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Football => Richmond Rant => Topic started by: one-eyed on November 23, 2025, 07:31:28 PM
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The Tigers have invited a handful of players overlooked in both drafts to train with them in coming weeks but will go with youth instead of considering any recycled options.
Kellaway will not be in that mix as the Tigers consider other options.
https://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/why-richmond-overlooked-fatherson-prospect-louis-kellaway-amid-speed-focus-in-draft-bonanza/news-story/c34094f79646e4e91727cd4523357d6b#selection-895.0-901.70
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It's impressive to bring in 19 year old Retschko via trade and another 18 year old SSP.
Ideal this early in a rebuild imo
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Does it mention in the article who the actual other names are?
Pretty bizarre regarding kellaway. Why did they nominate him as a potential father/son selection if he isn’t even worth a no commitment invite to train with us for a few months?
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Foxfooty confirming Western Jets captain Tom Burton training at Richmond.
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Foxfooty confirming Western Jets captain Tom Burton training at Richmond.
Twomey has tweeted it too.
Richmond has invited Western Jets prospect Thomas Burton to train with the club in the SSP window. Burton started today at Punt Road & was considered unlucky to miss being drafted last week after averaging 29 disposals for the Jets this year and playing with Vic Metro. @AFLcomau
https://x.com/CalTwomey/status/1992806847192223921
Credit to Dogga who had the scoop last week :clapping
I know that Tom Burton has been invited to train with us.
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A small running defender and midfielder, Burton was named in the Coates Talent League Team of the Year and took out the Jets best and fairest award after an impressive campaign.
He also averaged 15.5 disposals for Vic Metro at the Marsh U-18 National Championships and had 20 possessions for the Marsh AFL National Academy against Richmond back in April.
He also impressed as an under-age player last year, including a 26-disposal game for Team Heppell in the Marsh AFL National Futures game on the MCG on 2024 Grand Final day.
https://www.afl.com.au/news/1456225/young-western-jets-ball-winner-tom-burton-trains-with-tigers-after-missing-out-at-draft
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Richmond says Marcus Krasnadamskis is the other one.
Gosh, Batman, the nobility of the almost-human porpoise
Id be all over that. From memory people saying he is temu CDT leading up to draft
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Officially announced by the club, Burton and Krasnadamskis to train with the club over the SSP.
https://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/1934553/burton-and-krasnadamskis-to-train-on?fbclid=IwdGRleAORCxNleHRuA2FlbQIxMQBzcnRjBmFwcF9pZAo2NjI4NTY4Mzc5AAEefh5K7rz0mpe_uRI4DrHWxDz1m2i69kpmOg5d-BJDHvxweNSYVgPzJskm0Fs_aem_UOaBH0M8mfP07870lIH98g
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Richmond says Marcus Krasnadamskis is the other one.
Gosh, Batman, the nobility of the almost-human porpoise
Id be all over that. From memory people saying he is temu CDT leading up to draft
In the draft profiles the only 'weakness' listed is "IMPROVEMENTS:
- Rawness
- Strength".
Almost the ideal position for a young ruck in stage of rebuild.
Would also be solid to have young ruck developing with Sims.
List spots prob the most valuable thing in footy? When don't have wce. Gc type handouts.
Very important need to be looking for another grimes. Stack. Pickett. Baker. Etc.
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Anyone know what players other clubs have invited? Wonder if NHH got invited anywhere.
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Anyone know what players other clubs have invited? Wonder if NHH got invited anywhere.
Adelaide, Carlton, Richmond, GWS, West Coast, Fremantle, Port Adelaide, St Kilda and Hawthorn all have list spots they have taken over from the off-season, and could potentially look at bringing in some established talent.
Train-On Prospect AFL Club
Elijah Hollands Carlton
Will White Carlton
Jaxon Binns Essendon
Will Setterfield Essendon
Mason Cox Fremantle
Jayden Laverde GWS
Jaidyn Stephenson Port Adelaide
Tom Burton Richmond
Marcus Krasnadamskis Richmond
Finlay Macrae West Coast
Deven Robertson West Coast
Harry Schoenberg West Coast
https://www.zerohanger.com/ssp-state-of-play-the-afl-clubs-set-to-make-list-calls-and-the-train-on-prospects-in-the-mix-2-171160/
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Burton training with us today:
(https://content.api.news/v3/images/bin/f9d1ca08b29aa493053746324fd38ced?width=768)
https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/afl-2025-offseason-news-offseason-central-all-afl-list-changes-delisted-players-retirements-trades-draft-picks-and-draft-order-rookies-free-agents/news-story/89bf0b850773134660c2329288e73efe
Krasnadamskis at the Combine:
(https://resources.richmondfc.com.au/photo-resources/2025/11/24/055b6072-fb69-4247-b0ac-c0bc8857525a/Marcus-Krasnadamskis.png?width=2128&height=1200)
https://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/1934553/burton-and-krasnadamskis-to-train-on
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Krasnadamskis..
