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Title: Could Polak play Full Back
Post by: PuntRdRoar on July 28, 2006, 10:43:03 AM
Any of you reckon Polak could play full back. I reckon he could easily do CHB and even up forward. but hes a big lump of a guy, taken 4th overall in the superdraft, played at a comedy capers club for a long time, still young. At 23 or 24 I reckon we should look at it. We have no one to play on the huge forwards.
Title: Re: Could Polak play Full Back
Post by: WilliamPowell on July 28, 2006, 01:09:48 PM
Could he? Absolutely

Do I want him to at Richmond? Absolutely NOT

 :thumbsup
Title: Re: Could Polak play Full Back
Post by: PuntRdRoar on July 28, 2006, 01:54:35 PM
Why not, Polak is done and dusted at Freo, theyll be lucky to get a 3rd rounder for Polak now. Gaspars gone for mine.
Title: Re: Could Polak play Full Back
Post by: letsgetiton! on July 28, 2006, 04:36:13 PM
he would be gr8 4 us at tigerland,

gees,


some ppl just think everyone is not good enough to better our team, facts are facts , our team is still very very very poor, lots of room 4 improvement and still have many hacks and overrated players wearing our jumper

we welcome any player that is better than what we have!!

that means polak, aker,  etc etc, its not liek our list is full of untouchables, and character , who cares, when jay did something of bad character we didnt fry him!
Title: Re: Could Polak play Full Back
Post by: WilliamPowell on July 28, 2006, 04:47:11 PM
he would be gr8 4 us at tigerland,

gees,


some ppl just think everyone is not good enough to better our team, facts are facts , our team is still very very very poor, lots of room 4 improvement and still have many hacks and overrated players wearing our jumper

we welcome any player that is better than what we have!!

that means polak, aker,  etc etc, its not liek our list is full of untouchables, and character , who cares, when jay did something of bad character we didnt fry him!

Forgive me if 1/ I want to see us develop our own and 2/ don't want to take other teams problems. :thumbsup

Look I said this about Gardiner and the same goes for Polak if I had to chose between

Gardiner
Polak
Aker

I'd take Aker in a heartbeat

Your spot on X-  it's about taking blokes who are going to better our team and I don't think Polak fits that category. He is a known bad trainer, has a reputation of not applying himself - I doubt a bloke with that sort of attitude is gonna be good for us. Maybe Tezza can turn him around but you cannot tell me Freo will want high draft picks and I don't think we should under an circumstances (unless it's Judd ;)) trade away our first round picks

Title: Re: Could Polak play Full Back
Post by: PuntRdRoar on July 28, 2006, 04:56:56 PM
By the way whats this rumour that an out of contract star at another club will nominate us as his preferred destination come seasons end. Anyone know anything lol? And im not talking about one of the publically known players who people are talking about at the moment.
Title: Re: Could Polak play Full Back
Post by: cub on July 28, 2006, 05:01:57 PM
By the way whats this rumour that an out of contract star at another club will nominate us as his preferred destination come seasons end. Anyone know anything lol? And im not talking about one of the publically known players who people are talking about at the moment.

Is it a backman ? can any footy swats narrow this one down ? :thumbsup
Title: Re: Could Polak play Full Back
Post by: PuntRdRoar on July 28, 2006, 05:05:18 PM
Just know this is about. I dont know the player people are talking about. Considering the way the side is developed by the Plough and the importance he places on players ages and when there ready to hit there peak...which is about 25-27 from memory and considering he started the process with the likes of Deledio and co and theyre 19 where sort of looking 6 years away from now...that takes us to 2012 area for  apremiership tilt. It also means that if they have got someone who is gonna quit there club and nominate us then that player most like is around the 20-22 years of age mark and the fact that he wants to come to us if true even though we havent had any success means that that player is probably a Richmond supporter from a kid. So what were looking for is a 20-22 year old, with 2-3 seasons in the system who got drafted probably in the last 2  or 3 years.  So who got drafted 2 or 3 years ago thats coming out of contract and barracked for RFC as a kid. Other option is Wallace will try and pinch someone out of the bullies.
Title: Re: Could Polak play Full Back
Post by: letsgetiton! on July 28, 2006, 05:23:12 PM
so who does this alleged person play 4!!

did polak barrack 4 us tigers as a kid??? b4 he joined the teletubbies

just wondering , is hunter from the eagles out of contract???
Title: Re: Could Polak play Full Back
Post by: PuntRdRoar on July 28, 2006, 05:28:35 PM
Nah mate, just some rumours circulating that a player (who isnt being discussed at the moment) is wanting to join us. So its not Polak or Aker or anyone whose in the public eye at the moment. Of course it could be more bulldust but anyway.
Title: Re: Could Polak play Full Back
Post by: mightytiges on July 28, 2006, 05:30:23 PM
Forgive me if 1/ I want to see us develop our own and 2/ don't want to take other teams problems. :thumbsup

The latter in Polak's case ;).
Title: Re: Could Polak play Full Back
Post by: mightytiges on July 28, 2006, 05:32:30 PM
Nah mate, just some rumours circulating that a player (who isnt being discussed at the moment) is wanting to join us. So its not Polak or Aker or anyone whose in the public eye at the moment. Of course it could be more bulldust but anyway.

A doggy?
Title: Re: Could Polak play Full Back
Post by: PuntRdRoar on July 28, 2006, 05:34:36 PM
dont know anything, just a rumour around the traps thats all. I dont know anything, if i did i wouldnt be asking lol.
Title: Re: Could Polak play Full Back
Post by: mightytiges on July 28, 2006, 05:36:59 PM
dont know anything, just a rumour around the traps thats all. I dont know anything, if i did i wouldnt be asking lol.

Fev's changed his mind lol.
Title: Re: Could Polak play Full Back
Post by: letsgetiton! on July 28, 2006, 05:51:29 PM
im not convinced polak would be any goiod


i want HUNTER!!!
Title: Re: Could Polak play Full Back
Post by: mightytiges on July 28, 2006, 05:59:45 PM
There was a rumour earlier in the season that a youngster from another club may cross over but there's been no mention of it since.

im not convinced polak would be any goiod


i want HUNTER!!!

We'd all like Hunter as he can play CHB and push forward. He is vital to the Eagles so no way he'll be going anywhere unlike Polak who is stuck in the WAFL because he can't get a game with Freo.
Title: Re: Could Polak play Full Back
Post by: PuntRdRoar on July 28, 2006, 07:36:48 PM
the youngster rumour has been around for months, but i am unsure if the new rumours are about this player or another one. Suffice to say the innitial rumour- the info was passed on to the authorities at Punt Rd lol and Id be mightily peeed off if its the same player because I was hoping we could do a nice deal in private lol...
Title: Re: Could Polak play Full Back
Post by: mightytiges on July 28, 2006, 09:43:23 PM
the youngster rumour has been around for months, but i am unsure if the new rumours are about this player or another one. Suffice to say the innitial rumour- the info was passed on to the authorities at Punt Rd lol and Id be mightily peeed off if its the same player because I was hoping we could do a nice deal in private lol...

The authorities lol already knew.
Title: Re: Could Polak play Full Back
Post by: bluey_21 on July 29, 2006, 06:35:29 PM
Why not, Polak is done and dusted at Freo, theyll be lucky to get a 3rd rounder for Polak now. Gaspars gone for mine.

As long as we don't give up a 1st or 2nd rounder I'll trade for Polak. A change of scenery would be perfect for him
Title: Re: Could Polak play Full Back
Post by: Bulluss on July 29, 2006, 06:49:07 PM
Well he couldnt do any worse than what we had today.

Gaspar and our 4th rd

for Polak and their 4th rd.  :thumbsup
Title: Re: Could Polak play Full Back
Post by: julzqld on July 30, 2006, 10:06:50 AM
Do you reckon Gaspar is worth anything?  I would have thought he was on his last year.  Who'd want a 30+ injury prone backman?
Title: Re: Could Polak play Full Back
Post by: letsgetiton! on July 30, 2006, 10:39:17 AM
By the way whats this rumour that an out of contract star at another club will nominate us as his preferred destination come seasons end. Anyone know anything lol? And im not talking about one of the publically known players who people are talking about at the moment.

i know he is not a star but uis it jason cloke??

he played a top game on teh w/e, has been really good in the vfl this yr, is a good mark and a strong body. is he of any value to us, even though he is a cloke??

thoughts
Title: Re: Could Polak play Full Back
Post by: Moi on July 30, 2006, 10:45:58 AM
Do you reckon Gaspar is worth anything?  I would have thought he was on his last year.  Who'd want a 30+ injury prone backman?
Not worth a cent or a trade for a boot studder now, Juliz.  Should have gotten rid of him when he tried to up his price.  But everyone wanted him then and they let him blackmail the club.  Not his fault to want to get the most out of his limited time in footy - just stupid administrators.  Should have traded him then and it should have been us screwing other clubs to get some value out of him with a good trade and a couple of draft picks. We've got him i reckon until he retires - nobody will want him.
Title: Re: Could Polak play Full Back
Post by: letsgetiton! on July 30, 2006, 11:08:24 AM
hansen iirc was a tiger supporter and wants to come home, could he slot in at chb??
Title: Re: Could Polak play Full Back
Post by: PuntRdRoar on July 30, 2006, 11:20:25 AM
Someone will pay something because full backs who can play on gorillas are still needed in the game.
Title: Re: Could Polak play Full Back
Post by: mightytiges on July 30, 2006, 07:54:18 PM
As Moi and Julz said Gas' trade value is zilch.

i know he is not a star but uis it jason cloke??

he played a top game on teh w/e, has been really good in the vfl this yr, is a good mark and a strong body. is he of any value to us, even though he is a cloke??

thoughts

We don't need another dud. Clement and Presti allow him to be the third man up. One on one he is useless. Travis looks like being the only decent Cloke of the three.
Title: Re: Could Polak play Full Back
Post by: letsgetiton! on July 30, 2006, 08:50:16 PM
As Moi and Julz said Gas' trade value is zilch.

i know he is not a star but uis it jason cloke??

he played a top game on teh w/e, has been really good in the vfl this yr, is a good mark and a strong body. is he of any value to us, even though he is a cloke??

thoughts

We don't need another dud. Clement and Presti allow him to be the third man up. One on one he is useless. Travis looks like being the only decent Cloke of the three.

i know it was just the dawks, but jason cloke on the w/e made clement lok hopeless and was the bog . imo clement isnt that good, he is just pumped up by his coach and the media, and i stand by my word that he is no where near as good as ppl make out, and imo , i reckon j.cloke has more to offer(dud or not) than the duds we have in defence like hall
Title: Re: Could Polak play Full Back
Post by: The Glove on July 30, 2006, 11:51:15 PM
Do you reckon Gaspar is worth anything?  I would have thought he was on his last year.  Who'd want a 30+ injury prone backman?
Not worth a cent or a trade for a boot studder now, Juliz.  Should have gotten rid of him when he tried to up his price.  But everyone wanted him then and they let him blackmail the club.  Not his fault to want to get the most out of his limited time in footy - just stupid administrators.  Should have traded him then and it should have been us screwing other clubs to get some value out of him with a good trade and a couple of draft picks. We've got him i reckon until he retires - nobody will want him.


Darren took $500K less to stay with Richmond than to go to fremantle - also happy to offer to take a pay cut his poor year in 2004 after the knee op.  that's loyalty in my book and I bet those bagging here would all leave their current employer if another employer offered a five year contract and 100k more per year.  All on another planet you lot - just need to whinge for the sake of it and BTW in rounds 13-16 when Darren played he kept Tredrea, Neitz, Tarrant and Hall to a combined total of three goals.  In rounds 12 and 17 when Gas wasn't playing Franklin and Gehrig kicked 16 goals on Hall and friends.  Some people have fillet mignon served on a platter and still screech for hamburger.

Dont know why I bother really ::)
Title: Re: Could Polak play Full Back
Post by: mightytiges on July 31, 2006, 04:59:48 AM
Performances such as Saturday's bring out the 25 years of frustration in alot of us glove (maybe all of us). These games test our resolve as supporters but many people here especially the mature types lol are long term loyal Tiger members and a few of us here have been on various Tiger forums, such as the defunct Roarpower and Tigerfury, for 6-7 years now :o. We ain't going anywhere  ;D. We just hope the Tigers are going somewhere  :thumbsup.

Gas is still our best option at FB by far which is a compliment on Gas as he is still an excellent stopper as recent weeks have shown but it's an indictment on the RFC given he is 30 and nearing the end of his career. The game has also changed and quickened so even FBs need to rebound which means their kicking skills need to be precise. Sadly Gas' kicking is his major flaw. Spud totally butchered our list by recruiting hardly any KPPs. Razor is a tall flanker and Schulz is a natural forward. Just picking up two talls in 5 years was a disgrace. As for the contracts signed in 2001, blame the stupid admins at the time (Brayshaw) for being weak as they were with Holland.
Title: Re: Could Polak play Full Back
Post by: julzqld on July 31, 2006, 08:27:48 AM
Some people have fillet mignon served on a platter and still screech for hamburger.


