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Title: Coburg vs Bendigo - Sunday August 13
Post by: one-eyed on August 10, 2006, 09:45:27 PM
Coburg Tigers:

B: Jorgensen, Silvester, Kuret.
HB: Roach, King, McGuane.
C: Humm, Shelton, Moore.
HF: Hughes, Knobel, Carlson.
F: Randello, Limbach, Huy.
R: Ronaldson, Neville, Rodan.
Int: Mullins, Di Mascio, Young, Casserly, Caruso, Simpson, Rimington, Robertson.

Bendigo Bombers:

B: Doering, Pendlebury, Vigus.
HB: Reynolds, Solomon, Lucy.
C: Bowe, Rosa, Connaughton.
HF: Geary, Matthews, Bowles.
F: Young, Carter, S Richardson.
R: Cartledge, Firman, Scerri.
Int: D Biggs, T Biggs, Pike, Martyn, Childs, Blumfield, Rioli, Lonergan.
Title: Re: Coburg vs Bendigo - Sunday August 13
Post by: cub on August 13, 2006, 08:56:34 AM
bump

looking forward to the oer ever reliable updates while stuck at work  :thumbsup
Title: Re: Coburg vs Bendigo - Sunday August 13
Post by: one-eyed on August 13, 2006, 04:56:48 PM
I think you mozzed the site CUB lol

2006 TRUenergy VFL Seniors

Bendigo Bombers   7.5  11.7  18.10-118  .
Coburg Tigers       3.3    9.6   10.8-68  .

Not looking good at 3/4 time  :(
Title: Coburg lost by 20 points
Post by: one-eyed on August 13, 2006, 05:08:10 PM
Final Score:

Coburg Tigers        3.3  9.6    10.8   15.11 (101)
Bendigo Bombers   7.5  11.7  18.10  18.13 (121)



Title: Rodan kicked 5 for Coburg
Post by: one-eyed on August 13, 2006, 05:11:53 PM
BEST:
Bendigo Bombers: Rosa Carter Cartledge Solomon Doering Pendlebury
Coburg Tigers: Rodan Humm McGuane King Silvester Carlson

GOALS:
Bendigo Bombers: Carter 5 Lonergan 2 Firman 2 Geary 2 Bowe  Bowles  Richardson  Lucy  Biggs  Rioli  Reynolds
Coburg Tigers: Rodan 5 Knoble 2 Roach 2 McGuane 2 Limbach 2 Humm  Randello
Title: Re: Coburg vs Bendigo - Sunday August 13
Post by: letsgetiton! on August 13, 2006, 08:36:48 PM
rodans goals mean nothing, he is too far behind the pack, would rather foley, howat and white, over rodan anyday
Title: Re: Coburg vs Bendigo - Sunday August 13
Post by: letsgetiton! on August 13, 2006, 08:38:29 PM
rodans goals mean nothing, he is too far behind the pack, would rather foley, howat and white, over rodan anyday
Title: Re: Coburg vs Bendigo - Sunday August 13
Post by: WilliamPowell on August 14, 2006, 11:57:15 AM
Rodan was without doubt the best of the Richmond boys for the Burgers.

I also thought it was Tommy Roach's best game for a long time -attacked the ball really hard.

And Kel Moore went off in the 1st quarter with what looked like a hamstring injury  :help....... he lasted a little bit longer than .........

one D. Rioli who did his hammy too

 :thumbsup
Title: Re: Coburg vs Bendigo - Sunday August 13
Post by: letsgetiton! on August 14, 2006, 12:21:32 PM
i dont doubt 1 bit that rodan  was our best , but there is no way he should get a game infont of the other younger blokes playing 4 the same position.

same goes 4 roach

pity about moore, looks like his body just isnt made 4 footy
Title: Re: Coburg vs Bendigo - Sunday August 13
Post by: mightytiges on August 14, 2006, 05:40:50 PM
Rodan was without doubt the best of the Richmond boys for the Burgers.

I also thought it was Tommy Roach's best game for a long time -attacked the ball really hard.

And Kel Moore went off in the 1st quarter with what looked like a hamstring injury  :help

Shame about Moore. Like Paddy Steinfort, injury looks like killing off Kel's AFL career.

How did McGuane go in your opinion WP. Any probs with his knee?
Title: Re: Coburg vs Bendigo - Sunday August 13
Post by: PuntRdRoar on August 14, 2006, 07:01:11 PM
RFC needs to take a look at a club like South Melbourne in the soccer...reason is simple South never cared what the 2nds did, didnt give a poo if they won or lost or came no where, all they cared about was

1) was there any player in the 2s who could play
2) what was needed to fast track the player

Coburgs got all these players, listed RFC and non listed, but for mine the only thing that counts is can we fast track any kid to the seniors. Can we get Hughes to be a FF, can we get Casserley onto a HBF ...are there say 3 youngsters that we can concentrate on as a club and say...poo...lets work these boys, lets fast track them...that doesnt mean you dont care about the others, but coburg should be about RFC getting 3 young players every year who can get fast tracked and become good players at the AFL.
Title: Re: Coburg vs Bendigo - Sunday August 13
Post by: Bulluss on August 14, 2006, 09:35:02 PM
There isnt really anyone to get dropped anyway.