Get this guy a nickname asap
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Krasnadamskis..
Get this guy a nickname asap
Kras will do i rekn
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Apparently Krasnadamskis was still playing basketball for Australia and Victoria at a high level this season.
Didn't commit to football until July this year.
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Another basketballer who thinks they can hop codes and have a career at the highest level?
Why can't we just use a rookie spot on a mature ruck, maybe mid-20's, who has been playing Australian Rules for 5-10 years?
How often does the tall basketballer to AFL ruck work out? Dean Brogan is probably the only genuinely good example. Mason Cox in recent memory? Heck it took 5 years for Ivan Soldo to swap from bball to footy then build up to his best form in 2019, which by most assessments was serviceable without being amazing.
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Soldo won a flag. Blicavs was a freak. Josh Jenkins grand final. Cox won flag. Stefan Martin. Gawn goat. Goldstein very good, rejected USA unis for basketball.
CDT essentially went pick two in the draft and has young lance Franklin traits.
Hayes Brown is starting to play well in the 2s
Why do Richmond want a mature ruckman at this stage? Would be cooked by the time Cummings. Hotton. Armstrong etc. start to come good.
Another young ruck with Sims developing sounds ideal to me. Especially one some have said is the best ruck in the pool outside of CDT. They should be stacking as many kids u20 as they can at this stage on the list.
Kras played footy when he was a young kid so he should have some fundamentals
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I think we need a mature option with 5-8 years of footy left in him who can fill the gap for nank if required.
Sims too young, Ryan too soft.
As for the names above:
- most weren't established/career basketballers
- most started AFL young
- the ones that were basketballers took multiple years to develop for AFL and most were modest at best after that
For some reason people think winning a flag makes you a good player but despite contributing in 2019 and 2020 Soldo was serviceable most of that era.
Blicavs is a freak indeed. And a steeplechaser before AFL. He also took several years to reach those heights and I tip my hat to him.
Jenkins I thought was quite decent. Took him a few years to convert.
Cox was also serviceable at best most of the time as a late convert.
Martin a very good player, started at 19 and was an established player by 22-24yo. Probably the best example.
Gawn played AFL as a kid also, no basketball career.
Goldy also played footy as a kid, no basketball career.
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Goldy
. 2007 FIBA Under-19 World Championship squad , Australia.
Source - north Melbourne website. He withdrew due to the afl draft.
Yes most were 'serviceable. Do you expect a 26 year old c grade state league ruckman will do any better than that,?
Krasnadamskis played for Eastern Ranges and Vic Metro. Was competitive in his match up v CDT. It's not like he's never seen a football.
averaging 15.5 disposals per game for Vic Metro in the 2025 AFL National Under-18 Championships. Source Richmond website
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Goldy
. 2007 FIBA Under-19 World Championship squad , Australia.
Source - north Melbourne website. He withdrew due to the afl draft.
Correct, not exactly a career basketballer
Yes most were 'serviceable. Do you expect a 26 year old c grade state league ruckman will do any better than that,?
No, and that's what I'm wanting the club to do - find a *serviceable rookie ruckman* to support Nank while Sims develops and because Ryan is a dud
Krasnadamskis played for Eastern Ranges and Vic Metro. Was competitive in his match up v CDT. It's not like he's never seen a football.
averaging 15.5 disposals per game for Vic Metro in the 2025 AFL National Under-18 Championships. Source Richmond website
Thanks for clarifying. Sounds good tbh, but I still think we need a stop-gap. Had the right idea with Naismith, just too old, and picked the wrong person given how injury-prone he was. Need someone mid 20's who has aussie rules experience, tier 2 games under their belt, and a health/strong body
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Kras hasn't had much of a basketball career either genius.
He turned 18 few months ago
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1. Nank
Hopefully a couple seasons left.
2. Sims.
3. Hayes-Brown
Getting better. 63 hit-outs one vfl game, others 40+
4. Ryan.
Obviously limited but as fine the 4th ruck for one more year.
Fawcett. Lefau break glass emergency options. I don't see the point of another stop gap ruck ahead of a kid with upside.
All that said they prob take Burton.
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1. Nank
Hopefully a couple seasons left.
