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Brownlow Predictor
16 Tim Taranto
5 Nick Vlastuin
4 Jacob Hopper
Predicted team votes: 30
https://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/1900838/tigers-2025-brownlow-medal-guide
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Round 1 vs Carl
3. Taranto
2. Nank
1. Floss
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Round 2 vs Port ..... Zip.
Round 3 vs StK .... Zip.
Round 4 vs Bris
1. Taranto
Tigers Tally
Taranto 4
Nankervis 2
Vlastuin 1
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Round 5 vs Freo ..... Zip.
Round 6 vs Gold Coast (Won by 11)
3. Floss
2. Taranto
Tigers Tally
Taranto 6
Vlastuin 4
Nankervis 2
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Would be sensational if Rowell upset Daicos and Smith
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Goal and mark of the year sure ain’t what they used to be lol
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Round 7 vs Melb ..... Zip.
Round 8 vs Haw ..... Zip.
Round 9 vs West Coast (Won by 2)
3. Taranto
2. Banks
1. Hopper
Tigers Tally
Taranto 9
Vlastuin 4
Banks 2
Nankervis 2
Hopper 1
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Murphy Reid won the Rising Star award.
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Round 10 vs Norf
3. Taranto
Tigers Tally
Taranto 12 ......... now up to equal 6th in the count.
Vlastuin 4
Banks 2
Nankervis 2
Hopper 1
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Be great if Rowell won this and Flopcos loses
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Murphy Reid won the Rising Star award.
Could have been our riding star!
If we kept Bolton :shh
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Round 11 vs Ess ........ Zip.
Round 12 vs GWS
2. Taranto
1. Hopper
Tigers Tally
Taranto 14 ......... now up to equal 5th in the count.
Vlastuin 4
Banks 2
Hopper 2
Nankervis 2
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We won't get any more votes until Round 18.
Round 13 vs Sydney ..... Zip
Round 14 .... Bye
Round 15 vs Dogs ..... Zip
Round 16 vs Adel .... Zip
Round 17 vs Geel .... Zip
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What would we do without TT
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Be great if Rowell won this and Flopcos loses
I'm amazed the umps are voting for Rowell given his attitude to running into umps. If I was an ump I'd downgrade any vote he got by one.
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Why does Zorko ever get votes, he's the worst type of thug on a footy field.
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Round 18 vs Ess (Won "worst match of the year" by 9 pts)
3. Taranto
Tigers Tally
Taranto 17
Vlastuin 4
Banks 2
Hopper 2
Nankervis 2
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Well Tim has beaten the predictor. Maybe they shouldn't have voted for that game though it was terrible beyond compare.
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Rowell has it for sure now
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Round 19 vs West Coast ..... (Won by 49 pts)
3. Taranto
2. Hopper
Tigers Tally
Taranto 20 ....... up to 5th in the count.
Hopper 5
Vlastuin 4
Banks 2
Nankervis 2
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Lol Tim.in for a late run down the outside with 4 best on grounds in the last 4 matches which we didn't win to win the Brownlow by a vote.....not.
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Round 20 vs Coll
1. Hopper
Tigers Tally
Taranto 20
Hopper 6
Vlastuin 4
Banks 2
Nankervis 2
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From the age commentary
Wanganeen-Milera has missed out on the three votes against Melbourne! Extraordinary.
What game do the UMPs watch?
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From the age commentary
Wanganeen-Milera has missed out on the three votes against Melbourne! Extraordinary.
What game do the UMPs watch?
Made worse by the fact that Jack Viney got the 3 votes
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Jack Viney oh boy
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There is something weird with the Brownlow these days. Many guys are getting 30+ votes which was an absolute rarity in the past. Something is wrong with he system.
What did dipper win it with, 18 votes? I'd need to check.
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Round 21 vs Gold Coast .... Zip
Round 22 vs St Kilda ..... Zip ..... Ummm we only lost by 4 pts and lead for a large part of the second half.
Round 23 vs Norf .... Zip.
Round 24 vs Geel .... Zip.
Final Tigers Tally
Taranto 20
Hopper 6
Vlastuin 4
Banks 2
Nankervis 2
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There is something weird with the Brownlow these days. Many guys are getting 30+ votes which was an absolute rarity in the past. Something is wrong with he system.
What did dipper win it with, 18 votes? I'd need to check.
Midfielders award.