Love the analogy.  I still think we are better off having Gaspar in our side.  I was just saying to those who want to trade him that, apart from us, he isn't worth anything to any other club.  Even if he stays at Richmond he probably only has a season or two left in him - injuries aside.
Title: Re: Could Polak play Full Back
Post by: mightytiges on September 16, 2006, 03:59:58 AM
Interesting that Polak has been picked in Freo's side for both finals so far on Thursday night yet he doesn't end up playing. Freo playing funny buggers to try to make out he has some value before trade week?
Title: Re: Could Polak play Full Back
Post by: Jackstar on September 16, 2006, 07:03:52 AM
Rumour doing the rounds, Polak for Cogs
Title: Re: Could Polak play Full Back
Post by: PuntRdRoar on September 16, 2006, 10:32:10 AM
Rumour doing the rounds, Polak for Cogs

I can just see the ferals being ecstatic with that Jacko :lol
Title: Re: Could Polak play Full Back
Post by: mightytiges on September 16, 2006, 06:09:55 PM
Rumour doing the rounds, Polak for Cogs

Freo fans would've come up with that one  :stupid. Obviously been smoking some weird stuff  ;).
Title: Re: Could Polak play Full Back
Post by: WilliamPowell on September 17, 2006, 11:07:33 AM
Interesting that Polak has been picked in Freo's side for both finals so far on Thursday night yet he doesn't end up playing. Freo playing funny buggers to try to make out he has some value before trade week?

It's reported in oneof the papers today (HUN I think) that Polak is going ask the Dockers to be traded as soon as their final's campaign ( gawd I hope it's next week) is over.

Fair to say I think he is GAWN

Rumour doing the rounds, Polak for Cogs

I love rumours

Actually Rumours is one of my all time favourite Albums  ;) ;D
Title: Re: Could Polak play Full Back
Post by: letsgetiton! on September 17, 2006, 04:02:16 PM
Rumour doing the rounds, Polak for Cogs

if that happens i would be over the moon. that woudl be a win 4 us. cogs is overrated , yes he ggets the ball, but his skills are below average and he isnt that quick 4 todays footy.
if i was offered that trade i would go 4 it
Title: Re: Could Polak play Full Back
Post by: mightytiges on September 17, 2006, 04:37:15 PM
Rumour doing the rounds, Polak for Cogs

if that happens i would be over the moon. that woudl be a win 4 us. cogs is overrated , yes he ggets the ball, but his skills are below average and he isnt that quick 4 todays footy.
if i was offered that trade i would go 4 it

No one is untradable but if Cogs is overrated then why trade him for a dud with off-field baggage who can't even crack a AFL game. Surely if Cogs is overrated (ie. has excellent value), you'd want a high draft pick or someone like ex-Vic Mundy or Johnson from Freo instead. Trading Cogs for Polak would be giving Cogs away.
Title: Re: Could Polak play Full Back
Post by: PuntRdRoar on September 17, 2006, 06:39:37 PM
Coughlan for Johnson is fair lol ;D
Title: Re: Could Polak play Full Back
Post by: Jackstar on September 17, 2006, 06:41:46 PM
Cogs doesnt want to go
Title: Re: Could Polak play Full Back
Post by: PuntRdRoar on September 17, 2006, 06:46:47 PM
Cogs has been terrifically loyal for a long time and he gave supporters hope when all we saw was a side full of poo. Personally for me its Tuck or Cogs to go, you cant have both, and I chose Tuck to leave coz Cogs can play as a run with player going forward and hes been a good Richmond person. Hes also a better player...by a long way to.
Title: Re: Could Polak play Full Back
Post by: mightytiges on September 17, 2006, 08:11:22 PM
Kellaway and going back in the deep past Billy Barrot were loyal to Richmond but sometimes tough and unpopular decisions have to made by the coach. I would not be against trading Cogs or Tuck if there's an offer the RFC would be silly to pass on but trading Cogs for Polak would be insane.
Title: Re: Could Polak play Full Back
Post by: one-eyed on September 18, 2006, 02:57:11 AM
Polak position
Craig Hutchison - PSST
The Age

FREMANTLE young gun Graham Polak appears certain to ask for a trade the moment the Dockers' campaign is over. Polak has struggled to hold down a spot this season, and was a late withdrawal from Friday night's clash against Melbourne. He has played just once since round 14. Hawthorn appears one possible destination given Polak lived with Trent Croad while he played at the Dockers, but lowly Carlton and Essendon — with a dearth of key position players — will back themselves in to push him through to the December draft.

http://www.realfooty.theage.com.au/articles/2006/09/17/1158431575633.html
Title: Re: Could Polak play Full Back
Post by: WilliamPowell on September 18, 2006, 01:06:02 PM

It's reported in oneof the papers today (HUN I think) that Polak is going ask the Dockers to be traded as soon as their final's campaign ( gawd I hope it's next week) is over.

Well there you go - 50/50 chance of being right and I was WRONG  :rollin

Polak position
Craig Hutchison - PSST
The Age

FREMANTLE young gun Graham Polak appears certain to ask for a trade the moment the Dockers' campaign is over. Polak has struggled to hold down a spot this season, and was a late withdrawal from Friday night's clash against Melbourne. He has played just once since round 14. Hawthorn appears one possible destination given Polak lived with Trent Croad while he played at the Dockers, but lowly Carlton and Essendon — with a dearth of key position players — will back themselves in to push him through to the December draft.

http://www.realfooty.theage.com.au/articles/2006/09/17/1158431575633.html

The Age it was  :whistle :ROTFL

Title: Re: Could Polak play Full Back
Post by: yandb on September 18, 2006, 01:06:53 PM
polak - arron james

both were players with potential, rarely delivered and have off field baggage


pass!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Could Polak play Full Back
Post by: Mr Magic on September 18, 2006, 10:36:00 PM
I want a Johnson or Hunter as our next CHB and we should be scouring the country to find them.

I don't want some offcut who can't make a team that is better than us.

We went down that path with Morrison who was supposed to be the understudy for Jonathon Brown and we all know how that turned out. :banghead

Massive pass on him and Jason Joke. They are not good enough. End of story. :help




PS: As for swapping Coughlan for this guy? LMFAO. :lol
Title: Re: Could Polak play Full Back
Post by: mightytiges on September 19, 2006, 11:49:10 AM
I want a Johnson or Hunter as our next CHB and we should be scouring the country to find them.

Everyone has 20/20 vision in hindsight but Johnson was another youngster who was overlooked by every club in the 2003 National draft before being picked up at pick 8 in the PSD. Freo obviously had been watching him closely in Perth. We took Ben Marsh at pick 4 in the PSD btw :banghead.
Title: Richmond leading the interest in Polak - SEN
Post by: mightytiges on September 20, 2006, 10:44:08 PM
Just on SEN - The Age tomorrow says we are leading the interest in Polak ahead of the Dees and Dogs. We are interested in him at the right price. We will not be giving up our first round pick. Dees and Dogs may outbid us with their later first round picks. Carlton would pick him up in the PSD as they have first pick if he leaves Freo.
Title: Re: Could Polak play Full Back
Post by: cub on September 20, 2006, 10:59:20 PM
For too many years Richmond have given guys a go on potential - Polak has shown he is not worth a 1st round pick at this stage. It is a gamble and if someone wants to take it let them have it - Not us !
Title: Re: Could Polak play Full Back
Post by: Mr Magic on September 21, 2006, 12:20:31 AM
I want a Johnson or Hunter as our next CHB and we should be scouring the country to find them.

Everyone has 20/20 vision in hindsight but Johnson was another youngster who was overlooked by every club in the 2003 National draft before being picked up at pick 8 in the PSD. Freo obviously had been watching him closely in Perth. We took Ben Marsh at pick 4 in the PSD btw :banghead.

The fact that Johnson was on the rookie list is exactly my point. We have to be working our asses off to find the next diamond in the rough.
Pick 8 doesn't guarantee us JS. Francis Jackson and his offsiders are going to have to work for their $s this year to find what we sorely need.
That is a player like Johnson eg. a Wil Thursfield.
Title: Richmond leads in the chase for Polak (The Age)
Post by: one-eyed on September 21, 2006, 02:31:51 AM
Richmond leads in the chase for Polak
Jake Niall
The Age
September 21, 2006

RICHMOND heads the list of clubs interested in acquiring Fremantle's under-utilised key position player Graham Polak.

Polak has attracted strong interest from Melbourne clubs, with the Tigers — who are in need of key-position players at both ends, particularly in defence — confirming that they are prepared to look at Polak at the right price.

Polak's attractiveness to clubs is based largely on the facts that he is young, has struggled for a game at Fremantle this year and there is always a dearth of key position players. Melbourne and the Bulldogs have also made inquiries about him.

While the Tigers are interested in Polak, who could provide a long-term replacement for Darren Gaspar and Andrew Kellaway, they are not willing to part with their first draft choice, pick No. 8.

Asked whether they were interested in trading for Polak, Richmond coach Terry Wallace said: "Through Greg Miller, we will look at all available options, but we have a very strong policy in regards to what we're prepared to give away. We've always sort of said that first-round draft selections are not now in our equation."

Fremantle, mindful that Polak could be lost cheaply because he is uncontracted, have indicated their desire to retain Polak.

Polak has not, as yet, been courted by Carlton, which has the first selection in the pre-season draft for uncontracted players and could acquire Polak for nothing.

Polak played in Fremantle's round-22 team against Port Adelaide and was a late withdrawal from the team that defeated Melbourne last Friday. He was among the 25-man squad that flew to Sydney yesterday.

http://www.realfooty.theage.com.au/realfooty/articles/2006/09/20/1158431782800.html
Title: Re: Could Polak play Full Back
Post by: mightytiges on September 21, 2006, 09:56:53 PM
LOL Freo asking for a 1st and 2nd draft pick for a WAFL player  ::). Just because they drafted him with pick 4 means he has value now. Fiora mark #2. 
Title: Re: Could Polak play Full Back
Post by: mightytiges on September 23, 2006, 02:50:29 PM
A caller on 3aw asked about us chasing Thorton and Polak (he also said he heard Freo wanted Cogs  ::) ). All the 3aw panel (Walls, Lyon, Sheahan and Hutchy) said in reply was that Polak isn't a key defender and it would be a blow to Carlton if they lost Thorton now.

LOL @ Walls just saying Richmond would have played finals this year and Spud would still be coach if we had picked up Pavlich instead of Fiora. Like we still would have picked up Simmo, Paddy, Lids and all the other youngsters and played a modern gameplan under Spud, Wallsy :wallywink.
Title: Re: Could Polak play Full Back
Post by: one-eyed on September 26, 2006, 06:05:10 PM
Rumour doing the rounds, Polak for Cogs

It seems this rumour is doing the rounds again  ::).
Title: Re: Could Polak play Full Back
Post by: letsgetiton! on September 26, 2006, 06:27:39 PM
Rumour doing the rounds, Polak for Cogs

It seems this rumour is doing the rounds again  ::).

if that happens its a win 4 us!
i hope it happens, cogs is not quick enopugh, and skills are poor. we will reap the rewards if that happens
Title: Miller chatting to Polak
Post by: mightytiges on September 27, 2006, 09:43:26 AM
Greg Denham was on SEN just now. Not the most reliable journo with info so take it as you will.

Miller will talk (again?) to Polak this week (his phone cut out as he was talking to KB). Bulldogs also interested Polak. Hawthorn may jump in too if Mal Michael stays at Brisbane. We prefer Polak over Thorton as Polak can play either end of the ground.

A caller rang in and said Polak coming to Richmond in done already but couldn't come up with any details as far as trade would involve  ::). Said that still needs to be negotiated. Greg Denham said Cogs is going nowhere although Freo would love him of course.
Title: Re: Could Polak play Full Back
Post by: mightytiges on September 27, 2006, 10:00:58 AM
Rumour doing the rounds, Polak for Cogs

It seems this rumour is doing the rounds again  ::).

if that happens its a win 4 us!
i hope it happens, cogs is not quick enopugh, and skills are poor. we will reap the rewards if that happens

Despite whatever flaws Cogs has in his game and the fact he's coming back from a knee, I can't see why we would give up one of our best midfielders for someone who cant get a AFL game at Freo and has off-field baggage. On current value no way would you do that trade.
Title: Re: Could Polak play Full Back
Post by: WilliamPowell on September 27, 2006, 10:53:21 AM
I still don't like the idea of Polak at Tigerland. :-\

Would I trade for Cogs for Polak? A straight sway - absolutely not.