2. Sims.
3. Hayes-Brown
Getting better. 63 hit-outs one vfl game, others 40+
4. Ryan.
Obviously limited but as fine the 4th ruck for one more year.
Fawcett. Lefau break glass emergency options. I don't see the point of another stop gap ruck ahead of a kid with upside.
All that said they prob take Burton.
Nank established but ageing and gets quite beat up most years.
The idea that our #2 ruck is a teenager with 1 year under his belt and coming off surgery is concerning.
OHB untried at AFL level altogether.
Ryan with clear deficiencies and not looking promising at all.
Fawcett in the ruck?
Lefau also coming off another injury-riddled year.
I don't agree that we're set to go or that an 18yo undrafted kid is the answer for the medium term. We would definitely benefit from having a bloke aged 23-28 on the list with some proper ruck experience.
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Thomas Burton
height: 178cm
D.O.B: 09-01-2007
Position: Midfielder/Defender
Leagues: AFL U18 Championships, Coates Talent League Boys
SNAPSHOT:
“A versatile mover and a consummate professional known for his playmaking ability that causes headaches for the opposition.” – Adrian Dixon
The Western Jets captain of 2025, Tom Burton is a natural leader who continually sets up plays with his run and carry, whether it be in the midfield or across half-back.
Burton started his footballing journey in the then known Western Region Football League competition with Point Cook’s Under 9s team in 2015. As he moved up the age groups, he continued to be a standout, and in 2021 he started his rise to prominence with selection in the Under 14 interleague squad.
12 months later, he would be selected for the Under 15 competition, being named in the best for both games that season. Burton also would also represent the Victorian Under 15 side in the 2022 national carnival where he was named All-Australian. As a result, he would be awarded with a scholarship to Caulfield Grammar for his final years of schooling, that would see him play in the APS football competition.
Season 2023 saw Burton continue to progress – being named in the Western Jets Under 16s squad where he managed to make an appearance in two games in April of that year. He would then be called up to represent Vic Metro at the Under 16 Championships that year with his best game coming against South Australia.
September 2023 saw him make his Coates Talent League debut for the Jets in Wildcard Round, where he performed admirably against the reigning and eventual premiers, Sandringham Dragons. Weeks later, he was then called up to the Point Cook senior side to make his debut in a Grand Final of all games. Despite the game resulting in a loss, Burton fitted in seamlessly and felt as if he belonged out there, taking on the game with confidence and flair.
Season 2024 saw Burton spend most of his bottom-aged campaign playing with Caulfield Grammar while completing his Year 12 VCE studies. However, he also impressed in his limited appearances with the Jets, especially early in the season against the Calder Cannons in both a practice match and on Good Friday.
When he returned to the Jets team outside of school football commitments, his presence was noted, especially in the absence of his teammates who were on representative duty. While only managing seven games for the Jets, Burton was always consistent and would put in a solid performance representing Vic Metro, then Team Heppell in the 2024 Futures games.
With the stresses of school out of the way and putting more of his focus into football, season 2025 would see Burton appointed the Jets’ captain. But before that, along with earning selection in the AFL Academy and the Vic Metro summer hub, he completed a preseason training block with the Western Bulldogs, the club he supported growing up.
Despite being restricted by injury, Burton would overcome a poor Round 1 game by his standards to produce leadership and consistency for the Jets all season. As a result, he averaged 29.6 disposals, 5.3 marks and 5.6 tackles per game in 2025, taking out Western’s best and fairest award. While his averages were subdued playing for Vic Metro in the Under 18 Championships, he was awarded with captaincy for the game game against eventual title winners South Australia.
Burton models his game on 2016 Norm Smith Medallist Jason Johannisen and fellow Western Jets alumni Zak Butters, players who are both known for their abilities to take the game on with their speed and flair, especially in the two positions that Burton is best suited to.
STRENGTHS:
+ Dare
+ Leadership
+ Running power
+ Speed
+ Versatility
+ Work rate
IMPROVEMENTS:
- Decision making
- Kicking efficiency
- Size
Burton is a born leader. From a young age with his junior football, he always led from the front and set a standard for his teammates which saw him win numerous team and competition best and fairest awards. He quickly learned how important it is to be a good teammate and to lead by example, while also understanding that doing the extras makes a difference, especially tapping into the resources on offer to make him the best athlete possible.
On the field, he always uses his voice to continually support his teammates and reinforce areas that need to be improved upon in games. At the Jets, internally he was lauded for helping his teammates improve, not just in games either, but also getting them involved in watching vision and identifying how they can enhance what they do without the ball in their hands. As a result, he was also rewarded with the responsibility of captaining Vic Metro in one game at the championships.