No way would a Lockett, Wynd, Stynes, Quinlan, Round, Templeton, Peter Moore or Dempsey win it now days.
https://afltables.com/afl/brownlow/brownlow_idx.html
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Matt Rowell is the winner :clapping.
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There is something weird with the Brownlow these days. Many guys are getting 30+ votes which was an absolute rarity in the past. Something is wrong with he system.
What did dipper win it with, 18 votes? I'd need to check.
I miss the days where the winner won with high teens or low 20s votes so we still had 3-5 players in the running in the last couple rounds.
30+ votes should be left for truly dominate seasons i.e. Dusty 2017. Rowell had a great year but almost cracking 40 is crazy and don’t get me started on Cripps last year.
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Matt Rowell is the winner :clapping.
Shout out to the guy that called him a tractor a couple weeks ago.
With 39 votes, Matt Rowell is the 2025 Brownlow Medallist
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Pies supporters right now ;D
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So next year tag Rowell and no suns.
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Honestly if you had a player to pick would you pick Rowell over daicos?
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So next year tag Rowell and no suns.
Anderson and Miller go alright
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To rejig my Jeremy Cameron remark he got 20 votes slightly less than half the winner and he came as close to 100 goals as we have seen in a decade.
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Honestly if you had a player to pick would you pick Rowell over daicos?
No id take bont.
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Honestly if you had a player to pick would you pick Rowell over daicos?
Youd pick diacos but winning the ball is important too
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Honestly if you had a player to pick would you pick Rowell over daicos?
No id take bont.
No you wouldn't cause he is 30 years old
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There is something weird with the Brownlow these days. Many guys are getting 30+ votes which was an absolute rarity in the past. Something is wrong with he system.
What did dipper win it with, 18 votes? I'd need to check.
I miss the days where the winner won with high teens or low 20s votes so we still had 3-5 players in the running in the last couple rounds.
30+ votes should be left for truly dominate seasons i.e. Dusty 2017. Rowell had a great year but almost cracking 40 is crazy and don’t get me started on Cripps last year.
:lol
And don't forget Curnows Coleman when he kicked 19 goals on WCE lol
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Honestly if you had a player to pick would you pick Rowell over daicos?
Youd pick diacos but winning the ball is important too
Nope I'd take Rowell in a heartbeat.
I think J Daicos is underrated in his brother's shadow also tbh
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Honestly if you had a player to pick would you pick Rowell over daicos?
No id take bont.
No you wouldn't cause he is 30 years old
lol what does this hypothetical question have to do with age. Assuming the point the question was trying to make was that naicos is a better player but the award doesn’t always go to the best player in the comp.
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Another collingwood choke. :lol
We forget a bit about Rowell because he is from the GC.
Either would have been fitting.
TT what a great year but 8th best player in not sure.
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Honestly if you had a player to pick would you pick Rowell over daicos?
No id take bont.
No you wouldn't cause he is 30 years old
lol what does this hypothetical question have to do with age. Assuming the point the question was trying to make was that naicos is a better player but the award doesn’t always go to the best player in the comp.
If Richmond could magically take a player - you'd take someone under 24 to fit the rebuild.
Diacos. Rowell. Reid. NWM.
If the question is who's the best player then yes bont is in the conversation.
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Speaks volumes about how good Tim Taranto is.
20 votes in an average side is a brilliant effort
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Honestly if you had a player to pick would you pick Rowell over daicos?
No id take bont.
No you wouldn't cause he is 30 years old
lol what does this hypothetical question have to do with age. Assuming the point the question was trying to make was that naicos is a better player but the award doesn’t always go to the best player in the comp.
In regards to diacos v Rowell while diacos is better overall Rowell is ranked higher in the ratings. Top3 for clearance and contested possessions in afl
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Goal and mark of the year sure ain’t what they used to be lol
Especially when they overlooked Timmy's goal.
https://x.com/AFL/status/1927938197952287001
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The goal of the year was pretty ordinary IMHO I've seen better also ran goal of the years.
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Honestly if you had a player to pick would you pick Rowell over daicos?
No id take bont.
No you wouldn't cause he is 30 years old
lol what does this hypothetical question have to do with age. Assuming the point the question was trying to make was that naicos is a better player but the award doesn’t always go to the best player in the comp.
In regards to diacos v Rowell while diacos is better overall Rowell is ranked higher in the ratings. Top3 for clearance and contested possessions in afl
Carlscum are a top contested possession team but where did they finish. The concussion rules mean contested is far less important than it was. I suspect once the AFL get sued we may be forced to go Gaelic and ban the tackle of a sort.