Polak and the Dockers first round pick (about 12 or 13) for Cogs - yeah you'd have to look at that but I cannot see that happening
Title: Re: Could Polak play Full Back
Post by: letsgetiton! on September 27, 2006, 12:59:44 PM
I still don't like the idea of Polak at Tigerland. :-\

lets see if u feel the same in a yr or 2 when he is firing 4 us
Title: Re: Could Polak play Full Back
Post by: mightytiges on September 27, 2006, 02:35:46 PM
I still don't like the idea of Polak at Tigerland. :-\

lets see if u feel the same in a yr or 2 when he is firing 4 us

or flying high at Coburg  ;)  :shh

Also forgot to mention that Denham doesn't think Kingsley will be in the AFL next year which seemed hard to believe.
Title: Re: Could Polak play Full Back
Post by: letsgetiton! on September 27, 2006, 04:02:34 PM
I still don't like the idea of Polak at Tigerland. :-\

lets see if u feel the same in a yr or 2 when he is firing 4 us

or flying high at Coburg  ;)  :shh

Also forgot to mention that Denham doesn't think Kingsley will be in the AFL next year which seemed hard to believe.

flying high lol  nice one
he may also take up baseball,   :rollin
Title: Re: Could Polak play Full Back
Post by: Moi on September 27, 2006, 08:17:46 PM
Re Polak – Terry said we’re looking for a key defender – but very, very non committal and very, very short reply to caller's question lol
Title: Re: Could Polak play Full Back
Post by: bluey_21 on September 27, 2006, 08:21:06 PM
Only interested if we can get him for a 3rd rounder at most, unlikely to happen though
Title: Re: Could Polak play Full Back
Post by: one-eyed on September 28, 2006, 01:14:23 AM
Greg Denham
The Australian
September 28, 2006

Richmond confirmed its interest in Fremantle key-position player Graham Polak, but football director Greg Miller said the Tigers would not start to lobby for a trade until he had spoken to Polak, which he said was likely to happen within a week.

Polak, who has also been linked to the Western Bulldogs, played 11 games this season for a career tally of 73 in five years. But he played just once since round 13 and was overlooked in Fremantle's three finals appearances.

http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,20867,20487155-36035,00.html
Title: Re: Could Polak play Full Back
Post by: mightytiges on September 29, 2006, 01:16:45 PM
Made-up trade but based around alleged interested parties and names  ;)

Rich:  Krakouer, pick 42 for Rosa, Polak
Freo: Polak for Sampi 
WCE: Rosa, Sampi for Krakouer, pick 42

 :outtahere

Title: Re: Could Polak play Full Back
Post by: Puntroadroar on September 29, 2006, 05:29:10 PM
Any of you reckon Polak could play full back. I reckon he could easily do CHB and even up forward. but hes a big lump of a guy, taken 4th overall in the superdraft, played at a comedy capers club for a long time, still young. At 23 or 24 I reckon we should look at it. We have no one to play on the huge forwards.


 :o hey imposter !!! get your own username !!!  :D
Title: Polak to remain a Docker - Greg Miller
Post by: one-eyed on October 05, 2006, 03:14:50 AM
Chip Le Grand
The Australian
October 05, 2006

.. Trade talks appear to have cooled over Fremantle key position player Graham Polak. Polak is out of contract and finished the season out of Fremantle's senior team, fuelling speculation that he may be traded to another club.

While Polak has received strong interest from Richmond and Carlton, which has the first pick in the pre-season draft, Richmond football manager Greg Miller yesterday predicted the 22-year-old would remain a Docker.

http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,20867,20526189-36035,00.html
Title: Re: Could Polak play Full Back
Post by: letsgetiton! on October 05, 2006, 09:15:03 AM
Maybe he thinks hes got Perry over the line who knows
thats the general feeling going around, word was tigers had a bigger fish to fry and better than polak, maybe pery is teh one :thumbsup
Title: Re: Could Polak play Full Back
Post by: cub on October 05, 2006, 03:09:30 PM
WHO - Never heard of him, looked up in North profile been around a while and not much to show for it. Somehow he dont seem like a big fishy to me.
Title: Re: Could Polak play Full Back
Post by: letsgetiton! on October 05, 2006, 03:53:32 PM
I dont think Perry would sort of constitute being a big fish, just rather if Miller and Wallace have Perry and they feel Perry can take his opportunity then the money they would have given to Polak can go to another player they maybe interested in who may be a bigger fish indeed. For mine, from the times Ive seen Perry play which is limited he does have the capacity to do well, and if we get him and he takes his opportunity we could have a full back who plays 200 games for us.

maybe he does not have the "name" but he has more potential imo, and i bet miller and wallace think so too
Title: Re: Could Polak play Full Back
Post by: mightytiges on October 05, 2006, 04:10:46 PM
I see bee dee on BF reckons Polak is a done deal  ???.

As for Perry - he's 21 so I'm guessing the club thinks like many talls he has taken longer to develop and we can grab him off North just as he's about to break into the seniors after 4 years on their list. He played 8 games this year. 

----------------------------

Joel Perry
   
(http://kangaroos.com.au/cp2/c2/webi/person/125268aj.jpg)

Guernsey Number: 37
Height   192 cm
Weight:   95 kg
Recruited From:   Upper Ferntree Gully/Eastern U18
Debut:   2006
Date of Birth:   18 June 1985
   
ABOUT
A tall utility, he played two pre-season competition matches in 2005, but failed to break into the Roos’ line-up over the premiership season and now has spent three years as a development player. However, the former Eastern Ranges junior was an emergency for one game, in round nine.

PLAYER STATS
(as at the completion of the 2006 season)
Games: 8
Goals: 0
Brownlow Medal: career votes 0.

Player honours:
Draft history: 2002 National AFL Draft 3rd round selection (Kangaroos) No. 31 on-traded by St Kilda to Port Adelaide for Byron Pickett.
 
AFL 2006 Premiership Season
Round      Date                    vs.             K     H     P     M   HO   T   FF   FA   G   B
Round 2   08/04/2006   Geelong            2     7      9      3      0      1      0      0       0      0
Round 3   17/04/2006   Collingwood   5   13   18   4   0   1   0   2   0   0
Round 4   23/04/2006   West Coast     6   4   10   2   0   0   1   1   0   0
Round 5   29/04/2006   Melbourne   7   4   11   7   0   1   0   0   0   0
Round 6   07/05/2006   Hawthorn   9   8   17   7   0   2   0   1   0   0
Round 7   14/05/2006   Adelaide     8     4    12     1     0     0        2    2    0    0
Round 8   20/05/2006   Fremantle   4   4   8   2   0   0   0   0   0   0
Round 15 15/07/2006   Brisbane    7   6   13   6   1   1   0   0   0   0

http://kangaroos.com.au/default.asp?pg=players&spg=playerprofile&personid=125268
Title: Re: Could Polak play Full Back
Post by: letsgetiton! on October 05, 2006, 05:09:13 PM
I see bee dee on BF reckons Polak is a done deal  ???.

As for Perry - he's 21 so I'm guessing the club thinks like many talls he has taken longer to develop and we can grab him off North just as he's about to break into the seniors after 4 years on their list. He played 8 games this year. 

----------------------------

Joel Perry
   
(http://kangaroos.com.au/cp2/c2/webi/person/125268aj.jpg)

Guernsey Number: 37
Height   192 cm
Weight:   95 kg
Recruited From:   Upper Ferntree Gully/Eastern U18
Debut:   2006
Date of Birth:   18 June 1985
   
ABOUT
A tall utility, he played two pre-season competition matches in 2005, but failed to break into the Roos’ line-up over the premiership season and now has spent three years as a development player. However, the former Eastern Ranges junior was an emergency for one game, in round nine.

PLAYER STATS
(as at the completion of the 2006 season)
Games: 8
Goals: 0
Brownlow Medal: career votes 0.

Player honours:
Draft history: 2002 National AFL Draft 3rd round selection (Kangaroos) No. 31 on-traded by St Kilda to Port Adelaide for Byron Pickett.
 
AFL 2006 Premiership Season
Round      Date                    vs.             K     H     P     M   HO   T   FF   FA   G   B
Round 2   08/04/2006   Geelong            2     7      9      3      0      1      0      0       0      0
Round 3   17/04/2006   Collingwood   5   13   18   4   0   1   0   2   0   0
Round 4   23/04/2006   West Coast     6   4   10   2   0   0   1   1   0   0
Round 5   29/04/2006   Melbourne   7   4   11   7   0   1   0   0   0   0
Round 6   07/05/2006   Hawthorn   9   8   17   7   0   2   0   1   0   0
Round 7   14/05/2006   Adelaide     8     4    12     1     0     0        2    2    0    0
Round 8   20/05/2006   Fremantle   4   4   8   2   0   0   0   0   0   0
Round 15 15/07/2006   Brisbane    7   6   13   6   1   1   0   0   0   0

http://kangaroos.com.au/default.asp?pg=players&spg=playerprofile&personid=125268

how credible is this bee dee character?
i ended up checking out the site and can u believe this tosser reckons he/she heard miller on the phone in canberra!!

this is what this person said on BF
Quote
Overheard Miller on the phone today in Canberra saying yep we got Polak, didnt say how or for what. But the manager has committed to the Tigers


so what are the chances of this person sitting right next to miller and is miller dumb enough to speak about such things with snoops up is clacker!??
Title: Re: Could Polak play Full Back
Post by: mightytiges on October 05, 2006, 05:53:20 PM
how credible is this bee dee character?
i ended up checking out the site and can u believe this tosser reckons he/she heard miller on the phone in canberra!!

this is what this person said on BF
Quote
Overheard Miller on the phone today in Canberra saying yep we got Polak, didnt say how or for what. But the manager has committed to the Tigers


so what are the chances of this person sitting right next to miller and is miller dumb enough to speak about such things with snoops up is clacker!??

Use to think bee dee was just another BF troll but this year by some miracle this character has "guessed" a fair few things right  :-\. The story about how he finds out is a running joke. Like hearing this and that bicycling past Punt Rd Oval.
Title: Re: Could Polak play Full Back
Post by: letsgetiton! on October 05, 2006, 05:58:44 PM
how credible is this bee dee character?
i ended up checking out the site and can u believe this tosser reckons he/she heard miller on the phone in canberra!!

this is what this person said on BF
Quote
Overheard Miller on the phone today in Canberra saying yep we got Polak, didnt say how or for what. But the manager has committed to the Tigers


so what are the chances of this person sitting right next to miller and is miller dumb enough to speak about such things with snoops up is clacker!??

Use to think bee dee was just another BF troll but this year by some miracle this character has "guessed" a fair few things right  :-\. The story about how he finds out is a running joke. Like hearing this and that bicycling past Punt Rd Oval.

if this person bee de claims to be in canberra ann dhearing miller, he/she is obv at draft camp and may be a journo, who knows
Title: Re: Could Polak play Full Back
Post by: mightytiges on October 05, 2006, 06:08:12 PM
how credible is this bee dee character?
i ended up checking out the site and can u believe this tosser reckons he/she heard miller on the phone in canberra!!

this is what this person said on BF
Quote
Overheard Miller on the phone today in Canberra saying yep we got Polak, didnt say how or for what. But the manager has committed to the Tigers


so what are the chances of this person sitting right next to miller and is miller dumb enough to speak about such things with snoops up is clacker!??

Use to think bee dee was just another BF troll but this year by some miracle this character has "guessed" a fair few things right  :-\. The story about how he finds out is a running joke. Like hearing this and that bicycling past Punt Rd Oval.

if this person bee de claims to be in canberra ann dhearing miller, he/she is obv at draft camp and may be a journo, who knows

This person might know a journo now up in Canberra? Someone from Freo could have leaked it? It could be complete crap? Like you say X who knows.
Title: Re: Could Polak play Full Back
Post by: one-eyed on October 06, 2006, 02:42:40 AM
If Polak is coming to Richmond then it might involve a 3-way trade with Freo and the Pies:

Quote
Fremantle is also interested in acquiring Tarrant — but only if it loses its underachieving, versatile key-position player Graham Polak, who is believed to be leaning towards staying with the Dockers.

Fremantle has been in contact with the Magpies to indicate it might be interested in trading for Tarrant. Otherwise, most expressions of interest have been made to his manager, Paul Connors, who is also the manager of Polak.

Both Carlton and Richmond have spoken to Polak, who is uncontracted, with the former seeing a chance to acquire a 22-year-old tall defender or forward who fits the club's policy of recruiting only players 24 and under.

http://www.realfooty.theage.com.au/realfooty/articles/2006/10/05/1159641462563.html
Title: Re: Could Polak play Full Back
Post by: tiga on October 06, 2006, 09:53:24 AM
News up here is that the Swans want Tarrant also. I don't think they could afford to snare Tarrant and Everitt at the same time.
Title: Re: Could Polak play Full Back
Post by: Bulluss on October 06, 2006, 05:36:38 PM
Jake Nial from the Age was on SEN before.

Said that if Polak goes anywhere it will be Richmond, but is 50/50 if he will leave or not.
Title: Richmond declares Cogs off limits to the Dockers (The Australian)
Post by: one-eyed on October 07, 2006, 03:02:23 AM
Clubs at starting gate as horse-trading begins in earnest
The Australian
Trade week begins on Monday, and Greg Denham examines how each club stands going into the bargaining

RICHMOND

After making enquiries into Fremantle's Polak, the Tigers have gone cold on the key-position player and may not be major players next week.