Burton's versatility is another feature of his game that makes him an appealing prospect. Comfortable either across half-back or in the midfield, his ability to be the go-to man running out of defence highlights the trust that his teammates have in him to cause chaos for the opposition. Meanwhile, his efforts to show a strong inside and outside game have also been lauded in a ball-winning capacity.
Overall, Burton seems comfortable playing his role for the team, as highlighted in his efforts for the AFL Academy and the Vic Metro side at the National Championships. While undoubtedly he would have loved to have had more time in the midfield, due to the depth he was assigned to a role in defence, acting as a linking option on the rebound and playing that role well.
Burtons' speed, especially when it comes to closing in on opponents is also central to his game. While he provides excellent run on the overlap along with his gut running, his ability to work hard around the ground puts him in positions to rack up the footy. At the recent National Draft Combine, he managed a 2.915 20m sprint time to highlights his elite speed, which gets him out of trouble time and time again.
While Burton loves having the ball in his hands, his kicking and decision making are areas for improvement. While his split-second decisions can cause chaos for the opposition, Burton will have to improve on that when it comes to the next level especially against more experienced opponents. It will also help him become a more predictable teammate.
There are times where Burton puts his teammates under pressure with his disposal, which can result in turnovers or the play being broken up. Throughout the season, there were notable discrepancies between his kicking efficiency compared to his disposal by hand, so finding a balance between his daring creative nature and picking out options which suit the context of the game can help level that out.
AFL U18 Championships
Season Team K HB D M CP UP T HO CLR I50 R50 GL GM K H D M HO T G DC
2025 Vic Metro 31 31 62 16 16 46 9 0 4 6 9 0 4 7.8 7.8 15.5 4.0 0.0 2.3 0.0 59
Total - 31 31 62 16 16 46 9 0 4 6 9 0 4 7.8 7.8 15.5 4.0 0.0 2.3 0.0 59
Coates Talent League Boys
Season Team K HB D M CP UP T HO CLR I50 R50 GL GM K H D M HO T G DC
2024 Western Jets 89 77 166 27 0 0 39 0 0 17 18 0 7 12.7 11.0 23.7 3.9 0.0 5.6 0.0 79
2025 Western Jets 184 171 355 64 142 220 53 0 71 56 46 5 12 15.3 14.3 29.6 5.3 0.0 4.4 0.4 124
Total - 273 248 521 91 142 220 92 0 71 73 64 5 19 14.0 12.9 26.8 4.6 0.0 5.0 0.3 203
DRAFT RANGE: 35-50
SUMMARY:
Burton has the weapons to play AFL and would be best suited to a running half-back option, or even as a wingman before he looks to make a transition into the midfield as his career progresses. While he is expected to fall late in the second round, which could be pushed to an early-third round pick due to the bids on club-tied prospects, expect him to come under consideration for teams that could do with some speed.
https://central.rookieme.com/afl/player/thomas-burton/
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Marcus Krasnadamskis
height: 201cm
D.O.B: 18-06-2007
Position: Ruck
Club: Eastern Ranges
Leagues: Coates Talent League Boys
STRENGTHS:
+ Athleticism
+ Competitiveness
+ Dexterity
+ Upside
IMPROVEMENTS:
- Rawness
- Strength
Ahead of what looms as a real 'diamonds in the rough' sort of draft, Marcus Krasnadamskis has emerged as a rising ruck star. The 201cm basketball convert put a potential college career behind him to make the permanent switch to footy. He was initially cut by Eastern Ranges to start the year, but found his way back and ended up a premiership player after fully committing.
Upside is the word that springs to mind when discussing Krasnadamskis. With such little exposure to the footballing pathway, he has shown plenty to suggest he'll be among the crop's best rucks - should he continue to develop so rapidly. He's a terrific athlete and proved as much at the state draft combine with several top 10 finishes, including for his 2.887-second 20m sprint.
That kind of mobility lends to his dextrous work at ground level, with Krasnadamskis quite comfortable and skilful with ball in hand. He has a healthy level of competitiveness and loves to get stuck into contests, but can continue to build strength to play that way against senior opposition. Endurance is another element he will need to boost before hitting the big time.
