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Title: Tigers vs Swans game thread
Post by: one-eyed on July 22, 2006, 03:31:11 PM
Any late changes post here  :shh
Title: Re: Tigers vs Swans game thread
Post by: Moi on July 22, 2006, 06:00:15 PM
Hope because the Swans got dudded by the umpires last week, they don't try and make up for it by favouring them this week.
I will be watching them umps like a hawk lol  :o
Title: Wallace on MMM
Post by: mightytiges on July 22, 2006, 06:19:11 PM
Wallace on MMM:

* CHF runs himself out of the play at the SCG as he's bypassed. Need to play him as a forward pocket. Apart from that we'll play no differently.

* They asked Terry about North copying our tactics against the Crows. He said once the score stretched they needed to play normally. Wallace said 95% of Tigers supporters would be estactic with our win over the Crows even if the neutral fans hated the game.

* If you believe you can match a side say tall for tall then take them on. Otherwise in your heart of hearts you think you'll get smashed then you need to come up with something different.

* Looks like there'll be a new premier this year. Adelaide at the moment. They play a running flowing style so clubs will come up will a style to counter that. The game evolves every year. The chipping sideways and backwards is different to the absolute flooding of a couple of years ago.
Title: Re: Tigers vs Swans game thread
Post by: mightytiges on July 22, 2006, 06:21:36 PM
Late change for the Swans: Heath Grundy (quick defender) in for Ben Mathews.

Some twit on MMM said Richo has been ordinary at the SCG in the past. He only kicked 7 straight last time  ::).
Title: Rodan in; Patto out
Post by: mightytiges on July 22, 2006, 06:49:56 PM
Officially:  Rodan in; Patto out.

Richo to start on the bench.

Well done Moionaisse  :clapping  :thumbsup
Title: Re: Tigers vs Swans game thread
Post by: Moi on July 22, 2006, 07:02:32 PM
It's all in the wrist action, MT lol
I read an SMS lol
Thanks Chutney  :thumbsup
Title: Re: Tigers vs Swans game thread
Post by: mightytiges on July 22, 2006, 07:04:50 PM
LOL

Rainsey just learnt not to bounce the footy on the damp surface when running out lol.
Title: Re: Tigers vs Swans game thread
Post by: Moi on July 22, 2006, 07:13:37 PM
We're in black shorts.
 :thumbsup to the AFL for allowing that.
Title: Re: Tigers vs Swans game thread
Post by: mightytiges on July 22, 2006, 07:15:55 PM
How did O'Keefe get 30m clear in their forward 50  ???
Title: Re: Tigers vs Swans game thread
Post by: Ox on July 22, 2006, 07:16:50 PM
2.19 In the morning here.
Go Toigs.

I cant find the stats or radio coverage on the puss ridden afl site - anyone?
Title: Re: Tigers vs Swans game thread
Post by: Moi on July 22, 2006, 07:19:26 PM
Swans 1.0
Tiges 0
Title: Re: Tigers vs Swans game thread
Post by: Moi on July 22, 2006, 07:21:12 PM
Schultz goal
Title: Re: Tigers vs Swans game thread
Post by: mightytiges on July 22, 2006, 07:22:01 PM
Try this Ox:

http://afl.com.au/livescores/live_scores2.asp?mi=10161605

Goal to Sarge  :gotigers

Rich 1.0-6
Syd  1.0-6

Richo on
Title: Re: Tigers vs Swans game thread
Post by: Moi on July 22, 2006, 07:23:23 PM
Ox, when you can't get coverage, you should hook up to someone with Skype and put the headphones next to the speaker.
A touch desperate, but footy is serious business lol
Title: Re: Tigers vs Swans game thread
Post by: mightytiges on July 22, 2006, 07:24:20 PM
O'Keefe free by himself again  ::). Gas had to kill that ball in our forward line.
Title: Re: Tigers vs Swans game thread
Post by: Moi on July 22, 2006, 07:27:37 PM
Down another backman after Kellaway got kicked in the head by Hall
Title: Re: Tigers vs Swans game thread
Post by: mightytiges on July 22, 2006, 07:27:53 PM
Kellaway off groggy.