The Tigers have declared Mark Coughlan off limits to the Dockers.

FREMANTLE

Graham Polak has attracted a lot of interest from other clubs, but he may be re-contracted and stay.

Full article at: http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,20867,20537474-36035,00.html
Title: Re: Richmond declares Cogs off limits to the Dockers (The Australian)
Post by: letsgetiton! on October 07, 2006, 10:04:26 AM
Clubs at starting gate as horse-trading begins in earnest
The Australian
Trade week begins on Monday, and Greg Denham examines how each club stands going into the bargaining

RICHMOND

After making enquiries into Fremantle's Polak, the Tigers have gone cold on the key-position player and may not be major players next week.  The Tigers have declared Mark Coughlan off limits to the Dockers.[/size]
FREMANTLE

Graham Polak has attracted a lot of interest from other clubs, but he may be re-contracted and stay.

Full article at: http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,20867,20537474-36035,00.html

its quite easy, if we are not major players next week, thats makes 2 yrs in a row and means miller should walk away or be sacked.
his job is to get us players and make big moves during trade week and last yr he failed imo, this yr he has to make up 4 it
Title: Re: Could Polak play Full Back
Post by: mightytiges on October 07, 2006, 03:00:13 PM
I would like to see us active too but I wouldn't be satisfied with a firesale either. We need to trade to improve our draft position.
Title: Re: Richmond declares Cogs off limits to the Dockers (The Australian)
Post by: WilliamPowell on October 07, 2006, 03:53:11 PM
its quite easy, if we are not major players next week, thats makes 2 yrs in a row and means miller should walk away or be sacked.
his job is to get us players and make big moves during trade week and last yr he failed imo, this yr he has to make up 4 it

I'm all for being involved in trade week as a major player but it is important to be smart. We shouldn't trade just for the sake of it. Big moves are moves that improve your footy club.

So for example....

If we want Polak (which I personally don't care one way or another but struth he has to want to come to the Tiges and at the moment he doesn't seem that keen so I'd be steering clear) we have to do a deal that is our best interest.

Polak in a straight swap for Mark Coughlan or Shane Tuck is not a good deal for the RFC no matter how you look at it. There are so many question marks over Polak - plenty of ability but it's what going upstairs with him that's the key IMO. All the experts says Polak is only worth a late 2nd round pick at best. Is Tuck or Coughlan worth more than that? IMHO absolutely

So if you are going to do this trade you'd want Polak plus a first round pick for either a Coughlan or Tuck - Freo aren't going to go for that so you don't do the deal. 
Title: Re: Could Polak play Full Back
Post by: Mr Magic on October 07, 2006, 09:08:02 PM
Inaction from our football department next week should be regarded as failure. Doing one trade  ie. Joel Perry wont cut it, if we get to the end of next week and we havent properly offloaded the likes of Shane Tuck, Andrew Krakouer and afew others then we would have failed. To some extent I agree that if Greg doesnt fire up next week and produce some deals of consequence then you have to ask what is his role at Richmond.

I think it will be quiet.
Perry + late pick to Richmond for Krakouer.
and thats about it..

This exchange period will be a fizzer unless suitable player for player trades can be negotiated.

No one wants to part with their picks and every club is overating the players they want to move on because they want picks for them!!

Result = Stalemate

Taper your expectations and you may be pleasantly surprised by the outcomes but don't expect a frenzy by any means. There rarely is at this time of the year anyway and this year looks even more unlikely.

The PSD on the other hand...

I think we can expect to see another delisting or two at the RFC if it pans out the way I think it will. Time will tell. 8)

Title: Re: Could Polak play Full Back
Post by: mightytiges on October 07, 2006, 10:40:25 PM
Well said WP and Magic.

I think we can expect to see another delisting or two at the RFC if it pans out the way I think it will. Time will tell. 8)

Yep  :shh.
Title: Polak + Freo's pick 13 to the Tigers for our pick 8 (The Australian)
Post by: one-eyed on October 09, 2006, 03:16:47 AM
What do we think about us giving up pick 8 for Freo's pick 13 and Polak?

--------------------------

Tarrant package deal for Dockers
Greg Denham
The Australian
October 09, 2006

Fremantle is considering swapping first-round draft choices with Richmond in order to head off West Coast and snare Tarrant, who is keen to move on despite having a year on his contract.

In a potential trade deal, which the Magpies are aware of, the Dockers could send a slightly reluctant Graham Polak to the Tigers. The deal could involve Richmond handing its first national draft selection, No.8 overall, to the Dockers who would then give the Tigers their first pick, No.13.

Richmond would move five places down the pecking order in next month's draft, but would gain Polak, a prospective centre half-back or centre half-forward.

http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,20867,20546519-36035,00.html
Title: Re: Could Polak play Full Back
Post by: one-eyed on October 09, 2006, 03:24:29 AM
09 October 2006   
Herald-Sun
Damian Barrett

POLAK, the No. 4 pick in the 2001 "super draft" will seek to leave Fremantle after a disappointing season, and may be headed to Richmond.

Polak met Dockers coach Chris Connolly on Saturday and is understood to have since told the club he wants to be traded.

The Dockers do not want to lose the 194cm Polak, despite just once finding a place in the team for him in the final 11 matches of the season.

Polak believes he needs to leave home town Perth to move ahead with his football and life.

Richmond is considering its options with Polak, as is Carlton.

But the Blues are already immersed in trying to keep full-back Bret Thornton from accepting an attractive offer from Hawthorn.

Being off contract, Polak can enter the pre-season draft should a suitable trade fail to materialise this week.

http://www.heraldsun.news.com.au/footy/common/story_page/0,8033,20547473^20322,00.html
Title: Re: Polak + Freo's pick 13 to the Tigers for our pick 8 (The Australian)
Post by: mightytiges on October 09, 2006, 03:59:17 AM
In a potential trade deal, which the Magpies are aware of, the Dockers could send a slightly reluctant Graham Polak to the Tigers. The deal could involve Richmond handing its first national draft selection, No.8 overall, to the Dockers who would then give the Tigers their first pick, No.13.

We want players who are committed to the cause and the club. Now I'm not keen on Polak anyway but especially so if he is reluctant to come in the first place. Polak can't even get into Freo's best 22 so I'm not keen either on trading backwards first round positions in the draft to pick up a potential dud with off-field issues.

 



Title: Re: Could Polak play Full Back
Post by: Ramps on October 09, 2006, 07:56:37 AM
I cant support going backwards for Polak. Hes not the type of player you do that for and RFC supporters will be disappointed if it happens. Our requirement for a CHB/FB is becoming a similar situation to about 5 years ago when Frawley and co. were desperate for a goalkicking small forward pocket, that desperation cost us big time and stuffed us up as we recruited blokes like hudson. Im against this- dont go backwards for Polak.
Title: Re: Polak + Freo's pick 13 to the Tigers for our pick 8 (The Australian)
Post by: letsgetiton! on October 09, 2006, 08:08:40 AM
In a potential trade deal, which the Magpies are aware of, the Dockers could send a slightly reluctant Graham Polak to the Tigers. The deal could involve Richmond handing its first national draft selection, No.8 overall, to the Dockers who would then give the Tigers their first pick, No.13.

We want players who are committed to the cause and the club. Now I'm not keen on Polak anyway but especially so if he is reluctant to come in the first place. Polak can't even get into Freo's best 22 so I'm not keen either on trading backwards first round positions in the draft to pick up a potential dud with off-field issues.

 





dont belive all u read, of course freo would say that polak is reluctant to leave, they want to get max value 4 him where ever he goes.  my bet is he wants out of freo asap but freo are playing hardball.

and i agree, he would be a good pick up but only if we dont give up more than he is worth.

i dont agree in giving up pick 8 for 13, but does anyone know how much different in quality these pics are because this draft as we know has been pumped up as the greatest ever, so just say pic 4 to pick 20 are all equal in value and ability and class, then pick 8 and pick 13 is much the sam. just food 4 thought
Title: Re: Richmond declares Cogs off limits to the Dockers (The Australian)
Post by: blaisee on October 09, 2006, 08:09:58 AM
Clubs at starting gate as horse-trading begins in earnest
The Australian
Trade week begins on Monday, and Greg Denham examines how each club stands going into the bargaining

RICHMOND

After making enquiries into Fremantle's Polak, the Tigers have gone cold on the key-position player and may not be major players next week.  The Tigers have declared Mark Coughlan off limits to the Dockers.[/size]
FREMANTLE

Graham Polak has attracted a lot of interest from other clubs, but he may be re-contracted and stay.

Full article at: http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,20867,20537474-36035,00.html

its quite easy, if we are not major players next week, thats makes 2 yrs in a row and means miller should walk away or be sacked.
his job is to get us players and make big moves during trade week and last yr he failed imo, this yr he has to make up 4 it

u r a disgrace x.

Miller will do whats best for the club.

if that means doin nothing and keeping draft picks then so be it.

trading for tradings sake is ridiculous
Title: Re: Richmond declares Cogs off limits to the Dockers (The Australian)
Post by: letsgetiton! on October 09, 2006, 09:35:07 AM
Clubs at starting gate as horse-trading begins in earnest
The Australian
Trade week begins on Monday, and Greg Denham examines how each club stands going into the bargaining

RICHMOND

After making enquiries into Fremantle's Polak, the Tigers have gone cold on the key-position player and may not be major players next week.  The Tigers have declared Mark Coughlan off limits to the Dockers.[/size]
FREMANTLE

Graham Polak has attracted a lot of interest from other clubs, but he may be re-contracted and stay.

Full article at: http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,20867,20537474-36035,00.html

its quite easy, if we are not major players next week, thats makes 2 yrs in a row and means miller should walk away or be sacked.
his job is to get us players and make big moves during trade week and last yr he failed imo, this yr he has to make up 4 it

u r a disgrace x.

Miller will do whats best for the club.

if that means doin nothing and keeping draft picks then so be it.

trading for tradings sake is ridiculous

im a disgrace!!!

i think u r!!!

miller has had ample time now to get rid of players who are not up to it!
if he cant perorm this week and do whats best for richmond this week he should go, end of story!
finally we have players we can trade to bring better players to our club! its time miller lived up to his reputation and work wonders this week!
if we go through this week and we still have hall, tiv and krak on our list he has failed!
if he does not trade tuck and or cogs for better players if the opportunity arises he has failed!
screw reputations, screw sentiments, its time to act or else the tigers will miss the boat! again!
we cant just rely on kids in thne draft to build our team to success

u r the f disgrace, unlike u, i dont accept mediocrity and dont rate players that dont deserve it!

until i see miller actually do something , he is just another tosser that talks the talks and does nothing. will he get lost again this yr??
Title: Re: Richmond declares Cogs off limits to the Dockers (The Australian)
Post by: blaisee on October 09, 2006, 10:04:03 AM
Clubs at starting gate as horse-trading begins in earnest
The Australian
Trade week begins on Monday, and Greg Denham examines how each club stands going into the bargaining

RICHMOND

After making enquiries into Fremantle's Polak, the Tigers have gone cold on the key-position player and may not be major players next week.  The Tigers have declared Mark Coughlan off limits to the Dockers.[/size]
FREMANTLE

Graham Polak has attracted a lot of interest from other clubs, but he may be re-contracted and stay.

Full article at: http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,20867,20537474-36035,00.html

its quite easy, if we are not major players next week, thats makes 2 yrs in a row and means miller should walk away or be sacked.
his job is to get us players and make big moves during trade week and last yr he failed imo, this yr he has to make up 4 it

u r a disgrace x.

Miller will do whats best for the club.

if that means doin nothing and keeping draft picks then so be it.

trading for tradings sake is ridiculous

im a disgrace!!!

i think u r!!!

miller has had ample time now to get rid of players who are not up to it!
if he cant perorm this week and do whats best for richmond this week he should go, end of story!
finally we have players we can trade to bring better players to our club! its time miller lived up to his reputation and work wonders this week!
if we go through this week and we still have hall, tiv and krak on our list he has failed!
if he does not trade tuck and or cogs for better players if the opportunity arises he has failed!
screw reputations, screw sentiments, its time to act or else the tigers will miss the boat! again!
we cant just rely on kids in thne draft to build our team to success

u r the f disgrace, unlike u, i dont accept mediocrity and dont rate players that dont deserve it!

until i see miller actually do something , he is just another tosser that talks the talks and does nothing. will he get lost again this yr??

if you think he doesnt try and trade tivs hall and krak every year you are dilusional

You are a feral fan and whats worse one without any idea of what it takes to manage an afl list.

If it was as easy as you say a hack like you would have this job and not Greg Miller

Knee jerk reactions like the ones you suggest are the reason why we have hacks on the list. Only a steady long term plan ( like the one we have ) will replace hacks with champions.

