koschitzke, Judson Clarke, Thomson Dow, Kane McAuliffe, James Trezise, Mykelti Lefau, Tylar Young
https://www.sportingnews.com/au/afl/news/richmond-tigers-best-22-2025-predicted-team-next-afl-season/e0ecb3db589eb8e07ecb4019