We're trying to play too cute  :banghead.
Title: Re: Tigers vs Swans game thread
Post by: Moi on July 22, 2006, 07:32:39 PM
Good play by Simmo to take it out of the ruck and get it on the boot straight down the throat of Schultz for another goal  :thumbsup
Title: Re: Tigers vs Swans game thread
Post by: mightytiges on July 22, 2006, 07:33:04 PM
Another to Sarge. Good work from Simmo

Rich   2.0-12
Syd    2.3-15
Title: Re: Tigers vs Swans game thread
Post by: mightytiges on July 22, 2006, 07:34:48 PM
We're getting smashed in the centre bounce clearances. Rugby scrum for 10 secs then the ball gets loose and the Swans find one of their forwards.
Title: Re: Tigers vs Swans game thread
Post by: Moi on July 22, 2006, 07:39:35 PM
Patty wimped out of a marking contest before and not strong enough there - Swans goal  :banghead
Title: Re: Tigers vs Swans game thread
Post by: mightytiges on July 22, 2006, 07:41:09 PM
This is going to get ugly if we don't start winning some clean footy. A free kick would be nice too ::)

Rich  2.0-12
Syd  4.3-27

Title: Re: Tigers vs Swans game thread
Post by: mightytiges on July 22, 2006, 07:46:18 PM
Quarter time.

Wallace should be going ape at them for playing dumb wet weather footy. Swans are first to the footy and we're being very reactive. Sarge is looking like only winning forward but we might need in down in defence. Gas and Paddy are getting a bath at the minute. Not strong enough.
Title: Re: Tigers vs Swans game thread
Post by: mightytiges on July 22, 2006, 07:51:21 PM
Paddy is no key defender. Move him please Terry  :scream.

This is going to be another 100 point rout  :help.
Title: Re: Tigers vs Swans game thread
Post by: Moi on July 22, 2006, 07:55:47 PM
There's been a lot of push outs in marking contests the umpires have just totally ignored =- my predictions are accurate.
That's not why we're losing, but give us a break  :banghead

Bad miss by White :banghead
Title: Re: Tigers vs Swans game thread
Post by: mightytiges on July 22, 2006, 08:03:51 PM
If you want a lesson in how not to play on the SCG just get a video of how we're playing. Chip chip chip crap  :banghead.

Rich  2.4-16
Syd   7.5-47

Two misses in a row to Browny  :scream
Title: Re: Tigers vs Swans game thread
Post by: mightytiges on July 22, 2006, 08:10:59 PM
Browny finally finds the middle of the big sticks.

Rich  3.5-23
Syd  7.6-48
Title: Re: Tigers vs Swans game thread
Post by: Moi on July 22, 2006, 08:11:07 PM
A swans player dragged the ball in and because he was standing there was no free kick.  What's the difference between dragging it in when you're on the ground and that?  Nothing.
Title: Re: Tigers vs Swans game thread
Post by: mightytiges on July 22, 2006, 08:12:29 PM
Two kicking in dangers in a row and no free  >:(
Title: Re: Tigers vs Swans game thread
Post by: Moi on July 22, 2006, 08:12:53 PM
Anyone listening to that old woman Malcolm Blight?
Biggest waffling moron in footy  :wallywink
Title: Re: Tigers vs Swans game thread
Post by: mightytiges on July 22, 2006, 08:14:52 PM
Polo dummies around a Swand gets another  :gotigers

Rich  4.5-29
Syd  7.8-50
Title: Re: Tigers vs Swans game thread
Post by: mightytiges on July 22, 2006, 08:16:28 PM
Swan spun around 360 - no free
Buchanan throws the ball - no free
 
 ::)

Polo just misses
Title: Re: Tigers vs Swans game thread
Post by: mightytiges on July 22, 2006, 08:25:03 PM
Half-time

Well 20 points down is better than what it could have been  :-\. Amazing what happens when you start winning the footy and play direct down the guts on the SCG  ::).

Simmo, Schulz, Sugar and Chubba our most consistent. Richo is filling the hole in our defence. Moore did alright towards the end of that quarter. Meyer is presenting a leading target upfield. Browny, Petts, Polo, Lids and Hyde coming into the game.

Half the team with 4 possies or less. Too many passengers.
Title: Re: Tigers vs Swans game thread
Post by: mightytiges on July 22, 2006, 08:40:39 PM
Whitey was stiff. Right on the bounce the ump pings him for running too far. Swans goal.
Title: Re: Tigers vs Swans game thread
Post by: mightytiges on July 22, 2006, 08:48:26 PM
They're running all over us now  :(.
Title: Re: Tigers vs Swans game thread
Post by: mightytiges on July 22, 2006, 08:50:22 PM
Richo and Schulz can't both play deep. We need 1-on-1 down there. Wallace smartly takes Richo off.
Title: Re: Tigers vs Swans game thread
Post by: mightytiges on July 22, 2006, 09:10:10 PM
What a shocker! :help. Too many passengers (especially some seniors players) and dumb footy on a small ground. 