Coates Talent League Boys
Season Team K HB D M CP UP T HO CLR I50 R50 GL GM K H D M HO T G DC
2024 Eastern Ranges 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
2025 Eastern Ranges 56 94 150 24 95 64 29 182 35 15 11 3 13 4.3 7.2 11.5 1.8 14.0 2.2 0.2 60
Total - 56 94 150 24 95 64 29 182 35 15 11 3 13 4.3 7.2 11.5 1.8 14.0 2.2 0.2 60
DRAFT RANGE: Late/Rookie
https://central.rookieme.com/afl/player/marcus-krasnadamskis/
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Not sure about a half back whose main weaknesses are kicking efficient and decision making. Sounds like someone you wouldn’t want distributing the ball out of the back half.
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1. Nank
Hopefully a couple seasons left.
2. Sims.
3. Hayes-Brown
Getting better. 63 hit-outs one vfl game, others 40+
4. Ryan.
Obviously limited but as fine the 4th ruck for one more year.
Fawcett. Lefau break glass emergency options. I don't see the point of another stop gap ruck ahead of a kid with upside.
All that said they prob take Burton.
Nank a few seasons so where is his replacement?
Sims is a key fwd who can pinch hit ruck, from the clubs mouth.
OH-B is quite literally still a rank long shot despite some improvement. yes about all he does is get hit outs.
Ryan is a dinosaur and already a bust imo. Low no agility cant mark not at afl level and still gets pushed around like a rag doll.
Atm there is 31 yo Nankervis and then day light.
We need both a junior genuine ruckman who has a footy background and we also need a mature back up for Nankervis.
It would allow us to pee off both Ryan and OH-B.
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1. Nank
Hopefully a couple seasons left.
2. Sims.
3. Hayes-Brown
Getting better. 63 hit-outs one vfl game, others 40+
4. Ryan.
Obviously limited but as fine the 4th ruck for one more year.
Fawcett. Lefau break glass emergency options. I don't see the point of another stop gap ruck ahead of a kid with upside.
All that said they prob take Burton.
Nank a few seasons so where is his replacement?
Sims is a key fwd who can pinch hit ruck, from the clubs mouth.
OH-B is quite literally still a rank long shot despite some improvement. yes about all he does is get hit outs.
Ryan is a dinosaur and already a bust imo. Low no agility cant mark not at afl level and still gets pushed around like a rag doll.
Atm there is 31 yo Nankervis and then day light.
We need both a junior genuine ruckman who has a footy background and we also need a mature back up for Nankervis.
It would allow us to pee off both Ryan and OH-B.
You can't have two rucks because there is one list spot left. The only other spot is catB which would have Andy continuing to cry about a basketball or rugby player again.
Obviously you can get new players including rucks in the future. What a mind bogglingly obvious point.
The point is now the player should be a 18/19 year old ruck to develop and add to the young stocks.
There is the opportunity to try to add Kras and hope he develops into a O'Brien/xerri/Reeves/English/Briggs/marshall etc. type homegrown.
It doesn't matter what the horse says. Sims was clearly the #2 ruck as shown by the stats.
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1. Nank
Hopefully a couple seasons left.
2. Sims.
3. Hayes-Brown
Getting better. 63 hit-outs one vfl game, others 40+
4. Ryan.
Obviously limited but as fine the 4th ruck for one more year.
Fawcett. Lefau break glass emergency options. I don't see the point of another stop gap ruck ahead of a kid with upside.
All that said they prob take Burton.
Nank established but ageing and gets quite beat up most years.
The idea that our #2 ruck is a teenager with 1 year under his belt and coming off surgery is concerning.
OHB untried at AFL level altogether.
Ryan with clear deficiencies and not looking promising at all.
Fawcett in the ruck?
Lefau also coming off another injury-riddled year.
I don't agree that we're set to go or that an 18yo undrafted kid is the answer for the medium term. We would definitely benefit from having a bloke aged 23-28 on the list with some proper ruck experience.
The bookmakers have Richmond finishing last.
What is the point of a 28 year old state league ruck currently?
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Which bookmaker you looking at? Eagles defo fav for the spoon ahead of us.
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Not sure about a half back whose main weaknesses are kicking efficient and decision making. Sounds like someone you wouldn’t want distributing the ball out of the back half.
Dylan Alexander is also saying Burton cannot kick the ball far
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I like the sound of developing ruck who is athletic , can mark , can pick the ball up below his knees and is a ruck first. We have a bit of a hole in our list in that area.
If this kid is a chance of making he is probably worth a go as you can pick up VFL ruck as a stop gap through a draft or trade without a problem.
I guess they will have a good look at him and assess if he is worth the punt.
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1. Nank
Hopefully a couple seasons left.
2. Sims.
3. Hayes-Brown
Getting better. 63 hit-outs one vfl game, others 40+
4. Ryan.
Obviously limited but as fine the 4th ruck for one more year.