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Honestly if you had a player to pick would you pick Rowell over daicos?
No id take bont.
No you wouldn't cause he is 30 years old
lol what does this hypothetical question have to do with age. Assuming the point the question was trying to make was that naicos is a better player but the award doesn’t always go to the best player in the comp.
In regards to diacos v Rowell while diacos is better overall Rowell is ranked higher in the ratings. Top3 for clearance and contested possessions in afl
Carlscum are a top contested possession team but where did they finish. The concussion rules mean contested is far less important than it was. I suspect once the AFL get sued we may be forced to go Gaelic and ban the tackle of a sort.
Geelong are first for hard ball gets. Brisbane for centre clearance.
Concussion rules or not it's still a pretty good start to get the ball like Rowell does
The tackle is already banned. Look at the chol 3 weeks.
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Honestly if you had a player to pick would you pick Rowell over daicos?
Noah Anderson is a star
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Honestly if you had a player to pick would you pick Rowell over daicos?
Yep every day of the week.
Without hesitation
I rate Rowell alot higher than Daicos
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If the award hadn’t lost all credibility after Cripps’ record breaker, then it has now.
Rowell is a great player, but games where he polled 3 votes without even being in the best 10
On the ground is ridiculous
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If the award hadn’t lost all credibility after Cripps’ record breaker, then it has now.
Rowell is a great player, but games where he polled 3 votes without even being in the best 10
On the ground is ridiculous
It's credibility had been shaky prior to that. That the only players that win now are midfielders says it all really
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If the award hadn’t lost all credibility after Cripps’ record breaker, then it has now.
Rowell is a great player, but games where he polled 3 votes without even being in the best 10
On the ground is ridiculous
It's credibility had been shaky prior to that. That the only players that win now are midfielders says it all really
Yep, the midfielder's medal is getting out of hand. The emphasis on centre clearance is fuelled by the media, it then trickles down to & influences the umpires too. Centre clearances make for fast play & fast scoring, which the AFL itself loves, so more influence is exerted on the umpires to favour the midfielders with votes. But really, when you think about it, the midfielders get a huge advantage from the 45mtr square around them that grants them a couple of seconds to get a disposal away! They are the only players on the ground who get that much time & space to operate in!
If we ever want to see another 100 goal season from a forward they only have to extend the goal square out to 45mtrs! Kick a ton & win a Brownlow from full forward - if only! :cheers
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It was a one-man show at the Tigers as Tim Taranto led the club's votes for the third straight year (he was equal with Shai Bolton at the top in 2024). The midfielder's return of 20 was a career-high and included five best-on-ground performances. The Tigers had just five players poll, with Taranto landing 20 of their 33 votes.
Nick Vlastuin polled his first votes since 2020 and Sam Banks the first of his career.
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Club-by-club votes tally
Geelong 99
Brisbane 98
Gold Coast 95
Adelaide 93
W.Bulldogs 90
Fremantle 88
Collingwood 83
GWS Giants 82
Hawthorn 80
Melbourne 65
Sydney 64
Carlton 60
Port Adel. 60
St Kilda 55
North Melb. 45
Essendon 40
Richmond 33
West Coast 12
https://www.afl.com.au/news/1427225/your-clubs-brownlow-medal-night-leader-top-five-total-votes
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If the award hadn’t lost all credibility after Cripps’ record breaker, then it has now.
Rowell is a great player, but games where he polled 3 votes without even being in the best 10
On the ground is ridiculous
It's credibility had been shaky prior to that. That the only players that win now are midfielders says it all really
Agree.
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The criticism of the umpires is well deserved and about time. I hope the decision making will be taken away from the umpires but doubt the AFL has the courage to do so.
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Just when you think they couldn't get any more woke...
https://www.news.com.au/sport/afl/nick-daicos-at-centre-of-potential-brownlow-medal-rule-change-after-pies-star-finished-runnerup-again/news-story/deed453c0e4fcf59242abaad2a0ca281
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The criticism of the umpires is well deserved and about time. I hope the decision making will be taken away from the umpires but doubt the AFL has the courage to do so.
There's always been conjecture about votes from certain games. It's been going on forever.
It's clearly become more of an issue since the TV coverage increased with every game now being shown
But what's the biggest change in the last couple of years when we've had the winners getting 40 odd votes?
The 4 umpire system. Not a doubt in my mind the impact it has had on the count.