At least we kicked a goal  :-\. Let's hope we can fight this out and not get blown away by 10 goals plus.


Title: Re: Tigers vs Swans game thread
Post by: Moi on July 22, 2006, 09:15:56 PM
Ouch - poor Brett Kirk
Title: Re: Tigers vs Swans game thread
Post by: mightytiges on July 22, 2006, 09:20:36 PM
Ouch - poor Brett Kirk

Yep ouch!

Meyer goals for us.
Title: Re: Tigers vs Swans game thread
Post by: cub on July 22, 2006, 09:25:17 PM
Now that Kirk is OK may I say - What a pissa of a kick and fat lip.
Title: Re: Tigers vs Swans game thread
Post by: mightytiges on July 22, 2006, 09:27:01 PM
That's one swollen lip  :o.

Browny gets another back. At least we're playing the game out.

Title: Re: Tigers vs Swans game thread
Post by: mightytiges on July 22, 2006, 09:48:04 PM
We are one dumb football team  :banghead. You mark inside 50 and you pass it off and then after that poor decision you can't hit someone 15m away on the lead ::).

At least these game show how long we still have to go.

 

Title: Re: Tigers vs Swans game thread
Post by: Fwoy3 on July 22, 2006, 09:51:16 PM
Good lead-in to the Cocktail night...and with Saints next week :banghead
Title: Re: Tigers vs Swans game thread
Post by: PuntRdRoar on July 22, 2006, 10:00:06 PM
Here comes my early draft pick. We were diabolical tonight. Didnt play as a team, some nice individual efforts from Deledio, Polo, Meyer and Schulz...Johnson is the only player we got who understands what playing for the team means. basically we were crap tonight and the 48pt margin flattered us again. They are a 12 goal better side than us.
Title: Re: Tigers vs Swans game thread
Post by: Tigertailz on July 22, 2006, 10:03:08 PM
How frustrating was that game?

I waited 10 mins after the game to calm down.Im very very sober and very very angry.

Yes we have along way to go alright MT.Bloody long way.

I will get a positve out of it instead of going apedroppings at us

Rodan showed he wants tp play.Went in hard and gave 110%.

Gas gave BBBH a tough time.

Richo still not 100%.That effing sydney crowd gave it to him.Like to see anyone come back from the injuries he has endured and play at that level.

NOT HAPPY JAN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Title: Re: Tigers vs Swans game thread
Post by: PuntRdRoar on July 22, 2006, 10:09:48 PM
Going in hard is nice .... but do you reckon he can find the pill. Coz tonight Rodan couldnt get the footy and had no idea how to get it. I counted maybe 5 possessions and he seemed to spend a decent amount of time on the ground. Laying tackles that dont hold for mine dont count.
Title: Re: Tigers vs Swans game thread
Post by: Tigertailz on July 22, 2006, 10:46:56 PM
Sometimes its those one percenters like tackling skills that make a difference.I just thought his efforts tonight were of note.I didnt specifically look out for him but he caught my attention enough to notice that he was going for it and making an effort.
Title: Re: Tigers vs Swans game thread
Post by: PuntRdRoar on July 22, 2006, 10:49:45 PM
People like me look at very  high tackle counts, look at the games and the movement of the players and are not impressed with blokes who are 2nd to the footy 9 times out of 10.
Title: Re: Tigers vs Swans game thread
Post by: Tigertailz on July 22, 2006, 11:16:38 PM
People like me look at very  high tackle counts, look at the games and the movement of the players and are not impressed with blokes who are 2nd to the footy 9 times out of 10.
In that case RT you might have noticed he had a lot of mates out there tonight who were 2nd to the contest as well:
                              Kicks           Hbs          Tackles
Rodan                       5               5                8
Simmonds                 10              1                1
White                       9               2                3
Tambling                   5               1                5
Richo                        7               0                2
Tivendale                  5               3                6
Moore                      7                1                5
Meyer                      7                2                2
Brown                      9                2                3
Gaspar                     7                 3                2
Hyde                       7                 6                4
Tuck                       7                 5                4
Raines                     6                 4                1