Fawcett. Lefau break glass emergency options. I don't see the point of another stop gap ruck ahead of a kid with upside.
All that said they prob take Burton.
Nank established but ageing and gets quite beat up most years.
The idea that our #2 ruck is a teenager with 1 year under his belt and coming off surgery is concerning.
OHB untried at AFL level altogether.
Ryan with clear deficiencies and not looking promising at all.
Fawcett in the ruck?
Lefau also coming off another injury-riddled year.
I don't agree that we're set to go or that an 18yo undrafted kid is the answer for the medium term. We would definitely benefit from having a bloke aged 23-28 on the list with some proper ruck experience.
The bookmakers have Richmond finishing last.
What is the point of a 28 year old state league ruck currently?
The point is to remain competitive, try to win games, protect the kids (so Sims isn't #1 ruck if Nank goes down) and build a culture of success.
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1. Nank
Hopefully a couple seasons left.
2. Sims.
3. Hayes-Brown
Getting better. 63 hit-outs one vfl game, others 40+
4. Ryan.
Obviously limited but as fine the 4th ruck for one more year.
Fawcett. Lefau break glass emergency options. I don't see the point of another stop gap ruck ahead of a kid with upside.
All that said they prob take Burton.
Nank established but ageing and gets quite beat up most years.
The idea that our #2 ruck is a teenager with 1 year under his belt and coming off surgery is concerning.
OHB untried at AFL level altogether.
Ryan with clear deficiencies and not looking promising at all.
Fawcett in the ruck?
Lefau also coming off another injury-riddled year.
I don't agree that we're set to go or that an 18yo undrafted kid is the answer for the medium term. We would definitely benefit from having a bloke aged 23-28 on the list with some proper ruck experience.
The bookmakers have Richmond finishing last.
What is the point of a 28 year old state league ruck currently?
The point is to remain competitive, try to win games, protect the kids (so Sims isn't #1 ruck if Nank goes down) and build a culture of success.
And to accommodate this mature ruckman who would be potentially a slight upgrade on Ryan and OHB. You would overlook a promising 18 year old in a season where the entire football world has Richmond finishing bottom 2? With the position the playing list is currently in...
Well I worry about these organisations you are hiring hundreds of people for.
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Hayes-Brown looks a bit slow to me
Sammy Ryan nope.
I didn’t mind Sims for a first year hit out but we’re definitely looking a bit thin on the ground for rucks - particularly if Nank goes down
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1. Nank
Hopefully a couple seasons left.
2. Sims.
3. Hayes-Brown
Getting better. 63 hit-outs one vfl game, others 40+
4. Ryan.
Obviously limited but as fine the 4th ruck for one more year.
Fawcett. Lefau break glass emergency options. I don't see the point of another stop gap ruck ahead of a kid with upside.
All that said they prob take Burton.
Nank established but ageing and gets quite beat up most years.
The idea that our #2 ruck is a teenager with 1 year under his belt and coming off surgery is concerning.
OHB untried at AFL level altogether.
Ryan with clear deficiencies and not looking promising at all.
Fawcett in the ruck?
Lefau also coming off another injury-riddled year.
I don't agree that we're set to go or that an 18yo undrafted kid is the answer for the medium term. We would definitely benefit from having a bloke aged 23-28 on the list with some proper ruck experience.
The bookmakers have Richmond finishing last.
What is the point of a 28 year old state league ruck currently?
The point is to remain competitive, try to win games, protect the kids (so Sims isn't #1 ruck if Nank goes down) and build a culture of success.
And to accommodate this mature ruckman who would be potentially a slight upgrade on Ryan and OHB. You would overlook a promising 18 year old in a season where the entire football world has Richmond finishing bottom 2? With the position the playing list is currently in...
Well I worry about these organisations you are hiring hundreds of people for.
No need to be a wanker with the snide remarks tyvm.
We just don't agree.
You think highly enough of Ryan and OHB to be confident in our stocks, yet nobody else seems to. We don't need a gun, just someone mature to fill in for Nank if required, without fielding a pack of anaemic teenagers who will get snapped in half.
As for the kid...fmd he wasn't drafted, wasn't rookied... Must be real promising.
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1. Nank
Hopefully a couple seasons left.
2. Sims.
3. Hayes-Brown
Getting better. 63 hit-outs one vfl game, others 40+
4. Ryan.
Obviously limited but as fine the 4th ruck for one more year.
Fawcett. Lefau break glass emergency options. I don't see the point of another stop gap ruck ahead of a kid with upside.
All that said they prob take Burton.
Nank established but ageing and gets quite beat up most years.