You take the voting away from the umps who do you give it too? The media, a panel of past players?
It's easy, almost simplistic to say the umps shouldn't do the voting but it would be bloody hard to determine who should
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The criticism of the umpires is well deserved and about time. I hope the decision making will be taken away from the umpires but doubt the AFL has the courage to do so.
There's always been conjecture about votes from certain games. It's been going on forever.
It's clearly become more of an issue since the TV coverage increased with every game now being shown
But what's the biggest change in the last couple of years when we've had the winners getting 40 odd votes?
The 4 umpire system. Not a doubt in my mind the impact it has had on the count.
You take the voting away from the umps who do you give it too? The media, a panel of past players?
It's easy, almost simplistic to say the umps shouldn't do the voting but it would be bloody hard to determine who should
I agree. It's always been flawed but that's part of the fun of it. Greg Williams BOG with no votes for example. Which would have won it.
There is just more spotlight now with TV. Betting. Etc.
Part of it is the umps are not perfect and that's ok.
There is already the MVP. Coaches votes and whatnot no need to change the brownlow system imo
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The concept that an umpires can determine who is the best player on the ground when that umpire is meant to be adjudicating the game is fundamentally flawed. It is not a hard decision at all to choose an alternative. Precedents can be found from other sports. Any perceived difficulties in choosing an alternative should not be used as a barrier to long overdue change.
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I just laugh at people who bag the brownlow when all the awards are conflicted and compromised. Danger with 8 AA’s is actually laughable. Jez Cameron as captain is jaw dropping.
And these people have an ENTIRE YEAR to think about it.
Sorry but I’ll take a Rowell brownlow over this year’s mark and goal of the year as being better judged.
The brownlow is the least of our problems
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The concept that an umpires can determine who is the best player on the ground when that umpire is meant to be adjudicating the game is fundamentally flawed. It is not a hard decision at all to choose an alternative. Precedents can be found from other sports. Any perceived difficulties in choosing an alternative should not be used as a barrier to long overdue change.
The umpires have done it for 100 years. The award is who the umpires see as the better player.
People can't even agree if diacos or Rowell is the better player. Any system choosen will be flawed.
Dumb to change it
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The concept that an umpires can determine who is the best player on the ground when that umpire is meant to be adjudicating the game is fundamentally flawed. It is not a hard decision at all to choose an alternative. Precedents can be found from other sports. Any perceived difficulties in choosing an alternative should not be used as a barrier to long overdue change.
The umpires have done it for 100 years. The award is who the umpires see as the better player.
People can't even agree if diacos or Rowell is the better player. Any system choosen will be flawed.
Dumb to change it
So true ajG. It's always been the umpires award, why does it need to change. More media beat up because Dicky Naicos didn't win.
Even Daicos Snr has advocated not to change the system & certainly not to have"runner up" medals.
Leave it as it is.
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The concept that an umpires can determine who is the best player on the ground when that umpire is meant to be adjudicating the game is fundamentally flawed. It is not a hard decision at all to choose an alternative. Precedents can be found from other sports. Any perceived difficulties in choosing an alternative should not be used as a barrier to long overdue change.
The umpires have done it for 100 years. The award is who the umpires see as the better player.
People can't even agree if diacos or Rowell is the better player. Any system choosen will be flawed.
Dumb to change it
So true ajG. It's always been the umpires award, why does it need to change. More media beat up because Dicky Naicos didn't win.
Even Daicos Snr has advocated not to change the system & certainly not to have"runner up" medals.
Leave it as it is.
wasnt an issue when cooney won it, or even woewodin, judd's 3... ooh but its nicky daicos and dillon wants to start making changes.
if it were a richmond man would this even be a talking point? No.
He is probably a closet pies fan as well as the other closet fan.
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It is a flawed award. Bartlett, Mathews and Carey never awarded the medal when should have won it. To see players openly laughing at the voting is not a good look. As I said previously my view is it won't be changed . Regardless of how long it has been in existence does not mean it should escape criticism.
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It is a flawed award. Bartlett, Mathews and Carey never awarded the medal when should have won it. To see players openly laughing at the voting is not a good look. As I said previously my view is it won't be changed . Regardless of how long it has been in existence does not mean it should escape criticism.
Pele. Maradona. Maldini. West (NBA logo ) Malone etc. never won the equivalent awards. Cricket is often filled with controversy too.
Is it really worth changing it to a potentially slightly less flawed system?