My point is not whether he was first to the contest but that he was having a red hot go.If he gets dropped next week so be it but i doubt you could question his attack on the ball.
Title: Re: Tigers vs Swans game thread
Post by: PuntRdRoar on July 22, 2006, 11:18:43 PM
With all due respect...Simmonds, Tambling, Richo, Meyer, Brown, Hyde, Tuck and Raines...have acquired some leeway because of past contribution and future potential. Rodan has neither past performance to give him leeway and sadly hasnt shown enough to be around for the future.
Title: Re: Tigers vs Swans game thread
Post by: Tigertailz on July 22, 2006, 11:29:41 PM
With all due respect...Simmonds, Tambling, Richo, Meyer, Brown, Hyde, Tuck and Raines...have acquired some leeway because of past contribution and future potential. Rodan has neither past performance to give him leeway and sadly hasnt shown enough to be around for the future.
I couldnt agree more...but he did have a go tonight.He has 6 weeks left to save his skin then,RT.

Title: Re: Tigers vs Swans game thread
Post by: PuntRdRoar on July 22, 2006, 11:32:23 PM
I didnt say he didnt have a go. I dont think ive ever said a player doesnt try. I may question a player if I think he hears footsteps or takes some short steps...but ive never said a player hasnt given his best. My opinion on Rodan and about 17 or 18 other blokes on the list is that their best is well short of what we  need to be successful and they need to be moved on.
Title: Re: Tigers vs Swans game thread
Post by: mightytiges on July 22, 2006, 11:34:22 PM
Rodan        - played his last game IMO. I was told the last time he was dropped he wouldn't play for the RFC again.       
Simmonds  - did the ruckwork on his own. If I was critical of him tonight it was not now and then smashing the ball forward just to have the ball moving in our direction.           
White        - tried hard to play running footy but the clangers he made decison-making wise costed us goals.              
Tambling   - Shocker. Missing all night.                
Richo        - Shocker. He's not fit or at least match-fit even if his hand was right.               
Tivendale  - Shocker for the second week running. Trade.               
Moore       - Not the worst out there.                
Meyer       - Still played out of position IMO.              
Brown       - Missing for the first quarter and a half but did ok after that. Missed two shots you would normally expect him to nail in the 2nd quarter.              
Gaspar     - Hall ran him around up the ground but he kept with BBBBH and wasn't disgraced.                 
Hyde      -  Patchy.                 
Tuck       -  Disappeared in the second half. Two ordinary games in a row too.               
Raines     - Beaten as O'Loughlin got 3 goals but not disgraced given the ease the ball came into the Swans forward line.                

Add Paddy to. Like his brother he is no shutdown key defender.
Title: Re: Tigers vs Swans game thread
Post by: Fluffy Tiger on July 23, 2006, 07:20:09 AM
This game looked like Men V Boys.

I supose if you look at the team list thats exactly what it was. How many of our guys have less than 35 games ? Not sure exaclty but it would be close to half of tonights team.  We just thave to think 2-3 years down the track that

Sarge=Hall
Tambling= O'Loughlin
Polo=Kirk
Delido=Okeefe
Raines= Kennelly
etc
etc
(these are not exact but you get the drift)

We have the players (I hope) we just have to wait for them and get rid of the fringe in the meantime.

PS Richo anywhere but in the forward 50= turnover so TW please stop sending him elsewhere.
Title: Re: Tigers vs Swans game thread
Post by: letsgetiton! on July 23, 2006, 08:53:28 AM
Rodan        - proved me right, he is not up to it
Simmonds  - "did the ruckwork on his own. If I was critical of him tonight it was not now and then smashing the ball forward just to have the ball moving in our direction."  ....agree         
White        - "tried hard to play running footy but the clangers he made decison-making wise costed us goals."...just an avrerage player, just making up numbers cos of injury             
Tambling   - "Shocker. Missing all night".  the tight rugby conditions did not suit him             
Richo        - "Shocker. He's not fit or at least match-fit even if his hand was right."... agree but would have been nice to see him get a free here and there. LRT broke every rule in the book and got away with it
               
Tivendale  - "Shocker for the second week running. Trade."..... was outright pathetic, at least 6 weeks str8 now he has been very poor, not 2, worst player on the ground by a mile, delist  him , drop him asap and draft a young kid in his place
               
Moore       - "Not the worst out there." ,,can hold his head high, played well once moved on o'keefe   , i thought his skill and decision making and efforts were pretty good         