I think Browy may be back this week and Kellaway may also be a chance so one or two players may be unlucky to get dropped.
Title: Re: Coburg vs Bendigo - Sunday August 13
Post by: Fishfinger on August 14, 2006, 09:48:40 PM
Geez Ramps, I reckon we'd go backwards if we followed that setup.  ;D
Out of 6 developing players in 2005 who broke into the senior team, 5 are now Richmond regulars (I include Thursfield in the 5 who would be if not for his injury and Deledio who has not played for Coburg).
Out of 7 developing players in 2006 who broke into the senior team, 5 are now Richmond regulars (2 first year players are back at Coburg for development).

The Richmond and Coburg affiliation is meant to benefit both parties, not just Richmond. I'd prefer youngsters on the Richmond list to be nurtured and developed in an environment where how Coburg is going is cared about.



Title: Re: Coburg vs Bendigo - Sunday August 13
Post by: PuntRdRoar on August 14, 2006, 10:05:41 PM
my point is that Coburg should be about development first, second and third...its about getting some players in there and outta there fast tracked to play senior footy. I dont really agree with the focus our supporters put on the results. If Coburg wins a game and the best 12 players are coburg players- then thats a no result for us. Richmond should come 1st in all matters. But I accept your view and its ok to disagree with me...its just an opinion :cheers
Title: Re: Coburg vs Bendigo - Sunday August 13
Post by: mightytiges on August 14, 2006, 11:20:03 PM
Under Andy Collins I think we've been able to do both given the number of youngsters at Richmond that have debuted and blossomed as FF pointed out.  One of the reasons Collins got the gig was because his record with the development of kids. Nothing wrong with installing a winning mentality either and playing finals even at VFL level. If Coburg has a decent on-field structure which plays a similar style to Richmond then that'll also help with speeding up our youngsters progression. Remember Polo in his first year began in the Coburg ressies and was pushing for a Richmond spot by the end of the year. This year he has cemented it. Rainsey was similar with how he came on at Coburg and now would be in our top 5 for the year.
Title: Re: Coburg vs Bendigo - Sunday August 13
Post by: WilliamPowell on August 15, 2006, 01:06:24 PM
How did McGuane go in your opinion WP. Any probs with his knee?

McGuane's knee was a none issue. Didn't even have it taped.

He played in the forward line - he seems more suited there than down back. Out of the 3 Richmond boys (Limbach, Hughes, McGuane) rotating between FF & CHF - McGuane was the best by a long way.

If Coburg wins a game and the best 12 players are coburg players- then thats a no result for us.

I have to disagree Ramps - If Coburg win a game and the best 12 players are Coburg then I reckon it may actually show that some of our younger blokes haven't got the right mindset. They shouldn't think just because they are AFL players they are automatically going to star and get an easy ride. They have to work bloody hard whether it be at Richmond or Coburg.

They should look at the likes of Polo and Raines who both started in the Coburg Ressies, prgressed to Coburg seniors and are now regular AFL players. Dean Polo has actually said he benefitted greatly from his time at Coburg because when he first came down he wasn't realy for AFL.

Under Andy Collins I think we've been able to do both given the number of youngsters at Richmond that have debuted and blossomed as FF pointed out. One of the reasons Collins got the gig was because his record with the development of kids. Nothing wrong with installing a winning mentality either and playing finals even at VFL level. If Coburg has a decent on-field structure which plays a similar style to Richmond then that'll also help with speeding up our youngsters progression. Remember Polo in his first year began in the Coburg ressies and was pushing for a Richmond spot by the end of the year. This year he has cemented it. Rainsey was similar with how he came on at Coburg and now would be in our top 5 for the year.

Exactly
Title: Re: Coburg vs Bendigo - Sunday August 13
Post by: PuntRdRoar on August 15, 2006, 01:49:05 PM
You guys need 100% RFC focus...like that Geelong supporter yesterday on sen, they asked him what were the most important things in his life he proceeded to outline the following

1st- my kids
2nd- my kids
3rd- my kids
4th- geelong: the poor bastard
5th- he goes my misses "pmsl"

If hes wife heard him, hes not gonna get laid for months the poor basta.rd

now thats the type of spirit we are looking for at Punt Rd.  ;D
Title: Re: Coburg vs Bendigo - Sunday August 13
Post by: mightytiges on August 15, 2006, 06:08:47 PM
Geelong wouldn't be a good club to follow if success was your main aim Ramps. Just ask Otto :rollin.

I would say Coburg is far more Richmond focussed than other AFL clubs' VFL affiliates  ;).
Title: Re: Coburg vs Bendigo - Sunday August 13
Post by: WilliamPowell on August 16, 2006, 10:19:36 AM
Geelong wouldn't be a good club to follow if success was your main aim Ramps. Just ask Otto :rollin.


 :ROTFL :ROTFL I wonder if Otto wants to come "home" - too bad if he does he's not welcome  ;D

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I would say Coburg is far more Richmond focussed than other AFL clubs' VFL affiliates  ;).

 ;)

They say the best alignment in the VFL is Sandy/Melbourne - they have the balance spot on. Back to back premierships attest to that but the Melbounre list is alot older so I the focus is not so much about development.

I reckon the Coburg/Richmond one is working very well and more importantly improving all the time. Coburg's list is like Richmond's very young (either the youngest or 2nd youngest in the VFL) so their focus is on development as well - a win/win