You are a moron, and worse still an uninformed, immature one

Trading for tradings sake. Welcome to 1996.

lets hope the club keeps ignoring noises like the ones you make, we are absolutely f@cked if we dont
Title: Re: Richmond declares Cogs off limits to the Dockers (The Australian)
Post by: letsgetiton! on October 09, 2006, 10:15:54 AM
Clubs at starting gate as horse-trading begins in earnest
The Australian
Trade week begins on Monday, and Greg Denham examines how each club stands going into the bargaining

RICHMOND

After making enquiries into Fremantle's Polak, the Tigers have gone cold on the key-position player and may not be major players next week.  The Tigers have declared Mark Coughlan off limits to the Dockers.[/size]
FREMANTLE

Graham Polak has attracted a lot of interest from other clubs, but he may be re-contracted and stay.

Full article at: http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,20867,20537474-36035,00.html

its quite easy, if we are not major players next week, thats makes 2 yrs in a row and means miller should walk away or be sacked.
his job is to get us players and make big moves during trade week and last yr he failed imo, this yr he has to make up 4 it

u r a disgrace x.

Miller will do whats best for the club.

if that means doin nothing and keeping draft picks then so be it.

trading for tradings sake is ridiculous

im a disgrace!!!

i think u r!!!

miller has had ample time now to get rid of players who are not up to it!
if he cant perorm this week and do whats best for richmond this week he should go, end of story!
finally we have players we can trade to bring better players to our club! its time miller lived up to his reputation and work wonders this week!
if we go through this week and we still have hall, tiv and krak on our list he has failed!
if he does not trade tuck and or cogs for better players if the opportunity arises he has failed!
screw reputations, screw sentiments, its time to act or else the tigers will miss the boat! again!
we cant just rely on kids in thne draft to build our team to success

u r the f disgrace, unlike u, i dont accept mediocrity and dont rate players that dont deserve it!

until i see miller actually do something , he is just another tosser that talks the talks and does nothing. will he get lost again this yr??

if you think he doesnt try and trade tivs hall and krak every year you are dilusional

You are a feral fan and whats worse one without any idea of what it takes to manage an afl list.

If it was as easy as you say a hack like you would have this job and not Greg Miller

Knee jerk reactions like the ones you suggest are the reason why we have hacks on the list. Only a steady long term plan ( like the one we have ) will replace hacks with champions.

You are a moron, and worse still an uninformed, immature one

Trading for tradings sake. Welcome to 1996.

lets hope the club keeps ignoring noises like the ones you make, we are absolutely f@cked if we dont

im a moron???  look in the mirror u twit!

if he cant trade these players the answer is easy delist them dont resign them!
we have had opprtunities to delist these players b4 and have failed
last yr rodan bluffed himself into another contract
the yr b4 hall wanted out and wanted to go to sydeny and they wanted him and no tyradfe was made!
3 trade weeks/yrs in a row no one wanted tiv and last yr we had a chance to ship the prickl over to the bummers! and nothing happened.
for too many yrs we have signed up and re-signed players that cant get a gig at another club but we are continually re-signing these duds and it looks like  tive will get another contract at tigerland, what a joke.
if they are out of contract and we cant trade then f them off! thats how u manage a list, if they are good enough get a young kid to develop in their place


and btw , what makes u more informed than me???
who the f do u think u r!

looks like u r the uninformed one not me!
Title: Re: Could Polak play Full Back
Post by: WilliamPowell on October 09, 2006, 11:03:20 AM
the only deal I would consider for Polak would be:

Polak and freo's 2nd rd pick for pick 26 - and to be honest that would stretching it
Title: Re: Richmond declares Cogs off limits to the Dockers (The Australian)
Post by: blaisee on October 09, 2006, 12:11:47 PM

if he cant trade these players the answer is easy delist them dont resign them!

sounds easy enough

we have had opprtunities to delist these players b4 and have failed

well done nostradamus
last yr rodan bluffed himself into another contract

dont worry he is gone this year
the yr b4 hall wanted out and wanted to go to sydeny and they wanted him and no tyradfe was made!

Hall didnt want to go, not Millers fault at all, Miller was prepared to trade him but WTF would you know? interesting that you remember that one but dont remember
P bowden for f all
Simmo for fiona
Nathan Brown ect
selective memory is a fun game


3 trade weeks/yrs in a row no one wanted tiv and last yr we had a chance to ship the prickl over to the bummers! and nothing happened.

That is crap
for too many yrs we have signed up and re-signed players that cant get a gig at another club but we are continually re-signing these duds and it looks like  tive will get another contract at tigerland, what a joke.
if they are out of contract and we cant trade then f them off! thats how u manage a list, if they are good enough get a young kid to develop in their place

You are out of your depth.


and btw , what makes u more informed than me???
who the f do u think u r!

looks like u r the uninformed one not me!

Is it still school holidays or what?
Look X, I dont have time to argue with irrational people like you, that cannot control their emotions. Asking Miller to resign if he cant trade Coughlan is just so childish that I will avoid your responses from now on. You have no idea IMHO good luck and have a happy trade week. ;)

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Title: Re: Could Polak play Full Back
Post by: WilliamPowell on October 09, 2006, 12:30:59 PM
 :banghead :banghead

Title: Re: Could Polak play Full Back
Post by: WilliamPowell on October 09, 2006, 12:44:25 PM
Is this gimmick time on OER now is it or are you two clowns gunna FIGHT FIGHT FIGHT!

The ref - is saying TIME :thumbsup
Title: Re: Could Polak play Full Back
Post by: one-eyed on October 09, 2006, 01:34:49 PM
Moving right along  ::)

SEN just had a soundbite from Miller. Miller said he spoke to Polak about 10 days ago and he hasn't spoken to Freo since the draft camp last week. We're interested as are other clubs.

Greg keeping his cards close to his chest.

LOL @ the caller on SEN who just said Tambling will be traded for Polak because he wants to go back to WA. Problem is Blingers is from the NT  :rollin

 
Title: Re: Could Polak play Full Back
Post by: mightytiges on October 09, 2006, 02:15:24 PM
Some people are saying the first 6-7 picks in the draft are obvious and then the next 10 are pretty much the same but we'd be kicking ourselves if the some sides before us go for midfielders like Selwood and Jetta and a Thorp fell through to 8.

the only deal I would consider for Polak would be:

Polak and freo's 2nd rd pick for pick 26 - and to be honest that would stretching it

I still think we'd be paying over the odds but that WP is something I could accept (just).
Title: Re: Richmond declares Cogs off limits to the Dockers (The Australian)
Post by: letsgetiton! on October 09, 2006, 03:02:09 PM

if he cant trade these players the answer is easy delist them dont resign them!

sounds easy enough

we have had opprtunities to delist these players b4 and have failed

well done nostradamus
last yr rodan bluffed himself into another contract

dont worry he is gone this year
the yr b4 hall wanted out and wanted to go to sydeny and they wanted him and no tyradfe was made!

Hall didnt want to go, not Millers fault at all, Miller was prepared to trade him but WTF would you know? interesting that you remember that one but dont remember
P bowden for f all
Simmo for fiona
Nathan Brown ect
selective memory is a fun game


3 trade weeks/yrs in a row no one wanted tiv and last yr we had a chance to ship the prickl over to the bummers! and nothing happened.

That is crap
for too many yrs we have signed up and re-signed players that cant get a gig at another club but we are continually re-signing these duds and it looks like  tive will get another contract at tigerland, what a joke.
if they are out of contract and we cant trade then f them off! thats how u manage a list, if they are good enough get a young kid to develop in their place

You are out of your depth.


and btw , what makes u more informed than me???
who the f do u think u r!

looks like u r the uninformed one not me!

Is it still school holidays or what?
Look X, I dont have time to argue with irrational people like you, that cannot control their emotions. Asking Miller to resign if he cant trade Coughlan is just so childish that I will avoid your responses from now on. You have no idea IMHO good luck and have a happy trade week. ;)

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blaisee u r god, u r the know all about everything
sorry but i finished my education long ago but obviously i need to go back to school to become as intelligent as you.
so please pm me all ur details, name address, school you went to, cos all i wanna be is as good great as you!
please please help me to achieve your greatness, whats the point of being so great if you cant help others , like me , become as great as you

oh lets all hail ye!

btw

you call me immature

why because i have an opinion

and based on my opinion

you called me a MORON

wow, love your maturity!!!

i must admit i cant really complain but i prob should, but it must be ok to get personal and call ppl morons just for having an opinion

but i tell ya what you intelligent person
lets meet up for a coffee, call me a moron to my face , not in a post, and lets see who will walk away laughing

yes thats immature , but hey , you called that so i must be! because im just a stupid moron.

but at least im not a gutless pri.ck!
Title: Re: Could Polak play Full Back
Post by: one-eyed on October 09, 2006, 03:08:32 PM
Let it go and stick to the Polak topic. ENOUGH!  >:(  :banghead

Title: Re: Richmond declares Cogs off limits to the Dockers (The Australian)
Post by: blaisee on October 09, 2006, 03:24:24 PM

if he cant trade these players the answer is easy delist them dont resign them!

sounds easy enough

we have had opprtunities to delist these players b4 and have failed

well done nostradamus
last yr rodan bluffed himself into another contract

dont worry he is gone this year
the yr b4 hall wanted out and wanted to go to sydeny and they wanted him and no tyradfe was made!

Hall didnt want to go, not Millers fault at all, Miller was prepared to trade him but WTF would you know? interesting that you remember that one but dont remember
P bowden for f all
Simmo for fiona
Nathan Brown ect
selective memory is a fun game


3 trade weeks/yrs in a row no one wanted tiv and last yr we had a chance to ship the prickl over to the bummers! and nothing happened.

That is crap
for too many yrs we have signed up and re-signed players that cant get a gig at another club but we are continually re-signing these duds and it looks like  tive will get another contract at tigerland, what a joke.
if they are out of contract and we cant trade then f them off! thats how u manage a list, if they are good enough get a young kid to develop in their place

You are out of your depth.


and btw , what makes u more informed than me???
who the f do u think u r!

looks like u r the uninformed one not me!

Is it still school holidays or what?
Look X, I dont have time to argue with irrational people like you, that cannot control their emotions. Asking Miller to resign if he cant trade Coughlan is just so childish that I will avoid your responses from now on. You have no idea IMHO good luck and have a happy trade week. ;)

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blaisee u r god, u r the know all about everything
sorry but i finished my education long ago but obviously i need to go back to school to become as intelligent as you.
so please pm me all ur details, name address, school you went to, cos all i wanna be is as good great as you!
please please help me to achieve your greatness, whats the point of being so great if you cant help others , like me , become as great as you

oh lets all hail ye!

btw

you call me immature

why because i have an opinion

and based on my opinion

you called me a MORON

wow, love your maturity!!!

i must admit i cant really complain but i prob should, but it must be ok to get personal and call ppl morons just for having an opinion

but i tell ya what you intelligent person
lets meet up for a coffee, call me a moron to my face , not in a post, and lets see who will walk away laughing

yes thats immature , but hey , you called that so i must be! because im just a stupid moron.

but at least im not a gutless pri.ck!

your'e a funny girl

you are getting me all Xcited !

Tell you what PM me your details, and I will be more than happy to accommodate you, any time, any place.

there is nothing better than kicking poo out of someone after you have won the verbal war, its like game set and match. Thanks for confirming you are still at school, ony a teenager would want to pick a fight because he got owned on a messagboard.

Opinions are like a@@holes you have one that doesnt make sense, not your fault. The truth will come to you with experience, unfortuntaley for you that is a long long time away. ;)

interesting that you got all tough after I said I was going to avoid you. Very immature , Again grow up !

Title: Re: Could Polak play Full Back
Post by: WilliamPowell on October 09, 2006, 03:28:39 PM
Let it go and stick to the Polak topic. ENOUGH!  >:(  :banghead



Which part of this post was not clear

So I will repeat:

Let it go and stick to the Polak topic. ENOUGH!  >:(  :banghead

and BTW - don't care who or how it started - just end it NOW >:( :banghead



Title: Re: Richmond declares Cogs off limits to the Dockers (The Australian)
Post by: letsgetiton! on October 09, 2006, 03:57:47 PM

your'e a funny girl

you are getting me all Xcited !

Tell you what PM me your details, and I will be more than happy to accommodate you, any time, any place.


i pm'd u! so put actions where ur words are!
Title: Re: Could Polak play Full Back
Post by: one-eyed on October 09, 2006, 04:07:16 PM
The 4pm news mentioned us and West Coast are interested in Polak.
Title: Re: Could Polak play Full Back
Post by: letsgetiton! on October 09, 2006, 04:19:00 PM
The 4pm news mentioned us and West Coast are interested in Polak.
i have a feeling that if we will be active in this trade period it will be late in the week
Title: Threeway trade b/w us, Freo and Pies
Post by: one-eyed on October 09, 2006, 04:22:36 PM
Latest trade offer on the table according to SEN:

We get Polak
Freo get Tarrant
Pies get player/picks off us.
Title: Re: Could Polak play Full Back
Post by: Darth Tiger on October 09, 2006, 04:23:54 PM
Polak, can understand that the Tigers are interested, but am still undersided about his real playing value.
Has not delivered when playing for Freo, as he has not cemented a KP and has been overtaken by the younger Michael Johnson.