Meyer       - "Still played out of position IMO."  i agree but he looks very classy             
Brown       - Missing for the first quarter and a half but did ok after that. Missed two shots you would normally expect him to nail in the 2nd quarter.               
Gaspar     - "Hall ran him around up the ground but he kept with BBBBH and wasn't disgraced."
..hall did that  but i felt gas one that dual , esp the one on ones , well done gas!            
Hyde      -  Patchy.   ..has lost some spark             
Tuck       -  "Disappeared in the second half. Two ordinary games in a row too.  " has been poor most of the yr,   seems to escape the criticism radar, his skill and drive is far below last yr, trade him while his market value is high           
Raines     - "Beaten as O'Loughlin got 3 goals but not disgraced given the ease the ball came into the Swans forward line.  "  wouldnt say beaten, total mismatch in size, o'loughlin should have kicked 10 on him if he was any good!             
"Add Paddy to. Like his brother he is no shutdown key defender"...true but he should not play that role, jay should have played in defence, and richo in the square alone with 2 crummers
krak....tried his guts out, even had his head nearly taken off, showed MORE heart and passion than many of his teammates, was not rewarded 4 his efforts last night, some of his passes were gems, just to see the marks spilt.

sugar......was fantastic

polo.......was very good again, he has king size balls, maybe lids can learn from "marco"

chubba....played his worst game, but i dont think his head was right

the scg!!!...should be banned for all afl games, the ground is way too small and is suited only to sydneuy style rugby
Title: Re: Tigers vs Swans game thread
Post by: julzqld on July 23, 2006, 08:58:27 AM
I felt sorry for Richo (as I would) as he obviously wanted to get into the game.  Schultz seemed quiet in the second half - what happened to his nose?  I didn't think that Krakoeur did anything to deserve the accolades X gives him.  White was costly.  I thought it was Gaspar's foot that connected with Chubba's head.  Tuck's kicking Kirk's head was a strange one - hard enough to knock him out cold but no serious damage.  First quarter was terribly scrappy from both teams.  Raines was outmatched by O'Loughlin and Paddy was obviously missing his brother.  Why didn't Chubba go for the shot for goal in the last quarter?  Polo seemed to be one of the few players making any sort of impact.
Title: Re: Tigers vs Swans game thread
Post by: letsgetiton! on July 23, 2006, 08:59:47 AM
second smallest bloke on teh ground and under every pack!
Title: Re: Tigers vs Swans game thread
Post by: Bulluss on July 23, 2006, 01:55:14 PM
Krak is in my list of players who failed to deliver once again.

Players to trade or delist from last nights game:

Krak, Tiv, Tuck(not going to improve anymore, get rid of him while he has some value) & Rodan.

Players to get another year:

White: Only his first year of senior footy, if he is going to play AFL he needs to commit to the contest and get tougher. aka Foley.

Moore: 6 games to get another year. Did well last night on O'Keefe. Injuries have made it hard for him but he is versatile and could be handy.

Most of the rest are under no pressure IMO.
Title: Re: Tigers vs Swans game thread
Post by: Ox on July 23, 2006, 03:23:07 PM
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tried his guts out, even had his head nearly taken off, 

Nearly.

Seems he is always trying his guts out.... but not always delivering,

Why is this?

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showed MORE heart and passion than many of his teammates,

What u r saying here is there were far "worse" players.

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ome of his passes were gems.

Some.
Title: Re: Tigers vs Swans game thread
Post by: one-eyed on July 23, 2006, 03:47:50 PM
the scg!!!...should be banned for all afl games, the ground is way too small and is suited only to sydneuy style rugby

It tests which teams and players have footy brains. It's an old-school ground which you play old-school footy on especially when its wet. Keep the ball moving forward and 50m+ kicks straight up the guts to the hot spot with crumbers front and square; not this high possession chip sideways crap. The more you handle the ball in those conditions the more likely you'll turn it over which we did.   We just played into the hands of the Swans all night by allowing them to choke the game and flood our forward line with our slow movement of the footy. Once the ball was turned over they had a open paddock forward of the centre for all their forwards to lead into. 
Title: Re: Tigers vs Swans game thread
Post by: wayne on July 24, 2006, 10:05:02 PM
How frustrating was that game?

Tell me about it.

I was more furious at Sydney, arsey pricks, everything fell their way. O'Loughlin does bugger all for weeks then, true to Richmond form, we play him into some form, then has the audacity to start having a sook AFTER he has taken a mark 10 metres out right in front, TWICE!

Grundy, throw him into the same list of players as Aaron Edwards, Adrian McAdam and whoever else has been lucky enough to debut against Richmond and have a day out.

No wonder there is soccer violence though, watching sporting games which are so boring and so little highlights gets your blood boiling and makes you want to smack Sydney supporters!