The idea that our #2 ruck is a teenager with 1 year under his belt and coming off surgery is concerning.
OHB untried at AFL level altogether.
Ryan with clear deficiencies and not looking promising at all.
Fawcett in the ruck?
Lefau also coming off another injury-riddled year.
I don't agree that we're set to go or that an 18yo undrafted kid is the answer for the medium term. We would definitely benefit from having a bloke aged 23-28 on the list with some proper ruck experience.
The bookmakers have Richmond finishing last.
What is the point of a 28 year old state league ruck currently?
The point is to remain competitive, try to win games, protect the kids (so Sims isn't #1 ruck if Nank goes down) and build a culture of success.
And to accommodate this mature ruckman who would be potentially a slight upgrade on Ryan and OHB. You would overlook a promising 18 year old in a season where the entire football world has Richmond finishing bottom 2? With the position the playing list is currently in...
Well I worry about these organisations you are hiring hundreds of people for.
No need to be a wanker with the snide remarks tyvm.
We just don't agree.
You think highly enough of Ryan and OHB to be confident in our stocks, yet nobody else seems to. We don't need a gun, just someone mature to fill in for Nank if required, without fielding a pack of anaemic teenagers who will get snapped in half.
As for the kid...fmd he wasn't drafted, wasn't rookied... Must be real promising.
Well mr people and culture.
There are kids that are overlooked that are real promising. There are always picketts and stacks to be found. Grimes and bakers.
He is an 18 year old ruck prospect. Imagine having the audaciously to doubt his ceiling when you have never seen him play.
List spots are very valuable. We are starting essentially a rebuild everything is important now.
We may not agree but one of us is prob wrong.
The Richmond tigers football club may pick a scott or someone else but so far it seems they agree. As they are the only two players invited.
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Matt Priddis wasn’t drafted a few times
He seemed to go ok
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PROFILED | 2026 preseason SSP train-ons
Michael Alvaro
central.rookieme.com
2 Dec 2025
RICHMOND
Thomas Burton (Western Jets)
Defender/Midfielder | 178cm | 09/01/2007
Burton was among the players deemed unlucky not to find a home in the National Draft, but remains in the mix after an esteemed junior career. The Western Jets product ticks plenty of boxes, most notably in the way of production and running given he was one of the Talent League’s most consistent performers this year. While quieter for Vic Metro, his ability to daringly break the lines as a defender is complimented by high-volume repeat efforts in midfield. He has plenty to give standards-wise, too.
Marcus Krasnadamskis (Eastern Ranges)
Ruck | 201cm | 18/06/2007
An emerging ruck who perhaps wasn’t quite ready for a shot in the National Draft, Krasnadamskis garnered plenty of interest nonetheless. He has shown a strong rate of improvement since converting from basketball, boasting a strong leap and good pace off the mark for a player his size. What’s more, he’s a great competitor who likes to impact as frequently as possible. Krasnadamskis was part of Eastern Ranges’ premiership side this year along with the region’s four first round draftees.
https://central.rookieme.com/afl/2025/12/02/profiled-2026-preseason-ssp-train-ons/
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I think we need a mature option with 5-8 years of footy left in him who can fill the gap for nank if required.
Sims too young, Ryan too soft.
As for the names above:
- most weren't established/career basketballers
- most started AFL young
- the ones that were basketballers took multiple years to develop for AFL and most were modest at best after that
For some reason people think winning a flag makes you a good player but despite contributing in 2019 and 2020 Soldo was serviceable most of that era.
Blicavs is a freak indeed. And a steeplechaser before AFL. He also took several years to reach those heights and I tip my hat to him.
Jenkins I thought was quite decent. Took him a few years to convert.
Cox was also serviceable at best most of the time as a late convert.
Martin a very good player, started at 19 and was an established player by 22-24yo. Probably the best example.
Gawn played AFL as a kid also, no basketball career.
Goldy also played footy as a kid, no basketball career.
Agree on Soldo imo was ordinary most of the time we had him.
He went to P/A to get a regular game and was pushed out by another battler in Sweet.
Your correct it seems the vast majority of those who come from a pure basketball background fail. Its a rookie pick and a long shot as it is so why lengthen the odds we have a cat B list for that.
As far as list goes we currently need two more ruckmen on the list. That is if the concensus is
1/ OH-B is not ready and doesnt look likely to make it at this point in time.
2/ Ryan to this point still seriously lacks in key areas for a ruckman and also atm looks unlikely to make it.
If its a list management thing then we just cannot put all of our ruck eggs in this basket.