PROS
Contested marking,
Courageous pack marker (although he tends to float into packs rather than crash them),
Height,
Defensively minded.

CONS
Kicking not accurate,
Decision making under pressure,
Pace (does he work hard enough on & off the track ?),
Injuries (cannot string games together for any length),
Comittment / Work Ethic  ???

If the Tigers are keen to trade, would not want the Tigers to overpay cos IMO we need more of a Chad Cornes type rather than a poor man's Leigh Brown with puppy fat.
Title: Re: Threeway trade b/w us, Freo and Pies
Post by: letsgetiton! on October 09, 2006, 04:26:32 PM
Latest trade offer on the table according to SEN:

We get Polak
Freo get Tarrant
Pies get player/picks off us.
just heard, miller is on soon, but i bet he wont say much
Title: Re: Threeway trade b/w us, Freo and Pies
Post by: mightytiges on October 09, 2006, 05:49:59 PM
Latest trade offer on the table according to SEN:

We get Polak
Freo get Tarrant
Pies get player/picks off us.

Ch 10 news said it was:

Rich:  pick 8 -> pick 13 + Polak
Freo: pick 13 + Polak -> Tarrant
Coll:  Tarrant -> pick 8
Title: Re: Threeway trade b/w us, Freo and Pies
Post by: WilliamPowell on October 09, 2006, 05:54:15 PM
Ch 10 news said it was:

Rich:  pick 8 -> pick 13 + Polak
Freo: pick 13 + Polak -> Tarrant
Coll:  Tarrant -> pick 8

 :banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead

That is a stupid, dumb deal - EOS
Title: Re: Could Polak play Full Back
Post by: Ramps on October 09, 2006, 05:58:02 PM
IMHO we should be concentrating on generating a couple of extra 2nd round picks- we'll be better off.
Title: Re: Could Polak play Full Back
Post by: Jackstar on October 09, 2006, 05:58:31 PM
Pick 8 isnt going anywhere. you might find it will be a player who is on good $$$$$
Title: Re: Could Polak play Full Back
Post by: mightytiges on October 09, 2006, 06:37:33 PM
Pick 8 isnt going anywhere.

That's what we want to hear Jack :thumbsup.

I agree with Ramps we'd be better off chasing another second rounder than that alleged threeway trade above. Imagine allowing the Pies to get pick 8 for a overrated soft HFF like Tarrant  :help  :banghead.

Title: Re: Could Polak play Full Back
Post by: Rodgerramjet on October 09, 2006, 08:58:42 PM
The thing with this trade period is to hold as many of your picks as you can and to try to improve the position of your 2nd and 3 rd rounders if at all possible. Remember all of the other clubs will be thinking the same thing, they are not going to let their picks go in this superdraft either. I expect thornton and Everitt to go in the PSD.
Title: Re: Could Polak play Full Back
Post by: mightytiges on October 09, 2006, 09:17:31 PM
The thing with this trade period is to hold as many of your picks as you can and to try to improve the position of your 2nd and 3 rd rounders if at all possible. Remember all of the other clubs will be thinking the same thing, they are not going to let their picks go in this superdraft either. I expect thornton and Everitt to go in the PSD.

Agree RR. The club has said we'll only have 4 or 5 picks in the National draft. If we can get those 4 or 5 picks within the top 42 then that would a positive. It seems some top 8 clubs are willing to trade decent second round picks for decent players so that looks the path we'll have to take.
Title: Re: Could Polak play Full Back
Post by: Loose Cannon on October 09, 2006, 09:23:34 PM
Pick 8 isnt going anywhere.

That's what we want to hear Jack :thumbsup.

I agree with Ramps we'd be better off chasing another second rounder than that alleged threeway trade above. Imagine allowing the Pies to get pick 8 for a overrated soft HFF like Tarrant  :help  :banghead.

I don't think it's such a bad deal. You have to take some risks in order to build a list. We need a KPP backman PRONTO. It's only five spots and the first round is supposed to be even.

We actually need another KPP backman as well, as depth, and a CHF who I hope we'll take with our first pick!
Title: Re: Could Polak play Full Back
Post by: mightytiges on October 09, 2006, 09:54:57 PM
Pick 8 isnt going anywhere.

That's what we want to hear Jack :thumbsup.

I agree with Ramps we'd be better off chasing another second rounder than that alleged threeway trade above. Imagine allowing the Pies to get pick 8 for a overrated soft HFF like Tarrant  :help  :banghead.

I don't think it's such a bad deal. You have to take some risks in order to build a list. We need a KPP backman PRONTO. It's only five spots and the first round is supposed to be even.

We actually need another KPP backman as well, as depth, and a CHF who I hope we'll take with our first pick!

That's very true LC that you have to take some risks. I'm just wary of Polak.

My concerns are firstly we're picking up someone with off-field baggage. Now Polak has probably achieved around as much as Paddy did at the doggies (sweet all) so that is a risk you take if you have faith in your coach and believe the player deep down does has ability. However Paddy's head was/is right and he wanted to come to Richmond. My second concern is we may miss on a quality KPP/CHF moving back 5 spots. If Gibbs, Selwood, Jetta are the top midfielders taken in the draft then Hansen, Gumbleton, Thorp, Leuenberger, Sellar, Armitage and maybe Riewoldt are the likely early taken talls in the draft. We've got a high chance of one still being around at 8 but they'll be gone by 13. Of course Miller and Jackson would be better judges as they've seen these kids most weeks but I personally don't see picks 8 and 13 as roughly the same for the cost of Polak.    
Title: Re: Could Polak play Full Back
Post by: Jackstar on October 09, 2006, 10:07:08 PM
One thing about Polak though, ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) :shh







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Title: Re: Could Polak play Full Back
Post by: Jackstar on October 09, 2006, 10:08:07 PM
Wow, just reached 1000 posts and i am giving out cyptic posts ::)
Title: Re: Could Polak play Full Back
Post by: mightytiges on October 09, 2006, 10:12:35 PM
There are picks available but instead of peefarting around we should be focused on those clubs. St Kilda and Melbourne are after Jason Johnson and atleast one or both will miss out. St Kilda and especially Melbourne I reckon could cough up a decent pick for a Tuck whilst I expect a late 2nd rounder for Krakouer- a very late second rounder.

Wishful thinking?!

Rich: Tuck -> picks 24 + 27
St K: pick 27 -> Everitt
Haw: Everitt + pick 24 -> Tuck  

If we could then trade say a Hyde or Krak + 42 to North for Perry + another late second rounder and ontrade that for Polak to Freo. Then that would leave us with picks 8, 24, 26, 27, 58 + Perry and Polak.
Title: Re: Could Polak play Full Back
Post by: mightytiges on October 09, 2006, 10:16:49 PM
One thing about Polak though, ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) :shh


Btw congrats Jack. That's at least 1,000 winks too :lol



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Title: Re: Could Polak play Full Back
Post by: mightytiges on October 09, 2006, 10:51:04 PM
Very wishful...I hope we keep it simple, keep our picks and get a couple extra. New kids will give supporters hope.

Sheldon denied the Saints part of that trade so yeah wishful thinking but according to the Hawks a club has offered an early second round pick for Everitt and it's not Sydney. I would be sniffing around that trade if true.
Title: Polak's preference is Punt Road (Herald-Sun)
Post by: one-eyed on October 10, 2006, 01:31:00 AM
Tarrant wants to join Eagles
10 October 2006   Herald-Sun
Rebecca Williams and Scott Gullan

CHRIS Tarrant wants to go to West Coast even though cross-town rival Fremantle is leading the race for his services.

While Collingwood is open to offers from anyone for its mercurial forward, Tarrant is adamant the reigning premier is his preferred destination.

Fremantle could use defender Graham Polak to try and lure Tarrant with a three-way deal involving Richmond and Collingwood and an exchange of first-round draft picks.

Polak has walked out on the Dockers and stated his preference is to go to Punt Rd with Carlton his second option.

Swann said the Magpies had not yet discussed what they would be asking for in return for Tarrant, but said the offer would have to be "pretty good".

"You put a position on a table and from a club pursuing Chris, they don't want to give you much and from our point of view we expect that a guy who's obviously contracted and an All-Australian footballer that they don't grow on trees," he said. "We're not adverse to players and picks and we'll just see how that goes."

http://www.heraldsun.news.com.au/footy/common/story_page/0,8033,20553586%255E20322,00.html
Title: Re: Polak's preference is Punt Road (Herald-Sun)
Post by: LondonTiger on October 10, 2006, 03:04:00 AM
Polak has walked out on the Dockers and stated his preference is to go to Punt Rd with Carlton his second option.
http://www.heraldsun.news.com.au/footy/common/story_page/0,8033,20553586%255E20322,00.html


Ok, now the bargaining chips are well and truly in Millers pocket.  Polak can walk into the PSD now, to Carlton for nothing, or Freo can get something out of the deal for Polak by trading him to Richmond.

How does Krak and pick 26 sound for Polak and pick 31?

Title: Re: Could Polak play Full Back
Post by: letsgetiton! on October 10, 2006, 07:21:23 AM
http://www.heraldsun.news.com.au/footy/common/story_page/0,8033,20553888%255E19742,00.html

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Tigers plan ahead

RICHMOND goalsneak Andrew Krakouer is available as the Tigers try to find room in their salary cap to make a play for Docker Graham Polak.
Title: Re: Could Polak play Full Back
Post by: letsgetiton! on October 10, 2006, 08:59:20 AM
Krak wants to go back to WA simple Krak to Freo Polak to us and no one will get upset lol ...

not even i will get upset, sounds good to me
Title: Re: Polak's preference is Punt Road (Herald-Sun)
Post by: mightytiges on October 10, 2006, 10:17:02 AM
I hope the RFC knows what it's doing  :-\.

Polak has walked out on the Dockers and stated his preference is to go to Punt Rd with Carlton his second option.
http://www.heraldsun.news.com.au/footy/common/story_page/0,8033,20553586%255E20322,00.html

Ok, now the bargaining chips are well and truly in Millers pocket.  Polak can walk into the PSD now, to Carlton for nothing, or Freo can get something out of the deal for Polak by trading him to Richmond.

How does Krak and pick 26 sound for Polak and pick 31?

I wouldn't have Polak worth Krak and a exchange of picks. One or the other IMHO. Polak may have greater potential worth because he's a tall but he's a fringe player in his 5th year at Freo, whereas Krak, although inconsistent, plays in our best 22.
Title: Re: Could Polak play Full Back
Post by: tiga on October 10, 2006, 11:55:45 AM
I think Polak maybe alright for us, most doubted the simmonds trade but troy has fired up beautifully for plough, maybe plough can get Polak right and he can do what simmonds has done. Krak for Polak is fine for mine.
I'm hoping you're right Ramps. I had more confidence in Simmo than I do in Polak. However in saying that, if anyone is capable or curbing Polak's extra-curricular activities and turing him into a consistent performer, Plough is.  :pray Also, Melbourne is a far more exciting city than Fremantle .  :lol




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Title: Re: Could Polak play Full Back
Post by: one-eyed on October 10, 2006, 01:47:16 PM
SEN just said Polak has spoken to Carlton. Us and them (excuse the PF pun tiga lol) are his two preferences. The Blues may try to convince Polak to just wait for the PSD and they'll promise to pick him up.

We haven't come up with a player to trade to Freo for Polak. We've asked them to pick a name and then we'll talk about it.

A silly rumour on the net is the Saints have offered pick 9 for Polak.
Title: Re: Could Polak play Full Back
Post by: mightytiges on October 10, 2006, 02:07:20 PM
We haven't come up with a player to trade to Freo for Polak. We've asked them to pick a name and then we'll talk about it.

Further to this SEN said Cogs won't be traded at all and they don't believe Krak will be traded to Freo as Krak is not what Freo needs.
Title: Re: Could Polak play Full Back
Post by: WilliamPowell on October 10, 2006, 02:27:03 PM
Just a reminder folks about posting rumours etc....after having to edit a couple of posts on this thread ....

that from a legal stand  point people need to be careful not to mention or allude to players in regards to unsubstanciated rumours. It can and will get OER in strife.

Thanks guys & gals

WP & MT  :thumbsup :thumbsup
Title: Tigers put picks before Polak (AFL site)
Post by: one-eyed on October 10, 2006, 04:11:35 PM
Dockers want a second round pick for Polak  ::) so Miller has said forget it.

Tigers put picks before Polak
2:17:56 PM Tue 10 October, 2006
Paul Gough
Sportal for afl.com.au

Richmond has conceded it will struggle to secure Fremantle key position player Graham Polak during AFL trade week with the Tigers not willing to sacrifice their youth policy by surrendering draft picks.

"We are building towards something here and we don't want to lose any draft choices," Miller said.

The Dockers are likely to demand at least a second round draft pick for Polak, given that at 22 and with 73 games behind him he is coming into the peak years of his career.