We have both for another year two in Ryans case. We need a mature back up atm for Nankervis and we need another actual junior ruck to develop. It doesn't have to be both this year.
I think because we actually have two mature ruckmen in the ressies in Ryan and OH-B we maybe need to get another kid in given where we are at with these two and Nankervis age. One more season of the same and its likely both will have to go.
Then there is next years draft there is supposedly a good crop of rucks in it. Do we wait until that draft to grab a young ruckman.
Personally i think another two or three mids and a couple of good running players for the wings h/b is the real need.
Harry Scott is a lovely size, decent pace and had a great season in the vfl for us. He is only 20 or 21 ? and looks very likely. Imo the ssp and psd msd should be where possible aimed at these youngish blokes with good exposure and performance against men.
Some absolute gems have come out of the state leagues and continues to do so.
The thing is yes we are in the early stages of rebuild but 100% of everything we do does not have to be aimed at 2030 or when ever it is we think we can challenge again. We should be targeting some mature players from here on in.
A small percentage can be aimed at helping our many kids develop with some more maturity around them. Lets not forget we have a reserves team and if we go heavily to the draft well for another two years as i think we need to then we are going to need some maturity coming in.
Remember by the time we start to challenge the likes of Taranto Hopper and Prestia will likely be gone Nankervis will be gone some maturity while we also continue to bring in youth is a phase we are fast approaching.
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Good post claw.
We have Nank
Flemington straight
Throw a towel over the rest, although Sims looks decent but I'd rather not have his murdered if Nank goes down.
Anyone wanting to bank on the likes of Ryan or OHB is kidding themselves it's a long shot indeed but fingers crossed.
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OHB can’t play anyway as a Cat B rookie and we don’t have the list spot to promote him. So our ruck stocks and genuinely Nank, Sims, Ryan.
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OHB can’t play anyway as a Cat B rookie and we don’t have the list spot to promote him. So our ruck stocks and genuinely Nank, Sims, Ryan.
Sorry i always seem to overlook that fact. But it makes for an even stronger case to find another ruckman preferably next year for me. there is a good crop of young ruckmen coming thru including a bloody good kid at my club The sharks but i think clubs are now pretty aware of him.
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Western Jets captain Tom Burton and Eastern Ranges tall utility Marcus Krasnadamskis will be back with Adem Yze’s squad when the Tigers return in January. Hawthorn offered Krasnadamskis the chance as a train-on, but the basketball convert chose to trial with the Tigers.
Players on SSP trials in 2026
Adelaide: Zac Foot, Tom McGuane
Carlton: Elijah Hollands, Will White
Fremantle: Zac Harding, Chris Scerri
Hawthorn: Flynn Perez, Ethan Stanley
Port Adelaide: Jaidyn Stephenson, Bayln O'Brien, Mitch Zadow, Blake Oudshoorn-Bennier
Richmond: Tom Burton, Marcus Krasnadamskis
St Kilda: Tex Wanganeen, Oskar Ainsworth
https://www.afl.com.au/news/1460807/son-of-pies-gun-ex-blues-duo-among-host-of-ssp-hopefuls-invited-back
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As of January 13 this year, 16 players are currently training across the competition in the hope they will be able to earn themselves a contract at the top level before the Supplemental Selection Period (SSP) deadline on February 20.
RICHMOND
TOM BURTON
The hardworking Western Jets product looks to be capable of providing plenty at the top level if given the chance, after being overlooked in his draft year. A versatile asset, Burton performed consistently for the Jets in the Talent League all of last season and was even highly-touted by his draft counterparts, including eventual Pick No.2 Zeke Uwland. The Gold Coast Suns Academy player told foxfooty.com.au: “I think Thomas Burton is pretty fast and dynamic off the half-back line. He’s quick, he’s rapid, he puts pace on the game, can use it by foot and makes good decisions.”
MARCUS KRASNADAMSKIS
Like fellow SSP train-on Tom Burton, the Eastern Ranges ruck was one of a handful considered unlucky to not be selected in last year’s draft, and was initially high up the draft board of the Western Bulldogs. While his ongoing path to the top level hasn’t been as smooth sailing as he and many had hoped, an opportunity at Punt Road is there for the taking — especially given the Tigers don’t currently have an established second ruck behind captain Toby Nankervis.
https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/afl-2026-all-16-supplemental-selection-period-players-training-at-afl-clubs-ssp-sign-on-jaidyn-stephenson-port-adelaide-elijah-hollands-and-will-white-at-carlton-analysis-latest-news/news-story/6db5c8a85e9f41cb0128cfcfc8fb1b2c
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Anyone have any inside goss on how those 2 are travelling?