Full article at: http://afl.com.au/default.asp?pg=news&spg=display&articleid=302590
Title: Re: Tigers put picks before Polak (AFL site)
Post by: letsgetiton! on October 10, 2006, 04:23:51 PM
Dockers want a second round pick for Polak  ::) so Miller has said forget it.

Tigers put picks before Polak
2:17:56 PM Tue 10 October, 2006
Paul Gough
Sportal for afl.com.au

Richmond has conceded it will struggle to secure Fremantle key position player Graham Polak during AFL trade week with the Tigers not willing to sacrifice their youth policy by surrendering draft picks.

"We are building towards something here and we don't want to lose any draft choices," Miller said.

The Dockers are likely to demand at least a second round draft pick for Polak, given that at 22 and with 73 games behind him he is coming into the peak years of his career.

Full article at: http://afl.com.au/default.asp?pg=news&spg=display&articleid=302590
well done miller! hang tough.
if they want to trade it has to be 4 a player not a 1st or 2nd rnd pick.
freos speal that polak was a 4th pick is bs, yes he was, but he isnt now! he may well become a superstar, but he isnt at the moment, u dont trade based on potential, u trade on the value of player at th ecurrent moment. at right now polak cant get a game so he is no pick 4
Title: Re: Tigers put picks before Polak (AFL site)
Post by: WilliamPowell on October 10, 2006, 04:30:19 PM
freos speal that polak was a 4th pick is bs, yes he was, but he isnt now! he may well become a superstar, but he isnt at the moment, u dont trade based on potential, u trade on the value of player at th ecurrent moment. at right now polak cant get a game so he is no pick 4

Yeah it's a bit like The Pies going on and on and onnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn.... about Tarrant being an All Australian player - pluhhzeeee give me a break  ::) :wallywink
 ;D
Title: Re: Tigers put picks before Polak (AFL site)
Post by: letsgetiton! on October 10, 2006, 04:32:49 PM
freos speal that polak was a 4th pick is bs, yes he was, but he isnt now! he may well become a superstar, but he isnt at the moment, u dont trade based on potential, u trade on the value of player at th ecurrent moment. at right now polak cant get a game so he is no pick 4

Yeah it's a bit like The Pies going on and on and onnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn.... about Tarrant being an All Australian player - pluhhzeeee give me a break  ::) :wallywink
 ;D

AK was all australian, how about we trade him for polak lol  :lol
Title: Re: Tigers put picks before Polak (AFL site)
Post by: WilliamPowell on October 10, 2006, 04:33:59 PM

AK was all australian, how about we trade him for polak lol  :lol

So was Jonathon Hay - so maybe they should look to the Roos ;D
Title: Re: Could Polak play Full Back
Post by: cub on October 10, 2006, 04:34:44 PM
Spot on Tigers and Miller - We are building something here and the times are a changin  :thumbsup
Title: Re: Tigers put picks before Polak (AFL site)
Post by: mightytiges on October 10, 2006, 04:35:24 PM
The Dockers are likely to demand at least a second round draft pick for Polak, given that at 22 and with 73 games behind him he is coming into the peak years of his career.

Peak of his career  ??? - what in the WAFL lol

As X said Polak being pick 4 in 2001 means nothing now just as Fiora being pick 3 was when we got rid of him. Well done Greg  :clapping.
Title: Re: Could Polak play Full Back
Post by: tiga on October 10, 2006, 05:57:25 PM
Just a reminder folks about posting rumours etc....after having to edit a couple of posts on this thread ....

that from a legal stand  point people need to be careful not to mention or allude to players in regards to unsubstanciated rumours. It can and will get OER in strife.

Thanks guys & gals

WP & MT  :thumbsup :thumbsup

WP, I didn't think that making reference to a players possible taste in music was considered defamatory.  ;)  But I'm happy to sit with your decision.  :thumbsup
Title: Re: Tigers put picks before Polak (AFL site)
Post by: Mr Magic on October 10, 2006, 06:04:46 PM
The Dockers are likely to demand at least a second round draft pick for Polak, given that at 22 and with 73 games behind him he is coming into the peak years of his career.

Peak of his career  ??? - what in the WAFL lol

As X said Polak being pick 4 in 2001 means nothing now just as Fiora being pick 3 was when we got rid of him. Well done Greg  :clapping.

Great post.

The last fringe player we got coming into the "peak of his powers" was Shane Morrison. :banghead

At least we are learning. Good stuff GM.

DO NOT OVERVALUE ANOTHER CLUB'S DUDS!
Title: Re: Could Polak play Full Back
Post by: Jackstar on October 10, 2006, 06:34:18 PM
IF Polak gets to us, it will be a player swap ;)
Title: Re: Could Polak play Full Back
Post by: WilliamPowell on October 10, 2006, 09:31:19 PM
WP, I didn't think that making reference to a players possible taste in music was considered defamatory.  ;)  But I'm happy to sit with your decision.  :thumbsup

Thanks tiga - though I suppose it depends on the music and the taste ;D
Title: Re: Could Polak play Full Back
Post by: Loose Cannon on October 10, 2006, 10:46:02 PM
Here is my trade idea:

Richmond trades Tuck and pick 26 to Freo for Polak and pick 13. So we end up with Polak and picks 8 & 13. We then try to trade up with Brisbane to pick 3 for picks 8 &13. We would also try to move on Krak for a second rounder. So in this scenario we would end up with:
Polak + picks 3, 28ish, 42 etc. 
Title: Re: Could Polak play Full Back
Post by: mightytiges on October 10, 2006, 11:39:49 PM
Here is my trade idea:

Richmond trades Tuck and pick 26 to Freo for Polak and pick 13. So we end up with Polak and picks 8 & 13. We then try to trade up with Brisbane to pick 3 for picks 8 &13. We would also try to move on Krak for a second rounder. So in this scenario we would end up with:
Polak + picks 3, 28ish, 42 etc. 

Brissy might be willing to accept that if they are after Armitage as rumoured who will probably still be around at 8 but they have pick 4 not 3. We'd still miss out on Gumby and Hansen but we could get Thorp at 4. It would be tempting to just keep both 8 & 13 if we could pull that trade with Freo off.
 
Title: Tuck for Polak (The Age)
Post by: one-eyed on October 11, 2006, 01:06:21 AM
Jake Niall, Stephen Rielly and Michael Gleeson
The Age
October 11, 2006

The Dockers are considering the possibility of Richmond's Shane Tuck joining them as a part of a trade for the uncontracted Graham Polak. Tuck was one of a number of names raised by the Tigers, who say they need to lose a player — for money reasons — to get Polak. West Australian Mark Coughlan, however, was not one of the options.

http://www.realfooty.theage.com.au/realfooty/articles/2006/10/10/1160246131564.html
Title: Freo wants Cogs for Polak (Herald-Sun)
Post by: one-eyed on October 11, 2006, 01:42:40 AM
The Herald-Sun thinks the Polak deal is about to fall over....

Quote
11 October 2006   Herald-Sun
Scott Gullan

Another scenario that looks like falling over is Fremantle's Graham Polak to Richmond. The clubs are moving further and further away from a deal.

The Tigers won't give up their first-round pick (No. 8) and have dismissed the Dockers' request for West Australian-born midfielder Mark Coughlan.

"It is only an outside chance now," Richmond football director Greg Miller said.

Polak had also spoken to Carlton, but the Blues don't have anything that interests Fremantle.

It is believed St Kilda has flagged interest in Polak.

http://www.heraldsun.news.com.au/footy/common/story_page/0,8033,20560349%255E20322,00.html
Title: Re: Could Polak play Full Back
Post by: LondonTiger on October 11, 2006, 01:43:54 AM
Well I hope we get something in addition to Polak for Tuck if this is true.  I think he is worth more than a potential KPP.

Play hard ball.  1.30pm Friday....
Title: Re: Tuck for Polak (The Age)
Post by: letsgetiton! on October 11, 2006, 06:26:13 AM
Jake Niall, Stephen Rielly and Michael Gleeson
The Age
October 11, 2006

The Dockers are considering the possibility of Richmond's Shane Tuck joining them as a part of a trade for the uncontracted Graham Polak. Tuck was one of a number of names raised by the Tigers, who say they need to lose a player — for money reasons — to get Polak. West Australian Mark Coughlan, however, was not one of the options.

http://www.realfooty.theage.com.au/realfooty/articles/2006/10/10/1160246131564.html

tuck for polak is a win for us  imo
Title: Re: Could Polak play Full Back
Post by: letsgetiton! on October 11, 2006, 06:27:59 AM
Well I hope we get something in addition to Polak for Tuck if this is true.  I think he is worth more than a potential KPP.

Play hard ball.  1.30pm Friday....
tuck isnt that valuable, he may win a hard ball but his decision making isnt up 2 scratch. he is a player we wont miss if he moves on
Title: Re: Could Polak play Full Back
Post by: WilliamPowell on October 11, 2006, 08:39:26 AM
Well I hope we get something in addition to Polak for Tuck if this is true.  I think he is worth more than a potential KPP.

Play hard ball.  1.30pm Friday....

Have to agree LT

IF we are the only ones who are really interested then we should sit and wait until Friday.

If in the meantime someone comes up with a better deal (eg a first roud pick for him) then let him go - because he isn't worth it :thumbsup
Title: Polak - 300k for 3 years .... eek!
Post by: one-eyed on October 11, 2006, 10:05:14 AM
Greg Denham on SEN said Polak is after a 3-year deal on 300k  :gobdrop

He also reckons the trade will be done tomorrow for pick 8 -> pick 13 + Polak.
Title: Re: Could Polak play Full Back
Post by: one-eyed on October 11, 2006, 10:34:03 AM
Also forgot to say SEN this morning said Chocco Royal is off to Perth to see Polak.
Title: Re: Could Polak play Full Back
Post by: letsgetiton! on October 11, 2006, 10:42:18 AM
I would have thought Tuck & 26 for Polak and 13 was very acceptable indeed. Beyond that if we got it, Id keep 8 and 13 and take our chances that someone falls through to 8.

if this is a so called "super duper draft" the difference b/w 8th and 13th is nothing. i say go 4 it
Title: Re: Could Polak play Full Back
Post by: tiga on October 11, 2006, 02:29:58 PM
Interesting that the Dockers are mentioning Medurst's name in trade talks with other clubs. Maybe they're making space for Krak to join them as a FP in a deal for Polak.
Title: Re: Could Polak play Full Back
Post by: mightytiges on October 11, 2006, 06:58:26 PM
As long as Medhurst stays away from Tigerland.

Ch 9 news has mentioned Tuck for Polak as well.
Title: Re: Could Polak play Full Back
Post by: mightytiges on October 11, 2006, 10:30:58 PM
On dockerland, they said Ch 9 in Perth reported that we offered Cogs for Polak and Freo knocked it back. Yeah right!  ::)

http://www.dockerland.com/cgi-bin/teemz/teemz.cgi?board=_master&action=opentopic&topic=16354&forum=Docker_Discussions

The deluded souls there also seem to think they will get a straight swap for Tuck  :wallywink and most prefer Tuck to Tarrant. 

http://www.dockerland.com/cgi-bin/teemz/teemz.cgi?board=_master&action=opentopic&topic=16363&forum=Docker_Discussions
Title: Polak to Richmond deal stalls
Post by: one-eyed on October 12, 2006, 01:29:19 AM
Stephen Rielly and Jake Niall
October 12, 2006

Fremantle has its own issues should it need to satisfy the Magpies. Last night a deal to send Graham Polak to Richmond had also stalled and his manager, Paul Connors, also Tarrant's agent, was indicating to Fremantle that the 22-year-old was willing to run the gauntlet of the pre-season draft where Carlton and Essendon have the first two selections.

Richmond has offered an exchange of first-round picks with Fremantle for Polak — pick eight for pick 13 — but the Dockers are insisting on a second-round pick to be included. Shane Tuck, who had been linked to the Polak deal on Tuesday, was taken off the table yesterday.

http://www.realfooty.theage.com.au/realfooty/articles/2006/10/11/1160246197572.html
Title: Re: Polak requires a 3-year 300k a season deal
Post by: one-eyed on October 12, 2006, 01:37:31 AM
Greg Denham
The Australian
October 12, 2006

The Dockers continued their bid to gain Tarrant by dealing with Richmond to trade Graham Polak and improve their pecking order in the first round of the draft by swapping selections with the Tigers.

Polak, who will require a three-year commitment from the Tigers for up to $300,000 a season, may end up at Punt Road.

With a bidding war between the two West Australian clubs unlikely, Fremantle remains confident of snaring Tarrant despite the 26-year-old being contracted for another year.

But that view was yesterday not shared by the Pies. Swann said: "I'm not sure whether Taz will go there. As every day goes by, he's staying here. I don't know what will happen."

http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,20867,20564330-36035,00.html
Title: RFC has agreed to Pick 8 for 13 + Polak but Freo wants more (Herald-Sun)
Post by: one-eyed on October 12, 2006, 01:49:50 AM
Chris Tarrant deal held up
12 October 2006   Herald-Sun
Damian Barrett and Scott Gullan

RICHMOND'S No.8 pick in the national draft is looming as crucial to Chris Tarrant becoming a Docker.

The Tigers are prepared to give up pick eight in return for Fremantle's Graham Polak and No.13 draft selection.

The Dockers would then on-pass No.8 to Collingwood in return for Tarrant.

But the deal was held up last night after Fremantle and Richmond clashed over a shuffling of later draft picks, which is also part of the trade.

It is understood Collingwood would accept pick eight only for Tarrant, after initially seeking a player as well.

Richmond had internally approved the Polak deal on Tuesday. But the deal was rejected yesterday by the Dockers, who had concerns about aspects of the arrangement, including the shuffling of later draft picks.

http://www.heraldsun.news.com.au/footy/common/story_page/0,8033,20565938%255E19742,00.html
Title: Re: RFC has agreed to Pick 8 for 13 + Polak but Freo wants more (Herald-Sun)
Post by: mightytiges on October 12, 2006, 02:54:23 AM
The Tigers are prepared to give up pick eight in return for Fremantle's Graham Polak and No.13 draft selection.

Richmond had internally approved the Polak deal on Tuesday. But the deal was rejected yesterday by the Dockers, who had concerns about aspects of the arrangement, including the shuffling of later draft picks.

We're agreeing to this plus a 3-year 300k per year deal for a bloke who has done sweet FA in 5 years and can't get a game at Freo :help  :banghead :banghead. We've become Polak obsessed  :banghead  :stupid.

Freo must be laughing at us if what's reported is true. To borrow a phrase for a 5AA commentator lol - Freo can "go and get stuffed!" :yep. 

Walk away Richmond before it's too late and just try to trade a player for pick(s).
Title: Re: Could Polak play Full Back
Post by: LondonTiger on October 12, 2006, 03:34:00 AM
I have read that the deal may have looked like :

Richmond - Pick 8 and Pick 42 for Polak, Pick 13, and Pick 31.   (Freo were not happy with the swap of late picks)

This would give us picks 13, 26, 31, 58.  (one first, two seconds, one fourth)

Current picks are 8, 26, 42, 58. 

Hmmm, would we do this..... very tough call.  (Remember the Tigers said it took about 5 minutes to write down a full team from the potential draftees)  They might think they can net 3 of these with picks 13, 26 and 31.

Title: Re: Could Polak play Full Back
Post by: letsgetiton! on October 12, 2006, 07:35:48 AM
if freo think we would /should give up our first 2 draft picks for polak they are delusional!  polak would be handy but not at that price
Title: Re: Could Polak play Full Back
Post by: Fluffy Tiger on October 12, 2006, 07:49:08 AM
Any of the deals here seem to be over rating Polak IMHO.

Come on Miller. Find us something better than this. it is your Job.
Title: Re: Could Polak play Full Back
Post by: WilliamPowell on October 12, 2006, 01:03:04 PM
I have to say I am bit confused ;D :rollin

People have said that we have to do a big deal/trade this year for it be considered a successful week.

But when it looks like we might just do that big deal - people are saying no no no ;D

Personally, I haven't been keen on getting Polak at all and as far as I am concerned pick 8 shouldn't even be considered but if it happens it happens  :whistle what can you do?

And besides it will certainly give us something to talk about until the draft  :rollin

 :clapping :gotigers
Title: RFC accused of being mischievious - SEN
Post by: one-eyed on October 12, 2006, 03:18:09 PM
Reported on SEN just before 3pm was that Freo may now trade directly with the Pies for Tarrant and then deal with us separatelt for Polak. The word was that Richmond (that's us) was accused of playing funny buggers as we normally do lol.
Title: Re: Could Polak play Full Back
Post by: one-eyed on October 12, 2006, 03:30:49 PM
Paugh Gough is still reporting the pick 8 for pick 13 + Polak trade.....

12:30:33 PM Thu 12 October, 2006
Paul Gough
Sportal for afl.com.au

The Dockers are also trying to do a deal with Richmond over their versatile big man Graham Polak, which could also tie in with the deal for Tarrant.

Under the deal the Tigers would give their first round draft pick - selection eight - to Fremantle in return for the Dockers' own first round draft pick - selection 13 overall - with the Dockers then able to pass on pick eight to the Magpies for Tarrant while the Tigers would secure Polak.

However several other clubs are also interested in 22-year-old Polak, who is capable playing both as a key defender and as a key forward.

http://afl.com.au/default.asp?pg=news&spg=display&articleid=302865
Title: Re: RFC accused of being mischievious - SEN
Post by: letsgetiton! on October 12, 2006, 04:05:13 PM
Reported on SEN just before 3pm was that Freo may now trade directly with the Pies for Tarrant and then deal with us separatelt for Polak. The word was that Richmond (that's us) was accused of playing funny buggers as we normally do lol.
:rollin
Title: Re: RFC accused of being mischievious - SEN
Post by: WilliamPowell on October 12, 2006, 04:48:06 PM
Reported on SEN just before 3pm was that Freo may now trade directly with the Pies for Tarrant and then deal with us separatelt for Polak. The word was that Richmond (that's us) was accused of playing funny buggers as we normally do lol.

That's hysterical - I think it's called trying to get the best deal  :rollin :ROTFL

Something Freo who obviously think they are just a player away from flag don't seem to understand
Title: Re: Could Polak play Full Back
Post by: mightytiges on October 12, 2006, 04:49:00 PM
Thurs 4.00 and 4.30pm SEN updates

Still no news on whether there will be a 3-way deal involving Polak and Tarrant or just a direct trade b/w the Pies and Freo.

Word out of Freo is that more likely any deal involving Tarrant won't involve Polak.  
Title: Re: Could Polak play Full Back
Post by: mightytiges on October 12, 2006, 05:19:13 PM
I have read that the deal may have looked like :

Richmond - Pick 8 and Pick 42 for Polak, Pick 13, and Pick 31.   (Freo were not happy with the swap of late picks)

This would give us picks 13, 26, 31, 58.  (one first, two seconds, one fourth)

Current picks are 8, 26, 42, 58. 

Hmmm, would we do this..... very tough call.  (Remember the Tigers said it took about 5 minutes to write down a full team from the potential draftees)  They might think they can net 3 of these with picks 13, 26 and 31.

Cheers LT. That's better because we gain another second round pick but I still don't like the idea of giving up our pick 8. Then there's the problem of us needing to trade someone to free up $$$. All these media reports don't take that into account  ???.
Title: Re: Could Polak play Full Back
Post by: LondonTiger on October 12, 2006, 05:36:41 PM
This is de ja vu from two years ago.

Simmonds, wanting to come to Richmond, says he wants a five year deal worth X. Freo want high picks from the tigers.  Tigers are playing their cards close to their chests. 

Freo match that offer, Simmonds then says on Thursday night, my mind is made up, if you do not trade me to Richmond I will walk into the PSD.

Freo think, better get something whilst we can.  At 1.20pm a deal is struck player for player for player (Simmonds/Fiora/Black)

Two years later

Polak, wanting to come to Richmond, says he wants a 3 year deal worth X. Freo want high picks from the tigers.  Tigers are playing their cards close to their chests. 

Freo try and match that offer, but Polak then says on Thursday night, my mind is made up I want to leave, if you do not trade me to Richmond I will walk into the PSD.

Freo think, better get something whilst we can.  At 1.20pm a deal is struck player for player for player (Polak/?/?)

Love this time of year
Title: Re: Could Polak play Full Back
Post by: Bulluss on October 12, 2006, 05:51:48 PM
I reckon they should forget about Polak and trade Krak to North for Perry and a 4th round pick.
Title: Re: Could Polak play Full Back
Post by: LondonTiger on October 12, 2006, 06:16:38 PM
I reckon they should forget about Polak and trade Krak to North for Perry and a 4th round pick.

I still think that is on the cards, but we may want the trade to be something like Krak and pick 58 for Perry and pick 39.  (assuming we pick up part of his salary)

Title: Re: Could Polak play Full Back
Post by: Bulluss on October 12, 2006, 06:41:26 PM
It would be devistating to see Tuck traded.

10 less turn overs a game.  :lol
Title: Re: Could Polak play Full Back
Post by: mightytiges on October 12, 2006, 10:36:34 PM
Nathan Thompson on SEN tonight didnt rate either Thorton nor Polak. Polak was not quick enough off the mark for FB and Thorton was just a second tall who struggled against the bigger forwards.
Title: Re: Could Polak play Full Back
Post by: mightytiges on October 12, 2006, 10:53:31 PM
According to the Age tomorrow, Freo have offered Tarrant a 4-year deal  :o.

We're firming to get Polak. Freo know it's either Richmond or the PSD for Polak. We are saying we'll only swap first round picks  :-\. We will not be trading players.

The dogs will get Aker for just pick 34 and McDougall for swapped 2nd and 4th round picks yet we plan to swap 1st round picks for Polak ???  :scream.
Title: Re: Could Polak play Full Back
Post by: Rodgerramjet on October 12, 2006, 11:57:13 PM
I am buggered if i know why we are so obsessed with having to trade our pick 8. There is no way that Polak is worth pick 8, Tarrant isn't even worth Pick 8 and I reckon he has more currency than Polak.

Let's give them Pick 26, Krak or Tuck (not both) and they can give us Polak and pick 31.
Title: Freo swap picks for Polak or forget it - Miller (The Age)
Post by: one-eyed on October 13, 2006, 12:40:14 AM
Jake Niall, Stephen Rielly and Michael Gleeson
The Age
October 13, 2006

Richmond yesterday said that it would not trade any player for Polak and would only swap first-round picks (eight for 13). Richmond football director Greg Miller said the pick swap was the only deal it would offer and otherwise Polak would be headed to Carlton and/or Essendon via the pre-season draft.

Miller said it was "too late to trade a player" to Fremantle and the Tigers would not give up a second-round pick.

http://www.realfooty.theage.com.au/realfooty/articles/2006/10/12/1160246263958.html
Title: Freo moved the goalposts from original Polak agreement (The Australian)
Post by: one-eyed on October 13, 2006, 01:09:01 AM
Greg Denham
The Australian
October 13, 2006

The Dockers and Richmond had agreed in principle to swapping first-round choices which would result in Graham Polak becoming a Tiger.

Fremantle would have ended up with Richmond's first pick (No.8) and then on-traded that to the Magpies as part of the deal to secure Tarrant.

But last night Richmond football director Greg Miller stalled proceedings when the Dockers also demanded the Tigers' second-round pick.

"We were happy to go down the original path and swap for Fremantle's first selection (No.13) to get Polak, but now they want our second-round pick," Miller said.

"We think that selection, No.26, is very valuable and we're not prepared to do that."

http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,20867,20570670-36035,00.html
Title: Re: Could Polak play Full Back
Post by: DallasCrane on October 13, 2006, 01:20:38 AM
Against Miller on this one, 8th to 13th, we are just a better chance of getting a real quality kid in the top 8.
Even if it is a superdraft the cream is starting to come off the cake by then.
Title: Re: Could Polak play Full Back
Post by: one-eyed on October 13, 2006, 01:33:23 AM
By Sam Lienert
foxsports.com.au
October 12, 2006

The Dockers are willing to give up their first-round draft pick for Tarrant, but need to further sweeten the deal to satisfy the Magpies.

If Fremantle is able to work out a deal with Richmond for Polak which involves the two clubs swapping first-round picks, it could provide the breakthrough needed.

"(The Polak and Tarrant deals) are operating separately at the moment, but if something can be done with Graham and that happens to be Richmond we'll have a better first-round pick, that may well be what we need," Black said.

http://www.foxsports.com.au/story/0,8659,20570495-23211,00.html
Title: Re: Could Polak play Full Back
Post by: tiga on October 13, 2006, 10:24:58 AM
4 hours to the deadline and I'm getting the feeling that the RFC will do no trades at all, Polak will walk to Carlton for free and we'll still be stuck with Krak unless a Krak for Perry deal can be settled.  :banghead
Title: Re: Could Polak play Full Back
Post by: mightytiges on October 13, 2006, 10:39:34 AM
It's hard to do a trade when Freo are being greedy so and soes. Fringe players like Polak aren't even worth a straight 3rd round pick (#42). Sheesh the doggies with get Aker for pick #34. Polak isn't worth just 8 spots behind Aker. 

Title: Re: Could Polak play Full Back
Post by: Ramps on October 13, 2006, 10:45:37 AM
Your actually correct but as you said they are greedy pricks and for some reason we "seem" desperate for Polak.
Title: Re: Could Polak play Full Back
Post by: mightytiges on October 13, 2006, 10:56:43 AM
Your actually correct but as you said they are greedy pricks and for some reason we "seem" desperate for Polak.

And that seems to be the problem. Which club will crack first?!  :-\
Title: Polak deal almost done - SEN News
Post by: one-eyed on October 13, 2006, 12:17:23 PM
SEN News said the Polak deal is almost done  :o.